John Madden Football - A 16-Bit Sega Legacy
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- At a time when realism wasn't expected in video game sports titles, Madden redefined those expectations. I played it first on the Genesis.
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Opening "Sega" jingle is from Astal for the Sega Saturn.
Ending Music during the credits is from Batman for the Sega Genesis.
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Episode Notes:
1. Captured on the Mega SG.
2. While Madden 94 was the first game in the series to have the NFL license, it did not have the licensed players. That wouldn't happen until the following year with Madden 95.
3. Madden 97 and 98 are incredibly similar. They share loads of graphical assets and the same music. Only the front end and a few Super Bowl options separate the two.
4. Surprisingly, Madden on the Genesis never exceeded 16 megs. I often wonder what it could have looked like had it gone to 32.
5. While the Madden series showed up on the SNES as well, I never felt it played as nice as the Genesis versions. The crowd and voices sounded better on the SNES, but I preferred the music in the Genesis games as well.
6. There are videos of the canceled 32-bit Madden 96 on the internet. It's easy to see why it was axed.
7. Of all the Madden's here, I still prefer the original.
8. While Madden NFL 94 still plays great, I actually disliked the new graphics and animation. It looked silly to me.
9. There were 2 Madden's on the Saturn. 97 and 98. Both were awesome.
10. One thing I always appreciated about the Madden games was the ability to simulate a game. Every single year I simulate the playoffs and Super Bowl to see who wins. That's be especially poignant this year.
What a fitting tribute to a video game Icon, Madden clearly revolutionized sports games, the same Madden Engine was adapted for the Fifa International Soccer franchise as well, which was obviously more popular in Europe. He did a great service for sports video games on top of all his other many achievements, the man shall always be a legend, may he RIP.
Yup. Many great series were born from Madden’s success.
It was also used to make the very awesome MUTANT LEAGUE FOOTBALL 🥳🥳
Video Game icon? He's just a Football icon all together. Also I hate you mentioning the 9ners beating my Cowboys. Lol
@@mindphaserxy Hells yes!
Not sure if Fifa uses the same engine. The way screens scroll are completely different, as well as animations.
The first two Madden games on the Genesis are all I need. Love the music in the first game and would really enjoy hearing a well done arrangement of those tunes with real 'lectric geetars. That ambulance in the 2nd game was just hilarious, causing more more damage than the injured player had sustained... well not really but I just loved the absurdity of it all. I think the first few games have my favorite field graphics as well. Some of the later games had more detailed grass but the perspective seemed off. I would play so much of this and Lakers vs Celtics when they both came out. EA seemed like a brand new titan on the console and they really elevated the Genesis.
Hut....Hut Hut Hut.....Hut Hut Hut Hut. Hut....Hut Hut Hut.....Hut Hut Hut Hut. The original Madden and NHL Hockey music are some of my favourites on the system. I'll play those versions just to hear them.
I have often wished that the retro community would update the original Madden with real NFL teams. Everything else about it is spot on.
This. Along with Lakers Vs. Celtics and NHL I was in heaven.
Very much so, you'd grab the latest EA game pretty much knowing you were gonna get something different. Something you'd not experienced on a console before. As they were more the type of titles you'd get on a PC or Amiga.
It didn't always work.
Dark Castle and Budokan being a couple of games I ended up trading quite quickly.
@@SegaLordX That would be really cool to see. It never even crossed my mind to do that.
This game actually made American Football popular here in the UK again. I'm pretty sure of that. I remember the first game coming out. I got it on release here and it was from this game me and my friends worked out the rules of the game.
It was a huge hit here in the UK. Because it was a good game. Wasn't about the sport, or the licences or anything else other than the fact it played wonderfully.
We all fell in love with it. I have so many great memories of sitting in my best friends bedroom, playing 2 player games for hours.
Other retro channel creators would never play sports games - let alone ever make a video like this. Thank you Sega Lord X.
Not even a football fan and only own a single football video game, Madden NFL '94 on Sega Genesis, but I click on this video just because I like this channel.
@@PaperBanjo64 That's really the one to own, IMO.
