Billy the Kid's Waco - Siege & Arson in 1878

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    In what became known as "The Battle For Lincoln", Billy the Kid and the Regulators, along with Alex McSween and his family, held their own defending Lincoln and the McSween home from Sheriff Peppin, his law enforcement and even the US Military.
    This became the final show down, but not yet the end of the Lincoln County War, ending in a final desperate escape from a burning home which was set a blaze by Sheriff Peppin's men.

Komentáře • 417

  • @greyhoundTex
    @greyhoundTex Před 2 lety +264

    900 yard kill shot without a scope. Absolute legend.

    • @oregonoutback7779
      @oregonoutback7779 Před 2 lety +21

      Right up there with the Adobe Walls shot, for sure.

    • @PhycoKrusk
      @PhycoKrusk Před 2 lety +5

      @cas curse Depends on the size of the pie, but if you're talking like, normal non-Texas sizes, right around 3,600 apple pies

    • @beargillium2369
      @beargillium2369 Před 2 lety +4

      @JAMES SMITH volley fire out to 2300 yards was not unheard of, 900 might not seem so crazy if you're used to that sort of range. We all grew up with tv screens a few feet in front of our faces and our vision as a species has suffered terribly.

    • @zachv1942
      @zachv1942 Před rokem +1

      ​@@beargillium2369volley fire that far hasn't been recorded. Or at least recorded in active confrontation.

    • @HaNsWiDjAjA
      @HaNsWiDjAjA Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@zachv1942 At the battle of Omdurman in 1898 the British infantry opened their volley fire at 2,000 yards against the Mahdists, using Lee Metford rifles.

  • @LunchboxTheMagnficen
    @LunchboxTheMagnficen Před 2 lety +275

    I realize these old west videos don't get the numbers your other ones do, but they are easily my favorite

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  Před 2 lety +59

      Sure do not! Thank you!

    • @dustywillis79
      @dustywillis79 Před 2 lety +5

      Agreed without a doubt!

    • @AngryNegativeHistoryProject
      @AngryNegativeHistoryProject Před 2 lety +3

      This dude did a great elaborate historic description on location. To fucking rad. Great job

    • @kenlandrover
      @kenlandrover Před 2 lety +1

      Same here. I love Old West Vignettes. I was even looking at old ones the other day and this being Nine months old only just popped up. Damn Santa CZcams Fe Ring!

    • @beargillium2369
      @beargillium2369 Před 2 lety +1

      Hopefully in the end they'll get more views than any of the other more current stuff, since history is always fascinating

  • @Howjadoo22
    @Howjadoo22 Před 2 lety +347

    InRangeTV: Come for the rad firearms content, stay for the equally rad historical content.

    • @DeHerg
      @DeHerg Před 2 lety +5

      Honestly the historical content was what hooked me to this channel.

  • @mkfreel
    @mkfreel Před 2 lety +173

    I liked the maps as a reference for the scale and geography of the area. Really helps me visualize the events without being there.

  • @mkultraification
    @mkultraification Před 2 lety +107

    As the old saying goes, "Nothin' new under the sun." That includes government tactics.

  • @hangonsnoop
    @hangonsnoop Před 2 lety +125

    I have always appreciated the historical vignettes.

  • @coldandaloof7166
    @coldandaloof7166 Před 2 lety +182

    I love these stories of people, places and events that did not quite make it into the history books or to the books and movies of the west. Thank you for keeping the real history of the west alive by passing it on.

    • @bengriggs1344
      @bengriggs1344 Před 2 lety +1

      Have you ever seen Young Guns? It's not a documentary, but this story is a central part of that movie. But, I guess this story was never told.

    • @ufc990
      @ufc990 Před 2 lety +1

      @@peterclarke7240 Seriously lol. This is Billy the fucking kid, he made it into the books and the damn movies lol.

