S5 EP7: WHAT HAPPENED TO NOAH PRESGROVE?
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- KADEN PRESSY CONTINUES WITH HIS INTERVIEW ON WHAT HE SAW THE NIGHT NOAH WAS FOUND DEAD ON HWY 81. ALSO, WE SPEAK WITH JODI BARTH, A RETIRED 30 YEAR VETERAN OF THE ILLINOIS STATE POLICE, FORMER CSI INVESTIGATOR AND CORONER ABOUT WHAT SHE THINKS ABOUT KADEN'S TESTIMONY.
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I said this on a Reddit thread. My son suggested it and when I tried to connect the dots it made sense. I think they tried to ramp over Noah with the ATV and landed on him. That would explain all the brutal injuries mainly concentrated on his upper body. It would explain the drag marks on his body as well when the ATV landed on him and dragged him for a short distance. It would explain why his so called friend can say so confidently that it was a hit and run accident and definitely not someone hitting him with golf clubs or something else. If he was dragged for a long distance there would be no skin left on his body. He had drag marks but not the kind as if he was dragged for a long distance as I understand. He obviously died on his back due to the blood pooling on his back side.
I wonder what time was the last 'proof of life' with a photo or a video of him still alive. I think he died at the time when they said he flipped the ATV. They probably told the flip story to justify any damage and/or blood that could be found on the ATV. I think they might have showered him to get any DNA/blood/oil etc off him and also to wash the signatures off his body. Also they had to include the shower story because even if they hosed him off in the back yard his blood got on them and they had to clean up so if they find his blood in the shower they have a cover story. He was dressed in his black shorts when they dumped him but they later realized the shorts might have DNA/oil or some evidence (maybe it was still wet) on it so they took it and just put a white short next to him. I noticed how they went on about the 'loose fitting white short' that they dressed him in after the shower so they can set up an excuse when the shorts are too big for him and why he would not have it on. They did not think that if there is an accident that can take you out of your shorts there will not be no damage on the shorts... They dressed him in 2 different shoes to try and proof that he was very drunk when he left. So drunk that he left his phone and hat and wallet ect.
The shoes both had debris inside so he would not have walked in them down the road. If his life was in danger he would flee without putting on 2 different shoes. They will slow him down. He was comfortable bare foot so he would have fled bare foot. I think he never walked off the property.
I think the party they had the next weekend was to get all the necessary people together for a meeting to agree to get their stories on the same page as well as clean any other areas. I think his shirt was divided amongst those with information on what happened as a reminder that you will pay as well if you don't keep your mouth shut. The autopsy apparently said that all the injuries happened more or less at the same time and none was post mortem. That would be very difficult if they had to beat him to death with those unbelievable injuries. An ATV accident would explain that. Also normally an autopsy says someone received at least 20 blows or something like that. His didn't. It just says multiple blunt force trauma. I think if he got beaten to death with any object he would have much more open wounds like the one on his head which took the skin off. I think the fish pattern mark on his head might have been caused by the tire patterns on the ATV. I think selling the ATV shortly after Noah's death confirms that it was a part of what ever happened. I think all those that are not talking that know how he died are thinking it was an accident so it is ok to not say a word.
I think an ATV accident explains a lot but of course evidence needs to back up theories
The service truck was a Newton Plumbing and Electric service truck because it was Caleb; Kaden is afraid to say that because the small town dynamics of this case someone in the local LE is part of the cover up, probably Jeremy maybe more than one officer. He’s not safe there his family still has to live there. He’s a good kid for sure his parents should be proud not to sound cliche but they raised that boy all the way right. What an amazing kid and friend to have. The kid exudes honor and dignity and nobility in all this mess. Noah was beat to death with a golf club. Jack dad and Carter and Avery mom are the ones really busting tail to cover it all up. The FBI is probably there to do an investigation on the local PDs corruption💯
Stay far away from all of them Caden! Yes. If it happened once, it could happen again. Thanks for your testimony.