@@kjuergens1985 well that's good to know, I got it in a bundle with a Sega Genesis
@@PaperBanjo64 Nice. I think it's at the sweet spot of having football depth and realism but also the colorful, chunky, chaotic fun playability of early Madden games. College Football USA 96 and 97 are better "simulations" of football, but a bit of the fun factor is lost, and so if you are not that into football to begin with, Madden 94 is probably perfect.
I work in a major market doing Morning Show radio for a living. I mean it when I say, 90% of the people that I work with could learn a lesson from you on how to tell a story, how to explain to people unfamiliar with the property its history, and how to make it interesting the entire time. You are truly incredible at what you do.
I am definitely not a sports fan or someone who plays sports games, and I admit, when I was younger, I was one of those gamers who thumbed their noses at these games, but as I've grown up and learned to expand to accept more viewpoints, I realize this series is as important to many people as games like Megaman and Final Fantasy are to me, and regardless of what this game series is now, I still have to respect these classic games and their legacy for gaming as a whole.
Rest in Peace, John Madden. Your name to millions is now synonymous with the sport you loved.
Thank you for the tribute to one of the greatest coach's of all time and our childhoods R.I.P John Madden and as Al Davis would say win baby win
Oh that Megadrive/Genesis intro. Seared into my brain nearly 30 years later. Glorious.
It still makes the hairs on the my neck stand up.
Absolutely freaking legendary….
one r.i.p to John Madden thank you for being a awesome guy and father we will all miss you.
Well said.
5:57 The refs missed a blatant penalty call. The receiver went out of bounds then came back in and was the first player to touch the ball.
That they did. I was actually shocked when they called the TD.
No replay back then baby!
I noticed that too! hahaha
Anyway, I'm sure the reasoning behind it is that it's a 16-bit game and had limited data programmed into it. If I recall, the only "penalty" that was programmed into the first couple of Madden games was defensive offsides or encroachment. I don't remember any other penalties being in the game besides Defensive Offside.
This comment just shows me how much I lack in football knowledge. Love the sport, but it's not what I grew up with as a Latino, so stuff like this goes completely over my head.
John Taylor knew better.
Madden '92 was my first football game and a huge part of why I love football. Great idea for a tribute SLX. RIP John, your games gave us all so many great memories.
the 92 and 93 94 ones were much better by then than the og here
@@MyKeeP81 I Have Madden 94 For My Mini Sega and Running is Better For Me Then Passing!
Great tribute to John Madden. Love hearing about your history with certain franchises and the passion you have for them.
RIP to the great John Madden for letting us enjoy the NFL as much as he did.
It's such a shame that today's modern Madden games are such an insult to John Madden, being more about nickle and diming it's loyal playerbase, rather than offering the fun of being the best football simulation on the gaming market...
The same can be said for almost all other sports games after around 2005. They just seem to have the IT factor lost along the way. With the limitations of the 16 bit machines hardware, 90-98 console sports games have never been rivaled on the Genesis & Super Nintendo.
Don't blame it on John Madden blame it on the NFL licensing
John Madden us rolling in his grave because of the insult that is the EA Sports Madden series
Haha… “nickel” and “dime”… I see what you did there! Bravo!
To be honest wouldn't his family also be blamed for milking his name on a game franchise that is destroyed in reviews every year whi would want their name against that
What a classic 16-bit series. It sold a lot of Genesis consoles here in Pittsburgh. LOL at SF running a goal line TD against the Steelers. ;)
One of the greatest coaches in sports history. I'm glad you covered this game being that Madden '93 was our first sports game. RIP Coach. 😔
Thanks for watching.
Nice tribute to Madden!!! The series was outstanding on the Genesis and the PS2!
You were doing great till you mentioned the DitherStation 2
I have the PS2's Collector's Edition of Madden 2005 AND Hall of Fame Edition of Madden 07!
@@adultmoshifan87 Great games. I also like in the Madden 05 Collector’s Edition that you can play a playable version of Madden 93 and two of the PS1 Madden games, IIRC. I grew up on SNES (which had some solid Madden games from 94-98, IMO), but the Genesis ones are much better
@@adultmoshifan87 , I honestly do not know which is the better American football game, Madden 2005, ESPN NFL 2K5, or NCAA Football 06.
@@paxhumana2015 madden 04 and 05 were good 06 was ok but 07 was good two but king of football games espn 2k5 just my Opinion though.
