HEAD TO HEAD REVIEW!!! Asetek Invicta vs Simucube 2 Pro WOW!! Can Asetek beat the old KIng Simucube?
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- čas přidán 21. 03. 2023
- So lets see who got the most out of their bases Asetek or Simucube ;-)
In this video I will be putting the Asetek Invicta Direct Drive Wheelbase up against the 5 year old Master that is the Simucube 2 Pro Direct Drive Base to see if Asetek can make Sim Racing equipment with the best.
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i don't play racing games but this was recommended.i had no idea what was in the thumbnail but i was curious. this was a great review, good job man.
Oh my lord! You and that Invicta on max had me laughing out loud😂😂 Such a great video! You deserve way more views. Keep up the good work👍Liked and subscribed
Incredible entertaining and authentic as well. Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks man much appreciated
Great source for relevant sim racing news and information, enjoyable all around, thank u, will be watching
Subscribed bro love the review keep it up I have decided I’m getting the invicta base
Thanks matey, I love my Invicta base it’s my main base 🙌🏻
Great review mate. Informative and entertaining!
What a nice, funny, informative and entertaining guy! Stop it immediately, you're making the rest of us look bad!!! Liked and Subbed - see you on the next one.
Thanks for the kind words it’s much appreciated ❤️
Appreciate your review!
Great job man keep it up
Great video again. I'd love to see you go through Sunset at Sebring for your Shake and Bake section!
Loved this video, you had me laughing at you shaking and baking..And for that I have subscribed.Thankyou... you have just added abit of gooddness to my day.
Very happy I could make someone’s day a little better 😉 will get a shake and bake video up this week 😂 stay tuned
@@TheSimCircuit I've ordered the asetek forte base and wheel I'm hoping it's as good as they say.
@@garysmith70 you will be very happy it’s a great base. Just remember the wrong settings in software can make the best base feel like dirt, so take the time tune to your liking. Asetek has a few decent profiles you can start with 👍🏻
You testing these at full power made me like and describe and cry with laughter
Cheers mate, not sure when il get a new base but the full NM Test will be a thing 😂😂
funniest ffb test good stuff. also that was the perfect place to test.. going up that hill and turning generates a lot of ffb
Will do again, maybe Christmas special 😂
I love your funny style....great video.
bro your the best...great intro, great content
Thank you 😊
It is exactly what I expected. Thank you so much for this great comparison. Keep going…
great review !
Thumbs up, purely for the look on your face @ 27nm through eau rouge and raidillon on the Asetek. Priceless! Gave me a good laugh.
What a nice review!
Thank you sir 😉
Thank you for your opinion!
Thanks for watching 🙌🏻
I would like to see an updated review/comparison between this. there isnt too many out there with a year or two expierience
Something I will possibly do in a couple of months I have about 3 videos I need to finish, but then it might be a good idea to revisit this.
Probably the question I get asked the most is Asetek or Simucube 😛
Good comparison. You prob already figured this out, but on the back of the Simucube is a 15 pin gameport connection. Very old school by modern standards. You could use it with some classic racing hardware, like the ECCI Pedals (Momo version) for example.
Hi cheers for reply someone did let me know about the gameport yes. It is a bit old school but so is the SC 2 pro mine still going like a boss thou 👍🏻
Tried and true.
Excellent comparison. Didn't you have a Fanatec DD1 or 2? Id like to know how it compares.
I had both the DD1 and the DD2 I remember changing from fanatec to simucube was a big upgrade in force feed back quality (how things feel like curbs ect..) but power was similar. Now this is more than a year ago and I have heard that fanatec has made improvements unfortunately i can’t tell you if those improvements are good or not as I don’t have any fanatec bases at this moment. 👍🏻
Been waiting for mine to ship since November of last year.
Oh it’s hard waiting on something you know is coming especially when you see other getting theirs delivered 🥲 I had mine preordered on day one of release.
I hope you get a surprise delivery this week 😊
Another decent video bud. Daytona bus stop please 😊
I wish I had the funds to get either. Hell. I would settle for the either of the SC Sport or Asetek La Prima wheelbases. For now, I got to get on with what I got.
