PC Engine Trash to Treasure (Pt2) - Fun with the CD ROM ROM
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- We continue our PC Engine restoration today, focussing on the CD ROM2 unit and discovering more about the little 8-bit wonder console.
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I'm totally against destructive mod if possible. Looking at pictures of the AV ports, they are on a separate board with a plastic shell. The crazy solution would be to redo the board and 3D print a new small shell to add a small DIN connector. A more feasible way would be to desolder the red/white/yellow ports to make room for a DIN connector. If you go this way and can provide pictures and measurements, I'm willing to create the 3D model and print it out for you.
I'm answering myself, because of course it already exists: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4098148 Please consider this instead of a destructive mod!
Will unsubscribe if you drill it!
NOTE: If you load Dracula X with the original CD 2.0 HuCard there is a playable mini game that it presents you with. Also note there is an ENGLISH patch for Dracula X for PCE - it can be found here: www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=10588.msg193338#msg193338 and requires TurboRip.exe found here www.ysutopia.net/forums/index.php?topic=69.0
While on the subject of translations Y's IV was also translated to English and can be found here: www.ysutopia.net/projects/ys4/ - As a side note - If any the original team who made this project happen - happens to read this could you please consider translating Dragon Slayer: The Legend Of Heroes 2?
The PC Engine was more successful than the Mega Drive in Japan, and for a short while was even out-selling the Famicom before the Super Famicom came out. Although it was an 8 bit CPU, it still has some graphical advantages over the Mega Drive, it had much better colour depth on screen: Mega Drive could show up to 64 simultaneous colours, PC Engine could show up to 482. This made some of it's arcade ports look much more faithful, see Tatsujin for instance.
8bit CPU but a 16bit GPU. So it's a bit in-between in terms of generations... And yeah way more colors than the Megadrive.
Also the CD Rom was a first as mentionned in the video (1x though, if you guys remember ahah). For audio of course, but also for a ton of animation... I think the next consumer machine with a CD player was the FM Towns which was only in Japan also.
Another interesting piece of ephemera is why the system was configured in 3 separately sold parts (PC-Engine, CD-ROM^2 and IFU) like that. Back when it was released Japan had a rather complex sales tax system, and "Audiovisual equipment" was subject to a high rate of tax. By breaking out the CD player, only that part was subject to the higher rate and the IFU (which was expensive because by the standards of the time it contained a lot of RAM) could be classified as a computer component that attracted a lower test rate.
This is also the reason that stand-alone arcade cabinets sold in Japan were shipped with PCBs containing absurdly minimalist "games" - JAMMA had negotiated a low sales tax rate for "coin operated amusement machines", which included video games - but the definition required that the machine had to be capable of operating as a game at the time of shipment and as a result empty cabs were assessed at the much higher "Audiovisual equipment" tax rate.
This is super interesting, thank you. Also I guess that makes sense.
Heh, I remember getting one of the very first 18GB SCSI harddrives.. it was insanely expensive, full hight, sounded like you were running a giant turbine, and took like 45 secs to spin down completely.. The shop that sold it to me had their entire staff and management present when I retrieved it.. it was at that moment by far the most expensive component they ever sold. And by far the most expensive disk I ever owned.
I 'needed' it for video recording on an SGI machine, obviously it needed an external enclosure and its own PSU. It would have killed the PSU in the machine.
It managed to survive for almost 10 years, after which its motor finally gave up completely. It had serious problems spinning up for the last year of that, often needing 2 or 3 retries (and warming it up slightly)
@Brad Viviviyal Wondered the same. Many moons ago I got a Mac II cx second hand. I upgraded the hard drive to a whopping 40mb, costing just over the amount I paid for the Mac. I am typing this on a laptop that cost less than the 8mb of ram I late put in the Mac....
When I still had my Sun SS10 /20s, I had a couple of full height 5.25" SCSI HDDs for them. If you were to try picking them up before they stopped spinning they were powerful enough to wrench your wrist!
@Brad Viviviyal yeah pretty sure. Like I wrote, it was for recording video, 16mb won't get you far for that :-)
If he was doing video 16GB sounds right. Probably years after I bought three CDC9715 340MByte drives for £3000 each at work. Obviously not for PCs as they only supported 32MByte per drive letter at the time: :-)
@@MrDuncl this was used with an SGI Indy which I owned at the time.. 18GB was the largest available at the time and provided for enough space to record short clips as raw video and do some editing.