Man thanks for putting this video together. It brought back a lot of memories. My uncle and I used to play this game and Lakers vs Celtics for hours. The graphics at that time were incredible considering the best football games prior to this was Tecmo and Super Tecmo Bowl on NES. Heck , people complain about Madden now but they don't have a clue about what some of us had to go through when it comes to gaming. I'm old enough to remember playing 10 Yard Fight on NES and I promise you that was rough
Nice video mate. John Madden will be missed. I still play Madden '93 on the Mega Drive to this day, an amazing game.
I loved Madden 92 and 93. 💕
I used to play those games almost everyday. Well into 1998.
I am sad Madden passed. But it was expected.😢
I loved his commentary. He knew football inside and out.
He made watching games much more interesting.
I remember when the 49ers were starting to decline. He was able to pinpoint all of the weakness's of the team. He said it would be years before they would recover.
Madden '96 was my favorite. I played that one so much, and I loved how at the team select screen (before I was able to search the internet for cheats and stuff) you press a sequential number of buttons and you get secret teams eg. Bengals '81, Cowboys '77.
I think Madden 96 was the most visually pleasing of the later releases.
@@SegaLordX As a guy who has every Madden on the Genesis minus the championship 93 edition, I concur. I also loved the FOX NFL touch to ‘96 adding just that little more.
Was it 95 or 96 that had the combine when you created a player?? You had to do the 40 to determine the speed, QB drills if it was a QB etc. That was all calculated into the final rating. I made a Vick like QB before there was Michael Vick lol
@@dl30wpb 96
I really liked this video. I enjoyed a lot of sports games on the Genesis and I appreciate you showing some love to them.
They were a big part of my gaming days with the Genesis. I had to show some love.
@@SegaLordX I loved the World Series Baseball games and I even enjoyed Deion Sanders PrimeTime NFL. I couldn’t believe you were able to talk trash before the snap. It was SO Deion lol
We'll remember that number... Rip Madden. You rock SLX
Thanks for watching.
The first few Maddens were huge in the UK too. Everyone knew about them and you saw copies everywhere. The magazines hyped them up as being some of the best games on the Mega Drive (check out Mean Machines, Issues 3 and 15). It's impressive how much of an impact Madden made to a nation that didn't even know the rules of the sport. A lot of us learned the rules just because of that game (I've heard RMC mention this too).
Great vid, but was waiting for the snow!
Yeah, the first Madden was my introduction to the sport. It landed about the same time the first NFL games were being broadcast on UK television (Channel 4, very late at night!).
The instruction manual for John Madden basically helped me understand what I was watching on TV.
Brings back the golden era for Sega!! I will never forget seeing Madden football for the first time! Me and Brother in law both had the Genesis. One day while over at his house and hanging with him and my nephews, we fired up Madden. He said" you gotta see this! " he described an ambulance that comes out on the field. So we played it a bit, I of course sucked at aports games. Lol wasn't long before a player got hurt then we heard the wrrrrrrrrrrr! And the ambulance plowing everyone over to get to the injured player!! We laughed our asses off! He being more of a sports player really liked Madden. This was an exciting time! So many new games and experiences!
Yeah the ambulance on the field was awesome, and this was back when NHL used to have the blood come out of the player's heads. And you could engage in all the late hits you wanted
It just made me shed a tear in my eyes, well Madden what a great coach and commentator and also great video games.
Just like what Chuck Taylor did for Converse!
I am glad you did a video about Madden.
It is awesome!
God rest his soul.
It's a shame what EA has turned the once great Madden franchise into. Madden truly elevated football and video game football will never be the same because of him.
It's truly insulting to have a series as once exalted and highly regarded fall so bad.
RIP John Madden.
RIP John Madden
I’m 44 years old and to this day there is no sweeter sound to my ears than the touchdown music of the original.
The best part of these games when first released was how it expanded my video gaming friend group. A whole new set of friends were excited to play games for hours, people that weren't interested at all in the NES, C64 or games in general just a couple years before. That was cool.
Yup. I made multiple new friends from these games in school. People I’d never have talked to otherwise.
From a fellow 49ers fan ‘Let’s Go’. Been playing Madden since ‘92. Always play Franchise mode and try to win it all. Thanks Lord X
Big game this week. Cowboys are gonna be tough to beat at home.
