And here I thought manual landing in X3TC was complicated. Until I tried to land my small starting ship in this game, rammed the hangar door twice, missed the pad four times, got shot to pieces for loitering, and finally smashed my ship into the landing strut with a accidental boost. Good times :)
Playbahnosh Yea I'm having trouble in some places others I have no trouble. I think it might be my facing I'll try that. I had no trouble with the training docking this is like my 10th dock in game. Well just tried again logged out and retried and got it my first time, maybe it's a issue in game. Oh and I loved docking in x2.
@@exodore2000 do more than 20 times and it gets easier every time. Docking is easier for me than aligning with a station entrance that rotates. This rotation makes it harder.
@@ozstockman yea that rotation can be a killer. Have you tried docking in a damaged station? I've gotten better but still run into issues with larger or "wonky" ships.
@@exodore2000 I have decided not to play a real game until I can enter a station with my eyes almost closed. Docking I have mastered to some degree but entering is harder. I know it is going to be harder in real game so if you can do an easy one with no ships and debris I do not see any point to start playing. I am just practising when I have some free time. Since docking is easier for me now after doing it 20-30 times or more I just do that training for practising entering, them do a bit of combat training. I will get to the real game but so far I do not think I am ready.
Just a note: In order to dock, the front of your ship must be facing the tower (the collection of buildings). If you're facing the angled retractable ramp, you're backwards and are not going to be able to dock. Had to find out this tidbit on Reddit, after I overshot the pad and had to turn back to find it.
Tip for noobs: Don't retract landing gear until you have exited the station. This keeps your speed down and disables boost (as a misplaced boost will end your trip real quick)
Yeah, I thought that was bad advice given on the video. I've been playing for a long while now, and still keep my gear down until I get to the letterbox. It's far too easy to misjudge the gap and end up redecorating the station wall at high speed. It's not much of an issue in a stock Sidey or mid-spec Cobra, but when you're looking at a multi-million credit insurance bill for your A-rated Asp, you tend to try to be a little more careful in docking areas.
Teknotion Upward thrust(use x/z thrust to align), disable gear, keep reticle on center(use the upper and lower parts of the entrance to judge if you are center), crank on the throttle. I've been playing a week and i can nail coming into(and exiting) stations at max speed in the cobra. It's honestly not that hard with a bit of practice(just playing) and it'll be important for you to do this if you want to handle stolen or illegal goods, to avoid the scan you typically get on your way into a station.
If you've ever jumped out of Supercruise at a station and found yourself at the wrong end, here's a handy tip. Note the 3D graphic of the station on the bottom-left of your screen. It's not just for show. That graphic shows which way the station will be oriented (relative to you) when you jump out of Supercruise. So you want to jump out of Supercruise with the docking slot facing directly towards you. When you approach the station in Supercruise, instead of heading directly for it, approach it off-center until the station is rotated around so the docking slot is aimed at your ship. For example, if the docking slot on the station is currently facing right, then start passing the station on the right until the last moment. Then when you swing around to face it, the docking slot will be directly ahead.
The human race invents space travel, builds a space station the size of a small planet, makes airlock entrance for large space ships the size of a letter box.
They made it large enough to fit the largest ship that should dock in that way, larger ships use a different docking method, the standard docking platforms can't support ships any bigger.
When docking at the big stations, the audio cues from the station's traffic controller can help you pinpoint the location of your landing pad before you get inside. If he says, "3,000 meters from touchdown" just as you're passing through the gate, your landing pad is at the back wall of the station.
Its supposed to be a simulation you know, of course it's gonna be hard, have you ever tried to park a car in a tight spot? what about a truck or a bus?
I appreciate this is essentially a hardcore sim, and someone like me, who's never played a PC flying/sailing/yodelling/whatever simulation, is going to find it a steep climb to acclimatise, esp. since I'm playing the XB version which has less attention paid to it...neverthfuckingless, I have never played anything, in my twenty-seven year history of videogaming, that is anywhere near as obtuse as Elite on XB. I expected, and am fine with, complex, demanding, etc. - that's what I wanted TBH. What I'm NOT so fine with is when entire, crucial game mechanics and control systems go completely unmentioned even in the training sections. I really shouldn't have to trawl YT just in order to find out how to ask for permission to dock for example...the training mission asks you to do it but then can't be bothered to tell you how to! How much effort would it take to consistently display the controls on screen? I could go on, as there are a lot more examples of this throughout - I've barely left the training missions(the bits that are meant to SHOW YOU HOW TO PLAY) and I've had to go quite deep online to finish more than one of them. Don't get me wrong...everything I've done with my ship has been absolutely exhilarating; the game just feels right; but when you have to watch a tutorial in order to complete a tutorial I think it's fair to say that the devs haven't done enough(in fact they haven't even done the bare minimum) to help acclimatise newcomers to the game's mechanics. It's been years since E:D was released, and it's had a lot of iterative love and attention to dramatically broaden its horizons, but it remains almost intentionally opaque to newcomers. Considering how satisfying it is to actually play, and how many newbs are thirsting for a game like this(eg. see the hype surrounding NMS), it seems crazy to make it so inaccessible.
I'm use to playing simulators, I played MSFS for decades, until they stopped making them. Learning to play this game is like trying to figure out how to fly a plane with no flight manual or instructions. The tutorials are about as useful as calling AT&T for customer service. They mention a few keybinds to help you in some instances, but outside of that they don't tell you squat, for instance. I absolutely could not figure out how to make a docking request. I banged around on the keyboard until eventually the menu popped up on the side, then I banged around even more until I figured out how to change menu tabs, then I bumbled around on the keyboard more to try and figure out how to actually select the contact to dock, but then there was no contact options. I banged half of the keys on my keyboard and nothing. Whoever came up with the training portion in this game has the intuition of a rock. If I was going to develop a complex system I would damn sure find a way to communicate how it all works in exact detail, not leave people hanging on little to nothing. Very disappointed with this game and I haven't even gotten to the main part of it.
regardless If you missed the instruction or not it should not be so complicated. There should be a running history of every prompt but there isn't. And I've noticed if you don't do everything specifically in (other than actual docking) an arbitrary set amount of time they don't tell you about and if you miss it you've broke the game and have to restart the training.
This was 5 years ago!?!?! I just got the game and have the same problem. ACtually I just comepletly QUIT the tutorial because the drone i was supposed to shoot insisted on flying right next to the "border" of the tutorial. So every time i got close my ship was taken over and i was reset. My question is why are all the basics largely SKIPPED. "You have wokn up in a strange spaceship... fly it and destroy some stuff. Oh dont worry about those screens do it on your own time" basically.
Slow and steady wins the race. You don't get prizes for artistic flair. Boosting through the letterbox at 450+ Km/s is down-right stupid and dangerous... and also a hell of a lot of fun!!
Can't believe how the video guy completely ignored the Red and Green lights telling you which side to exit, bad Commander! XD - good thing nothing was coming the other way! haha
I can't believe people that don't know that the red and green lights are meant to mean Port and Starboard or left and right like they are on ships, and air planes and runways and stuff in real life. Not go and stop.
Andrew Hall I can't believe anyone bothers to look, i just look for an opening an fly at it full speed. Not yet hit anyone.. maybe other peeps just enter more active ports than i do, traffic has never been an issue.
