I do wish they'd simplify the designs a bit. I think all the angles everywhere make their wheels look cluttered compared to competitors more elegant and naturally flowing designs. Cube COntrols are guilty of this too. Too much unnecessary complexity going on visually.
@boostedmedia I haven't seen Fanatic wheels in real life but a lot of them look toy like to me with there colouring. I have the la Prima and it does look better in real life but I understand the criticism from others.
It was an amazing look for the Pedals tbh, and I get them wanting to somewhaz keep the color scheme they had there. But that orange and black just really destroys the looks of their wheels.
To me it has a 70's supercar vibe to the design and you either like it or don't. I myself went with the Simagic as for me, design vise they look definitelly up there with the best ones..
Micro Center is awesome. Wish we had one here in Arizona. I visited one in California a few months ago while on vacation and they had a rig set up for customers to try out with a Simucube wheel and pedal set up. Very cool.
Thanks Will, this was the detailed look at the new Asetek wheel rims I was waiting for and have placed my order for a La Prima button and the Orange D shaped rim with confidence armed with information I have gained after watching this video.
I was gonna go full La Prima, but was able to get a TK base open box for super cheap from Microcenter, so I went ahead and chucked what I saved into the round leather w/ Forte BB, and I'm absolutely loving it. Superb products and amazing feel. I hope you've found yourself equally pleased. I upgraded after 5 years on a T300, so I have no frame of reference on DD, but I can't imagine a 10-12nm kit gets any better than this. I watched a lot of sim racing garage reviews in addition to Will's and found reasons to avoid other bases, though I almost pulled the trigger on Alpha mini and likely would of if these wheels hadn't been released.
@@bonedawgstudio5649 I am still impressed with my wheel and pedal setup from Asetek mate and still finding ways it’s a step up from my original Accuforce DD wheel base. The D shaped rim has really helped with the immersion when racing GT style cars.
Yep not having round wheels a couple months ago is there only thing that kept me from upgrading to Asetek they only had F1 wheels but I wanted there la prima bundle so bad and the Tony Kanan one was only $800 for a full setup but didn't make a round wheel so I went Moza R12 with CRP pedals and CS wheel I really don't regret my decision but these new Asetek wheels look really good and it's priced well
coming from a 350mm wheel for rally, drift and roadcars and a CC f-pro for gt and formula cars, i've decided to jump into the asetek ecosystem with a forte wheelbase, a QR for the fpro and the 350mm wheel and i've also went ahead and got a laprima buttonbox with the comfort+ round wheel, thinking the 330mm will be better suited for rally and streetcars. my 350 wheel did not have any buttons so i was forced to use a rig mounted buttonbox for keybinds like brake bias or tcs etc. i'm still keeping it around for drifting since that's just playing around and i dont really need quick access to any buttons. Very keen to try out the new setup next week when i get it all installed. the laprima with 330mm wheel should be the weapon of choice for my upcoming mx5 cup league on i-racing early next year. just enough time to get to grips with all the new stuff, and to learn a bit of iracing as well since it's been over 6 years since i last had that software installed and i assume lots has changed.
Awesome video as always guys, thanks so much! Not gonna buy any of these but love watching anyway. I'm really trying to like the design as I love the look of the rest of their gear, but there's something about those button boxes that just don't look right. Cant put my finger on it though. Definitely looks better on open wheels than closed.
I absolutely love Asetek's ecosystem and modularity of their designs. It is incredibly well thought out, and this is very difficult to achieve BERFORE releasing a product as opposed to doing things retroactively. Regardless; I ended up going with Simagic alpha mini and a GTS wheel because it was a few hundred bucks cheaper and I honestly don't see myself buying a ton of 3rd party wheels that would take advantage of the Asetek quick release. And the Alpha mini didn't require any extra mounts for my rig, so it'll be way easier for me to install.
I am still super happy with my alpha mini and GTS wheel! FFB Strength is more than I expected, and the level of detail compared to a belt driven wheel is impressive. I also love how it looks, such a small form factor and nice black aluminum casing. Highly recommend!@@sstetsiv
To be fair, if all that was available when I bought the stuff for my rig 2 months ago, I might've gone for Asetek, but going with them (and LaPrima stuff was impossible to find through resellers, on Asetek site only) meant the formula-style wheel only for a while. Not the main stuff I drive at the moment. Too bad I guess. Great stuff nonetheless Will
Ya, this was a big concern for me because I love to drive rally games as well. I ended up only going Asetek because of the MicroCenter "TK Bundle" which is basically a La Prima/Forte hybrid Tony Kanaan signature bundle for $800. With the new WRC game out, I've been anxiously waiting for these wheels and some other accessories like handbrake/shifter. It's been a good product and I'm happy with their stuff, but I'm also NOT driving one of my favorite styles of racing because the ecosystem isn't fully flushed out yet. So I can't blame you for going elsewhere.
Asetek is really nailing it! One of the best FFB systems, great quality products and prices. Very open eco system with thirth party but also inside the Asetek products themself. Its so convinient to switch between al thise rims, button boxes etc. Also alot of upgrade paths. And for the people that complain about the orange/looks. Must say that i love them, they really growe on me. But also there will be different color sets in the near future. From Asetek themself but also from thirth party producers. I don't know that is not to like about them! So much better then the fanatec i head before. By fanatec if you want something, you always need a extra hub like product that is way to expensive! Everything is closed as well.
Their ecosystem is open only one way, though. At least with Fanatec you can use pretty much any rim with standard 6x70mm bolt pattern. Asetek makes a proprietary rim instead. As someone who's not planning to go Asetek (for a few reasons) I still like the look of the round rim and would love to buy it IF it was a standard rim, but I can't.