  • @oldhillbillybuckkowalski
    @oldhillbillybuckkowalski Před 2 lety +46

    "Territorial New Mexico was a very corrupt place " The more things change, the more they stay the same.

  • @andrewprice1774
    @andrewprice1774 Před 2 lety +68

    And yet the government just can't fathom why the public doesn't trust them

    • @stroads.
      @stroads. Před 2 lety +16

      ...that's not true at all. They just don't give af

    • @Vivi2372
      @Vivi2372 Před 2 lety +2

      To be fair a lot of Americans, especially in the conservative half, just can't be trusted to begin with.
      You get the politicians you run and end up voting for. No surprise that when half the country now denies science and reality at every turn and don't care about the well-being of others you end up with shit government. 🤷‍♀️

    • @jessebianchi2631
      @jessebianchi2631 Před 2 lety +4

      @@stroads. slight differences between the two parties. dems (neolibs) might not give af but repubs (neocons) give a fu.
      progressives, on the other hand DO give af for all of us, even the people who hate them.
      sad but true.

    • @boydanderson8682
      @boydanderson8682 Před 2 lety

      If the people didn't trust the government, we wouldn't have elected marxists into the White House.

    • @cristerofoo9690
      @cristerofoo9690 Před rokem

      @@jessebianchi2631 yes that's why they have such a hard on for gun grabbing while we have a "YT supremacist government" lmao

  • @rlborger
    @rlborger Před 2 lety +37

    I sit in Ruidoso, NM as I write this. I have been visiting Lincoln every summer for over 20 years. The town of Lincoln still persists in two factions telling two stories of the Lincoln County War. Most seem to support Tunstall/McSween and the Regulators but there is a restaurant run by members of the Dolan Clan who will argue their side. And it is unfortunate that local LE have a display in the Lincoln County court house which is biased against the Regulators. I encourage all who can to visit and learn first hand the stories of the Lincoln County War.

    • @ikearramba1886
      @ikearramba1886 Před 2 lety +1

      its unfortunate that most people think current lincoln county was lincoln county in 1879. Back then i believe it covered a big part of otero, chaves, eddy, and some de baca county. 7 rivers warriors.

  • @aidanfarnan4683
    @aidanfarnan4683 Před 2 lety +52

    I love these old west vignettes.
    Also, can we just take a moment to respect a 900 yard shot with a buffalo rifle.

    • @johnmccallum8512
      @johnmccallum8512 Před 2 lety +7

      I doubt that there are many people today that could make that shot even with a modern rifle and ammunition. Without a scope that is.

  • @michaelcenkere7900
    @michaelcenkere7900 Před 2 lety +25

    That was the best western vignette so far. Good job Karl.

  • @chrisball3778
    @chrisball3778 Před 2 lety +88

    I love these Old West videos. Presenting the stories without the mythologised elements actually humanises them and makes the lives of the people involved seem all the more remarkable. They're not black and white hats any more, but flawed human beings struggling to survive in absolutely insane circumstances. Susan MacSween must have been hard as nails.

    • @MGood-ij1hi
      @MGood-ij1hi Před 2 lety +4

      Sadly, most people concentrate on the clothing and technology of the past and don't realize that people back then were not all that different , good and bad, from people today.

    • @bibo2445
      @bibo2445 Před 2 lety +2

      @@12vscience That’s about the most stupid interpretation of the great man theory of history, which is already very stupid and unscientific, I’ve ever heard

  • @greyhoundTex
    @greyhoundTex Před 2 lety +32

    I love these historical vignettes.

  • @Sedan57Chevy
    @Sedan57Chevy Před 2 lety +34

    Every time I watch one of these, I get the urge to absorb even more western historical content, but always end up a bit disappointed that it doesn't live up to the same quality standards of Inrange. You really are doing great work documenting forgotten parts of history.
    Also, If you ever want to do a video on that leather jacket or any other of your more interesting wardrobe piece (such as your western wear) id certainly enjoy it.