Yo all I need to know is the fookin button to push to get my landing gear out and Not only can I not find it in game settings but this man says "now press the button you have bound for retracting your landing gear" like, he really couldn't just list the default button real quick
This game is very immersive! Although I have to say, blowing out a ship for blocking the entrance doesn't really make things better, now instead of a single, solid ship, you're going to have many debris floating wildly in and around the entrance, even inside the docks. XD "Oops, should've just towed and impound that ship"
Never crashed on landing/docking so far after 200+ hrs of flying. But I remember once I entered a starport with the flight assist (or the gravitational rotation assist) off. Oh boy, that was fun. :)
I got really frustrated- I got into the docking bay fine, but once it came to land on the circle, my ship would no longer let me maneuver on a horizontal axis and wouldn't let me land.
Thanks so much. I'm using PS4 PRO with TM HOTAS but could not scroll the left menu to ask for docking permission, the light bar would only scroll the bottom of the menu but refused to go to the top for the docking requests. I'll try it with the Dualshock PS4 controller and see how that goes but i really love to use my HOTAS for obvious reasons. Thanks for your video and happy flying.
Impressive, such a smart game. Apart from my rocketship's landing gear does not respond. I have tried to re-programme the key on my Saitek X52 Pro, but to no avail. If the landing gear has been damaged, wouldn't there be some kind of warning light in the cockpit?
+Barry Williams The control key wasn't set by default. I haven't played the game since the day I wasted 2 hours trying to learn how to dock. It looks fun, but I don't have the patience to get through whatever that is they are calling tutorials. Before I turned it off, I blew up twice without realizing that the direction you face when docking mattered, as if turning your ship can't be done after liftoff. Whoever programmed that should at least try observing a marina once, at least once.
Good information, but the distance you must be within to request docking in now 7.5km not 7. Also, keep your speed up exiting the airlock as well as entering or you will get a reprimand. They layout of the docking request screen has changed a bit, making it simpler. To be sure you are docking in the right direction, look at your ship hologram - it should show your ship facing away, not toward you.
If you get a luxury passenger ship, like the Dolphin / Orca / Beluga, you should definitely get the auto-dock computer. It's nice to let the ship do all the work of docking for once, especially on high-gravity planets or Outpost stations with weird landing pad layouts.
In Freelancer I could press 'F3' and it was done... I didn't have to agonize for 30 minutes around a station then finally relent and watch a 4 1/2 minute tutorial on it..
You can also play a FPS with auto-aim or no distinct hitboxes. Some games want to make you feel like a pilot. Others can be played with a NES controller.
Then keep playing Freelancer. Period. There's a vast number of players who don't like stupidly pressing an ominous key and have the game playing it by itself while you're watching it. That's not playing a game to me. That's training a monkey to press a single key to get a reward.
@@chibibuu There is no docking computer with a basic ship for beginners training so your point is not relevant. And even if there was the fun is in playing by controlling it not to let a computer do everything for you.
I'm right above the assigned landing pad but I cant deploy my landing gear by pressing L as my default button, remapping it also doesn't work so I can't land :(
When I return to surface the training guide says to select "launch". I use the space bar to select launch, but then the menu disappears as it should, but I do not have control over the engines. In fact, I just get told to select launch again. But I can not get the central menu back to try again. The throttle is definitely set to idle.. what am I doing wrong?
Ok I'm going to need to buy a joystick. After reconfiguring the keyboard and mouse controls. I changed the X axis on the mouse to yaw instead of pitch and made so the mouse controlled the ships rotation : Left mouse button pitch left right mouse button pitch right, mouse wheel forward pitch forward mouse backward pitch backward. Then I made so the arrow keys control the maneuvering thrusters. I kept the "W" and "S" the same for speeding up and slowing down and kept the "X" as the break. I changed the "Caps lock" for forward and "Left shift" for reverse. Now instead of crashing into the station or my docking permit timing out trying to maneuver into the entrance of the space station I finally managed to dock, but my Sidewinder will need a new paint job.
Yeah, I mean that make sense. It seems very engaging and realistic. The thing I would stress out over the most would be getting through the airlock in a large ship. Just in this video alone I felt super anxious when it seemed like the pilot was really close to the top as he re-entered the station.
Like driving different size cars, you get a feel or bearing for the size and when you fit and don't fit, and how close you can get based on your view point. I get prox warnings constantly, not scraped anything in a while though, just gotta get a feel for your spacecraft.. ;)
Hello 2 everybody. Just bought the game a few days ago for PS4. Testing the tutorials. One question, when I leave a station you've got to pull up the landing gear (circle+down arrow) but when I try to dock, seems I can not pull down the landing gear. What I'm doing wrong ? Thanks in advance.
Do those Red Green exit lights mean anything? In flight sims, whether for landing or in-flight refuelling, they were used to aid the pilots alignment or landing glide path. I noticed the red one was flashing in this video.
+Jeorney red should be to your left and green to your right, it's just so you know your orientation. If green is on your left then the nice advertising boards are upside down :D
im trying to dock at bakers prospect. my landing gear is out and i requested to land before hand but once im on the landing pad theres no option to dock. is this a bug?
Game is renown for very hard learning curve. (Message for non-simulator fans) expect to invest at least 50+ hours in this game just to learn the basics, after which you will get constantly pwned by high skilled veterans because they removed the single player.
You forgot to mention that the side with the green light is an indication that no ships are traveling through that side coming the opposite way (so coming in while you're on the way out, etc).
just another point on the video, isn't it 7.5km to request docking and not the stated 7km? aside from that, great video, I actually learned something even though i've been playing since beta, didn't know the compass points to the pad which is useful for when the pad is right near the slot and i miss it. thanks!
The most difficult and frustrating game I have ever had the displeasure to waste my money on. Docking, using a mouse and keyboard is pretty much impossible as is combat. Don't Bother unless you are interested in spending days trying to perfect your motor skills to that of an elite gamer.
I don't think I've botched one landing yet, or at least I haven't slammed into the pad full speed and exploded. I just take it slow and it's not too bad. Though I'm usually facing the wrong way half the time
The way he landed isn't necessary. Just line up with the landing pad and land it like an airplane. Landing gear down, approach landing pad, line up with markers, throttle down and skid until you are lined up. Very minor damage to shields and faster to land.
This game is meant to be tactical and precise. It is meant to be "hard." People wanted a game that made them feel like they were actually flying a spaceship. I've only been playing the past hour and been having the time of my life figuring out how to fly, dock, launch, and travel. It's because it's so intricate that make's it so COOL. I could easily just space out for hours with just the beginning missions because it's so immersive. You guys just don't want to appreciate what's been given to you.
+Sean Paul Thunderpants back when i played tachyon: the fringe i dreamed of playing like this, of course i want to be able to be fined for fucking up, dude. This is such an amazing experience, docking feels so magical... i mean, fictional. i dont know. damn ... this game. im in pure love with it
I do. I'd just like it if the game showed you how to. I completely agree with most of what you've written - I've no problem w/ 'hard' or 'complex'(this is a game about flying a spaceship after all). What I do have a problem with is when entire gameplay mechanics and the controls required to use them are left out of the game's help and tutorial systems. Small example - nowhere in the game does it tell you how to request docking permission. Not even in the official tutorial video online. So I had to watch one redundant online tutorial vid and then trawl a few message boards before I could even get partway through a TUTORIAL mission. That's not 'complex', or 'demanding' - that's laziness on Frontier's part, and it's inexplicable when the rest of the game is so exquisitely designed. To reiterate - I certainly don't want the game to be less complex...I could've bought NMS a few days ago but the simplicity of the mechanics seemed offputting. Instead I bought the XB version of E:D, as I'd had an eye on it for a long time anyway(I was waiting for the Horizons expansion). This is my kind of game. But there's nothing stopping Frontier from making it much less pointlessly inaccessible, nor is there anything admirable in forcing a new player to repeatedly google the controls just so that they can complete a fucking tutorial. Perhaps this is more of a problem for the XB version, IDK, but either way there's no excuse.