Best way to do it just have fun! Your time will come 😉 iv been at it since 2016 and believe me back then I just really really wanted the fanatec BMW rim, you don’t need to get it all at once. Great thing bout sim racing is the equipment you buy does not need replacing every year. My simucube is 3 years old before that my fanatec v3 pedals I bought 2nd hand and had them for also another 3 years.
Enjoy what you have and slowly upgrade as and when you can 😉
Lovded it!😂
Best sim video ever
😂 thanks man would not go that far but glad you liked it 😘
Good video 👍 I do worry about the plastic QR over time I have no problem with the simucube QR and running a usb personally that’s the thing we are all different and with my FPRO wheel rim it is Bluetooth if I choose to use it anyways
I thought the QR itself was metal. But I looked again at aseteks videos and articles and I really found no word about the material. Only in the video with a closeup shot it really doesn't look like metal.
Sorry for late reply, the QR looks like plastic however it is metal. Won’t have any problems with the qr breaking that I’m sure off 👍🏻
Shake n Bake, the Watkins Glen bus stop. how about a video on the wheel you used for the Simucube?
Oh Watkins Glen 🤦🏼♂️ lol dreading this one ☝️ 😂.
I will certainly do a review on it, might take a couple of weeks thou at this time I only have the time to do one video week 😉
Lmao I was dying at the max FFB run with the asetek 🤣
Makes me happy knowing somewhere in the world someone else is laughing at me & not just my wife 😂
lol was afraid you were gonna break your wrist or something 😂
@@Kyle-ts5th mate not gona lie I’m more conscious of my hands and grip when doing it at max. Would be very easy to brake a finger or like you say wrist with them bases.
hi, great review. question did you experience any usb disconnections, i'm running an invicta on ams2 and see ffb disconnects.
Hey mate I don’t run ams2 but I did have trouble the odd time when I was using a usb-c to usb-c. Asetek also recommend you use usb-c to usb-a. Hope it’s as easy as that.
I also seen on user forums some people the ffb switches of between loading screens on certain sims. So doing a qualifying then loading in to race their ffb will disconnect. Asetek as far as I know, knows about this issue and is working on resolving it.
Emergency off mounted on the face of the mount seems kind of dangerous. Having to reach towards the path of an out of control wheel…. Imagine having to reach it mounted on the right with your left hand😬😬😬
Loved the video!! Fun and entertaining, but I’m sticking with my Simucube😀😀
Yea having in front probably not the best idea also the Asetek one is rather small so will need to make sure and be accurate when having to push it 😂
Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the video 🙌🏻
If in doubt flat out 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 great review! I hate asetek, but great video !
You really need to set up the camera towards your wheelbase when doing videos like this. It would alos bring in more engagment. Its what most of the community wants to see in comparisons. Love your videos but we dont see you drive enough when testing things and we arent getting to look at alot of the products while in use.
Thanks for advice matey, honestly that was like my 3de video I mad, been doing YT for a year now and made less than 30 videos. Still learning and I can assure you I will get better as time goes on.
My biggest challenge and reason why I’ve yet to post racing videos is cause I find it very hard to talk and drive (drive well) at same time it’s something I am working on. I lose focus so fast and forget what I am saying 🤦🏼♂️
@TheSimCircuit gotcha well I wouldn't worry about how good you are driving when showing us the products. Just talk about how it feels etc and show it while in use. Would just be a nice plus. I enjoy your videos regarldess.
Good review but the Simucube is like a 2000 SUV & the Asetek is 2023 Simucube set the Benchmark for DD & Asetek just modernized it. I personally went with the Pro 2 because it's been around & Asetek was Brand new & I didn't want New Company problems.& As for r the on/off button after 3 days you have it down where it is hasn't been a problem ever finding it.
100% the Simucube is built amazing I never hear much bout problems. Asetek have seen few hiccups but they seem to have the customer service down and are eager to rectify any problems. I recently ordered the 3de party QR they released so will be looking forward to extensively testing the Invicta then 👍🏻
34:18 hahah thats a damn jackhammer
😂😂😂 I was actually surprised how crazy it shook everything, very much like a jackhammer yes
This may get peoppe mad, but the new dd+ feels very much like asetek now. Way it moves, the weight, grip and details. Makes sense though both have slew rate of 6.2-6.3nm/ms but the way it feels is amazing now. Also they state the simucube pro is 8nm/ms but even asetek tested the simucube pro and it was 6.3 same gors for the ultimate which they rate at 9nm it also didnt go sbove 6.3. So seems like all of the monsters true slew rate is 6nm/ms so makes sense why they all feel so quick and fast with ffb translations.