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  Před 2 lety +12

      Quality standards? These are BY FAR the most difficult videos to do on the channel but a WIDE margin. I don't know what to tell you.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Před 2 lety +7

      @@InrangeTv These history vignettes are my most favourite videos from InRange TV. I enjoy most of the other channel content too but I think history is a more important subject that many of the other topics covered by the channel.

    • @Sedan57Chevy
      @Sedan57Chevy Před 2 lety +13

      @@InrangeTv yeah sorry Karl! Other content doesn't live up to yours!!! Old west vignettes are the absolute best and most of the other western historical content just pales in comparison! Sorry for not being clearer man, I really love these videos a ton. They're so good they've ruined other content for me.

  • @dannyward6093
    @dannyward6093 Před 2 lety +24

    Karl, I love the way you tell the true history in these videos. Thank you.

  • @MGood-ij1hi
    @MGood-ij1hi Před 2 lety +19

    As usual , the reality behind historic events is always more fascinating than the myths because it's about real people not story book characters. Thanks Inrange TV.

  • @RobVon
    @RobVon Před 2 lety +47

    Very well done, informative, and well produced, It obviously took a ton of work and research to deliver an avalanche of info in such short order. Content like this is why I'm a patreon! You, Ian, and the tank guy are my favorite places on the net for interesting and non-silly content.

  • @minisforerbody
    @minisforerbody Před 2 lety +15

    What an interesting story with somewhat of a positive outcome for at least one of the characters. She sounds like a properly strong and brave woman. I love the channel by the way Karl, it’s certainly one of my favourites for the more insightful and thought provoking content. Regardless of weather it’s firearms or history such as this and your other vignettes. Much love from England, thanks for doing what you do.

  • @MartyBeardFace
    @MartyBeardFace Před 2 lety +8

    505 LOVE!! Absolutely loved this video, and the ending... my face hurts from smiling so much! You're 100% right. Even knowing the story or parts of it from family growing up here in NM; like the hours long fire fight from a burning building (How freaking metal is that??) and the damn corrupt Army General, seeing the visuals and the small details along the way enhanced the story so much. Especially that 900 yard shot! Thank you again, excellent content as always.

  • @jayzenitram9621
    @jayzenitram9621 Před 2 lety +22

    Excellent documentary! I take pride in the fact that I made a tiny, tiny contribution to making it happen. Thanks Karl.

  • @noahmiller4839
    @noahmiller4839 Před 2 lety +11

    Great video. I always love to learn about this sort of thing. Armed conflict within the US is something thats rarely talked about outside of the civil war. Its interesting and important I think to learn about our history and the battles that took place

  • @commander31able60
    @commander31able60 Před 2 lety +22

    virgin generic gun youtuber: magdumps at 5 yards, uses camera and editing tricks
    chad Fernando Herrera: 900-yard no-scope one-shot kill.

  • @nandayane
    @nandayane Před 2 lety +4

    Love these stories. It really illuminates the reality of the late 1800’s, corrupt government officials in cahoots with oligarchs murdering the competition. I did not know Susan Mcsween’s incredible story, and am grateful that you made sure to share it.

  • @JackHiper
    @JackHiper Před 2 lety +7

    500 yards is challenging for me with a modern rifle. 900 is amazing.

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG Před 2 lety +11

    I think this is the second video Karl has done on Billy the Kid/the Lincoln County War where the historical facts sound pretty close to what was shown in Young Guns. Who'd have thought that a Brat Pack neo-western would get its history halfway correct?

  • @sabertoothray
    @sabertoothray Před 2 lety +2

    900 yard shot in that time is just insane. Always nice learning about this stuff!

  • @snpr1022
    @snpr1022 Před 2 lety +6

    Im from silver city nm and have been to billy's childhood home and his mother's grave....this stuff hits home for me..