RIP John Madden he was really Big influence of Madden Games back great 90s
RIP John Madden. He taught so many of us the game and did so around our families as he almost felt like an extended member. During my childhood and angst teenage years, my dad, grandfather and me would all watch football and when Madden was doing commentary - especially around thanksgiving - we all really not just enjoyed it but respected his input. He was part of the family tradition.
Switching gears here, any interest in covering the EA NHL series? I played the ever loving hell out of those. No other hockey game compared. It brought and taught hockey to so many that would’ve never had much exposure to the sport. I know because in SE Texas, hockey pretty much doesn’t exist - but it damn sure did for me and my friends on the Genesis. It was also the only game I had lots of time with the four player tap.
This is another fantastic review that really takes me back, SLX. Thank you! I really appreciate your channel and only wish I’d found it sooner.
Back when EA actually cared about the product they put out. Good times
Joe Montana sports talk football was amazing, even though there were some seriously broken plays lol. Not sure if you’ve covered it yet
I really didn’t appreciate the Montana games until 93. That’s when Sega hit their first home run with the series.
Long live the Sports Talk series
@@SegaLordX home run? Don’t you mean touchdown?
NFL Football '94 is what I played from 94 until 2000 which was when I got a PlayStation and completely stopped playing Football games until last year. I still play 94 every once in a while, it's so much fun... I do play Madden 21 now more regularly on the PS4, really enjoy that one.
It was pretty groundbreaking for the time, the instant replay and camera angles were amazing for the time. But I could only score if I played with Buffalo and ran tosses to Thurman Thomas or across to my tight end.
RIP John Madden. Football and the world misses you. This was a nice change. I personally only started picking up Madden games within the last year. I picked up Madden 13 for the Wii U for the Game Pad features. I picked up Madden 97 and 98 for the Sega Saturn for some fun football games for the system, and most recently I picked up Madden for the 3DO. I have been collecting the more obscure and lower print run versions of Madden. I would love to find a copy of that Championship version but the main game I am trying to find now is John Madden Duo Cd Football. Knowing I could play Madden on the Turbo Duo just fascinates me. Hoping I can find a copy some day.
It plays quite different on the Turbo, too. Worth looking into for sure.
Awesome video man! It was nice to see the changes that happened with each game. RiP John Madden.
I didn't even know Madden died until this video! Madden, Betty White and then Bob Saget. Deaths really do come in threes. RIP Madden, White and Saget.
This was so much fun to watch and brought back some amazing memories. Thank you and RIP, Coach Madden. 🙏
I was never a big Madden fan as I preferred the NFL 2K line but I admire Madden for making football games the way they are today. RIP John Madden rest high big man
I felt like 97 was really good. It looked more like the originals but had all the extras. But there was no doubt it was ready to be on newer consoles
Great work, Sega Lord X 😀
Thanks, bud. Appreciate the comment.
Thank you for covering classic sports game. I feel like they dont get enough love. Sure they were primitive but paved the way for modern games.
My favorite classic sports games:
Head on Soccer - NES
Super High Impact - Sega Genesis
Joe Montana Football - Sega Genesis
Tecmo Super Bowl - NES
NBA Jam - SNES
EA needs to honor this guy the right way and put Madden's picture back on the covers of the games.
I imagine next year will be a return to form.
@@SegaLordX oh yeah!
Thats not an honor with the condition of the game the last decade. Take John's name off. They can use Urban Meyer.
@@bonesjackson81
Yeah I didn't want to be the one that said it but the series has taken a real hit as of late especially. What EA has turned the once great Madden series into is absolutely appalling. Especially now what a slap to the face and an insult to the man's name.
Why would you wanna see a legend's picture on a game that has been fucking garbage since 2006? And it keeps getting worse.
Madden '93 was a big part of my Genesis experience as a kid. I don't think I played past '95. Hell, I think the last football game I played was NFL 2k on Dreamcast when it was new(great game as well).
R. I. P., John Madden. You’re now a legend. I have about 20 video games that are named after you. I have Madden NFL 2001 through Madden NFL 2021. I will eventually get Madden NFL 2022 and beyond. You were such a memorable person. And even though it’s sad😔to see you go, but at least you’re now reunited with your original sports commentator partner, Pat Summerall.