Have a feeling simucubes next product is gonna annihalte everyone. Since there 4 year old tech is still able to feel as good as the new stuff haha. I will say when fanatec gets that full force out idk how anybody will beat the feel. Even with the issues with fanatec right now im rooting for them to come through and get back at top again on day!
I will say idk what it is but asetek feels lime it always has less understeer then the simucube does. If you realize when turning in you were able to turn in sharoer with the asetek.
Yes slew rate probably the most important element of a good dd but I think it’s starting to become a marketing gimmick also. Just in my experience to notice the difference between say 6 & 8 ms slew rate is so minute you need to be an expert pianist to pick up on. I do agree with you that fanatec has closed the gap significantly. This month the simucube 2 is actually 5 years on the market 🤯
@@TheSimCircuitCrazy right? The fact simicube was that advanced? Like what? I think all of these dd wheels are now perfectly fine. Peoole can enjoy any of them. Tbh yeah thwy all feel good with ffb but i do notice differences with each base with turning in, understeer effects grip and so on. some dont think that wheelbases change that to much but Ibbelieve they do. Asetek turn in is so sharp it feels like the grip is there almost at all times feels like you can be more aggresive with it and thats how ive been feeling with my dd+ over my simagic
@@TheSimCircuitbut I cannot wait until you try the dd+ please please review the dd+ not the dd because it's clear just like the csl dd pro this base was made to be used at its peak potential the 15nm not the 12nm. The details the center forces everything. It's the only base ive used besides asetek where the forced never leave 100% of the time unless its loss of grip etc. So the control is just better in general. It actually does make you more consistent and faster imo because of that. But yeah the whole 6nm thing the reason the simucube doesn't feel like more I'd because it's been tested and there 8 to 9nm/ms was a lie. It's been tested to be around 6.2/6.3 just like asetek and just like the dd+ now. So yeah thats probably why you didn't notice much difference with that part because there wasn't much haha.
I would love to test the dd+ and hopefully will in future but at the moment I buy 99% of everything you see on my channel. I also don’t own a fanatec wheel anymore so would need to buy the base and a wheel and I can’t do that at the moment 😢
I hear what you saying bout simucube and astek that makes sense 🤔 perhaps later this year I will look into Fanatec again 🙌🏻
@TheSimCircuit I think that it is widely known that Simucube does not use these HangZhou MiGE motors in their wheelbases so where this comes to your video description? Just a simple error?
I must have miss understood the article I read il put my hands up 🙌🏻 sorry I did read they use the same motor I might be wrong, will clear up in next few hour 👍🏻
Just wondering how Asetek support was with your wheel shaking issue. Did you get the issue resolved?
They were amazing matey, I remember posting to them on a Friday & the next Thursday I had the wheel back. Can also honestly say have had zero issues since 👍🏻
@@TheSimCircuit ty, that's great to hear.
Thanks for the comparison video. Why do you have to turn off your Simucube? I turned the base on after installing and haven't turned it off since. When not in use it goes to sleep.
Guess you don’t need to switch it off, you can just keep it running but like a pc you can keep it running no problem I personally just always prefer to switch off when not in use 🤷🏼♂️ I’m weird like that 😂🤦🏼♂️
@@TheSimCircuit Does the wheelbase consume a lot of power when sat idle?
Hilarious 😂😂😂 @ 35mins
In my mind, a better analogy in terms of performance would be Iron Mike = Simucube and Logan Paul = Thrustmaster
😂😂😂😂😂 100% yes. Seen some training videos of Mike cant believe this guy nearly 60 😳
Awesome review. Suscribed. As a suggestion, make videos about gear that more people can buy. The Invicta and the Simucube seem awesome, but maybe 400 people can buy one of those.