Not offering the paddle accessories for the LA Prima wheels feels like a missed opportunity. People on a budget are more likely to purchase accessories down the line and most won't be tempted into an upsell to a Forte wheel.
I do agree with you.. I am waiting on my La Prima to arrive in next few days It would have been nice to have the option to add the extra paddles and overall they would make more sales, like you said. As for me, I will skip upgrading to the Forte button box, and wait for the invicta. Asetek mentioned in replies they will be launching 2 invicta wheels. So my next upgrades will be the wheel and upgrade to Forte base. But overtime
IMO Asetek dropped a massive clanger here, all 330mm rims, I wouldn't want any of them. If I switched to Asetek it would only be for the wheel base (and possibly pedals) then I would be looking at 3rd party steering wheels. It's nice they are producing quality products, I just wonder how much market research they did?
Man they really need to hire a proper product designer. I almost pulled the trigger for Asetek, but man the initial wheel bundles with the toy like design and tacky rubber handles just turned me off... Nice to see they have wheels with good to touch materials now, even if the hub design still looks cheap despite being good quality.
I want that closed D + Forte button box + Prima wheelbase so bad. I think that's my dream goal for next year if I'm still into all of this. Thanks for all the info around this!
@@unotoli Haha it’s tempting but I need to be ‘financially responsible’ for a bit. That’s good advice though. Edited: And what I meant to say was Forte button box. I want the option of clutch paddles. I actually want the Prima wheelbase. Higher Nm is lost on me as I usually opt for weaker FFB.
Happy with my Logitech Pro (I wish there were more wheels and a pro shifter) but I’ll watch this anyways cause I enjoy learning about all the different brands
what I don't get is why the quick release has to be $150 / €150 when they can make an entire button box for $280 / €280. IMO that quick release (while very nice) is way overpriced
Hope the next generation will have numbers around the rotary encoders although I would not buy another wheel when the first one is still working. At least some stickers to attach could do the trick. And yes, some don't like the toy look. If they would improve this they had so much more customers
That’s why we made the universal QR for people to use their wheel of preference. We have sold quite a few and if the design was to your preference, then perhaps our current customers would not have bought. If one steering wheel manufacturer had it all right, no competitor would have existed by now. Point is taste is very subjective and instead of trying to please all with our design, we instead is pleasing all by giving them the option of using the wheel THEY like the most 👍
So.. the question I had when I first saw these.. given the more cost overall.. what do these do that the stand alone wheels dont? It's not like you're going to buy a few different wheels, one button base, and swap them.. they dont quickly swap.. so it would be a bit of a pain in the ass to undo the 6 or so screws to put a different wheel on the one base. Or is that the actual intention? I assume the primary point of the two pieces instead of all in one like everyone else has, is to allow you to maybe choose a round wheel instead of the other styles for the particular button base? I just dont know that I see what the advantage is for spending more on this setup if you plan to get similar wheel/base anyway? Plus, some of the fancier wheels have OLED screens and other things in them and more buttons, etc on them.
Covered in the video. It’s not done this way for quick swapping. It’s done to allow more space for buttons without having to have the box sit in front of the rim like the Fanatec rally button box does.
@@boostedmediaYes, and also you DO have the option to switch if you for example drive one type of cars for a while then want to switch to another and drive that for a while. Having options is never wrong.
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Crazy how competitive pedals and wheels have become...
i love Asetek, how they attach to the feedback of the community, their quality, their transparency. I love my Forte Wheelbox and Pedals. But their Wheels-Designs ... i still cant get used to it, even after using my Forte Wheel for 10 months. It works fine, Buttonplacement is fine, it feels good. But the overall aesthetik is a bit off and i read that under every video to their wheels in the comments. I hoped the new wheels would catch me more but it seems i have to took a thirdparty wheel with a quickrelease adapter.
At 7:00 - Why would you not compare ClubSport hub rather than CSL hub? My reason for asking is the price and build quality are a bit more similar on those two options.
Asetek gear is nice and is a proper competitor. But yeah I share the same notion as to why they look a bit more toyish. Even the Fanatec Mclaren GT3 Replica which is made of plastic, look more genuine wheel. (I mean duh its a replica but still) The Simagic GT NEO also looks more real life wheel.
I was wondering if they are going to release any wheels or button box within the Invicta name like their base and pedals? Overall I really like their Forte lineup but would be nice to know before purchasing.
Why no one puts the Simagic GT Pro Hub in comparison with the Forte Hub? It has the same features, it's cheaper, and comes with dual clutch included. It's 479 usd (if you include a wheel rim, 390 without a rim) against 499 for the Forte. The Simagic offer seems quite better in terms of looks and features.
I understand where your critisims and scepticism is coming from. But China is providing nearly all small and server motors for most car brands worldwide. It is not magic stuff they do and quality problems are not a real problem Simagic users have to deal with more then with Fanatec for example. And spyware...i dont know. I m dar more afraid of data krakens like Google or Meta.
Toller Rewiev bis auf die Kratzer.... das ist mir beim APM Paddels auch passiert bis ich Tape verwendet habe. Das Design ist Typisch Scandinavisch so Saab und Volvo Style eben. Mir muss es Optisch auch gefallen, in der Hinsicht ist es nicht mein Geschmack. Kenne zwei Leute die hatten die Invicta Pedale, haben alle beide wieder verkauft und sich andere Hersteller gekauft.
