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5 Minutes On... Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 7 (D major) | Daniel Barenboim [subtitulado]
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- čas přidán 27. 10. 2016
- Daniel Barenboim | 5 Minutes On... Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 7 (D major)
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This is the most endearing of all your 5 minute videos. All people should be aware of this idea that talking about music is talking about ourselves. I'm really grateful for hearing in words what I have sensed all my life.
Mauricio Schwarz Bravo!
"Music can really only be explained through sound." ❤️
Wonderful
Tell us more about the great Arrau.
To be so old, and have such articulate fire come from his fingers, that’s why I’m loving these!
Again, so few words, with such a relevant content. It's that type of content that is rare and glorious to find. Thank you again, maestro! You're an inspiration for us all. A welcome new breath in music interpretation.
2:18 I love Sir Barenboim's most enthusiastic laugh
Mr Barenboim you are a genius
Your musicianship is amazing
Daniel, I am grateful to you for the excellent talk. The best to you! Thanks a lot
The finest music is indeed something I cannot put into words. Beethoven's 6th Symphony is one such work for me. In the final movement there is a short clarinet duet, merely a handful of notes, but it is something indescribably beautiful to my ear. I can speak with gushing praise about the playing, the orchestration or the conducting. However to say how this short phrase brings me to the brink of tears every single time, to say why it does this, is an impossibility. It is an illustration of complete beauty, perfection, and for me to have experienced that listening pleasure remains a privilege I feel I have never earned. Music does this.
Please do a video on the Pathetique Sonata. I am working on that piece and would love to have some expert advice. Please do all movements and make the video longer than five minutes, five minutes is not enough time to go through the whole sonata. Thank you!!! 😀😀😀
I agree! Or the Appassionata!
Thank you very much for sharing your musical mastery. It´s always a pleasure to watch your videos.
Maestro Barenboim, many thanks for these great videos! But don't you think that 5 min ist just too little time for such rich and complex pieces? I know you can't lecture for 3 hours, but even an increase to 10 or 15 min would give the audience a much greater opportunity to understand and appreciate these great masterpieces. Thank you very much!
I am pretty new to classical music, but I am mesmerized by your playing and want to hear more. I stumbled on this chat and felt a great relief to think I don't need to worry about interpreting it "correctly", rather, I can simply enjoy it. Thank you for sharing.
When I want the best, my most rich, impression of a piece for my sensibilities, I immediately search to see if there is a Barenboim version. If there is, I am NEVER ever disappointed. Your "touch" is my north star even though I am merely a middle-aged beginner. Thank you for sharing your beautiful music/gift.
I really enjoyed your 5 minutes series. Thank you Mr. Barenboim. I wish there were more.
Music doesn't exist on its own. It is an interaction between the artist, the listener, and the piece itself. It is the same with literature, theatre, or the visual arts. The piece is interpreted by the artist and the listener or viewer. This story is a great example of that.
Thank you Maestro! We are blessed to hear your thoughts on such beautiful music.
Thank you for this wonderful example of how the performer's conception of the music informs the listener. That is why one can listen to the same sonata played by several different artists and be touched in as many different ways!
Brief but informative thoughts on this work by one of the great living masters of the profession. I was particularly heartened to hear it said that a composer's music does not necessarily have anything to do with what their lives confront them with at that time. I teach this all the time in my classes at the university. Glad to have it said here!
Maestro, There are no words to express how deeply your playing has touched my soul. I recently discovered you as part of the journey I'm on grieving for the loss of my Father. Since his passing I've come back to playing piano and was searching examples of the pieces I'm working on. When I came across your videos I was left breathless and speechless, which positioned me entirely transfixed and absorbed in listening. In any case, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart and soul for giving me these precious gifts. Little did I know when I heard you play that your are also a truly master at writing and philosophy. I was a philosophy graduate, focusing in political philosophy. I have since devoured your books, and again thank you for the mentorship and inspiration. I feel that you embody the essence of profundity. I truly hope, now one of my greatest wishes, it to have the opportunity to hear you play in person, and also to speak with you if possible.
The Sound of the Barenboim Piano is really good and interesting !