Will do my best in future to add something for everyone, but for now just reviewing my own gear 👍🏻
do your have iracing settings for me
for invicta
Will share my setup for you on my Facebook, link in description of any of my video, I can’t post anything like photos on CZcams yet
I have a open wheeler & gt car setup il post both 👍🏻 just give me an hour please
If I recall correctly, Asetek CEO said in a video that it bought intellectual property from another wheel base manufacturer. I bet it was Simucube.
Yea from what I understand it was Simucube just not 100% what besides for the QR design they used from Simucube
I was 100% sure I was gonna buy the simucube 2 pro up until I saw this video, now I’m 100% buying the asetek invicta especially because of the quick release adapter that was just released, hopefully the wheelbase doesn’t have any play similar to what was demonstrated in this video 🙏🏼
I have ordered 2 of the Invicta QRs little bit pricy if u have multiple wheels thou. Trust me you will be very happy with either bases. Btw within a week Asetek sorted my wheel so now i got no play and i am very happy!
@@TheSimCircuit thank you so much for making my decision, I’m most likely going with the asetek invicta, this will also be my first direct drive rig since I currently use a thrustmaster t150 pro which also keeps falling off my desk 😂
so after using both for over 1 year.. what do you recommend me to buy ? invicta or SC 2 Pro?
Matey a few weeks ago I would 100% have said Asetek because your getting the great QR, Usb ports at back of base the light strips now have functionality rather than just being decorative. But simucube now has more detailed force feedback with 360hz on iRacing. At first I was not sure but just last night I put back my asetek base back on to test the new race hub 3.0 settings and there was a noticeable difference in ffb where as before I found the 2 bases to be very similar I now believe simucube has the edge on that front. I am sure that Asetek will be bringing 360hz to their bases but when I don’t know.
One thing I do know, it does not matter which one you are picking you will be happy with both. I myself will be running my asetek base now as I can’t be bothered swapping again lol and I like the extra features it gives me 🤷🏼♂️
@@TheSimCircuitjust saw someone released a way to make every wheel wireless and will work with simucube. Very exciting
czcams.com/video/eMj1Lm6N8m8/video.htmlsi=I-_eGCLKwL9jjFJw
The asetek is literally a Simucube . Wait for Simucube release their next wheelbase!!
🙌🏻 I think the next Simucube base going to be great 👍🏻
No comparison, Simucube is and will be the king for a long time
At the moment I am using the Asetek base however I am yet to decide on what I will be keeping for my rig 🤦🏼♂️ heard there will be Software updates coming very soon for simucube, not sure it’s actually possible to make the simucube base better but sound like they have done 🤯
How about Bodnar ?
@@TechnicalUnderground Bondar is based on Simucube1 so it's old technology nowadays, I upgraded from Simucube1 to Simucube2 and there is a lot of difference in fidelity.
@@TheSimCircuitI am so happy that i ordered the simucube pro 2!! End game base((:
@@tRAWtrtv 🙌🏻 good choice matey. I don’t actually think I have ever heard anyone’s say they are not happy with their simucube 2 pro 💪🏼
So what caused this insane shaking? Clearly the cars dont drive like that, what was that setting?
No cars don’t shake like that, was just showing how much power these bases have, putting your base on max NM and also putting all dampening effects to 0 gets u to shake like that.
Depends on car but normally you have independent settings for what ever type of car you drive so your base knows how to respond. What I done here would never be used to as actual settings for racing. Hope that helps
I got the upgraded kill switch for my simucube pro 2 well worth it and it as the on off switch a little blue light pops on, this way you dont have to switch that button in back on and off. Big help
Oh I think the upgraded kill switch is great however I’m just a bit cheap lol did not want to be spending extra money for essentially just an on/off switch 😳 I had the fanatec kill switch with on/off before I got simucube pro and I did miss that function especially after getting use to it.
@@TheSimCircuit Yes for the miney we soend on this damn thing 1 would think they could throw in a proper kill switch lol
I think so too but will forgive them as it’s one hell of direct drive system 😁
@@TheSimCircuit I ditched my DD1 for it and outside of the faulty power supply I first got with it. Its far superior
Agree, the Simucube 2 pro premium kill-switch is great. I upgraded from a DD2 and Im glad I did, so much smoother and it feels like it has so much more potential. I considered the Asetek but the plastic finish and inferior mounting option put me off (flex in the front mount). I ended up going all in with the simucube pedals - as they say invest once in a premium product as it saves money in the end...