The button box still look like cheap plastic while the quality actually might be better than it looks. The rims look really nice though. Wish they would offer a third party button box for other bases
In February I was debating between asetek and Logitech. I chose Logitech The FFB is great but the lack of ecosystem support has been terrible. Wish I would have went with asetek
I'm in the same boat. Bought into the Logitech G Pro system, with the hopes of having more wheel options by now. Sadly, not yet. I've heard this is changing soon though. Logitech is aware people are not happy with the current offerings, and hinted that more wheel options are coming 'soon' (tm). I guess we'll see. I love the Logitech G Pro wheel + pedals. But more wheel options is something I really miss.
Hi Will ;) In one of your videos(or this video?), you mentioned stickers for Asetek wheels. Unfortunately, I can't find anything. I kind of like the idea of a single wheel hub for different rims, but I'm not a big fan of Asetek's wheel look. Can anyone here direct me to a right place? ;)
Why didn’t you guys compare the Formula 2.5v? I feel like that’s a very quality wheel and cheaper than these wheels. I know the CSL is similar cause it’s “open eco” but I still think fanstecs entire eco system should be considered since that’s what makes their eco system so strong when other companies only have like 4 or 5 wheels
The only thing that puts me off about Asetek is that - like Fanatec - they have at least some of their production done in China. Moza, Simagic, and Logitech are all actual Chinese companies. The only 2 brands i know of that are not tied to China, is Thrustmaster (100% US) and Simucube (Finnish company, produced in Italy). As expensive as Simucube is, at least it only supports allies, and its WAY more premium then the Thrustmaster DD wheel. Im not sure how long the US will remain an ally, but at least i dont expect them to become my enemies anytime soon, so for now im ok with buying from them too, but not AS much as im ok with Simucube 🥰 If you add together the employers tax, and the tax employees pay, and the VAT, then where i live, that adds up to around 67% that goes to the government...
The Stickers are nicely presented? Yeah, right, about as nicely presented as a chicken on an indonesian market. But a great Review as always, of course! 👍 Especially interesting regarding the comparison to Fanatec.
All rims are quite the same, yet when assembled it costs more than a standalone pick. Recent DD+ preview on this channel gave me more hope in terms of telemetry >> additional FF (AccuForce and recently Logi with TrueForce tech) AND their slew rate graphs.. Sadly, no CZcams channel that capable of getting all wheelbases for review makes a direct measurment comparison ;(
On other hand, their quick-release adapter is quite user friendly. Still, could be better if wheel part would be a once-piece, with all mechanics on base side.
One more frustration - why they are not using a quarter-turn or one-touch fasteners to fix those Rims? No tool, quick swap solution. Would hate to mod it myself (I am still not decided between DD+ and Asetek Forte).
Clubsport wheels are not cheaper, if you compare csl wheels... Why would you buy dd+ if you can get g29 cheaper? /S And if you are talking about the button box, count buttons alone. Materials are top notch, visually ppl can be upset tho... Idc I watch the road ahead when I'm racing and buttons are handy.
@@The33FunI agree about buttons and especially encoders. My concern was about price of button-box + rim, and similar selection of the latter (basically offering a single selection). DD+ sounds best option of 15-18nm/1k, plus future implementation of "TrueForce" that made magic for Logi. LaPrima + formula rim is my second best (previously first) option. Will wait a few more months for reviews and QR2 pricing (so far it's crazy uncertain in Fanatec eco system)
really wish fanatec would come out with something a bit more modern for xbox. i really tried to justify the universal hub v2 on the black friday sales but just couldn't when competitors have hubs like these.
I’m saving up for the la prima base so a smaller (300mm or less) round wheel rim would be the ideal starter once I buy into the ecosystem. So much so that I wouldn’t even be interested in third party rims from there on out. My pathway would be base, button plate + ‘mini’, then after a shifter or e brake I would come back for either a C suede rim or the OG la prima formula from release…this company has shown to not only listen to the community but implement their input and address their shortcomings, gives me a little more trust in them compared to the complacency of Logitech/thrustmaster and the nightmares I hear from fanatec Reddit. Moza had me entertained but I have a hard time arguing against the quality for the price this ecosystem can give me access to, just feels (looks) levels better
i agree! For me i bought the formula forte wheel. And then i add the 330mm round wheel later on. So if i play formula, GT3, LMP etc i have a 290mm wheel. And for the street cars, rally and older race cars i can use the round wheel. What more do you need. About Moza, they are nice if you want the "cheap" option. But take the moza 12nm base. It is way less strong then the La prima is. Also quality control is lesser. Moza is nice if you want very low prices and don't mind having a lesser product.
They missed a few opportunities that will keep a lot of people away from their ecosystem I’m afraid. 330 mm is just to big but you already noticed that. And the orange accents are ruining it, at least for me. If they ever go full black on their stuff I’m coming onboard and buy everything from Asetek. Oww and a little bit less aggressive curve on top of their wheels/button boxes would be better to imo. The rpm lights look a bit weird like this.
The 150k Martindale rating seems a bit high. I would love to strip down a wheel and put the fabric under the martindale machine we have at work, unfortunately i dont have the money to strip a wheel 😂
I don't really get the idea that Fanatec is a closed/locked down ecosystem. The Podium hub costs the same as the Invicta hub and also allows the use of any wheel. The only difference is that Asetek has the USB passthrough, which admittedly is a great feature, but that doesn't mean Fanatec is a closed ecosystem. You also can't attach any wheel to an Asetek wheelbase without buying their hub. I'm ignoring the fact that Fanatec doesn't include the QR2 with the Podium hub at the moment.
I agree, I really like the ffb on the logitech base and ease of use. However I am frustrated with the lack of no eco system. Debating selling it and going asetek or simucube.
@@davebell771 looks like we have to wait till Oct 24 at the latest to see gear. Logitech will be simracing expo in Oct and they seem to be hinting they will have something by then. A rep on reddit has also advised that F1 wheel wheel will way under €500 under in response to soon anticipated 3drap wheel. Have definitely contemplated selling mine but figured would take massive loss given current eco-systen situation. Hopefully patience will be rewarded.