Ah the 'Barenboim' piano sounds fantastic..
I just learnt that this is a prototype built by Chris Maene, in collaboration with Daniel Barenboim. So this piano is a real thing, not just a Steinway and a sticker with his name on it, ha ha
It was announced back in 2015 that Sir. Barenboim was unveiling the ground breaking piano inspired by Liszt's piano design. I also had a chance to hear the sound at his recital this year in Helsinki- it sounded so clear and the voices of the piano were extremely pleasing.
Seongtaek Kwon Not only that, but he plays it well too😜😀
Maybe because the sound comes from Barenboim’s fingers... but piano does its part
Wonderful thoughts. It reinforces that music cannot be tied down. It is felt and interpreted differently by different people, yet never loses its value.
The fact that music is best left describing itself through performance rather than words is equally true in regards to musical criticism. "lacked ineffability", "too soundy", "crsip and fragrant with a note of Corelli", "distant yet remote at the same time", "minimalist excess".
Sadly a short video, but so wonderfully valuable! I'll remember the message and the lesson you've taught us here, Daniel. Thank you.
you explain everything so well. I could spend the rest of my life listening to your wisdom.
Thank you maestro for sharing your knowledge so generously. This is a very special forum for those of us who love music so much, to come and discover and learn from your experiences. I am fascinated by the piano as well.
Thanks Sir, this five minutes open my mind in three notes
When I was a kid I would watch wrestling every week. Mondays became so precious because of wrestling. It's been a long time since any day of the week was associated with the joys of a new episode, but your channel has brought that back for me.
Fridays have become the day of a new five minute video. I smile everytime I see a notification for an upload. For this along with the fascinating and original lectures, I thank you.
Can you do Rachmaninoff's piano concerto 2/3
Is Rachmaninov himself asking for it? XD
As ever, I listen to Daniel Barenboim playing the full cycle of the 32 Beethoven Sonatas, and this insight in to your thinking is enlightening
Francis
el mundo Beethoveniano es muy complejo...sus 32 sonatas son por si mismas un universo!!gracias maestro Baremboin por su magistral leccion.
As far as I'm concerned, this is God shining his light on us from heaven.
So, as the essence of music can only be experienced and never be expressed by any words: does it still make sense to speak about music? I think, yes. Because explanations and telling about our experiences in combination with the music may reveal us new aspects that we did not perceive before. Explanations may point at many aspects of sound, harmony, melody lines, proportions, expression layers and much more, so that afterwards our music experience may be richer and deeper than before.
Thank you so much for the multitude of ways in which you help us to be open to the mysterious and intriguing dimensions of music.
Amen! This is why I'm musician; to express the un- explainable! There is a metaphysical reality and truth to our human existence that music points to. It's a mystery left to awe ,wonder and beauty!
Oh, we talk so much about our reactions because we have no choice if we want to communicate. But so right we aren’t talking about music. By definition it’s impossible. What a lovely and memorable 5 minute talk.
The 4th movement of the Piano Sonata No. 7 has been an obsession of mine for many years. I find it fascinating and kind of maddening how all pianists--and I have yet to find an exception--basically race through this movement as if they had a train to catch. This includes Claudio Arrau, or at least a 1984 performance in Chile that I just listened to here on CZcams. There is a section of this movement--on the second page about two thirds of the way down the page, starting with a high "F" in the right hand, and lasting for 10 measures--that has a humorous "mechanical rabbit" quality to it, and I have no problem with that section moving along briskly. But the opening three notes of the movement, for me there is a sort of gently wistful quality about them that suggests that they are not to be hammered out. (And then immediately rattling away at a quasi-presto tempo, trampling the tender quality of the music. I have yet to find anyone who doesn't do this, and I can't make any sense of it. Does Beethoven write, "To be played in a uniform tempo and heaven forbid any rubato or anything that might suggest a sensitive rendering"?)