I haven't played a Madden NFL game since the Genesis days. I remember how awesome they were considering I'm from the UK and we aren't that much into NFL. I have never played anything since Genesis and what I've seen of the games now between PS3 and PS4, they went the FIFA way and just same old, same old. Instead of taking advantage of the current hardware and trying to make massive improvements in gameplay and other things they just profit, profit, profit.
RIP to the legend that is John Madden
I even have the gold championship Sega Genesis version too. Just plain fun. I only have the cartridge. But it’s an original. It wasn’t super expensive when I got it. $40. Games back in 93 were that much or more 👍
Great video! Love your content!
Thank you. Much appreciated.
Madden 94 is the game that got me into videogame football as an kid me my bro and cousins would hold tournaments to see who was better this all being played on an 15in tv. Still have the very same cart we played with back in the day. The memories are lasting. RIP Madden
Madden will be missed the voice of decades of big games and made it entertaining.
We were able to preorder and purchase Madden 93 Championship Edition at our local BRE Software store. All my buddies and I picked it up and it became our go to tournament game. To this day, it is still my favorite football game. Just so fun to play. I didn’t realize it was limited and is a rare game these days. I guess I got lucky.
As a Brit who had zero knowledge of American Football, JMF on the Mega Drive was my introduction to it. Had no clue what I was doing lol But I gradually learned the basic concepts and got pretty good at the game. Seeing as I do not like Soccer, it was nice to have a sports game I could actually get into. Loved Joe Montana Sports Talk and the NHL games as well!
R.I.P. madden you mean so much to me as a fan/gamer. We truly miss you daily.
Great video and tribute. I loved listening to Pat Summerall and John Madden on Sunday during a game. No one can even come close to them. R.I.P. to them both. Remember, you are not promised tomorrow, so tell the people you love today ✌🏼
15:05, yeah Madden 98 was so quick and updated that they kept the Madden 97 backgrounds on the play screens. When I used to run a former YT Channel, The Lancaster City Dragonrats I covered this in 2007 on CZcams. When I saw that for the first time when I got this game in October 1997 it made me want to puke and realized I got ripped off, traded it in and got Madden 98 for the PS1 and a huge change happened to my gaming life.
Thank you for this upload. I wanted to see a history of the Madden series after he passed but NO ONE had done a decent one.
2 words....
Amazing
Addicting
Remember when sports games were so good you didn't need to be a fan to love them.
Disappointed there was no section on the ambulance driving on the field to pick up one injured player, running over the entire field of other players in the process. One of the funniest things in gaming history.
'Gratz, SLX. You made me watch and like a video about Madden.
Appreciate you being here.
I have 93 on PAL Mega Drive, I remember when I got it. I got it from a old school friend who's step father owned a computer shop in town, my friend sold it to me for a reduced price brand new and it was only just released that week back in 1992. I left school in 1993. I be 45 this year... I'm a life long SEGA fan.
Damn I love this video especially the end r.i.p madden
I think you scored a perfect touchdown with this one.
and I think that Madden himself...would be very grateful.
So glad I grew up playing sega genesis nhl and madden games from there beginning. Blessed.
Something I loved, was years ago on my NES playing 2 player ice hockey against my brother on Blades of Steele, making our own tournaments.
Then playing Madden on the Mega Drive.
I know today the new consoles are amazing.
I am lucky enough to own both next gen consoles and there are some great games.
But back in the day, the games seemed made with REAL love, REAL passion and because the developers wanted to release a great FINISHED game.
These days, they seem rushed, unfinished and only made in a way that they can get more money out of the gamer once they own the game.
Great times and great memories
Being from West Africa American football had zero popularity but even I knew about John Madden football game even if I did not understand it at all. I use to see it in tge few game magazines I could lay my hands on. Had no idea he was such a ledgend in America. May his soul rest in perfect peace Amen.
John madden 1992 Is a legendary game.and my favorite in the John madden 🏈 football.make me miss the 1990s.word up son
My brother, being obsessed with football, is also obsessed with the Madden series. I'll be honest, given my particular interest in video games, I never really got hooked on the Madden games like my brother did. Although, I will say that the Genesis games look more fun to play than the current ones in my opinion. That being said, the legacy of John Madden cannot be denied, and I'll always have massive respect for the man.
