DJI OSMO POCKET 3. D-LOG OR NOT TO D-LOG? THE RESULTS ARE IN......
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- čas přidán 7. 01. 2024
- Thanks to your feedback from my last video, I decided to go out and try using the Pocket 3 in the normal colour mode to see if there is a huge difference when compared to using the D-LOG profile. The results are......... well, you'll see!
Please leave some opinions and feedback so we can keep the discussion going!
Thanks,
David.
Footage looks great and colours appear very accurate. Mine is due to arrive in the next few days, so will be continuing to check your excellent channel for tips.
Thank you Eddie!! You must be really excited for it to arrive!! I absolutely love mine and it’s the best thing I’ve bought in years!!!
I’m just waiting on the strap adaptor coming back in to stock so I can go hands free when hiking!!!
Let me know what you think when you get yours!!😊🏴
Every bit of observation is another usefull part of the guide to using the Pocket 3. I'm still waiting for delivery of mine and snippets like yours are another part of the puzzle. Thanks!
Hey!!
Thank you very much my friend!! Glad you enjoyed the video. Hope you stick around for some more.
You must be really excited for it to arrive! They are such amazing wee things🤗🏴
You surely show your investment. I previously bought the Gopro11, but the pkt3 was my hidden choice. At 64 I'd like to start making vids on personal likes and views. A plethora of ideas, but limited ability. This is a challenge I'm keen to jump on and you're a "best step" on acheiving a stumbling move towards a goal I've set for myself!
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Thank you for making this video. Added the pocket 3 to my video making kit and it’s been confusing on whether to use the vlog, HLG or the ‘normal’ color profile. I recorded in HLG thinking it wouldn’t be as much work then finding out afterwards, so much more work. I have a FX3 and don’t mind color-grading but when you have so many different video sources (iPhone, GoPro and now pocket 3) the work adds up.
I agree, the footage you took is more than fine and I am well and truly sold on plain-Jane color profile. BTW, subscribed!!!!
Thanks for the Sub and WELCOME ABOARD!!!
Also, thanks for taking the time to comment. It is much appreciated! Since making this video I find that I swing from DLog to Normal profile from time to time. They are both incredibly easy to work with but I still find the conversion LUT oversaturates things and I need to dial it back quite a bit!
I still love it and it’s an amazing bit of kit!!!
🤗🤗🏴🏴🤗🤗
I've only just noticed this excellent (short, yay!) upload. Very good illustration of the high quality of the normal mode. It seems to almost be like an AI thing, not just plain exposure setting - for instance, faces against a bright background don't go dark which you might expect. Personally I'm not into colour tweaking much, so I'm very content to use the normal colour profile by default.
Hey Peter!
I am getting into colour grading just now and it’s a whole new discipline to learn! If you are sticking with the normal colour profile then it’s going to be great (and easier!!)
The dynamic range of the thing is incredible. Still absolutely love it and don’t regret a penny spent on it!
Have a wonderful weekend!😊🏴
Depends what you want to do with the footage/the output/if you want to grade to match other cameras or for an aesthetic.
Also depends on how you are with grading. I always shoot LOG on every camera as I love having full control and flexibility, and get the most dynamic range out of the image.
If you’re after a more “straight out of camera” look, then standard profile is fine. If you want to do any significant tweaking/grading to the image, then 100% LOG.
Thanks Gav! Can I ask you a question? With the Osmo D-Log, I find that the DJI conversion LUT is very aggressive. Do you need to ‘convert to Rec 709’ or can you just colour correct the D Log footage in the editing software? I have done that in FCP and I’ve never had an issue with it. I’m just not sure if this is converting to Rec 709!!
@@davidmuirphotography I never really use conversion luts, I just use the curves to bring the contrast back in and the saturation manually, and then create a preset (I work with Final Cut and filmconvert nitrate mainly)
I’ve struggled with the phrase ‘you need to convert it to Rec 709. In my head I thought that was a definitive thing, like almost a coding format within the video file that other software would recognise.