Compared to the original Elite.... it's positively easy IMO.... though buying an auto-dock program at earliest opportunity makes it so much more pleasant :)
Sean Paul Thunderpants An can agree whilst I did find it a bit tricky to understand I soon found an entire galaxy at my finger tips filled with enemies and trade. with the horizons pack I also have an even bigger adventure.
I am having so much trouble finding the controls for a lot of things.... (Keyboard +Mouse) So how do i use the navigation? i found how to get in there, but can't find how to select "contacts" or anything other then the Navigation tab ... Cant' dock .... Help! please!
If it is an official training it sucks. You need to explain beginners how to align a ship with an entrance hole as it is the most difficult part considering people overshoot and stations are rotating. Especially when you cannot see it at all. Docking is much easier than entering a station as long as you use all ship movements along with a vertical control. You really need to improve all training sessions here and in the game. I can imagine how many people just have given up on your game because they thought it is difficult. I am just a stubborn and I kept practising until I learnt(myself by the way with no help from you) how to find an entrance and dock. I do usually request docking after I get inside. I guess it is not going to work in a real game for some stations but at least for training it works.
I just got the game on Xbox One. There doesn't seem to be anyway to strafe with the controller, which makes docking fairly difficult. I only can yaw with the right stick. Is there something I'm missing?
If you mean to request docking you need to go into Contacts tab with pressing L1 on PS4 controller. And for basic training you can request docking after you enter a station. At least this way you will have plenty of time to dock. I do not think it will work inside a real game with most stations. They have challenging scenarios for training and there is docking one. the station in that scenario won't issue a grant for docking if you ask for it inside the station. I once tried and failed. Exited the station and requested again and they did not let me do it at all no matter how many times I asked. Decided to have fun with shooting at the station and they killed my ship in seconds. So next time I started that scenario I sent request before entering and it was granted.
I figured out docking in 30 mins. Its easy. What I cant do is hunt pirates because they're all going super cruise and I dont know how to knock them out of it or catch them
+Code Red Left click down on thumb stick changes right stick control from strafe to yaw... But learn to fight using roll and pitch... Roll to get them on center then pitch up or down...
I really wanted to get into it but there is definitely a learning curve and you need to grind to even get half decent at piloting so it's on the back burner for me.
Is it a good idea to buy a joystick for this game, or is mouse control pretty reasonable? Also, if I were going to get a joystick, can anyone suggest a good one? :D
If you like lifting your mouse over and over it's fine(imagine performing circles 20 or 30 times with a mouse, moving it upward or downward). By comparison, with an analog control, be it joystick or control pad, you simply hold it in a direction. That's the difference.... (and why i plugged in my ancient MS Sidewinder 2 - until i get a new one)..
+William Tiley *cough*R and F*cough* by the way, I found those by doing what you should do in every new video game: Press every button to see what it does.
In video games, if it blows you up: can always respawn. So no harm there. Real life, don't push all the buttons, get an adult or someone with a brain. Trust me, I learned this D:
Why tf don’t I get that menu to select the option to land? I get less than one meter from the ground and centered damn near perfectly and still nothing
Yea , I have to say this "tutorial" is not helpful at all . If you don't tell anyone what are the defaults then there really is not point to this video.
namingsway At around the 30 second mark, he says to check the controls section of the pause menu for bindings. The reason I suspect he doesn't mention specific keys is that there are SO MANY controls for this game that mentioning something as simple as UI controls isn't going to be as helpful as looking up the full control layout. Plus it gives you a chance to adjust the controls to your liking. I personally hate the defaults, so the first thing I did was change the control setup.
namingsway Actually, this video is meant to be watched before trying the docking-tutorial in game. In game it tells you all keybinds, even if they are not default.
I landed and it just keeps beeping after I landed, won't disenguage anything. Am I suppose to hit another button now? I just started the game in solo to get the hang of things. I don't understand why it won't bring my ship down. I thought I did everything the video told me too...
Yeah, turns out I landed backwards, though nothing I could ever recall said I couldn't land backwards. There's not exactly a lock mechanism that visually depicts you need to go down in a particular way and it's on a spinning mechanism for the landing pad anyway. Why they would demand a landing direction front or back just feels un expected. I'd understand it a bit more for the internal stations as you come in a certain way anyhow, but certainly not the starting station that's open and exposed. However we're talking about a game that's left out a lot of things in fine detail, among other things left out. Like the fact the training system from the launcher was apparently not updated since it's earliest of days. I found out I should've just used said training missions from the ACTUAL game launch. Another fine point I wasn't made privy too till after I spoke to another friend who learned it from another player. There are some things the game is a marvel in, and it indeed floats the imagination in wondrous ways when you get to traveling around, but there's a lot of things that deserve mentioning, and through expectation of such a tittle, should really be detailed. A better explanation including that landing is a direction specific venture being one of just the many that float un explained in detail. Granted they wanted the game to be a bit cumbersome in the ideal that you control all these various things, and many things can wind up in disaster, but I think if I kept trying to grind my belly on a pad in reverse, and that was simply not going to work, I think someone in the station would say something, or at least some kind of flight instructor in training would've made it very clear earlier on I was doing it wrong. The landing gear not being out was a warning I got only a much further down the line landing where it did promptly alert me, and I put the gear out and landed with no incident. I'm compelled to try more, but through my time I think I've found why so many people have so many hours logged on the game but still have the occasional yet signficant nay sayers view. There are things that blatantly should've been updated or dealt with, and still they moved out a new project half finished with not much to warrent it's existance, and even made people pay for some elements twice. Something that questionably thus further should be a lot cheaper in cost than it is. There is indeed that captivating factor as you look about space as you slowly drift over stations and slip in through nitches for docking, and the experience of dropping out of warp and seeing a ship come up to you blatantly checking you out like a random fish then moving on, says something for the AI as I found myself wondering if it would attack, hail, and then before I could communicate move on like the veteran space fairer it was meant to be. I even questioned if it was another player, but I was in a private group game with no one else on from what I could tell. But certainly there is the other factor. Many people have their STEAM client continue to count hours as the game has been closed, YES the LAUNCHER is also CLOSED, yet the game doesn't seem to be good at making the Steam client realize it's indeed shut down. As such until you restart steam, that clock is counting, and as such it thinks I've been playing it for 48 hours straight despite properly closing out the game and said launcher. And within that feels a kind of representation that's a little less than true. However I'm sure m any have indeed been playing the game a very long time because it is, it's captivating in it's own right, but much of those captivation come in the ideals of ventures to come, and what could be, and I hear many of those currently in the form of horizons has really not come to the level expected. Or perhaps they finally just had their fill of space without much new. Either way, I suspect I'll be playing again. But the learning curve will throw many off, and then it comes questionable how much of that learning curve was really necessary, and how much of it was warranted, and then if it really paid off. As such that question indeed has locked me in to find out more.
"it comes questionable how much of that learning curve was really necessary" Yup. It could've been flattened out greatly with minimum effort from the developers. It has one of the dodgiest tutorial systems I've ever come across.