I didn't know that as it looks to be radio silence from logitech. I hear what you are saying about loosing finically in the current market and lack of ecosystem. October is a fair time out.. I am not sure I am that patient.
@@davebell771 logirich is head of simulation at Logitech and was on the launch vids for the dd. He is active on Reddit. Up until earlier this year they were pretty cagey but are not hinting a bit but still keeping cards close to their chase. Apparently a bit to expect this year including software but being vague (launch will fall somewhere between now and October). They have shared it's taken so long because their r&d (product development) is exhaustive to ensure good products. Yes waiting till then seems so far away especially if early adopter.
If they would come with h a clever quick release I'd give them a chance. But who wants to change rims like that? during a session? come on... you'll end up with more wheels anyway.
The design of the Buttonbox and Shifters is horrible for that Price and it is impossible to buy a Sparco or Omp for this Buttonbox. Looks like Wheel from Bandai Namco for a Tie Fighter .
I am not a fan of the blank plate look, it is like buying a lower spec car and you are reminded every time you get in the car that you could not afford a better car.
This is pretty cool stuff and im glad that there are more and more competitors to sim racing but Acetek is a shitty company that is holding back the AIO industry with patent trolling. Im glad i already have my csl DD
Its a bit of a polariser. Their reason for doing it this way makes sense, but of course it does also limit you to only being able to use their rims with their button boxes. But then there's always the universal hub too.
I had many Fanatec wheels in the past and now the Asetek formula wheel and the button box. I can report that they feel much better and are much more comfortable.
i was really doubting asetek of fanatec's new CS DD 12nm. But the problem with fanatec is that the side stuff is way to expensive. For example, you buy a 400 wheel wat is "oke" in quality. You get a free QR1. You want the QR2, you need 100 euro extra. Thats insane! Asetek gives a 400 euro wheel with free QR and way better quality. Shifter module of fanatec is also insane expensive etc.
Anecdotal but mine feels absolutely rock solid. Perhaps there are some QA issues with some units but I'm absolutely delighted with mine. Very satisfying to swap out wheels and no play. I do only have la prima base though so perhaps the high torque bases pose more of an issue
Name 1 thing fanajunk makes thats better then Asetek or Simucube for that matter? Ohhh but fana has console🤭so we better not talk about it or the console fanboys will get you
I prefer brushed aluminum over carbon fiber. It's more rigid and I prefer the extra weight since it results in a natural damping feel that filters never really get right. Asetek's logos and design philosophy isn't for me.
Dunno why their colour scheme and design have a toy vibe despite the premium materials.
Probably cause the black and orange is the same as toy/airsoft guns that have orange on the tip to show they aren't real.
I do wish they'd simplify the designs a bit. I think all the angles everywhere make their wheels look cluttered compared to competitors more elegant and naturally flowing designs. Cube COntrols are guilty of this too. Too much unnecessary complexity going on visually.
@boostedmedia I haven't seen Fanatic wheels in real life but a lot of them look toy like to me with there colouring.
I have the la Prima and it does look better in real life but I understand the criticism from others.
It was an amazing look for the Pedals tbh, and I get them wanting to somewhaz keep the color scheme they had there. But that orange and black just really destroys the looks of their wheels.
To me it has a 70's supercar vibe to the design and you either like it or don't. I myself went with the Simagic as for me, design vise they look definitelly up there with the best ones..
Micro Center is awesome. Wish we had one here in Arizona. I visited one in California a few months ago while on vacation and they had a rig set up for customers to try out with a Simucube wheel and pedal set up. Very cool.
Thanks Will, this was the detailed look at the new Asetek wheel rims I was waiting for and have placed my order for a La Prima button and the Orange D shaped rim with confidence armed with information I have gained after watching this video.
I was gonna go full La Prima, but was able to get a TK base open box for super cheap from Microcenter, so I went ahead and chucked what I saved into the round leather w/ Forte BB, and I'm absolutely loving it. Superb products and amazing feel. I hope you've found yourself equally pleased. I upgraded after 5 years on a T300, so I have no frame of reference on DD, but I can't imagine a 10-12nm kit gets any better than this. I watched a lot of sim racing garage reviews in addition to Will's and found reasons to avoid other bases, though I almost pulled the trigger on Alpha mini and likely would of if these wheels hadn't been released.
@@bonedawgstudio5649 I am still impressed with my wheel and pedal setup from Asetek mate and still finding ways it’s a step up from my original Accuforce DD wheel base. The D shaped rim has really helped with the immersion when racing GT style cars.
Yep not having round wheels a couple months ago is there only thing that kept me from upgrading to Asetek they only had F1 wheels but I wanted there la prima bundle so bad and the Tony Kanan one was only $800 for a full setup but didn't make a round wheel so I went Moza R12 with CRP pedals and CS wheel I really don't regret my decision but these new Asetek wheels look really good and it's priced well
coming from a 350mm wheel for rally, drift and roadcars and a CC f-pro for gt and formula cars, i've decided to jump into the asetek ecosystem with a forte wheelbase, a QR for the fpro and the 350mm wheel and i've also went ahead and got a laprima buttonbox with the comfort+ round wheel, thinking the 330mm will be better suited for rally and streetcars. my 350 wheel did not have any buttons so i was forced to use a rig mounted buttonbox for keybinds like brake bias or tcs etc. i'm still keeping it around for drifting since that's just playing around and i dont really need quick access to any buttons. Very keen to try out the new setup next week when i get it all installed. the laprima with 330mm wheel should be the weapon of choice for my upcoming mx5 cup league on i-racing early next year. just enough time to get to grips with all the new stuff, and to learn a bit of iracing as well since it's been over 6 years since i last had that software installed and i assume lots has changed.