Besides needing a dedicated psu, it also required active cooling.
🎶 I met her on a Monday and my heart stood still
CD-ROM-ROM-ROM, CD-ROM-ROM 🎶
I'm impressed with how modern that CD drive seems for 1988 - I seem to remember us using big heavy clunky caddy loading CD drives on computers back then! I wouldn't have said 1988 at all.
Seems like as with most things Japan in the 80s and 90s they were pretty ahead of us. Would love to see that 80s 720mb SCSI drive for the dev kit that the DMA Design guy mentioned!
You def need to play Lords of Thunder, a Super CD ROM ROM. Awesome game, great graphics and the the best CD Audio Soundtrack you can imagine... This game really shows the best the PC Engine can do...
17:40 Sounds like a bin and cue problem. Simple ISOs usually aren't up to the job, the CD audio tracks have to be precisely positioned on the disc
I was going to add it could also be the CD burn speed as well. Usually burning at a lower speed will help greatly with old hardware. Perhaps a plextor or similar cdrom burner might be a good choice as well to try and tweak some settings? Plextors allow stuff like the space between the pits to be set (that was used to squeeze more space on the cdrom or some copy protections). Might be worth checking the cdrom drive and seeing what read speed it's at etc.
There are also a lot of broken images out there - many of the early emulators for CD based systems used a rather nasty hybrid format that used a binary file for track 1 but some compressed format like MP3 for the audio tracks. Later on, when emulators started to prefer bin/cue, a lot of the old bin/mp3 rips were converted into bin/cue format with the .cue filled with data that "looked reasonable".
I have the same seek problem with an new unopened copy of Fighting Street on my Duo RX. Turns out that there was more than one revision of Fighting Street. I found revision five works the best for me. Also, I get the same freeze with on my SSDS3 when using a TurboRip image I made of that earlier Fighting Street revision. I think your CD drive is fine. Just look for a revision five image of the game.
@@billduck would be interesting to know what the exact difference is
THIS. If the ISO was broken down into data and tracks were converted to lossy (MP3) or even 'lossless' (FLAC,APE) components, this can cause issues even with BIN/CUE files to guide the burn-back. Absolute best rips are made to a single ISO image with sub track info, typically extracted from a low speed CDROM using programs like TurboRip, DumpCD or my old favorite, CDRWin (GoldenHawk). I also recommend burning them back to 650MB blanks that use a dark contrasting dye, like the Verbatims with the blue/cyan medium. Also I recommend using an older CDROM writer if you have one handy, i.e. Plextor or even a NEC (hehe) at a slow speed and you'll have the best luck in my experience.
The PC Engine and TurboGrafx are such an under-rated machine.
I just love British youtubers so much more than American youtubers. Videos like this prove this to me time and time again. I love the calm, soothing approach. The lack of a "CZcams voice" and no screaming means I can watch these videos all day. Thanks for the great stuff :-)
Thanks Phil I'm glad you're enjoying the vids!
Just a thought for modding the PC engine interface to RGB with minimal damage.... drill a very small hole near the normal outputs for a 3.5mm audio jack wired into the stereo out, and desolder the composite and RCA audio jacks, this frees up 3 correctly sized holes for you to install your RGB RCA connectors, you could even potentially use the earth connections provided by the composite and audio..
You should try the CD ROM ROM images in an emulator and see if the same freezes happen. Its possible the images themselves are the problem.
This was my thinking also. Not every ISO works as intended, in my experience.
@@ericwood3709 Tell me about it, having to rebuild the ones I came across as they are split and the audio is in APE format.
@@enigma776 And I've had issues just making images of PC games. Found that bin/cue is better than iso.
@@ericwood3709 Yeah CloneCD is even better as it copies the sub channel data as well. but Bin/cue will get most things done.
Anyone suggest a good emulator that runs the CD ISO image files? I tried a few and got one working, but music tracks did not play or correctly.
I love these trash to treasure series. The attention, the craftmanship, it is simply hearthwarming 😊
Thanks a lot ! This is a bit of an older video I didn't see at the time, but the Supergrafx was my first console (after an Amstrad CPC 6128) so this one brings a lot of memories... I moved to Japan a long time ago and am slowly buying back my old ludotheque, but prices are getting a bit crazy, even here (still cheaper than Ebay of course). You guys are absokut legends!
