PPG Waveterm A + Wave 2.2 Wavetable Synthesizer System demo
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PPG Waveterm A and Wave 2.2 Wavetable Synthesizer from the year 1982.
The Waveterm is the heart of the legendary PPG system and based on an old german computer called Eltec Eurocom II with Motorola 6809 processor.
- creation of Waves and Wavetables
- fourier analysis / resonator
- additive synthesis
- 8 bit Sampling for the WAVE 2.2
- sequencer / event generator
- storage of sounds on 8" disc
this first demo video shows only a few functions (creation of waves, wavetables) of the Waveterm A. more coming soon.
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The PPG wave 2.2 Synthesizer from the year 1982 is one of most fascinating synthesizers ever. You can find a lot demo videos, sound tutorials about the Wave and the Waveterm in the PPG wave playlist.
The PPG playlist: czcams.com/play/PLe08Lbpy8pPYKXe4iF4ANVVO6C6qz53WZ.html
I really love the 8-bit artifact noises on the low notes. It sounds so electronic and sinister.
Man, getting some EPCOT Center vibes from some of these waveforms. Really taking me back to childhood.
Amazing slice of history
this is a beautiful instrument, maybe one of most interesting digital synth
Wavetable scanning on this sounds so distinctive. very nice.
OMG! we are back in the early 1980s!!!!!!!!!!!!
1940's
Love it! I've never seen such a device, I love on-screen frequency/samplers synthesis.
There were only three hundred Waveterms made, both in the A and the B model. Both run Flex OS. One of the most interesting features of the Waveterm is its capability of generating a digital waveform based on a recorded audio sample.
Thank you for sharing this! Thank
You too for hooking me up with prophet 5 sounds so I can get it back up and running. Happy Holidays and thank you for being here and sharing with us.
The "glassy" evolving sounds are not filter sweeps, they are the sound of sweeping through a whole wavetable..and at the end of the wavetables you have some waves that don't glide into eachother smoothly, creating a glitchy madness. And you can choose the start and end point of the sweep with envelopes. Blofeld can do this too. Wavetables just contain loads of similar harmonics, one after the other. If you stop at one, you get the sound of THAT wave in the table, if you sweep you get them all
the most wonderful waveterm demonstration I've seen - thanks!
this machine is so characterful:D
Absolutely gorgeous!Sound and vision!
Even the disc loading at the beginning sounds like music to my ears..!
Excellent demo Marko :-) I really like the way you added the bootup to start the demo. Wonderful synth!
Very, very cool. I'm glad you got the system.
Wonderful sounds from a machine that was way ahead of its time and a perfect demo. Thanks for sharing this as it is unlikely that I will ever be in a position to buy one so "window shopping" is all I can do.
It's one hell of a powerful and amazing synthesizer!
What a complete experience it must be to play it!
o yes. :D
What a nice tool for sound generating with very interesting functions!!!! Thanks!!!
this looks so cool.
Klasse Demo von dem Teil und natürlich fanthastischer Sound.
@amnuzzy Yeah, the Waldorf PPG Wave 3.V plugin finally provides a very good recreation of the Wave 2.2/2.3 sound (according to a Wave 2.2 owner on KVR and based on having heard so many recordings of the hardware). I think 3.V is one of the most characterful-sounding software synths out there right now. That said, having lusted after a PPG Wave/Waveterm system as a boy, it would be great fun to have the real deal sitting in my recording room in all its deliciously retro glory.
wow you really went all hi-tech for this one! and it sounds great
Whoaaaaa... that is a big sound! Amazing
So cool.
I really enjoyed that video. It brought back lots of memories. Remember E-mu Emulator and also the Synclavier from New England Digital. WOW 8" floppy disk, I forgot all about them. Probably still have some of them around here somewhere. Thanks again that was fun to watch.
Fascinating
Another excellent demo of a classic machine !!! 5***** ; )
sounds like the sound track to every 80s movie.
now thats fkn awesome!!!
very very nice, there are no vids about the ppg waveterm on youtube, thanks!
Great sounds! Could You compare PPG Waveterm with another digital legend - Fairlight CMI, mainly in term of waveshaping possibilities?
Reflex ..."Politics Of Dancing". Sure sounds like the synth they used for the intro. Fun stuff!
Wie Geil ist das denn???
Mit dieser 8 Zoll Floppy Station ein echter Hingucker
und was für Technikfans pur......na und der wahrhaft göttliche Klang
erinnert mich an die guten alten Waldorfs.
Danke fürs hochladen.
magnifico!