    • @oldhillbillybuckkowalski
      @oldhillbillybuckkowalski Před 2 lety

      I grew up in Chaves and Roosevelt counties, Graduated from Elida High School in 88. My little brother and his family live just outside of Lincoln, his wife worked at the Dolan House until it closed in 2020. While it's not so much talked about publically, there are still people around Lincoln, Capitan, Fort Sumner, and the surrounding areas that are direct descendants of the participants (on both sides) of this part of New Mexico history, and some definitely still have strong feelings regarding the Lincoln County War, and some of their neighbors.

  • @eddyguizonde401
    @eddyguizonde401 Před 2 lety +10

    the tone you adopted in this video was entrancing. both enthusiastic and respectful. ever thought about doing voice-over for a book on the old west? thank you for the great content

  • @cristianciarlo1571
    @cristianciarlo1571 Před 2 lety +7

    That's the kind of stories no one tells you. Thanks !

  • @MonkeyDespot
    @MonkeyDespot Před 2 lety +7

    Thanks for continuing to make these videos Karl. They are great and I am always happy to see them in my notifications.

  • @badopinionsrighthere
    @badopinionsrighthere Před 2 lety +6

    I really like your style of wanting to see the places where these things took place. It really lets me visualize it a lot better than as an abstract story.

  • @MichaelJenkins910
    @MichaelJenkins910 Před 2 lety +12

    This was an especially touching and beautiful piece. Thank you.

  • @6236003
    @6236003 Před 2 lety +6

    0:45 Can relate.
    If it's not already on your historical vignette to-do list, I would recommend the Battle of Athens.

    • @dustywillis79
      @dustywillis79 Před 2 lety +1

      I would love to see him do a story on the Pleasant Valley War here in Arizona. Took place in the Young area. Not much common knowledge of what happened up there.

  • @spldrong
    @spldrong Před 2 lety +11

    Thin line between "government" and "mafia"

    • @cmikles1
      @cmikles1 Před 2 lety +3

      Only difference is the name.

  • @Wufnu
    @Wufnu Před 2 lety +3

    These old west vignettes have become most interesting parts of the channel, for me. When the story is told on site, and with all the details not commonly focused on in TV programs, it becomes incredibly interesting. Thanks for doing them!

  • @Mixu.
    @Mixu. Před 2 lety +1

    I'm late, but I finally got around to enjoying this. Thanks for taking the (surely large amount of) time to make these. They're very interesting, and not easily found elsewhere.

  • @michaelcabada2933
    @michaelcabada2933 Před 2 lety +3

    Young guns probably my fave Western movie.. This video was extremely well done. Thank you sir.

  • @pkt1213
    @pkt1213 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for making these. They are very interesting.

  • @austinjones9970
    @austinjones9970 Před 2 lety

    Incredible. Thank you for sharing this

  • @mausercal65
    @mausercal65 Před 2 lety

    This is one of your best historical videos yet .

  • @buggs9950
    @buggs9950 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks Karl, I love this stuff. I'm English so it's not even _my_ history as such but I find it fascinating all the same.

  • @RT81775
    @RT81775 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks Karl, great video as always! Edited to agree with a previous comment, it’s a skill to deliver accurate history in a concise and interesting way.

  • @terencegamble4548
    @terencegamble4548 Před 2 lety +4

    Absolutely fascinating - Thank You Karl.

  • @noahcount7132
    @noahcount7132 Před 2 lety

    Another excellent historical vignette, Karl! Many thanks for presenting these gems!

  • @antonioadinolfi4052
    @antonioadinolfi4052 Před 2 lety

    These vignettes are absolutely outstanding not only for content but for the narration which is spotless. Look forward to the next 👍

  • @tomten262
    @tomten262 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you Karl, once again you give us an interesting vignettes. These are why Im a patreon supporter and I hope that more people watching these will do the same so you can continue doing them.

  • @Trancefreakeh
    @Trancefreakeh Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for your content, Karl.