Awesome video as always guys, thanks so much! Not gonna buy any of these but love watching anyway.
I'm really trying to like the design as I love the look of the rest of their gear, but there's something about those button boxes that just don't look right. Cant put my finger on it though. Definitely looks better on open wheels than closed.
Thanks Will. Great review as always. Wish we had Australian dollars comparison as it can vary a far bit from US dollars with shipping. 🤷♂️
It gets far too complicated with varying conversion rates so we just stick to listed prices. If a company lists AUD we try to include it.
I absolutely love Asetek's ecosystem and modularity of their designs. It is incredibly well thought out, and this is very difficult to achieve BERFORE releasing a product as opposed to doing things retroactively. Regardless; I ended up going with Simagic alpha mini and a GTS wheel because it was a few hundred bucks cheaper and I honestly don't see myself buying a ton of 3rd party wheels that would take advantage of the Asetek quick release. And the Alpha mini didn't require any extra mounts for my rig, so it'll be way easier for me to install.
Ecosystem...I can never hear that word often enough.....LOL
how its with mini after 2 month?
now i want to buy Asetek or Mini, what to choose?
I am still super happy with my alpha mini and GTS wheel! FFB Strength is more than I expected, and the level of detail compared to a belt driven wheel is impressive. I also love how it looks, such a small form factor and nice black aluminum casing. Highly recommend!@@sstetsiv
Yes. Been waiting for this review. 👏
To be fair, if all that was available when I bought the stuff for my rig 2 months ago, I might've gone for Asetek, but going with them (and LaPrima stuff was impossible to find through resellers, on Asetek site only) meant the formula-style wheel only for a while. Not the main stuff I drive at the moment.
Too bad I guess.
Great stuff nonetheless Will
Ya, this was a big concern for me because I love to drive rally games as well. I ended up only going Asetek because of the MicroCenter "TK Bundle" which is basically a La Prima/Forte hybrid Tony Kanaan signature bundle for $800. With the new WRC game out, I've been anxiously waiting for these wheels and some other accessories like handbrake/shifter.
It's been a good product and I'm happy with their stuff, but I'm also NOT driving one of my favorite styles of racing because the ecosystem isn't fully flushed out yet. So I can't blame you for going elsewhere.
Comparing them to the podium rally module would have been more appropriate
I just got mine (La Prima and round leather) and I used your code. $362 delivered!! Thanks Will!!
Wait your name is Will? Same bro! 😂 another great video, ive fallen in love with this channel
Asetek is really nailing it! One of the best FFB systems, great quality products and prices. Very open eco system with thirth party but also inside the Asetek products themself. Its so convinient to switch between al thise rims, button boxes etc. Also alot of upgrade paths. And for the people that complain about the orange/looks. Must say that i love them, they really growe on me. But also there will be different color sets in the near future. From Asetek themself but also from thirth party producers. I don't know that is not to like about them! So much better then the fanatec i head before. By fanatec if you want something, you always need a extra hub like product that is way to expensive! Everything is closed as well.
Their ecosystem is open only one way, though. At least with Fanatec you can use pretty much any rim with standard 6x70mm bolt pattern. Asetek makes a proprietary rim instead. As someone who's not planning to go Asetek (for a few reasons) I still like the look of the round rim and would love to buy it IF it was a standard rim, but I can't.
Not offering the paddle accessories for the LA Prima wheels feels like a missed opportunity. People on a budget are more likely to purchase accessories down the line and most won't be tempted into an upsell to a Forte wheel.
I do agree with you.. I am waiting on my La Prima to arrive in next few days It would have been nice to have the option to add the extra paddles and overall they would make more sales, like you said. As for me, I will skip upgrading to the Forte button box, and wait for the invicta. Asetek mentioned in replies they will be launching 2 invicta wheels. So my next upgrades will be the wheel and upgrade to Forte base. But overtime
Im so pissed I missed the TK Asetek bundle at micro center for $309 a week or so ago. They were honoring their mistake. That was like $700 off.
IMO Asetek dropped a massive clanger here, all 330mm rims, I wouldn't want any of them. If I switched to Asetek it would only be for the wheel base (and possibly pedals) then I would be looking at 3rd party steering wheels. It's nice they are producing quality products, I just wonder how much market research they did?
Man they really need to hire a proper product designer. I almost pulled the trigger for Asetek, but man the initial wheel bundles with the toy like design and tacky rubber handles just turned me off... Nice to see they have wheels with good to touch materials now, even if the hub design still looks cheap despite being good quality.
Congrats to 300k subs! :)
I want that closed D + Forte button box + Prima wheelbase so bad. I think that's my dream goal for next year if I'm still into all of this.
Thanks for all the info around this!
Why wait, get LaPrima with basic formula rim (same features) and upgrade or mod it to 18nm.
@@unotoli Haha it’s tempting but I need to be ‘financially responsible’ for a bit. That’s good advice though.
Edited: And what I meant to say was Forte button box. I want the option of clutch paddles. I actually want the Prima wheelbase. Higher Nm is lost on me as I usually opt for weaker FFB.
@@KrsJin apparently you'll be able to upgrade the la prima wheel to forte spec which then would allow you to add the clutch paddles.
@@unotoli I haven't seen Asetek release any upgrades to the LaPrima base yet. Is there a mod I am not aware of?