Impatiently waiting for episode 8 lol
Sad how one who stands for the truth always come under attack. Stand tall Kaden you are an amazing young man. This in time will come to pass and your truth will have upheld the facts. Keep speaking up on Noahs behalf ❤
You always hear about how they can supposedly tell if a body has been moved by looking at the liver and other organs lividity, but here we have a case where the body was obviously moved and repositioned postmortem yet the signs of such activity weren’t observed by the ME. So many times authorities take the ME statement to the bank but every case is different and this case is good evidence of that notion. The injuries were so severe because Jack literally made sure Noah was all the way dead, he obviously had a lot of fight in him from the looks of that golf club. One wack would be enough to take me out sounds like he fought a lot harder than that, and was most likely surprised by Jack and didn’t have time to even defend himself from the first deadly blow. I bet the reason his neck is fractured and ribs broken is because he wasn’t easy to kill. The kid looked like a stud with good genetics. After he was down and unconscious is when Jack did all that to him because he’s a coward and would have been dusted by Noah in a fair fight, and not murdered when he got knocked out either.
They DID wash him off after the injuries everyone was helping because they all thought they were screwed. Everyone except Kaden. They dragged him through the field with the side by side and then carried him across the road and laid him on the other side. That’s why his arms were sprawled out and he was all crooked. Whoever put the legs down sat them down first then the torso, carried by the arms was sat down. That would result in that body position. Rene is part of the cover up too, Jazmine mom. Jacks dad Carter and Avery mom and Jazmine mom all in on the cover up big time.
Please ask Jodi about Noah's wounds possibly being from an ejection from a high speed vehicle and diving headfirst onto the blacktop at such an angle that his body crunched into a forward role creating a centrifugal force that practically stopped his forward motion and drove the back of his neck, back ribs, scapulas, and spinal process on almost a dozen vertebra, into the highway, but prevented further tumbling. The injuries seem like a combination of a diving accident and Christopher Reeve's riding accident but on a highway.
That's a great thing there getting his phone looked into about his times
And rob and Cindy u keep sayin ur familiar with the officer handling this case because of a past case in the region, and I’ve got to be honest I think he’s intentionally hanging Kaden out to dry as if he’s a part of the cover up himself. A couple of the families who stand to face the most conviction have money. Jack family has money so does his gfs mom. Then obviously whoever owns that property with the 17 million dollar sand quarry. And Noah’s family seems to not have it so much unfortunately. Money coupled with the small town dynamics on the Texas border gives the wealthy a crazy advantage in the court of law.
I agree what's takeing Feds so long ?why no press conference? Comunity demanding answers due to public safety .
I can’t understand what would lead the FBI to want to investigate this case honestly unless they are suspecting corruption within local PD, just because a case like this usually wouldn’t be investigated by any 3 letter agency.
There’s obviously good people in that community, but it seems to me from an outside perspective that this has been swept under the rug on multiple levels. By kids parents police officers maybe even government officials because at this point the county seat knows all about this.
@@user-qo7pe7wc1o you Kaden?
I’m happy the FBI is on it just wonder what their motive is, is all I meant by that, buddy. And also just want to say I’m sorry for y’all’s loss, truly and sincerely. For the entire community, or least the ones that loved him.❤
Ohhh and they weren’t trying to remove his fingerprints it was for whatever dna/skin was trapped under his nails so someone got scratched defensively.
Allegedly he was dragged by a rope, so they wouldn't get blood on their vehicle.
@@islanderbyrd1881 all I know is jacks dad and whatever officer responded first are the main reasons why no one has been arrested. It seems to me like it’s the entire local LE dragging their feet waiting for it to just go away on its own for some motive aside from laziness. Idk if they are close with jacks family or carters family or the hosts family or all of the above, after all it’s a town with a population of 300 people it would be difficult to not know someone else in town at that point.