1025R vs B2601: JOHN DEERE VS KUBOTA: THE FACTS 👨🌾🚜👩🌾
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- John Deere 1025r vs Kubota b2601 Tractor Comparison. Subcompact vs Compact Tractor Comparison. Watch THE OPINION VIDEO HERE • JOHN DEERE VS KUBOTA: ...
**Data displayed below shows 1025r first, b2601 next**
CATEGORY: SUBCOMPACT VS COMPACT
WEIGHT: 1444 LBS vs 1632 LBS (TRACTOR ONLY, NO ATTACHMENTS)
ENGINE: 23.8 HP/77.2 CI VS 24.3HP/68.5 CI
TRANSMISSION: 2 RANGE HYDRO VS 3 RANGE HYDRO
WHEELBASE: 57.1" VS 61.4"
WIDTH: 47.3" VS 49"
ROPS HEIGHT: 86.2" VS 85"
GROUND CLEARANCE 7.7" vs 12.8"
REAR TIRES: 26X12-12 VS 12-16.5
FRONT TIRES: 18-8.5 VS 23X8.5-12
LOADER MAX HEIGHT (PER MANUFACTURER): 71.2" 836 LBS VS 78.5" 948 LBS
LOADER MAX LIFT (PER MANUFACTURER): 836 LBS VS 948 LBS
LOADER MAX WEIGHT LIFTED TO FULL HEIGHT (REAL WORLD TEST): 462 LBS VS 546 LBS
LOADER MAX HEIGHT 714 LBS LIFTED (REAL WORLD TEST): 37" vs 59" (1025r did have tooth bar)
JD LOADER FEATURES: JDQA BUCKET STANDARD, QUICK PARK, OPTIONAL SINGLE POINT HYDRAULIC QUICK DISCONNECT, OPTIONAL MECHANICAL SELF LEVELING
KUBOTA LOADER FEATURES: PINNED BUCKET STANDARD, SSQA UPGRADE, QUICK PARK, OPTIONAL SINGLE POINT HYDRAULIC DISCONNECT, OPTIONAL MECHANICAL SELF LEVELING
3 POINT LIFT HEIGHT: 23.5" vs 25.5"
3 POINT MAX LIFT (MANUFACTURER SPEC): 681 LVS VS 1,411 LBS
3 POINT MAX LIFT TO FULL HEIGHT (REAL WORLD TEST): 851 LBS VS 1,589 LBS & COUNTING
BELLY MOWERS: 54"/60" AVAILABLE ON EACH
BACKHOES (2' FLAT BOTTOM DIGGING DEPTH): 74" vs 85"
BACKHOE SEAT: SEPARATE BACKHOE SEAT VS SWIVEL SEAT
CABS: AFTERMARKET ONLY AVAILABLE ON BOTH (HEAT ONLY, NO A/C)
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Thank you so much for doing this!! I’ve been waiting for these comparisons no one‘s done one
The perfect Saturday morning program for cereal and peanut butter toast and jam! :)
🤣 well I'm suddenly feeling hungry!
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definitely a lot of work put into this video! I appreciate you doing so. Currently have a 1026r and had looked at a few orange similar to what you showed here. Thanks again!
I got tuckered out watching you move all them weights. I had to go out and make myself a root beer float. Seemed like a fair comparison.
Your videos are beyond great. The side by side comparisons are especially helpful. Helped me buy the B2601, with its clear , quantifiable advantages. (Sorry, JD lovers--please don't flame me!) I'm extremely happy. Another less quantifiable but still critical component of any tractor, IMHO, is the guy/dealer you buy it from. I'm very lucky to have a person, and dealership, as helpful and knowledgeable as you and yours. I shopped around a lot before buying and found a dealer with as many advantages as the tractor itself. Thanks again for your dynamite videosl
Just the facts mam. As a satisfied 1025R owner, I was impressed with the B2601 capabilities you showed as it blew away the 1025R in several areas of comparisons. Overall, the B2601 appears to be a very good machine with decent creature comforts. Makes for a much different purchase decision than it was back in 2015. Looking forward to your opinion video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks as always Joseph!