I have recently built myself a MiSTer FPGA. The PC Engine is the library I have been spending the most time on with it. We never got the PC Engine here in Australia so it's a new experience for me and I am loving it. Hopefully there will be a CD Rom core for the MiSTer so I can experience the PC Engine CD games as well.
Hey Neill, rather than cut new holes, you could replace the yellow video cinch connector with a 3.5mm TRRRS jack like used for some headsets, eg 102-4968-2-ND on digikey. then get a premade trrrs cable and cut off one end and replace it with scart or whatever. the whole jack assembly is on a separate pcb, so you can just use your pcb instead (strip board). add another jack for stereo out, and you're left with a hole for another mod like a turbo switch or whatever. If you also use your own psu jack, you can swap things out without stripping the old board. or use micro usb instead and an LDO to derive the nec's internal 3.3V bus from 5V, and you don't need a crummy old PSU.
Another amazing episode - thanks! I was surprised when you said you overlooked it as a mere 8-bit machine when you think back to how the UK games magazines hyped the PC Engine back in the 80s. As a child, I remember thinking that the PC Engine was the pinnacle of console gaming right until the dawn of the Mega Drive in the late 80s. The PC Engine has a staggeringly great library of games from its lifespan - enjoy!
the pandemic cannot stop the PC Engine from making a comeback in 2020. the original hardware is in the process of being accurately preserved for all future generations to experience. Cheers for giving this original unit some love! Such a great and unsung library to many in the world.
I literally just went through all this...I recapped the PCE, the CD, and the case. I then used the rgb amp from Voltaire's mod shop made specifically for the IFU and finally wired it to an 8-pin din so I can use my genesis scart cable. Wonderful system, really!
Was it broken when you recapped it?
It worked but one cap in my PCE had leaked over the entire PCB. Also, the tracking on the CD was faulty and a full recap did nothing. In the end I had to adjust one of its potentiometers to get it working reliably.
A full recap would not improve tracking. Enough electronic experts do tell people that recapping does not fix the problem 88 percent of the time
I am loving this series. I was a big fan of the console's US release, and still have a working TurboDuo, which was a single unit PC Engine, CD-Rom2, and the Super CD System software, all in one. The PC Engine was a great little console that never got the love it deserved. Can't wait until Part 3.
16:58 it’s not easy to put the RGB output with RGB AMP on the back of Interface-Unit, it’s better to put on the left, more space for cable😉
My favourite channel on CZcams! An absolute gem! Keep up the great content, Neil! You are the Tony Hart of retro gaming.
Thanks Ian! I need a Morph to assist me!
RetroManCave All you need now is the gallery.
Neil, thank you for continuing to supply us with your great content in these definitely interesting times. Your channel is among the best CZcams has to offer, and it certainly is a great asset to the platform. Thanks for making our visits to CZcams so much more worthwhile than they would be without you inviting us to the cave!
Interesting part of that controller is that it seems the turbo switch pads are there. I love this system, I genuinely wish that NEC and Hudson were a bit more versed in advertising in the US. Oh well, at least we have the RMC to ogle the awesomeness.
Only on the later versions of the white pads the original ones didn't have the turbo pads or the plastic bits.
I have had a CD player since the mid 80s, and a burner since the late 90s, but I’ve never gotten over optical media. It’s still awe inspiring that you can do all this stuff with a shiny plastic disc. Not to speak of how you can write your own. It’s either magic or witchcraft and nobody even cares. ;-)
you: cog behavioral therapy
me: COG AND BALL TORTURE
Would love to see you tackle the Nintendo Famicom disk system, lots of those have died due to a simple rubber belt failing and then owners not being able to realign the drive mechanism properly after replacing the belt. I think that Famicom and especially the disk system is a machine you'd really enjoy having a play with, fixing and owning in your collection. Really enjoy the channel, so far this year you've made me want a PC engine(again!) and also spend hours playing with my BBC Model B, Mmmm ELITE......