I now feel it is just an upper and lower limit that you stay between to maximise details and create a video that will be most accurately represented on the widest number of displays. I now just use colour wheels and amend the luma values to not peak and everything in the middle is personal preference!
Still don’t know if that’s right or wrong!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@davidmuirphotography The DJI LUT is definitely aggressive and many times I have to dial it back a bit in order to get the look that I like. But no applying it is absolutely not a requirement. If you can edit the footage to your liking manually then by all means do it that way.
Normal DJI looks great, going to use on mine saves a lot of work, just a few minor adjustment as you say keep it simple
Would be really interested to hear how you get my friend!! 😊🏴
Hi David - this video shows very well how good the normal colour profile is. I have not seen anyone mention that if you use H265 as the container, the normal profile saves in 10 bit. I have tried editing 10-bit normal profile shots, and unlike the 8-bit shots, I get a lot of latitude when editing the colour. I have pushed some of my changes to the limit to see if I get banding, and I could not see any. Have you had a similar experience?
Hey Col!
It’s a similar story here. I’ve aggressively pushed the 10 bit footage and it really takes a lot for it to fall apart. I accidentally forgot to change back to D-log for my last video and all the pocket 3 shots were using the normal profile, some MotionVFX plugins and the colour wheels in FCP. Really pleased with how it looks!!!
When I use my DJI Action 4 it's definitely D-Log all the way, but with my Pocket 3 it's darn near perfect in the Normal color setting. I hate to admit it, but it's maybe BETTER than I could do if I shot it in D-Log and then color corrected.
I kinda feel the same Tim!!! It even has enough headroom to apply a LUT over the top without it looking terrible!!
That said, I’ve tried a few DLOG clips recently and instead of using the DJI conversion LUT, I’ve just used the colour wheels in FCP to convert it myself and it looks a lot better!!!
At least we have options!😁😁🥳🏴
The colors in normal mode are great for sure. But there is too much contrast and sharpening for my taste. If you want ease of use and aren't that concerned about getting the best quality out of the P3 then normal color is fine. But if you want to have as much control as possible, more latitude in editing, and the best final product (assuming you are familiar with editing and basic color correction,) then DLog is a must. Besides, applying the DJI rec709 LUT to your footage is trivially simple and should hardly be a reason not to shoot DLog.
Hey!
I’ve been continuing to shoot log using the conversion LUT. I’m starting to see benefits of it in certain scenarios. As you rightly say, it doesn’t exactly take long to do it!
It’s nice to know though that you have a choice and the other option isn’t a bad one either!!😊🏴
Normal looks fine
I thought so too!!! Thanks for the comment my friend and have a great week!🏴😊
But this isn’t normal colour profile. It’s filmed in normal, but then edited. This doesn’t help anyone? Can you make a genuine comparison?
Timely video. I just took my Pocket 3 to Japan with me and shot everything in D-Log. Not too much of a pain to color grade but I was just wondering if it was worth it. I think I will try this way for a while and see if I can tell the difference.
Would love to see your footage from Japan! Would absolutely love to visit there one day!
I’ve shot another video today in normal colour profile so I’m keen to see how it handles in post!!!
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@@davidmuirphotography Still editing it all together. I will post a link here when I get it finished.
The Japan stuff is taking more time, but I did complete a video with a side trip to Seoul. I am working on getting the audio figured out. The music levels and the overdubs are way off. Forgive the amateur production, but I am pretty amateur. There are a few parts shot with iPhone 14 Pro Max but the majority is shot with Pocket 3 in D-Log and color graded in post in FCP.
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Oh. Maybe links to videos don't work in comments. I guess that makes sense.
This is from the account I publish videos on. If you want to see Seoul shot with the DJI Pocket 3 go to this profile. I set up my epidemicsound account with this profile so that is why we continue to use it.