Outstanding informative video! I really appreciate your attention to detail on all of your videos. You give the viewer access to these tractors without feeling the sales pressure at a typical dealership. Keep 'em coming!
Glad to hear it, thanks so much!
Enjoyed seeing the rear hitch lifting loads. I know the B2601 is larger but enjoyed seeing how much more weight it can lift.
Great job, Courtney! No wonder you’re in such good shape. Lugging those weights! Phew!!
I’m anxious to see part 2. I own a B2601 and really like it. I’m also very impressed with the Deere 1025 as well but I think it probably fits between the Kubota BX and the standard B. I’d guess the Deere 2 series is probably a better match to the B2650, which is a larger tractor than the B2601.
Regardless, I’m looking forward to hear your thoughts.
I dont have a use for a tractor but I love these videos. So informative and have learned quite a bit from your videos. Keep up the content.
Great information Courtney! The 3 point lift on that Kubota is unreal, I guess everything else associated with it is beefed up to handle that much weight....? No wonder you're in such good shape, you wore me out moving all those weights. I had to sit down & rest!!! LoL
dang! no need to go to the gym after today's video!! That was impressive sir!! Great comparison!! Looking forward to the opinion video!!
Thanks so much for this comparison! I am a new subscriber so haven't asked for it like others, but it is exactly the comparison I am making right now. I will probably go with the 1025 because of having a local dealer with a pretty good price. I'd prefer the Kubota because I believe in their ruggedness and durability.
There's a sentimental attachment too because my father bought a little 13 hp B series Kubota for his nursery in the late 1970s. I inherited that tractor and it was flawless for me too. I later got a bigger Kubota. Then a Deere 970 when we moved to Deere country. My Deere was a good, rugged tractor, and had no problems.
Keep up the good work, Courtney. Love your channel!
Got and fair reasoning.Both brands worth getting excited about. worked with farm tractors but never compact or sub-compact. Like the feature of being compact and maneuverable for both brands.
I have just less than 2 acres but a large garden so I prefer the John Deere for what I would get out of them.
Right now I have two John Deere garden tractors from late 1980’s and I would love to swap them for the 1025r with the front end loader and a few attachments and belly mower. It would make my life so much easier.
Great comparison video 👍🏻, can’t wait to see the opinions video
Thanks for watching!
Master C, love the expression when operating the loader. It is like you are pumping iron (bicep curls)! 😁
Great information as always good sir!
looking forward to your next video! GREAT JOB!!
I have a B2601 and my neighbor has 1023, and we’re both happy. Any tractor is better than no tractor. And definitely get the extra hydraulics at time of purchase - 3nd function on front and tilting capability on the rear. If you have any brush, rocks, logs, branches, etc, to deal with, (anything besides dirt) a grapple will be indispensable.
If have a tractor with a bucket is a 5, adding a grapple makes it a 10.
I have a root rake/clam shell/claw grapple. Excellent all-around grapple……
Both impressive tractors. I have another brand of subcompact and am seriously considering an upgrade to at least a newer version and a switch to another brand. Given the additional capacities of the Kubota, I do like those and the fact that is not much physically larger than the 1025R. You did a very good comparison. I am looking forward to your opinion and impression video of those tractors.
Thanks for watching Ken!
I did roughly the same comparison before buying my tractor, and ended up going with the B2301 over the 1025r. The HP didn't matter to me, but the bigger tires hold a lot more rim gaurd and give better ground clearance. IMPO if your going to be mostly on turf get the JD 1025r, but if your going to be mostly on dirt and in the woods get the Kubota. They are both good tractors.