thanks for the video. it's always nice to see people restoring old electronics and bring them back to life
Regarding burning at the slowest speed- That advice was general advice back in the day for a successful burn process, back when the concept was fairly new. The reason it was recommended was to prevent buffer underrun, where the high speed of the burn meant the computer could not keep up with the burn process and keep giving it data to write, which would cause the burn to fail. Slower speeds meant the system didn't have to supply data as quickly and prevented the burn process from failing in that way. Nowadays, A modern system isn't going to have that problem. Additionally, CD Burners have had buffer underrun protection built into the hardware almost universally since 2006, so even if it was possible, It would not usually cause a failed burn. It's pretty interesting how that general advice to prevent creating what were effectively worthless unreadable coasters has by way of being a common tip for those having problems getting things to burn has now also become general advice for making sure older systems could read it. My understanding and experience is that it is never really the case that burn speed affected the readability of the resulting disc in different systems, (assuming the burn process was successful, of course). The quality and construction of the disc tended to be what mattered with regards to whether particular drives could read the burned disc.
I miss my TurboDuo. I should've never sold it back in the day... I played hours of 'Gates Of Thunder' and 'Ys: Books 1 and 2'. 'Gates of Thunder' has a fantastic soundtrack. And 'Ys' was the first console game I had ever played with actual voiceovers. I was always a fan of the Bomberman series, so finding Bomberman as a hidden game on the included TurboDuo game CD was a nice surprise (Up, Left, Down, Right in the main menu, IIRC...)
There's a horizontal side scrolling shoot-em-up called 'Download'. Let's just say it has some *interesting* translation choices on it's game over screens for a comercially released game.
Regarding modding the interface unit, if I were you I would look for some kind of round connector that has enough pins to output RGB, and which is small enough to fit inside the recess of the interface unit on the side that already houses the existing jack pack. You may even be able to use something like a 8P8C (RJ45) for that. Drilling holes in the back and having RCA plugs stick out would be very ugly.
I really enjoyed the background music you put in ! This gives it such a nostalgic and chilled vibe.
But honestly I would NEVER drill any hole in the interface unit, it is in such a perfect shape and RGB output was no option in 1988 so it shouldn't neither be one now. Anyway that's just my personal opinion.
I was an English teacher in Japan at the time and I bought one of these. I used the games as a way to learn Japanese. Anyway, I only had a few games but that machine was pretty impressive for the era. My favorite games were Ninja Spirit, Splatterhouse, R-Type and Jaseiken Necromancer.
Learn Japanese with Splatterhouse! If it worked it worked!
@@RMCRetro I would have to say the vocabulary I learned was a bit odd, but at least the grammar was functional. :) I also learned by watching anime, so I may have sounded a bit like a manga character. :)
I have the same set, but the cd-rom unit was missing. Mine has been in the box for decades. I've to say this was the most advanced gaming system at that time. Just look at its design, it doesn't look out dated even by today's standard.
I really loved my Turbografx-16 I had back in the day, as well as NEC's aggressive advertising including regular "Play Tours" with their competitions (I actually won one with Blazing Lasers). I was disappointed though that I had to buy a "Turbo Booster" just to get stereo sound and composite output. That said, the PC-Engine is nicely more compact and the way they added that CD-ROM (never could afford that attachment for my system) briefcase-style was well-designed. I often carried my systems to friend's houses and that would have been a better and sleeker way to carry it than throwing the system in a bag or backpack.
What was the prize for winning the playtours?
@@syphic You know what? I don't really remember. Bear in mind this was a small thing, not leading to something like regional, then state, then national championships. In fact, there were two or three competitions per play tour location- I played two days in a row for second then first place. The winner of the first one played again like me and came in second the day I placed first. Anyway, the prizes were the equivalent of a game for second (it might have been a gift card- I don't remember) and the first place price was a few hundred dollars I think.
@@QunMang I was asking because I have 2 promo shirts from the event.
@@syphic Nice. I had two shirts myself, but I think they are long gone (might still have one stored away, but even if so it's not in great condition if I remember correctly).
i have a terraonion super SD 3, i highly recommend it for the RGB and amplified audio out, and it has all the cd rom cards built in, and plays iso etc :) also happy to print you a part so you don't need to drill! i'll catch you on discord.
Used to drool over R-Type in the magazines for the PC engine as a child, back then it seemed so unreachable. C64 still did the Job though.