The normal color profile in this video looks like it was color graded or had a LUT thrown on it. I have a pocket 3 and my normal color profile does not look anything like this, especially the green color tones.
Hey Michael. There is a MotionVFX Movie look preset on it and I mentioned that on the video (I think!). I was just wanting to see if you could edit a video and colour grade with a starting point of the normal colour profile without it falling apart. I was pretty happy with the results.
What did you think? Thanks for messaging and watching the video!😊🏴
@@davidmuirphotography I do really enjoy the look of that preset, are you able to share what the preset is called? If I am able to achieve those colors, shooting in a normal profile, would save me so much time.
I can’t remember the specific name off the top of my head but it is contained within the MLUT Movie pack. I can get you a referral link if you like. Not sure if it gives you a discount. For transparency, I would get a wee kick back from them as I am affiliated partner! That just happened last week!🥳🥳
@@davidmuirphotography Definitely! If you can find out which one you used for this video, I’ll purchase it through your affiliate link!
@@switzmoto motionvfx.sjv.io/c/5070509/614046/10011
Nice video.. Doing my part to get you to 1000 subs.. I just crossed that threshold myself..
Congrats on hitting 1000 my friend! It’s been a year so far but I didn’t post very regularly in the first 6 months so I’m hoping to reach the 1000 at some point in the summer! I’m finding the 4000 hours watch time more difficult as some of my videos watch time from a year ago is starting to drop off and it can be quite demotivating to see your watch time actually go backwards on certain days!!
Onwards and upwards though and I won’t be giving in!!!
Really nice to hear from you!!!!🤗🤗🤗🏴🏴🏴🏴
@@davidmuirphotography I literally got 16k watch hours in 3 months! But it was mostly based on a remastered concert video and YT is claiming it as "reuse" so I'm having problems getting monetized...Can't reapply until June. sigh
If you shoot on D log then what do you do if you have to use the low light setting that you can’t record in D log?
Hey!🤗
I have only used the low light setting a few times and I found editing the normal colour profile in fine! I was just careful when trying to boost the shadows so as not to introduce noise and artifacts. The colour looked great though! 😊🏴
Which settings did you use for this video?
I would need to check but from memory it was 60fps, 4k and normal colour profile!!💪🏻💪🏻🏴🏴
i think the mic is broken. there is more sound in left side :(
On my video or on your Pocket 3 mic my friend?🤔
@@davidmuirphotographyits in the start of the video. When next scene comes sound is OK again.
@@danludvigsen1974 I’ll need to keep an eye on that!! Thanks for the heads up!🤗
But this isn’t normal colour profile. It’s filmed in normal, but then edited. This doesn’t help anyone? Can you make a genuine comparison?
Hey Wolfie!!
I take your point but the point of the video was to see if you could colour grade and edit normal colour profile footage without it falling apart!
Would be happy to do a direct comparison in a future video and hopefully it will help!!
I have another video coming out in a day or two but I’ve already shot that so it won’t be in this time!!
Thanks for taking the time to message! How’s weather where you are? It’s -7 here today!!❄️❄️❄️😊🏴
@@davidmuirphotography Ahhh, just to see if the 10bit norm had enough room to edit? Got ya 😊 Well it appears so, as your edited footage looks fantastic. I think the regular norm right off the SD card is too “digital” and also too sharp to be honest. So shooting in PRO and norm colour with reduced -2 sharpness will be the way to go. ☀️ It’s 29° today here in Australia 👍🏻
@@davidmuirphotography Or maybe a better comparison would be D-Log/Rec. 709 vs the normal color profile. Without editing either video... I think that would be more realistic comparison and give the Pocket 3 a chance to shine...
That’s funny that you say that! It’s pretty much the settings I was planning on going to myself. I will reserve to DLog for projects where I’m going to heavily colour grade everything to a dramatic uniform look I think!!!🤗
We are heading back to -5 over the next few days so maybe head to the mountains at the weekend for some snow videos!
29 degrees!! Wow!🤣🏴🤗