I still cant find suitable D shape leather options wheel for my Simucube 2 Pro, and button plate from HRS. Doing my head in after 2 years
Happy with my Logitech Pro (I wish there were more wheels and a pro shifter) but I’ll watch this anyways cause I enjoy learning about all the different brands
what I don't get is why the quick release has to be $150 / €150 when they can make an entire button box for $280 / €280. IMO that quick release (while very nice) is way overpriced
Hope the next generation will have numbers around the rotary encoders although I would not buy another wheel when the first one is still working. At least some stickers to attach could do the trick.
And yes, some don't like the toy look. If they would improve this they had so much more customers
That’s why we made the universal QR for people to use their wheel of preference. We have sold quite a few and if the design was to your preference, then perhaps our current customers would not have bought.
If one steering wheel manufacturer had it all right, no competitor would have existed by now.
Point is taste is very subjective and instead of trying to please all with our design, we instead is pleasing all by giving them the option of using the wheel THEY like the most 👍
An Invicta button box with a D-Shaped suede wheel.
You do this Asetek, I’ll definitively buy.
So.. the question I had when I first saw these.. given the more cost overall.. what do these do that the stand alone wheels dont? It's not like you're going to buy a few different wheels, one button base, and swap them.. they dont quickly swap.. so it would be a bit of a pain in the ass to undo the 6 or so screws to put a different wheel on the one base. Or is that the actual intention? I assume the primary point of the two pieces instead of all in one like everyone else has, is to allow you to maybe choose a round wheel instead of the other styles for the particular button base? I just dont know that I see what the advantage is for spending more on this setup if you plan to get similar wheel/base anyway? Plus, some of the fancier wheels have OLED screens and other things in them and more buttons, etc on them.
I also don't get it honestly, if you had a fast swap option like a quick release, that would be awesome. But these are just screws 😅
Covered in the video. It’s not done this way for quick swapping. It’s done to allow more space for buttons without having to have the box sit in front of the rim like the Fanatec rally button box does.
@@boostedmediaYes, and also you DO have the option to switch if you for example drive one type of cars for a while then want to switch to another and drive that for a while. Having options is never wrong.
Crazy how competitive pedals and wheels have become...
i love Asetek, how they attach to the feedback of the community, their quality, their transparency.
I love my Forte Wheelbox and Pedals. But their Wheels-Designs ... i still cant get used to it, even after using my Forte Wheel for 10 months.
It works fine, Buttonplacement is fine, it feels good. But the overall aesthetik is a bit off and i read that under every video to their wheels in the comments.
I hoped the new wheels would catch me more but it seems i have to took a thirdparty wheel with a quickrelease adapter.
Keep up the good work
i love the black and orange design, my whole pc setup is like that. So it would fit perfectly :)
At 7:00 - Why would you not compare ClubSport hub rather than CSL hub? My reason for asking is the price and build quality are a bit more similar on those two options.
Asetek gear is nice and is a proper competitor. But yeah I share the same notion as to why they look a bit more toyish.
Even the Fanatec Mclaren GT3 Replica which is made of plastic, look more genuine wheel. (I mean duh its a replica but still)
The Simagic GT NEO also looks more real life wheel.
Competition and options are good for us consumers.
Fanatec were looking like a no Brainer till their price hike. Considering Asetek now.
I was wondering if they are going to release any wheels or button box within the Invicta name like their base and pedals? Overall I really like their Forte lineup but would be nice to know before purchasing.
Yes with a display apparently.
There will be two different Invicta wheels. All rims and and grips cross compatible with Forte/La Prima.
@@AsetekSimSports Do you know when UK stockists will get the rims and button boxes? Thanks.
Should i go with comfort plus or leather, i want to drive without gloves most of the time ?
Why no one puts the Simagic GT Pro Hub in comparison with the Forte Hub? It has the same features, it's cheaper, and comes with dual clutch included. It's 479 usd (if you include a wheel rim, 390 without a rim) against 499 for the Forte. The Simagic offer seems quite better in terms of looks and features.
Haven’t finished reviewing their stuff yet. Once we have we will start including it
Simagic also includes Chinese spyware and quality! Don't forget this. ;) I prefer Danish Viking quality instat.
I understand where your critisims and scepticism is coming from. But China is providing nearly all small and server motors for most car brands worldwide. It is not magic stuff they do and quality problems are not a real problem Simagic users have to deal with more then with Fanatec for example. And spyware...i dont know. I m dar more afraid of data krakens like Google or Meta.
that 330mm sizing could be a deal breaker. I'm surprised they didn't design the button boxes with 300mm or 310mm in mind too.
Very good review.
I really don't get why they don't make them as a bundle. I just want a round rim with the base (La Prima), without anything else...
Toller Rewiev bis auf die Kratzer.... das ist mir beim APM Paddels auch passiert bis ich Tape verwendet habe. Das Design ist Typisch Scandinavisch so Saab und Volvo Style eben.
Mir muss es Optisch auch gefallen, in der Hinsicht ist es nicht mein Geschmack.
Kenne zwei Leute die hatten die Invicta Pedale, haben alle beide wieder verkauft und sich andere Hersteller gekauft.
I wish they would make a 300mm rim and also a formula style one.
The button box still look like cheap plastic while the quality actually might be better than it looks. The rims look really nice though. Wish they would offer a third party button box for other bases
is your emira a v6 or the amg i4?
In February I was debating between asetek and Logitech.
I chose Logitech
The FFB is great but the lack of ecosystem support has been terrible.
Wish I would have went with asetek
I'm in the same boat. Bought into the Logitech G Pro system, with the hopes of having more wheel options by now. Sadly, not yet. I've heard this is changing soon though. Logitech is aware people are not happy with the current offerings, and hinted that more wheel options are coming 'soon' (tm). I guess we'll see. I love the Logitech G Pro wheel + pedals. But more wheel options is something I really miss.
Sell it and switch?