80s were the best and what an amazing console. Enjoyed this
This compact, yet powerful machine is not just any old 8-bit system, it's a full blown early to mid '80s 8-bit video arcade cabinet, with all the acceleration support chips super compressed down in size to something that fits onto a tiny PCB! No wonder it gives many 16-bit home systems, never mind other 8-bit ones, a run for their money! :-D
So the reason it holds its own when compared to the SNES/Megadrive despite being 8-bit is the PC Engine actually has an 8-bit CPU but a 16-bit GPU.
I admire how calm and methodical you are with your restorations.
A doo ROM, ROM,ROM, CD ROM ROM :)
I think personally the most well known CDROM2 game is Akumajo Dracula X aka Rondo of Blood.
If you ever get your hands on an Arcade card then definitely recommend Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire as it is probably the most technical game on the PCE.
An 8-bit console? Whaaaaat the hell, I never knew that (where's my DUNCE CAP, i'm off to sit in the corner )!! Your right, it really is a wonder console and massively underrated.
Oh boy, the briefcase! I used to own an IFU-30 modded in Japan for RGB, the RGB+Audio output was on the right side (a hole was of course drilled) opposite to the side with the AV and power connectors. The mod used a robust 8-pin DIN connector and a tried and true THS7314 RGB amp (not the THS7374 more popular nowadays). Looked and sounded great. The key problem was the CD-ROM2, which kept performing inconsistently with some games even after having it fully-recapped and calibrated by a professional, even when using original pressed discs! The thing is just too finicky, and especially Super CD-ROM games really pushed the medium. If you want to minimize your headaches while exploring the wonderful PCE CD library on original hardware, I recommend leaving the cool-looking IFU-30 as a decorative piece, and using one of the Duo units for playing, unless your next steps in this restoration project happen to be enough for your unit. Those are much more reliable. Also, although the SSDS3 is often recommended as an ODE solution, it is not nearly as accurate as advertised, so I would suggest avoiding that as well.
Really digging the Jean-Michel Jarre vibes in the music on this one.
I, just this week, picked up a PC Engine modded for composite out. It's badly yellowed, but it works. Very excited about it. My only game at the moment is Bomberman '94, and oh how I love it!
recap is a good idea. 3d printed io panel is also a good idea so holes wont have to be drilled
Another great and Informative video, thank you! This is the first technology video my wife actually sat and watched with me as well, and she usually hates them! Looking forward to part 3!
Was everyone else picturing the Mattel Aquarius at 00:40? I used to have a core grafx but sold it ages ago. I want this set up now! Thanks for saying joypad; too many say controller these days
Holy fuck, that console is adorable! I love how small and neat it looks. And it turns into a suit case! Also, I am impressed the CD laser still works. Any time you find a PS1, the laser is most likely needing to be replaced. Gamecube lasers are also known to die, I know it happened to me, when I owned the console as a kid.
Thanks for all of your fantastic videos! To try and preserve the case. You may use a 3.5mm tip, ring, ring, sleeve plug & socket (like those used for earphone, microphone combo sets) for your RGB mod.
You can replace the headphone socket with this socket. Looking forward to your next video.
PCE/TG16 is a great console. I enjoyed seeing you work on these since I've not had the pleasure of opening a PCE before. Very interesting and entertaining!
The C64 component mod uses an TRRS headphone connector for Component/RGB output in a non-destructive way. Maybe the same idea could be used on other systems by simply replacing one of the existing connectors with that. To free up a hole, you might also consolidate the RCA audio connectors into a single headphone connector.
I'll certainly look into this, non-destructive is always my preferred path, thank you
As always great content and great presentation, with your narrative skills you could make documentaries voice over at bbc. Thanks a lot for your work Neil! Cheers
Wonderful video of a little known and fascinating system.
Argh! I was waiting for part two to watch b2b. Now I have to wait for part 3.
Another great episode, many thanks Neil! I enjoyed the “cog behavioural therapy” line too!
Absolutely brilliant documentary! What attention to detail ! A great pleasure to watch!
Those warning screens :D The cats my fav' but the squished face under blacklight (?) has to be a close second.
Not sure which I enjoy more, watching the restoration process, or the little puns that come now and again.
Cosmic Fantasy 2! I loved that game back when I owned a TurboDuo in the 90s!