GSI steering wheel are compatible with asetek ?
Yes they are if you buy the Asetek Quick Release. I have actually recently bought a GSI wheel and waiting on it being delivered. I will be using it on my Asetek base 👍🏻
@@TheSimCircuit Ty
I like it thanks info
so why was the asetek so wonkly at full power? that seems like a mis-interpretation of what should be going through the wheel or something?
Think it could be because of the play I had in wheel (currently my wheel away to Asetek so will know when it comes back) but also the front mount has a little flex in it no matter how tight I make the bolts. I will be getting a like a Simcore front mount when they get released. The simcore front mount I have for simucube is solid af and does not move period no matter the force I put on it.
That intro..... I just wanted it to end.
All intro’s come to an end…..
briilant video
130r down through Casio triangle.
Simagic is the best one, best quick release as well with 0 flex, I actually tried the simucube but simagic felt better plus price is way better.
simagic felt better than simucube LMFAO
i sold the simucube 2 pro and ordered an invicta, i just think asetek took what simucube had and dragged it that one step further and the prices were close enough it was not a big loss for me. One thing i do think it lacking with Asetek currently is they just do not seem to have the logistics in place for this launch, ive been waiting months for my unit which should not be the case, they said in an interview (andre specifically) that they wouldn't have a stack of third party sellers if they couldn't provide them with stock... well i know for damn sure where i ordered from they have no stock and they are an official distributor.
A small critique on your review if i may... i enjoy your content and your setup however i find the pacing a little slow, i put the video on 1.5x and it was very watchable and made the driving sections rather funny to watch aswell, but i wouldnt watch at less than 1.25x i have to be honest, but thanks for the video's. Also rumor has it that the bolt stuck to your shifter magnet at 6.38 is still there to this day... just incase you are missing a bolt somewhere :)
I do things at a slow pace I know lol and that’s me trying to narrow video down, might just speed things up in future thanks.
As to the bolt I’m at work so not yet checked but yea most likely still there 😂😂😂
@@TheSimCircuit you are doing a good job, i wish you well, ill continue to watch.
very funny
😂 crazy people still watching this. Maybe time to test another base at max ffb 🤔
The asetek is actually cheaper where i live.
Oh wow really then the choice is easy for you 😀 may I ask where you live?
How do you know that those devices have same motor?
www.asetek.com/press-releases/asetek-announces-exclusive-supply-agreement-with-motor-manufacturer-hangzhou-mige/
Same manufacturer I don’t know the ins and outs but I know they had to send some money simucubes way 🤷🏼♂️
They your racing feet in the background ? 9:10
Not sure what u referencing to at 9:10? Are you referring to the best race shoes designed the Adidas sliders? 😂
You call it Logan Paul and I’m immediately turned off from it lol. Simucube it is.
😂😂😂 its my pleasure for making one of the hardest decisions in buying sim gear at this moment easy for you 😉 great choice cant go wrong either way.
Are you South African?
Hi 👋🏼 Rob guilty yes 😀
@@TheSimCircuit haha takes one to know one! Lekka channel!
Dankie man 😂
okay but on race you have 0 skills so a bit complicated...
LoL.... Sry SC2Pro. Best ever..... Segment Profi! Asetek, Moza, Fanatec. Beginner...
norris, verstappen... Simucube!!!!
One system that doesnt get mentioned anymore is the Bodnar's Simsteering V2. I guess the reason is because its pretty old. Its price tag is still pretty steep. Does anyone has any experience with the Bodnar V2 and any of the latest top end motors like the DD2 and SC2 Pro/Ultimate and cares to describe how they compare FEEL wise? If you only have experience with one please dont comment. I only want to hear from those that have experience with the Bodnar V2 and other top end servos.
Unfortunately out of my price range had every base you mentioned above except for the Bodnar that your interested in 😢
Isn't JimmyBroadbent still on one of those?
Hi The Sim, does this base also work with drivehub? thanks in advance and thanks for the top video
Hi mate sorry for late reply, was looking online but can’t find anything on it. I don’t have drivehub unfortunately. But buying these bases to use on a PlayStation or Xbox won’t do them justice.
Okay, thanks for feedback