  • @PunchCatcher
    @PunchCatcher Před 2 lety

    Great work. Thanks for putting in the time, research, and effort to bring us this video.

  • @jackusmc2542
    @jackusmc2542 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Karl. Excellent as always.

  • @jimnugent1068
    @jimnugent1068 Před 2 lety

    Another great example of what keeps me here. Best overall channel on CZcams imho. Thanks for taking the time to do such great work.

  • @charlespickel6601
    @charlespickel6601 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for the content.

  • @dustywillis79
    @dustywillis79 Před 2 lety

    Love these stories you do! Especially about the Lincoln County war.

  • @Rinzler0001
    @Rinzler0001 Před 2 lety +1

    I love these videos. Excellent idea, using the maps, it's a good visualization tool.

  • @johngerson7335
    @johngerson7335 Před 2 lety

    I enjoy all of the content that you upload Karl, but your historical vignettes are by far my favorites. You have that knack for bringing the reality, logistics & personal identification to light along with the facts. Thanks !

  • @thegreenman7
    @thegreenman7 Před 2 lety

    Such an amazing story!!! Thank you for sharing!!! I LOVE your channel!!! Much Love from Utah!!!

  • @cigarettesmokingman9471
    @cigarettesmokingman9471 Před 2 lety +1

    Love these. Thanks!

  • @dougler500
    @dougler500 Před 2 lety

    Awesome story, thanks for going out there and then putting this together.

  • @Maldunn
    @Maldunn Před 2 lety

    I love it when you make these kind of videos, thanks Karl!

  • @iLLeag7e
    @iLLeag7e Před 2 lety

    Wow Karl those camera shots were amazing. Great stuff InRangeTV!

  • @BoofsBopHouse
    @BoofsBopHouse Před 2 lety +1

    I love these vignettes, thanks for all the great content guys

  • @samoksner
    @samoksner Před 2 lety

    Amazing content as always, thank you Karl. Love the gun stuff but it's content like this that have convinced me to become a patron as soon as my finances get back in order.
    I only wish my history classes back in high school and college even came close to content like this where a slice of history can give us a real insight into the past.

  • @derekp2674
    @derekp2674 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Karl. I really enjoyed this and I learnt more about the actual history of the Lincoln County War.

  • @runrob1
    @runrob1 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for a great informative video.

  • @acidtreat101
    @acidtreat101 Před 2 lety +3

    Love these types of video and love the respect shown to the "baroness". I feel like many prominent and powerful women in history are largely ignored, so this was cool to hear about!

  • @Ni999
    @Ni999 Před 2 lety +2

    Wonderfully done, Karl. I've been to Lincoln and can confirm that you have to go there or listen to someone good like Karl. Understanding the circumstances of the place is important to understanding the events, just as true in this war as any other I suppose.

  • @chrisf6876
    @chrisf6876 Před 2 lety +5

    Another fascinating educational video for a British guy interested in the true stories of the American West. Keep up the good work.

  • @67daffy
    @67daffy Před 2 lety

    Excellent work as usual you're a great narrator and host Karl. Can't let this go rejoined your Patreon again

  • @rfswitch4530
    @rfswitch4530 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome content Karl.

  • @Gonzo.S.Thompson
    @Gonzo.S.Thompson Před 2 lety

    Excellent presentation Carl.

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 Před 2 lety

    Great story! Didn't know that last bit AT ALL! Thanks again Karl :)

  • @czs9380
    @czs9380 Před 2 lety +1

    This was such a great video. Love your content. Keep it up!

  • @charlestown8997
    @charlestown8997 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for the video.

  • @Zorro_c.s.
    @Zorro_c.s. Před 2 lety +1

    The governor of New Mexico should had given Billy and the rest of the regulators a pardon. Great channel and video by the way ! Keep them coming !