Man you put in a lot of effort for this video! Thanks for your efforts
When I sold JD1025 and switched to 2680 I was missing the most position valve control for 3 point hitch. Jd has, 2680 not. BX2680 is smaller machine compared to JD1025, which look like compact tractor on undersized wheels compared to bx series. Both subcompact by manufacturers but are different animals. Jd1025 is very close to 2601, much closer than to bx. Install smaller wheels on 2601 and you will have exactly same size tractors. Currently own 2601 and so far best tractor out of those. 2650 was too big for my needs. 2601 is much better efficient on fuel, more powerful and comes with 3 range transmission. Many times save me because very low 1st gear. Plastic hood vs metal, or speed control (t. pedal vs twin pedal) doesnt really matter. You will get used to any of type. Only advantage of JD1025 vs B2601 is maneuverability. JD1025 can really turn tight. Loader for Kubota mentioned is LA435, one lever hydraulic coupler.
Big help and advice thank you Sr!!
Great video as always. Another comparison to perhaps include are the bucket volume capacities. Sorry about more math but it's lighter work than moving weights.:)
You mean I gotta exercise my brain?!? 🤣
Great video. I was going to say would be great if you could list the side by side numbers. Yet you already had! Great work and not easy in this heat!
Haha, yeah that was a work out. My back is feeling it today :)
Good information and video, was lots of work!
small tool box is stock on the B2601. The deck lowering if you set the dial to TOP when the deck is up it will stay up. :)
Good video! It hurt me watching you toss all those weights around! Here's my issue--If my 1025r 3 point lifts, let's say, 700lbs, I'm not sure how I get to the minimum ballast for the rear without filling tires and wheel weights, and then that MIGHT put us at the minimum weight of 1,055. Do you think the manual is wrong on the minimum ballast?
Never mind the tractor lifting...You're the champion weight lifter! you moved over 3,000 pounds if my calc is correct! LOL!! Just kidding.. very informative...I guess i expected them to be closer
I really enjoyed this video. I would go with orange because of this video. Great job.
Glad it helped!
I like these neutral comparisons. As one actually looks at tractor models and brands, I find that there isn’t a great deal of difference between the adjacent models. But we all know that each manufacturer tries to persuade consumers that their brand is just a little bit better or a little more premium than the competitions. But when we get to see the differences between not only brands, but models then we can actually determine which tractor most nearly meets the jobs we need to accomplish. Whether it is just hauling a few bags of mulch to lifting a pallet full of bags of concrete. However, for every added feature, pound of lift, increase in PTO horse power, more comfort, and heavier implements there is a cost increase in both the tool hauler (tractor) and the implements. While a Deere 5 series or a Kubota M series might give one more than enough power and weight to do everything one might want. It would still be useless if it was to big to turn around on your property or if you didn’t have money left over for the implements you need. This was a very good and informative comparison. Hopefully, there will be other opportunities for you to continue stair stepping up the ladder. Another very well thought out presentation. Great job.
To “split hairs”, the 1025 seems to fall right between the BX and the B2601 only.
The B26/3350 is like the 2” series JD.
Quick hitch is looking good!
I also saw the mower deck going up and down on the Kubota, so that weight needs to be added! Wooo!
I saw that too. Why would the mid lift go up with the rock shaft unless they always work together?
Formula Firebird (Pontiac 👍) I own a B series and the mower deck, if left on the tractor, is supposed to be pinned to the tractor underneath. Then the 3 point won’t be lifting/lowering it while using other implements and keeps the mower high off the ground.
I like the taller wheels/tires on the Kabota, i like the impressive 3-pt hitch weight ratio on the Kabota, but im still a 1025RJohnny man.
What is it on the kabota that gives it the more powerful lift on the 3-point hitch compaired to the 1025R??? Is there any way to give more lift power to the 1025R 3-point hitch??? Would be nice to see the taller wheels on the 1025R.
Are ya still gitting in some tractor theropy in???? ive been on break from my theropy for over a month! Tractor safe my friend & thankya for sharing this video. 🚜👍😎
Great vid. What's the price difference between the two?
Where would be the best spot to winch out a tractor? I have a job coming up and been weighing my options. Tractor MAY get stuck but have a SxS with a wench. Kinda scared to just snatch onto the trailer moving ball on my back 3pt
I think I understood with the kab.. you had the option to run mid pto rear pto or both and on the John deere it was mid or rear but not both?
I may have missed it, but can you measure the overall length? I've a B2301 coming, and can't find the length from bucket tip to end of 3pt(will help me carve out space in the garage).