With this one sonata, for whatever mysterious reasons, it seems that everyone seems to feel that the point is mostly to rip through it as fast as possible. For my--granted, I'm just an ungifted
amateur "home hobby pianist"--ears, that approach brutalizes the music in a way that suggests that pianists seem for this sonata to have decided that sensitive playing and phrasing is to be dispensed with. I actually find this movement--even with the animated "mechanical rabbit" 10 measures on the second page--to be tender and in places elegiacal. And passionately beautiful in a way that I have yet to hear anyone realize. If you look at the Heinrich Schenker edition, I'm talking about the section that begins in the 2nd measure of the last page of the 4th movement. In the left hand there are three sixteenth notes leading upward, D, F# and A, leading up to D. For me the left hand at this point should have a swelling cello-like sound and full voice quality to it. But what I never hear pianists do this. It's always "off to the races" and zoom-zoom-zoom to the finish. Those measures are incredibly beautiful and worthy of bringing out, but since I have yet to hear any pianist do this, clearly I must be deluded and wrong. Fortunately, as an amateur "home hobby pianist," that's my privilege, and I will never be castigated in any reviews for my "unorthodox" approach to this movement. But I do hope that someday I will come across a recording of this movement that has a less perfunctory just-racing-through-to-be-done-with-it quality.
Again, this sonata movement seems to be an exception. The rest of the "32" Sonatas are generally played with sensitive regard by pianists. In any case, this movement makes me wish I were a real pianist so I could perform it "as I hear it and feel it." Even though rotten eggs might get thrown at me for my relatively "sentimental" approach! Mr. Barenboim, if you happen to read this, here is wishing you all the best always. I love so much of your playing, and I always really enjoy hearing you talk about music!
thank you for reminding us about the danger of choosing adjectives to explain the music...music really can only be explained through sound...
music is just what it is, music, it is so complex that is undefinable...
so simple we don´t hear it when it happens...
to me the best music i have ever heard was my mother singing casually and informally tidying up the house.
that sound had a better quality and a higher magic than most of the many classical recitals i have heard.
it was fresh, natural, authentic, lovable...
¿what are your loving musical memories that made you become a musician?
That's a very sweet anecdote about your mother's singing at home. I generally would rather listen to an untrained voice than an operatic voice; there's something so charming and authentic about it.
Thank you so much for sharing this wisdom. Words are unable to communicate the message of music.
And are most likely to contaminate or corrupt the musical message.
My favorite movement in this sonata is the 3rd movement, the minuet and trio. It is sooooo beautiful.
Thank you, Maestro!
Thank you very much for giving an insight to music and what it really means to the untrained listener. It truly gives more appreciation to the listener. Take care.
Such playing; first the humor then the tragedy.... in the end music is beyond words, it is what it is.. each to their own.
It is so helpful，thank you very very very much.
Mr. Barenboim..it's always a great pleasure to listen to your lessons. 👏👏👏🎼🎹
Muchísimas gracias, Maestro Barenboim, por su mensaje tan verdadero y contundente, en 4:44 min! Soy un músico chileno (profesor universitario), y no podría estar más de acuerdo con ud.. Es hermoso además constatar, que Fischer y Arrau fueron "compañeros", bajo la tutela de Krause. Un tremendo saludo desde Viña del Mar, y espero que se encuentre mejor de salud!
Very interesting that comparison between Fischer and Arrau when you realise both of them had Martin Krause as their teacher (who in turn was a pupil of Franz Liszt). Gives even more credit to Maestro Barenboim's analogy
Thank you, oh very interesting! Music is a language and Beethoven language give me so many feelings!!!
Music is connected to our own experiences in life...I'm agree with Maestro Barenboim...It seems Beethoven wants to say, after the silence, "And now what...?"
I'd give my right hand to play the piano like Daniel
Haha
Gracias Maestro Barenboim. Sus comentarios son siempre de una gran profundidad. Imprescindibles para seguir estudiando y haciendo música! Saludos desde Argentina!
Thank you for sharing your experience with the great Claudio Arrau. It says a great deal about him and his severe view of music. I would have never described the finale of op. 10 no. 3 as tragic, and even after hearing Arrau's explanation I remain unconvinced.
Gracias Maestro Barenboim. Cuanto aprendo escuchándolo. Lo saludo con afecto desde su país Argentina.