  • @TheDoorspook11c
    @TheDoorspook11c Před 2 lety

    Dude yall are awesome and an accurate and precise educational tool about America.

  • @Skankhunter420
    @Skankhunter420 Před 2 lety +2

    Great episode Karl!

  • @ShadowStalker68
    @ShadowStalker68 Před 2 lety

    One thing I want to highlight is how well you manage to keep a flowing narration going while cutting between different locations. It would be very easy to fall into a stop-start pattern with every cut, but you make it sound like one continuous lecture. I can't imagine that's easy to do, but it's easily overlooked by the audience, so I specifically wanted to congratulate you on that particular aspect.

  • @neilcook4686
    @neilcook4686 Před 2 lety

    Superb video - thank you :)

  • @ccrates25
    @ccrates25 Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic content as always. Keep up the great work!
    Also, I hope you have some more videos in your Lever Gun Series in the works!

  • @bushmansa518
    @bushmansa518 Před 2 lety +7

    Great content, such interesting history for such a young country .

  • @789again8
    @789again8 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video!!

  • @Marlanson
    @Marlanson Před 2 lety +1

    Great perspective,
    Thanks

  • @hakon5873
    @hakon5873 Před 2 lety

    I love these videos! Keep the great history content coming.

  • @1BlessEdYou
    @1BlessEdYou Před 2 lety

    Such great videos, thanks.

  • @joshuataft5541
    @joshuataft5541 Před 2 lety

    These arey favorite vids..love the history and the guns and mindset...thanx for the work that goes into it..I know it's rewarding but not easy.. thanx Karl..hope I can shake your hand before we go to the great range in the sky

  • @pistolero486
    @pistolero486 Před 2 lety

    Great video Karl. I really enjoyed it.

  • @giarcsavage
    @giarcsavage Před 2 lety

    great video, so much incredible history falls through the cracks, bravo man!

  • @REXOB9
    @REXOB9 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for a great job in telling this story.

  • @Ducaso
    @Ducaso Před 2 lety +1

    These Wild West vignettes are my favorite bit of insightful content. They are so rad!

  • @ahmiv8825
    @ahmiv8825 Před 2 lety

    Love your old west/historical vids

  • @scottanddebranelson8419

    great piece sir.

  • @siegethelore219
    @siegethelore219 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video, thanks Karl!

  • @ogyaami
    @ogyaami Před 2 lety

    I love these videos Carl!

  • @Falcon-15
    @Falcon-15 Před 2 lety

    Bit late to this one. But once again these OWV are absolutely fantastic. Top job Karl.

  • @alun7006
    @alun7006 Před 2 lety

    Fascinating stuff. Thank you!

  • @mattowens3451
    @mattowens3451 Před 2 lety

    Great work man. Story delivery. The obvious thought and research you put into it. The old west vignettes are awesome. 👍I can't really contribute although I feel I should. I'll be spreading the word to people to check out your videos.Keep doin what you do man

  • @lumbyman
    @lumbyman Před 2 lety

    Really great vid! Hope to see more about the LCW in the future.

  • @skullboy1977
    @skullboy1977 Před 2 lety

    Great video. I work down in Ruidoso quite a bit. Drove through Ft. Stanton last week. It’s beautiful down that way with all the rain we’ve been getting.

  • @alexr.5389
    @alexr.5389 Před 2 lety +6

    The US government never changes.

  • @kyledunn6853
    @kyledunn6853 Před 2 lety +21

    This was portrayed in Young Guns as the final gunfight between Billy's Regulators and Murphy's hired guns. I loved Emilio Estevez as Billy the Kid. Probably my favorite western after Tombstone.

    • @5000rgb
      @5000rgb Před 2 lety

      I thought the movie was just fiction with one of the characters named after the real person. It wasn't until I saw these Inrange videos that I realized how much was true. I don't recall the movie being advertised as based on a true story but it seems much more accurate than most of the movies that that claim a basis in history.