Hi Will ;) In one of your videos(or this video?), you mentioned stickers for Asetek wheels. Unfortunately, I can't find anything. I kind of like the idea of a single wheel hub for different rims, but I'm not a big fan of Asetek's wheel look.
Can anyone here direct me to a right place? ;)
Man as a soon-to-be DD2 owner, I'm jelly lmao
Why didn’t you guys compare the Formula 2.5v? I feel like that’s a very quality wheel and cheaper than these wheels.
I know the CSL is similar cause it’s “open eco” but I still think fanstecs entire eco system should be considered since that’s what makes their eco system so strong when other companies only have like 4 or 5 wheels
The only thing that puts me off about Asetek is that - like Fanatec - they have at least some of their production done in China. Moza, Simagic, and Logitech are all actual Chinese companies.
The only 2 brands i know of that are not tied to China, is Thrustmaster (100% US) and Simucube (Finnish company, produced in Italy). As expensive as Simucube is, at least it only supports allies, and its WAY more premium then the Thrustmaster DD wheel. Im not sure how long the US will remain an ally, but at least i dont expect them to become my enemies anytime soon, so for now im ok with buying from them too, but not AS much as im ok with Simucube 🥰
If you add together the employers tax, and the tax employees pay, and the VAT, then where i live, that adds up to around 67% that goes to the government...
as Asetek sponsor you over 2023 i didnt think you can do objective opinion, where i was wrong, good job
I wish the branding was a little bit more subtle, like on the sides of the button boxes rather than right in your face.
The Stickers are nicely presented?
Yeah, right, about as nicely presented as a chicken on an indonesian market.
But a great Review as always, of course! 👍 Especially interesting regarding the comparison to Fanatec.
All rims are quite the same, yet when assembled it costs more than a standalone pick.
Recent DD+ preview on this channel gave me more hope in terms of telemetry >> additional FF
(AccuForce and recently Logi with TrueForce tech) AND their slew rate graphs..
Sadly, no CZcams channel that capable of getting all wheelbases for review makes a direct measurment comparison ;(
On other hand, their quick-release adapter is quite user friendly.
Still, could be better if wheel part would be a once-piece, with all mechanics on base side.
One more frustration - why they are not using a quarter-turn or one-touch fasteners to fix those Rims? No tool, quick swap solution. Would hate to mod it myself (I am still not decided between DD+ and Asetek Forte).
Clubsport wheels are not cheaper, if you compare csl wheels... Why would you buy dd+ if you can get g29 cheaper? /S
And if you are talking about the button box, count buttons alone. Materials are top notch, visually ppl can be upset tho... Idc I watch the road ahead when I'm racing and buttons are handy.
@@The33FunI agree about buttons and especially encoders. My concern was about price of button-box + rim, and similar selection of the latter (basically offering a single selection).
DD+ sounds best option of 15-18nm/1k, plus future implementation of "TrueForce" that made magic for Logi.
LaPrima + formula rim is my second best (previously first) option. Will wait a few more months for reviews and QR2 pricing (so far it's crazy uncertain in Fanatec eco system)
really wish fanatec would come out with something a bit more modern for xbox. i really tried to justify the universal hub v2 on the black friday sales but just couldn't when competitors have hubs like these.
Just commenting to make sure you're aware Asetek's products don't work on Xbox.
@@boostedmedia yep.. sadly i know i think its time to build a pc for the rig
I’m saving up for the la prima base so a smaller (300mm or less) round wheel rim would be the ideal starter once I buy into the ecosystem. So much so that I wouldn’t even be interested in third party rims from there on out. My pathway would be base, button plate + ‘mini’, then after a shifter or e brake I would come back for either a C suede rim or the OG la prima formula from release…this company has shown to not only listen to the community but implement their input and address their shortcomings, gives me a little more trust in them compared to the complacency of Logitech/thrustmaster and the nightmares I hear from fanatec Reddit. Moza had me entertained but I have a hard time arguing against the quality for the price this ecosystem can give me access to, just feels (looks) levels better
Thank you 🙏
i agree! For me i bought the formula forte wheel. And then i add the 330mm round wheel later on. So if i play formula, GT3, LMP etc i have a 290mm wheel. And for the street cars, rally and older race cars i can use the round wheel. What more do you need.
About Moza, they are nice if you want the "cheap" option. But take the moza 12nm base. It is way less strong then the La prima is. Also quality control is lesser. Moza is nice if you want very low prices and don't mind having a lesser product.
Is that a Seneca blue Emira hiding back there?
It is indeed :)
They missed a few opportunities that will keep a lot of people away from their ecosystem I’m afraid. 330 mm is just to big but you already noticed that. And the orange accents are ruining it, at least for me. If they ever go full black on their stuff I’m coming onboard and buy everything from Asetek. Oww and a little bit less aggressive curve on top of their wheels/button boxes would be better to imo. The rpm lights look a bit weird like this.
Can you review the simtrecs pro pedal gt
Got a lot of other reviews to get through at the moment but I'll see what I can sort out. you're not the first to request this :)
The 150k Martindale rating seems a bit high. I would love to strip down a wheel and put the fabric under the martindale machine we have at work, unfortunately i dont have the money to strip a wheel 😂
Do the button boxes come with labeling stickers?
The Forte does and there will be sheets available for La Prima too.
I really want to buy the Pagani pedals, but, are they functionally the same as Invicta? Looking forward to the future Asetek lineup.
Yes they’re functionally the same as Invicta.
@@boostedmedia thank you
These look more like toys than sim gear, not sure what Asetek was thinking with this one.