Yes! I have felt this, and you have expressed it so well. Music is beyond words. To me it is the language of God. It can make us feel emotions, which we can name. But we are talking about ourselves, not the music.
That was a really insightful and educational five minute Clip on one of Beethoven's early sonatas! Thanks Barenboim!
Hermosas enseñanazas,usted es un gran pianista, saludos desde Ciudad Juárez, México.
Mi admiración para usted👏👏👏👏👏🎹🎹🎹
Art is subjective. It is of itself. It’s independent of us yet it only comes to life when we experience it. Then we must penetrate its innermost depths and try to understand what the creator is communicating to us, and hope that our perception is true. But it can change, as we change.
Thank you for making these videos :)
only to thank you for being at the beginning of my life and also towards its end, someone i sort of know ... thankyou
Great lesson. thank you!
Thank you for this extremely valuable series of lessons dear master Daniel Barenboim.
Dear Maestro, I enjoy and learn a lot when I hear you. It´s perfect for me: direct and very easy, today: three notes that sound like ourselves. I couldn´t imagine another example so true. Thank you!!
Que hermosa clase, gracias maestro!
Igual pienso, sucede con cualquier arte. El diálogo que se establece en el arte es connotativo, no denotativo, y en esa medida su carácter, lo que dice, siempre estará sujeto a la interpretación de quién lo escucha, lo lee o lo observa. También en quien lo interpreta. Es su magia. Su realidad irreal. Gracias. Siempre es una alegría escucharlo.
Poignant thoughts and a solemn perspective on Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 7.
Thank you for enriching my enjoyment of classical music. Your voice is almost as beautiful as the music!
I love Daniel ❣️
It´s very touching that you talked about my Chilean fellow Claudio Arrau. I didn´t know he was so serious!
The wonderful possibilities of convincing and cohesive interpretations in music are not a danger to anyone who is free to feel and express the meaning one expresses at the moment. The creator (composer) and the re-creator, who is the performer brings new life to music each time the two meet. Regardless of centuries and environment, the respectful dedication to truth can never overcome the life's ever changing quality of rebirth. We are all different each day of our lives and we must never allow a stale and rehearsed interpretation to stamp itself onto a masterpiece of music. Yet, many great pianists have done just that. Expressing this insight with words or with playing, in my opinion is alike although words indeed can never hold the subtlety and the depth of opposites music can contain.
sou o maior admirador do mestre Daniel Baremboin, maravilhoso mestre
sitting here stoned bingeing Beethoven's piano sonatas
wow 4th movement of No. 7 is really cool--wonder if anyone has anything to say about this
only . . . Daniel Barenboim
I sincerely respect you.
Once I played Wagner's overture to Parsifal to each one of my relatives and each one thought of different things while I played, from a peaceful walk in the woods to a mourning funeral procession. This experience made clear to me how a same piece of music can evoke such contrasting feelings.
bravissimo maestro .Amo beethoven
Dear Maestro Barenboim, according to your - convincing and charming - lecture, piano and music teachers consequently should not just convince their students of their own understanding and interpretation of a piece. But instead they should nurture the students’ sensibility and awareness, and animate them to find their own access and version. Nevertheless, trying to cope someone else’s version from time to time may also open the conciousness for new experiences.
So, as the essence of music can only be experienced and never be expressed by any words: does it still make sense to speak about music? I think, yes. Because explanations and telling about our experiences in combination with the music may reveal us new aspects that we did not perceive before. Explanations may point at many aspects of sound, harmony, melody lines, proportions, expression layers and much more, so that afterwards our music experience may be richer and deeper than before.
Music Film Art u gefällt mir sehr gut und ich bin mit dem Beitrag von Daniel Barenboim, den ich sehr verehre, vollkommen konform. Danke, thanks for the 5 Minutes. Gerda Lambrecht
Music can only be explained through sound, don’t try to use adjetives. I have had that sense of simplicity when listening to music, looking at paintings, or even tasting wine. I am glad to confirm that sentiment, I will not feel dumb again when someone tries to use adjetives that I don’t understand.