Can't wait for the opinion piece!
Is the 2301 the same body as 2601?
@@weightlossandlife917 yes, basically. I think there is a subtle difference in width at back tires. But same frame, different engine
The boot cover on the front of the Kabota is very common I’ve done several of them on my 2301.
Oh I'm tempted to drop off my 2018 2025R, but it's kinda dirty right now...
Very nice compact tractors 👍👍
Glad I purchased a Kubota!!
did you have to ballast the back of the tractor(s) for the bucket lift testing?
You should have taken the mower deck off for the lift test. That adds a significant amount of weight
So hard not to add editorial comments...... but you survived ......and survived the heat too. Kevin. Lansing
So the strap is still in a location around the bucket that is measuring right at the SSQA-which may be a bit different than inside the bucket. I’d like to see this test using pallet forks. You could even adjust the strap up and down the tines to get an accurate measurement at different distances from the pin.
do they have built-in mounts for a 'slow vehicle' triangle sign?
Can u give me more info on the quick hitch u had on kubota
Well done
Only if Kubota didn't have that treadle pedal.
@Bigmanbam44 Interesting as the treadle in one thing that I don't think I'd like on Kubota and am weighing these two models now vs a 2038R.
In my opinion, a more equitable match-up to the Kubota B2601 would be the JD 2025R.
The BX2680 is more of an equivalent to the JD 1025R.
This video is "The Facts". I'll give my opinion in the next video. 👍🤣
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I don't know if there is a good comparison. It's more like if JD currently made a large 2 series in 25hp but they don't.
I agree.
great !!!!!!
Make that closer to 6,000#! go Man!
😂 Thanks!
The John Deere 1025R only weighs about 1400 pounds. I find that the three point hitch lift capacity of the 1025R is engineered relative to the weight of the tractor. The approximately 850 pound lift capacity as shown in the video is adequate in my actual experience with the 1025R. I have never found the point hitch lift capacity on my 1025R to be inadequate. I would estimate that a three point hitch lift capacity greater than the amount engineered into the 1025R would possibly cause stability problems especially regarding the front wheel contact with the ground.
In contrast, the Kubota B2601 tractor alone weighs about 1650 pounds. A three point hitch lift capacity approaching 1600 pounds, as in the video, would be scary to me. I have stability concerns. Also, such a large poundage on the three point hitch lift capacity would probably put excessive weight on the rear axle and other associated components. I do not believe that the three point hitch capacity of the B2601 is engineered relative to the weight of the tractor.
Thanks for the video. I like to see things compared. I considered both Kubota and John Deere when looking for a tractor. When I bought my John Deere the availability of a dealer network in close vicinity to my home was a primary factor in my choice. Now that I have been an owner for three years I have come to favor the engineering built into the John Deere.
You do understand that the ballast with the quick hitch is now farther away from the unit (albeit only several inches) but the physics makes it more difficult to lift the same weight (esp when you are trying to max it out). Example: lift a 40lb box with your arms slightly extended from your body, now bring it in right next to you and see which is easier to lift...
I explain this in another video. It has nothing to do with this test as both are closer than the MFG rating which is a 24" load center. So, this is a apples to apples comparison. I'm not working on a Hollywood budget here in case you weren't aware. 🤣👍
Seems the better comparison, & I know you don't always have the luxury of having the optimal, would be a 2025R vs. B2601.
I did this comparison at the request of numerous folks thinking this was more accurate than the 1025r vs BX that I previously compared.
@@GoodWorksTractors I agree there. I thought I wanted a BX until I saw the comparisons. The 2025R is probably even more comparable to a B2601 but the 1025R & 2025R aren't that different (not different enough IMHO) either although an in depth comparison of them would be nice too. I do like the size of the 2025R & B2601 vs. the 1025R but don't want to lost the maneuverability. On the other hand, a 2038R isn't much bigger & is SO much more capable. Tough decision.
Doesn’t the 1025r have a tighter turning radius? Is the B2601 a nicer fit for a bigger guy, 6’3” 260 pounds?