PPG音も見た目もカッコイイ大好き！
Great sounds.R
Really great. I would love to get one of those. Maybe someday.. :)
Ich kenne zwar den Sound allgemein von älteren Synths nicht, aber der hier klingt legendär! Geiles Teil ^^
Great learning tool.
Thanks for watching!
@@retrosound72 The pleasure is all mine😀
I wish I hadn't passed on the chance to get a full wave2.3+waveterm in Norway a few years ago..but it was ridiculously expensive, so there was no way I could buy it.
I got my Waldorf Blofeld to sate the wavetable gear lust for a while at least. It has mostly the same functionality as the ppg wave, but with different wavetables..only a few are copied from the ppg wave. And a very well modelled PPG Wave lowpass filter too, according to the reviews.
It was a well known megasynth in the 80's. From vintagesynth:
David Bowie, Eat-Static, Electronic Dream Planet, The Fixx, Trevor Horn, Jean Michel Jarre, Art of Noise, Rush, Depeche Mode, Gary Numan, Robert Palmer, Psychadelic Furs, Talk Talk, The Cars, Ultravox, Steve Winwood, Rush, Stevie Nicks, Thomas Dolby, Pet Shop Boys, Mike and the Mechanics, and Stevie Wonder.
Keep in mind that the waveterm is not standard equipment, just the synth :)
Basically Depeche Mode use it during Construction Time again and up to Music for the masses (PPG 2 in particular)
Erstaunlich Retro-Maschine.
it looks too cool)
and the smaller peaks and valleys in between represent the various harmonics.
@retrosound72 Frankie goes to Hollywood und Trevor Horn können nicht irren :-) Ich hatte damals das Glück, in meinen Ferien immer in Waldorf zu helfen (Chips tauschen und so'n Zeug) und weiss nicht mehr, wie oft ich das verdammte Demostück geladen, die Studiotür zugezogenund mir damit Gänsehaut verschafft habe. Heute lacht man drüber, aber das war damals unvorstellbar, was die Kisten drauf hatten.
Beautiful!!!!! *___*
@bmd77 blofeld is a very good choice for this kind of synthesis, it has most of the ppg wave features, a modelled ppg wave lowpass filter, plus a big effects section. Although the sound isn't exactly the same, it is what you make of it. You can do the same kind of harmonics sweeps and beatiful, ever-evolving pads. Plus it contains some wavetables from the wave itself and other waldorf wavetable synths.
Genial¡¡¡
thats the second half of the wave. if u imagine left and right as time, and up and down as amplitude, the highest and lowest points make the peaks of the wave... that is to say, the maximum values of both positive and negative voltage. to translate this into sound, the speaker cone extends all of the way out at the highest point, and retracts all the way back at the lowest point.
I did a research paper on synths for my English 101 class. I wrote about this synth. I got an A on that paper.
...and there it grows into sight, the Megastructure that is Tyrell Corp. HQ.
It scares the shit out of me, to think what will happen once your disks finally fail (which, given the gaussian tolerances of 8" media formatted MFM, should start making themselves really apparent, very soon. )
@retrosound72 Und das Schlimmste ist, dass ich es auch noch richtig gut finde! ;)
BEAUTIFUL demo. Are those the famous Upper Waves you scanned before sampling? Or were they Lower Waves? Also, someone gave a niice tip on the Waldorf forum some time ago about using 'modifiers' to get that brilliant coarse 8-bit shimmer from table scans :) Thx for sharing the video.
Wie schön ist dieser Leser Ploppy Acht-Zoll-Video. Herzlichen Glückwunsch kannte ihn nicht.
Interesting machine marco, another one for your wonderful collection! Tangerine dream must have used this a lot in the early 80's, I hear very familiar sounds/patches . How many voices polyphony was it? Thankyou as always for giving us the demo:)
Mick.
@bigblockelectra It allowed you to edit Waveforms and sample your own sounds. Nevertheless, it was wayyy expensive and hard to master. So most of the people relied on the builtin stuff in the Wave Synths itself.
another blue synth lol as the raven... excellent sound
HELL YEA CHILLY AMAN
Meine Güte, ist das nerdy! :D ;)
@ojay2001 so in other words, you needed the computer to shape the waveforms unlike synths like the minimoog where you could modify the decay, attack, etc...or can you also do that with the PPG by itself?
Cool demo...
But, with all these demo... When will you open a synth museum ?? :oD
Haha...great sounds when its booting! Klik klakk klak klik...lovely machine
yes that's all true glen,however there was only 1 digital synth on market,then and now that could give "Kinetic" waveforms not "static" like the ppg,and that was the "GDS" and the "Synergy" both based on the "Bell Labs" digital synthesizer.with those synths u could control "Frequency,Amplitude and Phase" all at the same time,thus allowing u to control sound in 2 dimensions,thus making the sound "Kinetic" motion over time,as opposed to "static" motionless over time.