The Sprawl Yeah, some of the stuff in the game is fun, but a lot of it needs better explaining, maybe even a bit more on how to be competent if they're really going to screw you on something as simple as which way you landed, yet not mention that mattered. Over all I'm just not sure the reward of the experience really stacks up to the effort. Maybe someone can show me more videos of things that really make the game all the more awesome and thus worth it, but I'm kinda not seeing it. I've moved on, but will keep an open mind given better evidence.
More difficult that it needs to be detracts from realism. I can't fathom of a control tower in their right mind allowing any hotshot pilot to MANUALLY land on a space station. I like the landing mechanic but it should purely be fore unassisted landings such as a planets surface. It greatly detracts from the actual enjoyment of the game.
Hi, can confirm this doesn't work as detailed here - I followed the steps, and even though I'm right on target (turns blue) and have landing gear deployed, ship just bounces of surface, taking damage,. Anyone know how to actually dock? OP Obviously forgot to mention something that I'm not doing right.
Okay, so I found the issue - what was missed in this tutorial is your ANGLE OF FACING matters - ridiculous I know, but you can only dock with the right facing: you should be seeing the ship's thrusters facing towards you when lining up the circle. Anything even slightly off this and you will just bounce of the surface, even if you are on target.
I'd love to enjoy this game, build a spaceship, travel, fight, blah, blah, but unfortunately my mind seems to collapse in on itself due to the conflicting controls. If only it wasn't a flight sim in space... It would be so much fun...
Sounds good, I now have complete faith in me not crashing into any starports when either docking or leaving. That´s exactly how it´s gonna go for me... yep.
Why does the starport menu (in the video at 4:17) never shows up for me??? Tutorial is good, but the difficulty is not so much with the flying than with the keys and options. I would have landed without the tutorial were it not for the protocol and right keys. In fact I did touchdown without looking at the tutorial, but had to come here to understand the protocol and am spending a lot more time looking for the right keys.
The reason is my ship was turned in the wrong direction of the pad... I hadn't noticed the ship is supposed to align with the "arrow", it is not so obvious at the outposts.
Ha!! And now compare this video to the "docking" in X Rebirth... "Request landing" - "Permission granted" - cutscene - you're in. :-/ Make of that what you will, but I find this game MUCH more immersive than X Rebirth.
I once pranked a friend who plays this game by rebinding the speed boost command to the button he usually uses for his landing gear. His Viper smashed into a wall inside of a space station, he died, and he lost 75,000 CR of bounty vouchers.
please read it again - i could not get the option TO dock at all i.e i couldnt get into the dock station let alone to land and dock. This error only existed in the training part, when i played a game it worked just fine.
ENAK Well the UI Focus pannel allow me for instance to only use one button on my controller + the hat in one of the 4 directions to select a specific pannel : left(target/navigation,missions) right(status/modules/firegroups/functions) up(communication) down(zoom on the scanner). Just have to Hold it, select the interface i want and stop holding it. If i just press it it brings me back to front view again.Instead of 4 buttons, 1 for each, and maybe 1 to get back to the front view. guess which one is more practical. Of course the other way is to use the head look, but it's not as efficient.
Actually it is better to have separate buttons. It is too much at first but later it becomes normal. You feel it natural because panels do very different things.
well i dont have enough buttons on my controller for that and that UIPFocus is really not a problem, you quickly get use to it, and it feels natural to me. i already know what's on the left pannel, right pannel or comm pannel. Once you're familiar with he UI you can do things very quickly. Now if you're using a computer well maybe yes you'd better use 1 key for each.
And here I thought manual landing in X3TC was complicated. Until I tried to land my small starting ship in this game, rammed the hangar door twice, missed the pad four times, got shot to pieces for loitering, and finally smashed my ship into the landing strut with a accidental boost. Good times :)
Playbahnosh Yea I'm having trouble in some places others I have no trouble. I think it might be my facing I'll try that. I had no trouble with the training docking this is like my 10th dock in game. Well just tried again logged out and retried and got it my first time, maybe it's a issue in game. Oh and I loved docking in x2.
@@exodore2000 do more than 20 times and it gets easier every time. Docking is easier for me than aligning with a station entrance that rotates. This rotation makes it harder.
@@ozstockman yea that rotation can be a killer. Have you tried docking in a damaged station? I've gotten better but still run into issues with larger or "wonky" ships.
@@exodore2000 I have decided not to play a real game until I can enter a station with my eyes almost closed. Docking I have mastered to some degree but entering is harder. I know it is going to be harder in real game so if you can do an easy one with no ships and debris I do not see any point to start playing. I am just practising when I have some free time. Since docking is easier for me now after doing it 20-30 times or more I just do that training for practising entering, them do a bit of combat training. I will get to the real game but so far I do not think I am ready.
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Just a note: In order to dock, the front of your ship must be facing the tower (the collection of buildings). If you're facing the angled retractable ramp, you're backwards and are not going to be able to dock.
Had to find out this tidbit on Reddit, after I overshot the pad and had to turn back to find it.
+TheRogueWolf Appreciate the info!!!
really usefull. thanks
+TheRogueWolf Omg thank you so much i used like 10 min plus trying to dock backwards
+TheRogueWolf Sure would be nice if the FUCKING TUTORIAL had mentioned that important fact.
I spent 40 minutes trying to fucking dock.
+MTD haha me too, it drove me crazy!
Tip for noobs: Don't retract landing gear until you have exited the station. This keeps your speed down and disables boost (as a misplaced boost will end your trip real quick)
Yeah, I thought that was bad advice given on the video. I've been playing for a long while now, and still keep my gear down until I get to the letterbox. It's far too easy to misjudge the gap and end up redecorating the station wall at high speed.
It's not much of an issue in a stock Sidey or mid-spec Cobra, but when you're looking at a multi-million credit insurance bill for your A-rated Asp, you tend to try to be a little more careful in docking areas.
Teknotion I use a flight stick (and soon I'll be using a X52 Pro) so accidental Surges are rare.
Teknotion Upward thrust(use x/z thrust to align), disable gear, keep reticle on center(use the upper and lower parts of the entrance to judge if you are center), crank on the throttle. I've been playing a week and i can nail coming into(and exiting) stations at max speed in the cobra. It's honestly not that hard with a bit of practice(just playing) and it'll be important for you to do this if you want to handle stolen or illegal goods, to avoid the scan you typically get on your way into a station.
PenguinActual
to be fair, the x52 is more likely to literally shock you than to read your inputs correctly
o My X55 on the other hand ;)
(uhh, no pun intended)
If you've ever jumped out of Supercruise at a station and found yourself at the wrong end, here's a handy tip.
Note the 3D graphic of the station on the bottom-left of your screen. It's not just for show. That graphic shows which way the station will be oriented (relative to you) when you jump out of Supercruise. So you want to jump out of Supercruise with the docking slot facing directly towards you. When you approach the station in Supercruise, instead of heading directly for it, approach it off-center until the station is rotated around so the docking slot is aimed at your ship.
For example, if the docking slot on the station is currently facing right, then start passing the station on the right until the last moment. Then when you swing around to face it, the docking slot will be directly ahead.
The human race invents space travel, builds a space station the size of a small planet, makes airlock entrance for large space ships the size of a letter box.
LOL! i know, right?
Size of a small planet? Hardly.
Geez, tough crowd.
Why make the entrance any bigger than it needs to be? If you can't fly then buy a docking computer.