Nice to see you get excited about the PC Engine, it's my favorite retro console!
What about the joypad? Was it resolved with a cleaning or are the carbon pads worn out? The final verdict was omitted from the video.
Matthew Christy 4 days without knowing the answer to this important question. How rude ;)
Multiscan0001 lol 🤷🏼♂️
I remember playing Prince of Persia and Golden Axe on the IBM PC platform.
It was never as good as what is on this little beast. PC Engine would be one of the best 8-bit devices out there.
its technically not 8bit only the CPU is
Another excellent video, loved the first part and waiting on the third.
I noticed your RGB Scart lead in part one, i bought one of those from a guy in Sweden many years ago when i bought my first
PC Engine , nice to know the guy is still making them, i never modded my briefcase but bought one modded , there definitely great consoles but there definitely not 8bit as you keep saying, you would have to say there 16bit because of the video chips.
Now all you need is the Arcade Card Pro for those games that require the extra ram.
Keep the great videos coming, superb
Batman for PCE is a must-play, IMO. Very weird little Bomberman-like game based on the 89 film, with even some upgraded versions of tracks from the NES game.
Really nice seeing one of those. I was lucky as a kid to borrow one for a month or two. I remember a Rambo? game, or commando type on the CD that seems a good memory to me. Was a good time they weren't easy to get on import & a friend knew a guy from a magazine.
"It's all getting a good scrub" - classic episode then.
Legend of toma. Had the arcade version in our local pinball hall which we loved but it never come out on Australian systems basically nes and sega. We used to read the magazines from the uk and could see the pc engine for sale, with there game library but it wasn’t sold here.
This system has a flash card for it I think which allows you to play the US, Europe and Japanese titles plus you got all those dodgey CDR's you can make as well. I think that opens it up for a big library on this system. Keep in mind these old systems only really like 1 speed burning or it just won't play properly throughout the copy.
I’d greatly suggest on only recapping if you can confirm modern burnable discs aren’t the issue, and that old caps are duff.
It’s a great misconception that throwing capacitors at electronics fixes, or in fact some how makes the performance better than before!
You should also try an alignment using governor adjustment holes.
Seeing those games running... No way was that 8 bit! Seriously impressive, comfortably going up against the ST and maybe even the Amiga.
Only the CPU was 8bit iirc, the data and memory buses were 16bit. Much like some Intel chips around the time had 8bit/16bit and 16/16bit versions.
I have the black version of that NEC portable CD player. They took that model changed case coloring and added the data port. If you find a picture of that drive you will see it's identical except for it black. I remember being a kid noticing it was exactly the same thinking I already have a turbo cd I wonder if I can make it work....lol
Was able to find a white audio only version on Google as NECs first portable CD drive. It came with headphones, shoulder strap and dock for home stereo. It was actually our first 'home' cd player.
I may be wrong but the data version of the drive was called cdr35 I believe.
Fantastic Part 2!....really impressive for an 8 bit machine!
Oh yeah, so you replaced that retaining clip for the cog like it was nothing. When I did it, I had replacement clips that were TIGHT. I lost a couple of them when they went flying, but eventually got one on there after a couple hours! lol
What a lovely machine. Now I need one to add to my collection.
The PC-Engine CD soundtrack of Shadow of the Beast is fantastic.
Lords and Gates of Thunder.. Cracking soundtrack. Rock on! Good SHUMPS. I have a Draw full of games for the PCE-CD (around 50) and love this system.
I have the Duo-R and a complimentary Turbo Everdrive. Such a great system and so underrated here in the UK. Imagine the lineup if we have got this here!
As for the seeking.. The PC Engine CD-Rom streams the data track as Audio (yes.. Audio!) so if the cue files is not 100% accurate you will get this excess seeking as it will attempt to load data and end up with audio causing the crashing.
if you have a chance, PLEASE get to play the classic "YS I & II". A must play game for PC Engine CD ROM system. The game ages very well, evidenced by the fact that the game studio still release remake of it. AND, the sound track has THE best of all version, if not THE best of all games in that era.
Kss-220 by sony and a very good lens still used in high end cambridge audio and other hifi CD players.
But you cant beat an early mk1 cdm-0 Philips init.
Good job matey
It almost looks like Commodore got their cd32 design from that PC engine.
Pedro Gordinho I thought that.