Rest in Peace, John Madden.
The best part of this video is you play with the Niners in every game.
Dude your videos are just in a league all their own. Amazing!
Rip John Madden..... Thank you segalordx
Man I thought for the longest time the ambulance was from High Impact Football. Thanks for refreshing my memory!
Man I miss these old Sega 16- Bit games - they will always be Classic.
"BOOM! Sega Lord X just flattened that guy. He's doing the lunch pail work that allows his team to dominate CZcams."
*John Madden telestrating Sega Lords vicious block to spring his running back for a long gain.
RIP Legend
Got my hands on this game when it came out me my family and friend would play until the late hours of night and still when to work the day
"BOOM!!!" R.I.P John Madden :(
When I told my dad I wanted a Genesis... it wasn't for Sonic. It wasn't for Shinobi. It was for Madden (93).
That Madden intro is a step back into my childhood memory
Damn. I never seen it this way. I was never a huge Madden fan, but every few years I’d play one and they were a part of my childhood.
Nice and great timing! Watching this while playing Madden 08 on my PS2. Loved the Madden games during this era.
Really love this vid about the Madden series, 92 and 97 hold's a special place in my heart because 92 was the first Madden i've ever played and 97 was the first Madden i've ever owned.
The first madden on genesis has me playing madden ever since. I loved how they would show you the end of other games lol
Tecmo Superbowl is still the best game from that era. It was the first console game to have injuries, substitutions and a full season with playoffs and a Superbowl. The thing I liked about Madden is they just improved upon some of those things. I used to love the ambulance that would come on the field and run over everyone lol. I also remember if you did a sweep play and got behind the defense all you had to do was spam the high step button and they couldn't stop you.
I did't know that Madden himself was involved in the development of the games.
EA can have a lot of bad things but one of it's best points is that they keep releasing their sport titles for consoles for some years after their first party companies stopped making games them. Yes, it is often just the same game with an updated rooster but for those fans who love the genre is enough.
You just did my favorite... episode. Total respect Sir.
This game blew me and my brother away when we first fired it up! RIP to the goat of NFL broadcasting.
I “thumbs up” this video before it even started playing for 5 seconds. I already know the content will be awesome. Go 9ers!!
Can't remember if it was the original or the second game, back in 1991, but watching Madden in action was impressive to say the least. I remember the huge let down it was when it was ported to the SNES. Same went for NHL 93.
@Dean Satan hahaha, it's only because it was improperly ported and not optimized for the SNES. 😘
I remember playing this with friends as a kid 28 years ago.
We sooooooo looked forward to Madden coming out every year!! reading about it in magazines just to see what changes and additions they made we couldn't wait to play it.
Aw man, I remember having John Madden '93 Championship Edition for our SNES. My Dad bought it and loved playing it, but it was too hard for me as an 8 year old kid haha, probably because I didn't understand football that well. I really got into Madden when Madden '98 or '99 hit the Sega Saturn. Used to rent it a lot. Then when I finally got my PS2, Madden NFL 2003 had me hooked, and I bought nearly every entry until Madden 25 for the PS3. I haven't played a single one since sadly. RIP to you Coach Madden. 🏈🕊️
May John Madden rest in peace.
While I couldn't stand listening to John commentate on an actual live NFL broadcast, these Genesis games were a big reason I wanted the system. Started with Madden 93, which blew me away at the time. It didn't matter what phase of the game it was; offense, defense, or special teams, it was always fun. It was even more exciting the following year when a full season was implemented. Spent a lot of hours of my young adult life playing these.
Madden 96 was my favorite of the 16 bit era.
Me and my brother had a blast playing Tecmo Bowl then Sega, Madden and NHL 94 literally for hours and hours
Being a European living in Japan, I don't even know the rules of this sport, so needless to say I never played that game. Looking forward to next video. 👍
John Madden, Madden 92, Madden 93, NHL 94, NHL 95, NHL 96, NBA Live 95, NBA Live 96, Triple Play 96, FIFA 94, NBA Jam......... These are my favorite sports games of all time. There is something about that 93-96 era of sports games that stand the test of time.
R.I.P. John Madden.