They made it large enough to fit the largest ship that should dock in that way, larger ships use a different docking method, the standard docking platforms can't support ships any bigger.
I don't know why you had to make docking some goddamn difficult.
I agree, so fucking ridiculous, especially on the Xbox.
You can always play to No Man Sky.
but no mans sky is garbage
It´s a Simulation, so...
I personally don´t mind,but I can see why many people aren´t a fan of this system
Then buy an Auto-dock assistant.
When docking at the big stations, the audio cues from the station's traffic controller can help you pinpoint the location of your landing pad before you get inside. If he says, "3,000 meters from touchdown" just as you're passing through the gate, your landing pad is at the back wall of the station.
Docking, the bane of my Elite existence since the 1980's ;-).
Docking wasn't an issue in 1982. It is now!
Holy space balls this game is hard!
+ChrizoPrime LOL, I could not have said better myself :D
Good fun, though :-) LOVE IT!!!
Too damn hard. I'd never recommend this to anyone. I'd quit if I had not of wasted $60 bucks on it XBox
Its supposed to be a simulation you know, of course it's gonna be hard, have you ever tried to park a car in a tight spot? what about a truck or a bus?
Yes and it's a hell of a lot easier than this
@@Kakaw3t A school bus is easier to reverse offset alley than these ships are to dock.
I appreciate this is essentially a hardcore sim, and someone like me, who's never played a PC flying/sailing/yodelling/whatever simulation, is going to find it a steep climb to acclimatise, esp. since I'm playing the XB version which has less attention paid to it...neverthfuckingless, I have never played anything, in my twenty-seven year history of videogaming, that is anywhere near as obtuse as Elite on XB. I expected, and am fine with, complex, demanding, etc. - that's what I wanted TBH. What I'm NOT so fine with is when entire, crucial game mechanics and control systems go completely unmentioned even in the training sections. I really shouldn't have to trawl YT just in order to find out how to ask for permission to dock for example...the training mission asks you to do it but then can't be bothered to tell you how to! How much effort would it take to consistently display the controls on screen?
I could go on, as there are a lot more examples of this throughout - I've barely left the training missions(the bits that are meant to SHOW YOU HOW TO PLAY) and I've had to go quite deep online to finish more than one of them.
Don't get me wrong...everything I've done with my ship has been absolutely exhilarating; the game just feels right; but when you have to watch a tutorial in order to complete a tutorial I think it's fair to say that the devs haven't done enough(in fact they haven't even done the bare minimum) to help acclimatise newcomers to the game's mechanics. It's been years since E:D was released, and it's had a lot of iterative love and attention to dramatically broaden its horizons, but it remains almost intentionally opaque to newcomers. Considering how satisfying it is to actually play, and how many newbs are thirsting for a game like this(eg. see the hype surrounding NMS), it seems crazy to make it so inaccessible.
I'm use to playing simulators, I played MSFS for decades, until they stopped making them. Learning to play this game is like trying to figure out how to fly a plane with no flight manual or instructions. The tutorials are about as useful as calling AT&T for customer service. They mention a few keybinds to help you in some instances, but outside of that they don't tell you squat, for instance. I absolutely could not figure out how to make a docking request. I banged around on the keyboard until eventually the menu popped up on the side, then I banged around even more until I figured out how to change menu tabs, then I bumbled around on the keyboard more to try and figure out how to actually select the contact to dock, but then there was no contact options. I banged half of the keys on my keyboard and nothing.
Whoever came up with the training portion in this game has the intuition of a rock. If I was going to develop a complex system I would damn sure find a way to communicate how it all works in exact detail, not leave people hanging on little to nothing. Very disappointed with this game and I haven't even gotten to the main part of it.
Nora Dee It tells you in the video how to make a docking request. Maybe you missed that bit.
regardless If you missed the instruction or not it should not be so complicated. There should be a running history of every prompt but there isn't. And I've noticed if you don't do everything specifically in (other than actual docking) an arbitrary set amount of time they don't tell you about and if you miss it you've broke the game and have to restart the training.
This was 5 years ago!?!?! I just got the game and have the same problem. ACtually I just comepletly QUIT the tutorial because the drone i was supposed to shoot insisted on flying right next to the "border" of the tutorial. So every time i got close my ship was taken over and i was reset. My question is why are all the basics largely SKIPPED. "You have wokn up in a strange spaceship... fly it and destroy some stuff. Oh dont worry about those screens do it on your own time" basically.
@@basemintsincorporated7746 You have encapsulated, in one comment, why I haven't touched Elite in the last five years.
This game is made out of pure atmosphere...
2000gmod HAHAHAHA
2000gmod lol now THAT'S a clever joke! :D
2000gmod
Im glad someone got it! =D
Kid574
Thanks!
*****
What has that got to do with anything?
LupusInCaligo He's just crying because he can't afford the game...
Slow and steady wins the race. You don't get prizes for artistic flair.
Boosting through the letterbox at 450+ Km/s is down-right stupid and dangerous... and also a hell of a lot of fun!!
This is freaking amazing in VR.
Oh yeah. Sadly i sold my VR systemto wait for the next better generation. Should have waited a while..
Can't believe how the video guy completely ignored the Red and Green lights telling you which side to exit, bad Commander! XD - good thing nothing was coming the other way! haha
I can't believe people that don't know that the red and green lights are meant to mean Port and Starboard or left and right like they are on ships, and air planes and runways and stuff in real life. Not go and stop.
Andrew Hall
I can't believe anyone bothers to look, i just look for an opening an fly at it full speed. Not yet hit anyone.. maybe other peeps just enter more active ports than i do, traffic has never been an issue.
such an attractive game.. with so much work involved!
I have seen clearer mud than these tutorials.
AMEN
Yo all I need to know is the fookin button to push to get my landing gear out and Not only can I not find it in game settings but this man says "now press the button you have bound for retracting your landing gear" like, he really couldn't just list the default button real quick
I invested in a docking computer... made my life MUCH easier, especially with these rotating stations. :D
What you did under 5 minutes took me over an hour and then I gave up. My ship banged around like a pinball on 3 separate occasions.
That awkward moment you try to dock at someone else's station and get a 600 bounty
This game is very immersive! Although I have to say, blowing out a ship for blocking the entrance doesn't really make things better, now instead of a single, solid ship, you're going to have many debris floating wildly in and around the entrance, even inside the docks. XD
"Oops, should've just towed and impound that ship"
Landing and manouvering inside the station with flight assist disabled is fun. Took me some time to learn.
Never crashed on landing/docking so far after 200+ hrs of flying. But I remember once I entered a starport with the flight assist (or the gravitational rotation assist) off. Oh boy, that was fun. :)
Much more helpful than the useless bint in the training exercises!
I got really frustrated- I got into the docking bay fine, but once it came to land on the circle, my ship would no longer let me maneuver on a horizontal axis and wouldn't let me land.
Is there a way to bind vertical and horizontal thrusters to a gradient input, or can they only be used at full strength?
I need to buy a HOTAS to play this game. Just bought it and the keyboard is killing me. Your absolutely thrown in to figure out the controls.
Thanks so much. I'm using PS4 PRO with TM HOTAS but could not scroll the left menu to ask for docking permission, the light bar would only scroll the bottom of the menu but refused to go to the top for the docking requests. I'll try it with the Dualshock PS4 controller and see how that goes but i really love to use my HOTAS for obvious reasons. Thanks for your video and happy flying.