Admirado Maestro Barenboim, permitame unirme a las felicitaciones que ha recibido por esta excelente iniciativa, que nos permite entender mejor el maravilloso mundo de la música clásica. Con todas las responsabilidades y actividades que tiene, es muy encomiable el que haya encontrado tiempo para enseñarnos de manera tan pedagógica aspectos de la música clásica que solo su conocimiento lo pueden lograr.
I love the third movement, the menuetto, in this sonata. There is something about it that I really like. Anyway, thank you for another interesting video Mr. Barenboim.
Cher Maestro.... Vous résumez en quelques mots de ce que l'on ressent en écoutant de la musique .... Ces sons nous touchent parce qu,ils nous ramènent à quelque de très intérieur, la musique nous parle sur un autre registre , elle touche directement au sensoriel.... On ne comprend pas pourquoi on pleure en écoutant une œuvre....et pourtant
¡Gracias a Uds, Maestro!
👏🎼🎼🎼🎼👏👏👏👏
I 100% agree with him!!
Dear master Baremboim thanks a million for sharing! You,re teaching abilities and explanations seem to me truly fascinating, indeed!!that,s why I'm hooked on your channel..
Thank you for explaining it in such a simple way....
Adjectives are the only way I can communicate to another person what I feel when I listen to the music. Ambiguity of such adjectives are just a sign of complexity and subtleness of the music. I see no harm and no danger in the fact that different people might perceive differently the same sound.
los adjetivos pueden causar confusión de la misma manera que un interprete puede llenar de matices una obra sin faltar a la partitura original, un placer
Thank you Maestro
Maestro, este video es el que mas me ha gustado. En Mexico hay un programa de radio llamado La Otra Versión (94.5 fm) todos los martes por la noche, donde se escuchan diferentes versiones de una misma obra. Tiene un tratamiento parecido al aquí expresado por usted. No conozco a la gente del programa, pero si un día Ud. viene a México vaya al programa. Es el mejor de la radio en nuestro país. Saludos y felicidades por estos cortos. Podría hablar de Bach? Goldberg?
AMAZING.. AND SO IMPORTANT!! THANK YOU, MAESTRO!
Merveilleuses explanations! Merci pour la Mystère de la Musique transmite par Daniel Barenboim...
Thank you maestro for this captivating moment.
Dear Maestro, it is great that you spend time on Beethoven's music. every chapter was very interesting and i am waiting how i wrote few times for an analize of Beethoven's symphonies. I pray for V,VII and especially VIII (my favourite)
Super interesting talk, please, keep on talking about how we attribute meaning to sound!
La música no es ni humorística ni trágica, simplemente Es.
Yo le iba a preguntarselo si conoció alguna vez al maestro Claudio Arrau. Y este video, me ha contestado esa pregunta. Muchas Gracias.
Wonderful and enlightening. Can you make a video about a piece by Bach?
The beauty of different interpretations is that there is always room for a new perspective. I see innocence. I see a little boy prodding his mother for something. . "so can I?" To me the 3 chords are a questioning motif. Perhaps it's just being "ignored" by Mama, and thus the silence awaiting an answer,. Yet he prods again and again. With the deceptive cadence on bar 7, perhaps the answer is, "maybe, if you do your chores". But finally bar 9 gives us the perfect cadence with resolution, and joy to follow. . . . OR: Are those 3 chords asking, "Do you love me?" Is the recipient being coy with a "maybe" in Bar 7? Is the answer "yes" in Bar 9?
Is this denoting tragedy? Yes, it could. Is it innocent? Perhaps. Ah, Beethoven, you leave us much to ponder!!!
Maestro, you remind me here of the great French-Russian philosopher (and pianist!) Vladimir Jankélévitch, who says in his La Musique et L'ineffable that music cannot be "described" in the way a musicologist or reviewer might attempt to do. Music is always an acoustic phenomenon limited to the time that it sounds-you can only encounter it and give yourself over to the "Charm" (charme) it casts over you. He stresses this so much that he marks a vast contrast between music and "saying"-he says music is in fact "a form of silence," the attenuation of the Word, a silence that demands that it alone occupy acoustic space. Thank you for this.
I like so much that piano.
Great stories for a not so well known piece of Beethoven.