I don't really get the idea that Fanatec is a closed/locked down ecosystem. The Podium hub costs the same as the Invicta hub and also allows the use of any wheel. The only difference is that Asetek has the USB passthrough, which admittedly is a great feature, but that doesn't mean Fanatec is a closed ecosystem. You also can't attach any wheel to an Asetek wheelbase without buying their hub.
I'm ignoring the fact that Fanatec doesn't include the QR2 with the Podium hub at the moment.
Can you relay to Microcenter that their website needs work when it comes to sorting and filtering sim racing items? Thanks.
Booted media rocks man
Wondering if there will be a invicta button box
There will be. Just like Forte/La Prima, one for Formula/LMP and one for GT/Rally etc.
Black and Orange is the best combination for a BUGATTI CHIRON SUPERSPORT 300+
What colour is your Bugatti?
@@boostedmedia 😂😂😂 I got many different colours….in Forza Horizon 5 😅😅😅
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why cant the uk have a micro center
Drink everytime the allen key hits the magnet 🍺
Unfortunately it seems like Asetek and microcenter are no longer working together. No longer any stock at either chicago location.
Geez, compared to Fanatec (especially during the last black friday sale) these are so bloody expensive 😅
Love the video as always, but... "La Prima" HAHAHHAHAHA, being latin american, dude that's a funny name wtf xD
As I see other brands release new rims...the more and more I regret my decision to get the logitech DD pro.
I agree, I really like the ffb on the logitech base and ease of use. However I am frustrated with the lack of no eco system.
Debating selling it and going asetek or simucube.
@@davebell771 looks like we have to wait till Oct 24 at the latest to see gear. Logitech will be simracing expo in Oct and they seem to be hinting they will have something by then. A rep on reddit has also advised that F1 wheel wheel will way under €500 under in response to soon anticipated 3drap wheel. Have definitely contemplated selling mine but figured would take massive loss given current eco-systen situation. Hopefully patience will be rewarded.
I didn't know that as it looks to be radio silence from logitech.
I hear what you are saying about loosing finically in the current market and lack of ecosystem. October is a fair time out.. I am not sure I am that patient.
@@davebell771 logirich is head of simulation at Logitech and was on the launch vids for the dd. He is active on Reddit. Up until earlier this year they were pretty cagey but are not hinting a bit but still keeping cards close to their chase. Apparently a bit to expect this year including software but being vague (launch will fall somewhere between now and October). They have shared it's taken so long because their r&d (product development) is exhaustive to ensure good products. Yes waiting till then seems so far away especially if early adopter.
They need to hire a designer
If they would come with h a clever quick release I'd give them a chance. But who wants to change rims like that? during a session? come on...
you'll end up with more wheels anyway.
The design of the Buttonbox and Shifters is horrible for that Price and it is impossible to buy a Sparco or Omp for this Buttonbox. Looks like Wheel from Bandai Namco for a Tie Fighter .
Just awaiting console compatibility
I am not a fan of the blank plate look, it is like buying a lower spec car and you are reminded every time you get in the car that you could not afford a better car.
Haha I said exactly that in the video.
These would be my go to if they weren’t so terribly ugly
Lmao 😂
most people don't go asetek because they are fucking expensive lol, the majority of the sim market is held by Logi and Thrustmaster for a reason
not making these hubs universal fit on real wheels is a giant miss
Damn, the mans clapping per minute is off the charts!
@boostedmedia what's that beauty behind u?
take a shot every time he says ecosystem
You'll get wasted a lot faster if you take a shot every time I say "aswell", "and things like that" and "but I'll talk more about that later". ;)
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This is pretty cool stuff and im glad that there are more and more competitors to sim racing but Acetek is a shitty company that is holding back the AIO industry with patent trolling. Im glad i already have my csl DD
On the face of it I much prefer other button module offers where you can BYO wheel rim. The Fanatec rally button module looks a lot more appealing.
Its a bit of a polariser. Their reason for doing it this way makes sense, but of course it does also limit you to only being able to use their rims with their button boxes. But then there's always the universal hub too.
I had many Fanatec wheels in the past and now the Asetek formula wheel and the button box. I can report that they feel much better and are much more comfortable.
i was really doubting asetek of fanatec's new CS DD 12nm. But the problem with fanatec is that the side stuff is way to expensive. For example, you buy a 400 wheel wat is "oke" in quality. You get a free QR1. You want the QR2, you need 100 euro extra. Thats insane! Asetek gives a 400 euro wheel with free QR and way better quality. Shifter module of fanatec is also insane expensive etc.
ECOSYSTEM....
ECOSYSTEM....
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Is Asetek’s customer support better than Moza? Spent over $2k with Moza and they can’t even reply to a ticket.
So what about their very faulty quick releases that snap?
Anecdotal but mine feels absolutely rock solid. Perhaps there are some QA issues with some units but I'm absolutely delighted with mine. Very satisfying to swap out wheels and no play. I do only have la prima base though so perhaps the high torque bases pose more of an issue
Was fixed quickly after first release, with a much stronger version.
I hate Micro Center. They are always receiving new sim racing gear and I can't stop buying it.
First one))) nice review as usual mate
Name 1 thing fanajunk makes thats better then Asetek or Simucube for that matter? Ohhh but fana has console🤭so we better not talk about it or the console fanboys will get you
The design is straight up horrible. Looks like Nerf Toys
broken qr and breaking wrists? and hiding the problems and posts online i hear...
Asetek Wheels look extremely ugly and toy like
I prefer brushed aluminum over carbon fiber. It's more rigid and I prefer the extra weight since it results in a natural damping feel that filters never really get right. Asetek's logos and design philosophy isn't for me.
their colour scheme really sucks.
Still look horrendous though.. worst looking wheels on the market
Ill tell you whats holding me off, That terrible colour orange buttons and orange accent.