Impressive, such a smart game. Apart from my rocketship's landing gear does not respond. I have tried to re-programme the key on my Saitek X52 Pro, but to no avail. If the landing gear has been damaged, wouldn't there be some kind of warning light in the cockpit?
These instructional videos are completely useless. It might as well have said, exit the dock since it didn't tell any of the control keys.
+Barry Williams The control key wasn't set by default. I haven't played the game since the day I wasted 2 hours trying to learn how to dock. It looks fun, but I don't have the patience to get through whatever that is they are calling tutorials. Before I turned it off, I blew up twice without realizing that the direction you face when docking mattered, as if turning your ship can't be done after liftoff. Whoever programmed that should at least try observing a marina once, at least once.
Why does this video have 3 quarters of a million views. It makes no sense to me.
well about 100,000 people kept rewatching it in shock that it didn't help them at all far as I can tell@@CraigStCyrPlus
Good information, but the distance you must be within to request docking in now 7.5km not 7. Also, keep your speed up exiting the airlock as well as entering or you will get a reprimand. They layout of the docking request screen has changed a bit, making it simpler. To be sure you are docking in the right direction, look at your ship hologram - it should show your ship facing away, not toward you.
Is there any button you have to push to land?
Or do I have to fly right above it for like 5 seconds?
If you get a luxury passenger ship, like the Dolphin / Orca / Beluga, you should definitely get the auto-dock computer. It's nice to let the ship do all the work of docking for once, especially on high-gravity planets or Outpost stations with weird landing pad layouts.
"Use NOT BOUND to launch!" LOL
The vague tutorials on this game are making it a hard one to learn.
I say it has something to do with what he is drinking!
+Erin “Rinley” Lewis Vague in the way no mention is made of which button controls what etc..
I was just saying that the in game tutorials sucked. This video was helpful.
Been too busy playing the game. At elast I can dock now.
In Freelancer I could press 'F3' and it was done... I didn't have to agonize for 30 minutes around a station then finally relent and watch a 4 1/2 minute tutorial on it..
You can also just get a docking computer, which most ships past the starter one (which this is) has room for.
You can also play a FPS with auto-aim or no distinct hitboxes. Some games want to make you feel like a pilot. Others can be played with a NES controller.
Then keep playing Freelancer. Period. There's a vast number of players who don't like stupidly pressing an ominous key and have the game playing it by itself while you're watching it. That's not playing a game to me. That's training a monkey to press a single key to get a reward.
@@chibibuu There is no docking computer with a basic ship for beginners training so your point is not relevant. And even if there was the fun is in playing by controlling it not to let a computer do everything for you.
3:25 I'm playing since the beta 2 and I never noticed that the compass is indicating the landing pad location :o
Thanks for the tips
Docking is the most frustrating video game experiences of my life
once you're in the menu on the left how do you move to the 'contacts' menu? I'm playing on a keyboard but I don't know how to navigate menus
does it matter which direction your ship is facing when making touch down?
Yes, in the hologram on your landing guide there are arrows showing the direction u must face to land
I'm right above the assigned landing pad but I cant deploy my landing gear by pressing L as my default button, remapping it also doesn't work so I can't land :(
When I return to surface the training guide says to select "launch". I use the space bar to select launch, but then the menu disappears as it should, but I do not have control over the engines. In fact, I just get told to select launch again. But I can not get the central menu back to try again. The throttle is definitely set to idle.. what am I doing wrong?
Ok I'm going to need to buy a joystick. After reconfiguring the keyboard and mouse controls. I changed the X axis on the mouse to yaw instead of pitch and made so the mouse controlled the ships rotation : Left mouse button pitch left right mouse button pitch right, mouse wheel forward pitch forward mouse backward pitch backward. Then I made so the arrow keys control the maneuvering thrusters. I kept the "W" and "S" the same for speeding up and slowing down and kept the "X" as the break. I changed the "Caps lock" for forward and "Left shift" for reverse.
Now instead of crashing into the station or my docking permit timing out trying to maneuver into the entrance of the space station I finally managed to dock, but my Sidewinder will need a new paint job.
Yeah, I mean that make sense. It seems very engaging and realistic. The thing I would stress out over the most would be getting through the airlock in a large ship. Just in this video alone I felt super anxious when it seemed like the pilot was really close to the top as he re-entered the station.
Like driving different size cars, you get a feel or bearing for the size and when you fit and don't fit, and how close you can get based on your view point. I get prox warnings constantly, not scraped anything in a while though, just gotta get a feel for your spacecraft.. ;)
Hello 2 everybody. Just bought the game a few days ago for PS4. Testing the tutorials. One question, when I leave a station you've got to pull up the landing gear (circle+down arrow) but when I try to dock, seems I can not pull down the landing gear. What I'm doing wrong ? Thanks in advance.
Do those Red Green exit lights mean anything? In flight sims, whether for landing or in-flight refuelling, they were used to aid the pilots alignment or landing glide path. I noticed the red one was flashing in this video.
+Jeorney red should be to your left and green to your right, it's just so you know your orientation. If green is on your left then the nice advertising boards are upside down :D
It's my first time playing elite dangerous and even docking on the star port is tough. I even forgot the key for landing gear on pc
made me instantly think about the docking scene in Interstellar when he side you had to match the rotation of the entrance xDD
SUPER HELPFUL THX :D
When landing on planet is possible, make also a video of the docking
im trying to dock at bakers prospect. my landing gear is out and i requested to land before hand but once im on the landing pad theres no option to dock. is this a bug?
never mind. i was just facing the wrong way XD
Game is renown for very hard learning curve. (Message for non-simulator fans) expect to invest at least 50+ hours in this game just to learn the basics, after which you will get constantly pwned by high skilled veterans because they removed the single player.
I agree a 50 hour learning curve. Insanity. WTF were they thinking.
You forgot to mention that the side with the green light is an indication that no ships are traveling through that side coming the opposite way (so coming in while you're on the way out, etc).
I've been playing for years and i NEVER noticed that the compass pointed to you'r landing pad
just another point on the video, isn't it 7.5km to request docking and not the stated 7km? aside from that, great video, I actually learned something even though i've been playing since beta, didn't know the compass points to the pad which is useful for when the pad is right near the slot and i miss it. thanks!
Yeah it is 7.5km was wondering about that too.
The most difficult and frustrating game I have ever had the displeasure to waste my money on. Docking, using a mouse and keyboard is pretty much impossible as is combat. Don't Bother unless you are interested in spending days trying to perfect your motor skills to that of an elite gamer.
Not to be a killjoy, but how's come when you leave the dock, the stars aren't rotating but when you return the starport is spinning?
I don't think I've botched one landing yet, or at least I haven't slammed into the pad full speed and exploded. I just take it slow and it's not too bad. Though I'm usually facing the wrong way half the time
The way he landed isn't necessary. Just line up with the landing pad and land it like an airplane. Landing gear down, approach landing pad, line up with markers, throttle down and skid until you are lined up. Very minor damage to shields and faster to land.
This is a game? or a space polit training program!
This game is meant to be tactical and precise. It is meant to be "hard." People wanted a game that made them feel like they were actually flying a spaceship. I've only been playing the past hour and been having the time of my life figuring out how to fly, dock, launch, and travel. It's because it's so intricate that make's it so COOL. I could easily just space out for hours with just the beginning missions because it's so immersive. You guys just don't want to appreciate what's been given to you.