Cool!!! Can you do sampling with it and use sampled waves as source?
I remember back in the days we scrapped tons of Waveterms and PPG keyboards at the scrapyard, some used for target practice back then. If Only I knew they would be worth money back then.
Some explanations would be nice!
nicht das der Stand unter der TOLLEN Last zusammenbricht! Geiles Teil!
OMG!!! i LOVE every sound that synth makes! O_O how much did it cost? i need to have one! :P
Wow a lot of stuff to a keyboard!
gibt es ähnliche alternativen mit 3,5" laufwerk?
The waveforms always appear inverted and reversed after the midpoint, like the second half of the wave is just the first half flipped. Is this a PPG thing to save memory by only storing half of the wave in memory?
Oh gosh, you're right! It just seemed smaller in the video :)) Right :)
@retrosound72 Wow it looks and sounds awesome.
How much did it cost?
mmmm, tasty vintage sound... xD
Sounds like Tangerine Dream!
Any videos of the PPG REALIZER ???
@bigblockelectra No, that was possible from the Wave alone. But it was a real pain in the a..., considering there was ony a 2 Lines Dot matrix Display. Although backlit (which was absolutely hightech back these days) you can imagine that it was not as intuitive as seeing the waveform. change before your eyes. Also, it was much much easier to get factory sounds from floppy rather than from Cassette Player. :-) Last, but not least, editing sequences also was a lot easier with the terminal.
Personally, I would NOT put the Waveterm on the Wave's top surface. A lighter keyboard, laptop or smaller devices are fine, but that weight might really put some strain on the irreplaceable cards and their pins/connectors on the motherboard.
Please be careful - it's not nearly the same as sitting the Fairlight's monitor on top its heavy duty wooden casing.
is the top computer part required? what does that do?
@DJDrDerek
yeahh and TV series.
Never seen this "machine" ;D
do some complex fourier transforms maybe????
Just like fairlight emulator and synclavier I seen on the system video David frank play on the ppg waveform
Holy fuck
Ist das nur was für den absoluten Synthfreak oder auch für den semifortgeschrittenen Anfänger bedienbar? Ich finde die grafische Oberfläche sehr interessant, da kann man ohne Osci den Sound sehen und vielleicht besser nachvollziehen, was man mit dem Sound anstellt.
Demo hat mir sehr gefallen.
8" really!
5,25 is Waveterm B
thank you :)
Sie ersten Sounds .. ein Tangerine Dream-Flash ...
How is this controlled? MIDI? Proprietary connection m the Wave?
Hmmm... so amongst American inventors of the synthesizers, and the Japanese bringing them to the masses, the Australian and German synthesizers are still the best. No wonder.
The disk is 5.25" and not 8", right? 5.25 or 5 1/4 as it was called. Nice demo however :) Keep up the good work!
Wird ein Testbericht über das Waveterm auch bei Amazona erscheinen?
I know you're playing the Waveterm A but can you also play the Wave 2.2 on it's own?
The sound is the wave. The waveterm control only the wave.
Hey, do you need the Wave 2.2 to playback sounds from the waveterm? or could any keyboard do? Also do you share sounds? or sell?
yes the Waveterm is only the programmer and control unit for the wave 2.2 . the Waveterm works only with the wave synthesizer.
***** I see. Whats the value of both these days? I looked around there are none for sale ATM.
the problem you find no WT. wave 2.2 5000-6000 $ Waveterm 4000 $
***** So depressed that i cant find one. Maybe one day!
If you want one badly, buy the PPG wave 3.V. Also get Nave and Wavegenerator for the iPad
@ojay2001 Da ist es um so unverständlicher das Waldorf hier die Idee des PPG Wave & Waveterm nicht zuende gedacht hat. Auf der Messe so große Sprüche geklopft aber dann tote Hose. Was ist ein Wavetablesynth ohne Editor.:-(((((((((((((((((((((((((((
3:00-3:30 Sound like an Black Celebration of DM
:)
Hi Marko, der Waveterm ist ein cooles Teil... könntest Du mit dem Sequenzer und den Samples des Waveterm ein Arrangement erstellen, so "Propaganda"-like? Wäre der Hammer!
At 2:00 sounds like the sound from Labirynth. I bet that thing is as heavy as a small elaphant! probably uses as much metal to build one of those as a modern day mini coupe LMAO! AWESOME SOUNDS though....you just cant get those sounds unless the synth is as old as dirt itself and weighs about 1000lbs.