It's somewhat closer to the Duo.
Though of course, Commodore had previous in the CD department.
I was just about to make that exact same comment. It must be the 90s technology fonts used for “CD-ROM” and “DIGITAL” etc.
My cd module decided to give up out of blue just because I found JB Harold murder club to play next. As you said on the video, this console is the first classic one I decided to buy after moving overseas because the game library is so odd and fresh. I always find something new to play, which doesn't happen with the SNES and mega drive.
My guess is the laser that went caput, as disc is spinning but no reading is noticed, even from music cd's that are "easier" to read.
All after getting a new 32 inch CRT tv, curved with component input but several issues. I had to discharge the tube 4x to solder broken stuff I didn't notice at once or broke after a little more usage. Now that I was ready for some fun...
At least I can play the pc engine games as I have the turbo everdrive.
If I were you I'd try R-type complete on the cd rom. it's the best version with the best music.
Superb console like the design of the unit how it all fits together the rgb mod is will be fine on the back where you will not see it and no doubt you will do an amazing job of it .
really like the look of the cd drive case it sorta looks like a high tech car of that era
Nothing like the original hardware!!! Fantastic video. Keep up the fantastic work. Thanks for sharing.
CD rom rom. So nice they named it twice.
I met her on a Monday and my heart stood still
Da doo rom rom rom, da doo rom rom rom
I can't wait for the cave to add a nec pc-8801 to the collection, so you can go and put the cd-rom(rom) on the top of the tower, as a regular cd-rom...it's awesome! Seriously though, always wanted that console but quite hard to find here in France (back in the 90's and now) and i'm waiting for my pc engine mini to come and enjoy all those wonderful games ( especially splatterhouse and wings of thunder). Just discovered your channel an i'm really enjoying your vids, kepp the good work and stay safe cave dwellers.
Fantastic episode!
Another great episode the PC Engine is just a flat out awesome system. I made the mistake of bringing a scart cable for it with me to Japan doh! Composite cable should be with me today can’t wait to get back on it and enjoy it :) I do like the look of the full unit but the SD system 3 will do me fine :) I guess does that mean I have a SD system system system? 😂
I think the PC engine was great and dominated the 8-bit era but it was pretty late in the 8-bit era only giving it about a year of glory because when the Super NES released in November that year after this in 1990, it really stole the show
Great to see it working again!!! Try Taiyo Yuden discs, I think JVC make them. They are by far the best recordable media to use with CD based systems.
Thanks, yes indeed I have a spindle of 100 on my desk after a tip off from Mark Fixes Stuff for the same brand. Fingers crossed they give better results
@@RMCRetro Great =D
I really think the problem is the burn speed. I have an LG burner that burns @ 10x and it works perfect for Saturn, PS1, Sega CD but Turbo CD will not work that great at all. I'm even using Taiyo Yuden as well and have the images in the correct format and even using a Duo-R
Just in time for some lazy afternoon viewing!
Franko I did not hit her.
Nice job - seems the main drive gear / plastic cog wear is the main problem with the older drives - enjoy.
RGB amp probably only needs an hole for the scart lead unless you add a connection for a detachable 3rd party lead, like a saturn / MegaDrive2 RGB scart lead & suitable mini din. connector.
Everdrive is the best route for HuCards as they are very expensive - CDR's less so lol.
Hope you sort out the gameplay freezing issues.
Touching Memories is real....
I got a broken CDROM2 in my atic missing some plastic parts since ten years, I may take more time to compare it with you video. Thanks
Great to see something like PCengine get some love. Bit sick all the C64/Amiga videos. If I hear about SID, Paula, Agnus chips again. Arggh. PS GadgetUK did video replacing that cog and trying to calibrated laser. Just FYI😊👍
I suggest you play Gate of Thunder and Star Parodier, a couple of amazing shmups for the system! Keep up good work!
Clicked this so fast... thanks for another one! 😁
Thanks Ray!
Don't look past the high write speed issue, I always remember it being an issue with newer burners on PS1 and PS2 too~ with some games.
Try and get hold of a Duo-R, no bad SMD electrolytics like the Duo. Arcade Duo card is much cheaper than the Arcade card for the regular PC Engine.
My favourite game on the system is Soldier Blade, perfect shmup, on a machine with loads of shmups.