In my opinion yes. Currently in the market and have sat on both. Honestly the Deere 2 series is the most comfortable in my opinion, l but I'm most likely buying a B2601 or LX2610
Thank you
Have a great day!
Cortney, little off subject, but I cant find your video were you was asking for remedies for the "rosie" spots in the yard. checkout the lawncarenut here on youtube, he just posted about this problem, hope this helps ya,
Nice, I will check it out! I'm still searching for the magic cure! :)
The way you bend your lower back when picking up those weights really scares me buddy. Especially for a tall guy, you can easily injure yourself. Lift with your legs, never your back. Keep your low back straight. Excellent video as always.
I'll be alright, but I appreciate you looking out! Have a good one!
Man you got a workout moving all those weights!
What made that Kubota have such a powerful 3 point? More pump?
did you notice that your also lifting the mid mount mower, so some extra weight is involved
Most of us have seen it - Tim Marks (Tractor Time With Tim ) using his wife, Christy, as a test weight during his comparison. We know Tim has GREEN blood but they were fair and fun tests. Thanks for the tests. Looking forward to opinion. Take care
what is the bunjee cord for?
Where did you get your JD at
13 mins into this and I'm buying Mr. Orange...probably cheaper than Mr Green...oh wait, which one is made in the USA?
Sure, Kubota is made in the Japan. Just like everything that is most reliable in the world. Where do you think the John Deere engine is made? Yanmar? Hmph!
I was at Kubota dealer getting my tires filled with RImgaurd after watching TTWT. I was wondering in the parking lot, and the BX series isn't very big. I think my X585 is physically bigger but weighs less. How would a BX series with the same HP stack up against a X series with a loader?
Good question. Not sure, but the X Series loader is pretty pathetic in my opinion. Beats a wheelbarrow is about it.
@@GoodWorksTractors Hmm... so far I am impressed with X585 with 45 fel find. I moved 20 tons of fill in a day. I like your channel good info on compact tractors. The one thing the skid steer excels at is being able to watch the front edge of the bucket for grading and cutting.
I have lots of experience on skid steers, I have run a small T450 Bobcat and I must say the X585 is almost as good. The 450 has more power and break out force on the bucket. But I adapted my running style to get the most out of the 585. It would be interesting to try a 1025R with its more weight and stronger hydraulics. The tractor doesn't tear up the ground like skid steer.
@@KirtH27 I highly doubt the X585 is even close to a T450 in dirt work. We're talking a 60 hp, 6000+ lbs track loader with 4000 lbs tipping load. Vs a 1000 lbs garden tractor. The T450 can lift 4 X585s off the ground! Plus much stronger hydraulics and tractive effort.
@@royj8549 I agree, the T450 is designed for moving dirt and is heavier built. But I really like my X585
The turn buckle hitch adjustment suck! I hate them on my 2305.
interesting.. /you forgot, the Mid Mower was still attached, So @ the end, it was also lifting the 300+lb mower AS WELL as the stuff on the hitch
How would a b2301 stack up with this pair? Local kubota place only has a 2301 and a 2650, all other tractors are sold out. The john deere place only has a couple 3 series and some big ol 5 series.
Im literally between a 2301, a 1025r, or ordering a b2401 for the gear drive
Those were the tractors I narrowed down to. Check out the Messick's video that runs through the Kubota family. The B2650 was just replaced as LX. I wanted the 2650, as it's a great value, but new are sold out(forever) in my area. The B2601 is the same as aB2301,b2301, but 26 vs 23 hp. At the PTO, there's about a 2hp difference, and for this class, it'd be nice, but not a deal breaker. I'm getting b2301 next week. If you can afford a little bit more, and the slight size increase is ok , I'd go B2650.
@@scurrytom I have gone back and forth a little between the 2650 and 23/2601. I think the 2650 might be a little too big for what I need, at the same time it might be better for SOME of what i want to do. We're only on two acres for now so I dunno.