+Sean Paul Thunderpants back when i played tachyon: the fringe i dreamed of playing like this, of course i want to be able to be fined for fucking up, dude. This is such an amazing experience, docking feels so magical... i mean, fictional. i dont know. damn ... this game. im in pure love with it
I do. I'd just like it if the game showed you how to.
I completely agree with most of what you've written - I've no problem w/ 'hard' or 'complex'(this is a game about flying a spaceship after all). What I do have a problem with is when entire gameplay mechanics and the controls required to use them are left out of the game's help and tutorial systems.
Small example - nowhere in the game does it tell you how to request docking permission. Not even in the official tutorial video online. So I had to watch one redundant online tutorial vid and then trawl a few message boards before I could even get partway through a TUTORIAL mission. That's not 'complex', or 'demanding' - that's laziness on Frontier's part, and it's inexplicable when the rest of the game is so exquisitely designed.
To reiterate - I certainly don't want the game to be less complex...I could've bought NMS a few days ago but the simplicity of the mechanics seemed offputting. Instead I bought the XB version of E:D, as I'd had an eye on it for a long time anyway(I was waiting for the Horizons expansion). This is my kind of game. But there's nothing stopping Frontier from making it much less pointlessly inaccessible, nor is there anything admirable in forcing a new player to repeatedly google the controls just so that they can complete a fucking tutorial. Perhaps this is more of a problem for the XB version, IDK, but either way there's no excuse.
Compared to the original Elite.... it's positively easy IMO.... though buying an auto-dock program at earliest opportunity makes it so much more pleasant :)
Sean Paul Thunderpants An can agree whilst I did find it a bit tricky to understand I soon found an entire galaxy at my finger tips filled with enemies and trade. with the horizons pack I also have an even bigger adventure.
pitch+roll doesn't feel like you're really flying a spaceship tho. pitch+yaw would
Thanks.
How do a select contacts?
I am having so much trouble finding the controls for a lot of things.... (Keyboard +Mouse)
So how do i use the navigation? i found how to get in there, but can't find how to select "contacts" or anything other then the Navigation tab ... Cant' dock .... Help! please!
OK i just found out it's Q and R, Thank you! geez :P
If it is an official training it sucks. You need to explain beginners how to align a ship with an entrance hole as it is the most difficult part considering people overshoot and stations are rotating. Especially when you cannot see it at all. Docking is much easier than entering a station as long as you use all ship movements along with a vertical control. You really need to improve all training sessions here and in the game. I can imagine how many people just have given up on your game because they thought it is difficult. I am just a stubborn and I kept practising until I learnt(myself by the way with no help from you) how to find an entrance and dock. I do usually request docking after I get inside. I guess it is not going to work in a real game for some stations but at least for training it works.
1:33 try going round the station at the back then try docking, its not that easy is it.
I just got the game on Xbox One. There doesn't seem to be anyway to strafe with the controller, which makes docking fairly difficult. I only can yaw with the right stick. Is there something I'm missing?
Deez Nuts Meant to get back to you much earlier. Thanks man! I got it all sorted out thanks to you =)
The joystick is not possible to set the zero velocity. The ship flies forward all the time! It is impossible to land!
What key do you press to move the tab???
+Company007 Q and E
If you mean to request docking you need to go into Contacts tab with pressing L1 on PS4 controller. And for basic training you can request docking after you enter a station. At least this way you will have plenty of time to dock. I do not think it will work inside a real game with most stations. They have challenging scenarios for training and there is docking one. the station in that scenario won't issue a grant for docking if you ask for it inside the station. I once tried and failed. Exited the station and requested again and they did not let me do it at all no matter how many times I asked. Decided to have fun with shooting at the station and they killed my ship in seconds. So next time I started that scenario I sent request before entering and it was granted.
Why when I go to the left side screen can I not go to contacts? I am stuck navigation. I can't figure out why. Please help
Thanks
When i go to contacts there isnt an option to request docking its says out of range and i am in the range of 7 km
No i had my sensor deactivated lol am such an dumb ass
I figured out docking in 30 mins. Its easy. What I cant do is hunt pirates because they're all going super cruise and I dont know how to knock them out of it or catch them
I fear to fall in love with this game ...
this tutorials are far better than the ones inside the game lol
Did he speed?
Is there a way to move on a horizontal plane? I'm playing on the Xbox one and having a hard time with it.
+Code Red Left click down on thumb stick changes right stick control from strafe to yaw... But learn to fight using roll and pitch... Roll to get them on center then pitch up or down...
It's a nightmare and a triple nightmare on the Xbox One.
I really wanted to get into it but there is definitely a learning curve and you need to grind to even get half decent at piloting so it's on the back burner for me.
So I'm trying to land in a station that spins... it's like chasing a butterfly while riding hamster wheel inside a rotating airplane
Go directly in front of the entrance then spin your ship to match the spin of the station.
I had rotational correction turned off
you sell the game in different languages but the tutorials are only in englisch. Make subtitels in outher languages pls
Is it a good idea to buy a joystick for this game, or is mouse control pretty reasonable? Also, if I were going to get a joystick, can anyone suggest a good one? :D
If you like lifting your mouse over and over it's fine(imagine performing circles 20 or 30 times with a mouse, moving it upward or downward). By comparison, with an analog control, be it joystick or control pad, you simply hold it in a direction. That's the difference.... (and why i plugged in my ancient MS Sidewinder 2 - until i get a new one)..
CatAtomic99 I play with an off brand wired Xbox 360 controller. It's cheap, it works great, and it's easy to travel with.
'... is a criminal offense'. Blimey, I'll have to try the next course: ED Potty Training. I wonder what criminal offense I'll be doing in that one!
Well, toxic waste is banned in many systems.
I wonder when we will actually be able to have ships in outer space
rockets and space shuttles dont count
I liked the launch on the Spectrum version - this is kinda complicated.
Sarah Cartwright Launching is easy, docking is a pain.
+Tomas Corvidea There isn't even a key for vertical thrust.
+William Tiley *cough*R and F*cough* by the way, I found those by doing what you should do in every new video game: Press every button to see what it does.
Arcaneraven It was hard to find at first on the control menu, at least.
But yeah, I could have "tested" all the buttons, I suppose...
In video games, if it blows you up: can always respawn. So no harm there.
Real life, don't push all the buttons, get an adult or someone with a brain. Trust me, I learned this D:
Why tf don’t I get that menu to select the option to land? I get less than one meter from the ground and centered damn near perfectly and still nothing
Whenever I lock a station and go to it I can't see it
Yea , I have to say this "tutorial" is not helpful at all . If you don't tell anyone what are the defaults then there really is not point to this video.
LieutenantVague You are missing the point to a tutorial . But I wont bother to explain any further as it is a waste of time .
LieutenantVague The tutorial vaguely gives you knowledge on the default keys. This is why people are having problems to do simple things like dock.
Sadly not everyone is a tryhard no life kid that obviously knows every single default key of a new game.
namingsway At around the 30 second mark, he says to check the controls section of the pause menu for bindings. The reason I suspect he doesn't mention specific keys is that there are SO MANY controls for this game that mentioning something as simple as UI controls isn't going to be as helpful as looking up the full control layout. Plus it gives you a chance to adjust the controls to your liking. I personally hate the defaults, so the first thing I did was change the control setup.
namingsway Actually, this video is meant to be watched before trying the docking-tutorial in game. In game it tells you all keybinds, even if they are not default.
I landed and it just keeps beeping after I landed, won't disenguage anything. Am I suppose to hit another button now? I just started the game in solo to get the hang of things. I don't understand why it won't bring my ship down. I thought I did everything the video told me too...