@@Will-tm5bj yep, right where I was at! Go sit on both and see. I figured I'd take the$2k savings with a B2301 and use some of that for attachments. Plus, I need to between trees. I used a John Deer 3025e (a bit bigger than 2650), and it was harder to maneuver in my trees. Good luck!
You should be measuring from the pivot point of the bucket on both units
Why did you chose to compare the B series Kubota to the 1025R instead of the BX? I would like to see the comparison to the BX.
I've already compared 1025r vs BX. This comparison has been repeatedly requested, so that's why I did it. CLEAR WINNER? JOHN DEERE 1025R VS KUBOTA BX23S TRACTORS! 🚜
I have the B2601. Love it over the green over priced one.
What took the place of the JD
455 desiel lawn mower?
X Series diesel
Good Works Tractors thanks man. Are they as good as what they were?
What about the price ?
Compact verses subcompact how does that work. clearly a different set up tractor. Thanks Larry
Don't ask me. Ask all the people who kept asking me to compare these two machines. Apparently comparing a subcompact vs subcompact isn't a fair fight 🤣🤪👍
@@GoodWorksTractors LOL great job anyway. I got tired watching you do all that work and sweating. Lol
These are the two I’m looking between buying right now. This comparison is right on the money!
I'll take the Kubota
Need pricing for 2601 Mubota ?
Why these two? It’s seems as though the 2025 would be the comparable and a BX would be the comparable for the 1025R.
Because it's the comparison I've been asked to do by viewers more than any other.
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Confused at 2:30 in the video it sure looks like the 1025 Rops is at least 8-10 inches taller than the Kubota is it really only 1" difference??
Picture must be deceiving. Very similar.
@@GoodWorksTractors Thanks for the response. You need to look at the video. your head is level to the kubota and the 1025 is at least 10" above that. Best optical illusion i have ever seen no way those are 1" difference unless the kubota you are showing is a different model tractor. Great video though.
Totally different machines
I just got a b 2601
You did not figure in the mower deck because it was lifting that too
Good call. I should have been stacking more weights on the mower deck 🤣
Not sure we are comparing same tractor class. But the BX series not enough tractor to the 1025R
Should have the 2601 vs a 2038 tractor from John Deere
cannot learn much for not matching a series tractor to the right series of a competitor.
We sure aren't, but I guess you skipped past the part when I explained why. I only made this video due to quite a few folks thinking my comparisons of the 1025r and BX weren't fair. So, compared a Kubota compact tractor to a John Deere subcompact at their request.
What would the difference be with the 2025r if any?
arent you comparing apples to oranges.sure ly the 1025r is compatible to the bx23s?
Yep, I agree. I did this comparison because the 1025r whipped the BX in a previous comparison. The Kubota diehards said it was unfair to compare the 1025r to the BX and I should compare against the B2601. 😂👍
Did you mention the current price points of each?
I did not
Good Works Tractors Are they comparable? I have not priced a B2601 before. I know there are prices on JD and Kubota’s websites, but that’s MSRP and, no offense, but I try to avoid talking to salesmen like I try to avoid the plague, or even COVID-19.
I'll do some research and include in the Opinion video
Bigmanbam44 Thanks! I’m up in the air. A 1025R is probably more than I need, so going even bigger and heavier for something I’m primarily going to mow with may not be the best option for me. Plus, I really like the idea of the drive over quick attach mower.
It is a very quick operation. I can change from bucket and back hoe to mower in twenty minutes total (a lot of the wasted time is just getting perfectly flat ground). I never owned a tractor before last year, and it is that quick for ME. For someone a little better versed in things will be even quicker, the mower deck on and off is really quick, as is the loader .
Why I chose the Kubota.
Random question... how tall are you?
6' 3"
@@GoodWorksTractors that’s what I was thinking, but it helps me get a better understanding at the size of the tractors and equipment
Why dont u stop the bucket at waist height so u dont have to bend over and save ur back?
Tool box is standard
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That is not a fair comparison
I'll give my opinion the next video :)
The boot cover on the front of the Kabota is very common I’ve done several of them on my 2301.
did you notice that your also lifting the mid mount mower, so some extra weight is involved