Yeah, turns out I landed backwards, though nothing I could ever recall said I couldn't land backwards. There's not exactly a lock mechanism that visually depicts you need to go down in a particular way and it's on a spinning mechanism for the landing pad anyway. Why they would demand a landing direction front or back just feels un expected. I'd understand it a bit more for the internal stations as you come in a certain way anyhow, but certainly not the starting station that's open and exposed.
However we're talking about a game that's left out a lot of things in fine detail, among other things left out. Like the fact the training system from the launcher was apparently not updated since it's earliest of days. I found out I should've just used said training missions from the ACTUAL game launch. Another fine point I wasn't made privy too till after I spoke to another friend who learned it from another player.
There are some things the game is a marvel in, and it indeed floats the imagination in wondrous ways when you get to traveling around, but there's a lot of things that deserve mentioning, and through expectation of such a tittle, should really be detailed. A better explanation including that landing is a direction specific venture being one of just the many that float un explained in detail. Granted they wanted the game to be a bit cumbersome in the ideal that you control all these various things, and many things can wind up in disaster, but I think if I kept trying to grind my belly on a pad in reverse, and that was simply not going to work, I think someone in the station would say something, or at least some kind of flight instructor in training would've made it very clear earlier on I was doing it wrong.
The landing gear not being out was a warning I got only a much further down the line landing where it did promptly alert me, and I put the gear out and landed with no incident.
I'm compelled to try more, but through my time I think I've found why so many people have so many hours logged on the game but still have the occasional yet signficant nay sayers view.
There are things that blatantly should've been updated or dealt with, and still they moved out a new project half finished with not much to warrent it's existance, and even made people pay for some elements twice. Something that questionably thus further should be a lot cheaper in cost than it is. There is indeed that captivating factor as you look about space as you slowly drift over stations and slip in through nitches for docking, and the experience of dropping out of warp and seeing a ship come up to you blatantly checking you out like a random fish then moving on, says something for the AI as I found myself wondering if it would attack, hail, and then before I could communicate move on like the veteran space fairer it was meant to be. I even questioned if it was another player, but I was in a private group game with no one else on from what I could tell.
But certainly there is the other factor. Many people have their STEAM client continue to count hours as the game has been closed, YES the LAUNCHER is also CLOSED, yet the game doesn't seem to be good at making the Steam client realize it's indeed shut down. As such until you restart steam, that clock is counting, and as such it thinks I've been playing it for 48 hours straight despite properly closing out the game and said launcher. And within that feels a kind of representation that's a little less than true. However I'm sure m any have indeed been playing the game a very long time because it is, it's captivating in it's own right, but much of those captivation come in the ideals of ventures to come, and what could be, and I hear many of those currently in the form of horizons has really not come to the level expected. Or perhaps they finally just had their fill of space without much new.
Either way, I suspect I'll be playing again. But the learning curve will throw many off, and then it comes questionable how much of that learning curve was really necessary, and how much of it was warranted, and then if it really paid off. As such that question indeed has locked me in to find out more.
"it comes questionable how much of that learning curve was really necessary"
Yup. It could've been flattened out greatly with minimum effort from the developers. It has one of the dodgiest tutorial systems I've ever come across.
The Sprawl Yeah, some of the stuff in the game is fun, but a lot of it needs better explaining, maybe even a bit more on how to be competent if they're really going to screw you on something as simple as which way you landed, yet not mention that mattered.
Over all I'm just not sure the reward of the experience really stacks up to the effort. Maybe someone can show me more videos of things that really make the game all the more awesome and thus worth it, but I'm kinda not seeing it.
I've moved on, but will keep an open mind given better evidence.
More difficult that it needs to be detracts from realism. I can't fathom of a control tower in their right mind allowing any hotshot pilot to MANUALLY land on a space station. I like the landing mechanic but it should purely be fore unassisted landings such as a planets surface. It greatly detracts from the actual enjoyment of the game.
Hi, can confirm this doesn't work as detailed here - I followed the steps, and even though I'm right on target (turns blue) and have landing gear deployed, ship just bounces of surface, taking damage,. Anyone know how to actually dock? OP Obviously forgot to mention something that I'm not doing right.
Okay, so I found the issue - what was missed in this tutorial is your ANGLE OF FACING matters - ridiculous I know, but you can only dock with the right facing: you should be seeing the ship's thrusters facing towards you when lining up the circle. Anything even slightly off this and you will just bounce of the surface, even if you are on target.
Why is this feature in the game?
I'd love to enjoy this game, build a spaceship, travel, fight, blah, blah, but unfortunately my mind seems to collapse in on itself due to the conflicting controls.
If only it wasn't a flight sim in space...
It would be so much fun...
Sounds good, I now have complete faith in me not crashing into any starports when either docking or leaving. That´s exactly how it´s gonna go for me... yep.
Why does the starport menu (in the video at 4:17) never shows up for me???
Tutorial is good, but the difficulty is not so much with the flying than with the keys and options. I would have landed without the tutorial were it not for the protocol and right keys. In fact I did touchdown without looking at the tutorial, but had to come here to understand the protocol and am spending a lot more time looking for the right keys.
The reason is my ship was turned in the wrong direction of the pad... I hadn't noticed the ship is supposed to align with the "arrow", it is not so obvious at the outposts.
How do I fix that
Ha!! And now compare this video to the "docking" in X Rebirth... "Request landing" - "Permission granted" - cutscene - you're in. :-/ Make of that what you will, but I find this game MUCH more immersive than X Rebirth.
This will keep me full until star citizen comes out in late 2016
Lol
4:33 no amount of training can help you on entering station and landing pad, even if you do it 100 time.
I once pranked a friend who plays this game by rebinding the speed boost command to the button he usually uses for his landing gear. His Viper smashed into a wall inside of a space station, he died, and he lost 75,000 CR of bounty vouchers.
i still dont get it
The worst part of docking is accidentally boosting when you meant to deploy the landing gear.
this dont work? i cant get the option to dock to come up and yes i have tried moving around/ away/ closer ECT. WTF?
please read it again - i could not get the option TO dock at all i.e i couldnt get into the dock station let alone to land and dock. This error only existed in the training part, when i played a game it worked just fine.
+John Daniels Oddly that doesn't work for me... maybe because I'm using a 360 controller. I have to get to the menus through the controller.
Seems there's a lot of "press a key for UI focus, press a key for left panel"... Why not just have a single key press for left and right panels?
You can set a button for it
You can also just look at the panel. No need for focus buttons.
ENAK Well the UI Focus pannel allow me for instance to only use one button on my controller + the hat in one of the 4 directions to select a specific pannel : left(target/navigation,missions) right(status/modules/firegroups/functions) up(communication) down(zoom on the scanner). Just have to Hold it, select the interface i want and stop holding it. If i just press it it brings me back to front view again.Instead of 4 buttons, 1 for each, and maybe 1 to get back to the front view. guess which one is more practical.
Of course the other way is to use the head look, but it's not as efficient.
Actually it is better to have separate buttons. It is too much at first but later it becomes normal. You feel it natural because panels do very different things.
well i dont have enough buttons on my controller for that and that UIPFocus is really not a problem, you quickly get use to it, and it feels natural to me. i already know what's on the left pannel, right pannel or comm pannel. Once you're familiar with he UI you can do things very quickly. Now if you're using a computer well maybe yes you'd better use 1 key for each.