Apple drops ban hammer on Epic Games over mean tweet

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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
  • The Digital Markets Act in the EU has caused widespread changes in big tech at companies like Apple, Google, Amazon, and Meta. Recently, Apple banned Epic Games in the EU and possibly broke the law by violating DMA.
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  • @Fireship
    @Fireship  Před 2 měsíci +2881

    🚨 Update: Epic was unbanned after agreeing to no more mean tweets.

    • @Komeuppance
      @Komeuppance Před 2 měsíci +169

      Does sarcasm qualify as "mean"?

    • @VivekPayasi
      @VivekPayasi Před 2 měsíci +212

      No more mean tweets?! That sucks! So they are giving up their freedom of speech

    • @dpdmadushan
      @dpdmadushan Před 2 měsíci +4

      is this qualify as sarcasm

    • @wlockuz4467
      @wlockuz4467 Před 2 měsíci +56

      Does this mean Apple gets away with violating DMA, even if it was for a brief period?

    • @YonutDonut
      @YonutDonut Před 2 měsíci +2

      mEan btw

  • @chrisjsewell
    @chrisjsewell Před 2 měsíci +7483

    The EU isn’t perfect, but their push back against big tech is really impressive 💪

    • @ZeroKelvin0K
      @ZeroKelvin0K Před 2 měsíci +199

      As a Swiss, I grumble and agree

    • @glowiedetector
      @glowiedetector Před 2 měsíci +15

      @@ZeroKelvin0K why grumble? xd

    • @QuantPhilosopher89
      @QuantPhilosopher89 Před 2 měsíci +176

      Not that impressive considering none of the tech giants are from the EU.

    • @malgerx4295
      @malgerx4295 Před 2 měsíci +298

      ​@@QuantPhilosopher89Spotify is😂

    • @matonolo
      @matonolo Před 2 měsíci +133

      That is why revolutionary technology companies are no longer born in Europe.
      Also Europe is the region that grows the least in the world. Enjoy your statism and regulation.

  • @ayoubachak2154
    @ayoubachak2154 Před 2 měsíci +2285

    Apple will literally add a fee for anything

    • @YonutDonut
      @YonutDonut Před 2 měsíci +193

      you can't mention them! Sir you need to pay 500$ for mentioning Apple.

    • @ayoubachak2154
      @ayoubachak2154 Před 2 měsíci +18

      @@YonutDonut 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @FeloCoptic
      @FeloCoptic Před 2 měsíci +21

      "Core Technology? There is a tax for that"

    • @SkamanSamTyler
      @SkamanSamTyler Před 2 měsíci +25

      This is the reason I switched to Linux. Apple used to really support third-party developers, but Jobs shut that down soon after being reinstated as CEO. They moved everything behind a "Apple Developer" paywall and charged a 300usd fee for lifetime membership, on top of an annual 100usd fee for access to their docs - the same docs they had been giving away for free for over a decade. Within 6months, they removed the lifetime fee and kept the annual fee, but it was far too late. I was the biggest Apple fanboy but I feel they stabbed me in the back so fuck 'em. I switched to Linux and never looked back. I used to be able to build computers out of literal trash that could run linux and Apple was charging an arm and a leg for just the privilege of saying you like them.

    • @docmars
      @docmars Před 2 měsíci +17

      I hope that one day, Apple's "it's a privilege to dev for us" mentality bites them HARD.

  • @Blue2x2x
    @Blue2x2x Před 2 měsíci +1694

    1980's apple: "Think differently"
    2020's apple: "Get your Mom an iPhone"

    • @BeefIngot
      @BeefIngot Před 2 měsíci +76

      Think differently only works when you arent relying on psyoping children into bullying each other for the profits of your brand.

    • @commentfailedtopost
      @commentfailedtopost Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@@BeefIngotIt's apple's fault people are idiots?

    • @Granolora
      @Granolora Před 2 měsíci +32

      ​@@commentfailedtopostNo, but perhaps they could stop making the idiots even more insufferable

    • @commentfailedtopost
      @commentfailedtopost Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Granolora Not their job.

    • @BeefIngot
      @BeefIngot Před 2 měsíci +15

      @@commentfailedtopost Its kids faults their brains arent fully developed? What sort of logic is this.

  • @Kaslor1000
    @Kaslor1000 Před 2 měsíci +2435

    Apple is slowly but steadily becoming the biggest villain of the tech world

  • @andresmorazun
    @andresmorazun Před 2 měsíci +614

    That external tax of 0.5 EUR per yearly install over 1M is crazy! Didn't Apple learned "something" about what happened to Unity last year? just a few months ago!

    • @zacharybaker770
      @zacharybaker770 Před 2 měsíci +18

      there is a big difference though. with unity, they were going to force people who were already using their product to pay these fees, while apple's use of it would have been brand new and couldnt retroactively screw somebody over.

    • @chinesesparrows
      @chinesesparrows Před 2 měsíci +27

      ​@fay7158 but consoles are subsidized to be cheaper, while everything in apple world is overpriced especially when they're just made in china

    • @pi4795
      @pi4795 Před 2 měsíci +13

      ​@@chinesesparrowsnot really, Nintendo makes money off every switch sold, and so do many consoles after their first half life. Meanwhile, we have the Steam Deck with a very tight price and it's running a Linux distro without any limitations, you can even install windows.
      I think that freedom in phones is more important than in consoles for obvious reasons, though. But to be fair, consoles (and every piece of hardware) should be more open

    • @NotNoord
      @NotNoord Před 2 měsíci

      ⁠@@pi4795because Steam takes the same 30% from every sale on their store

    • @lamhkak47
      @lamhkak47 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Worse than Unity lol

  • @david-youtube-channel
    @david-youtube-channel Před 2 měsíci +1266

    Apple is just annoying. Hopefully, the EU is fighting back. Removing PWA is absolutely ridiculous!

    • @meroshango9603
      @meroshango9603 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Hopefully big tech sen EU to F, if you don’t like Apple then just don’t use it

    • @kronos2266
      @kronos2266 Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah guys its been reversen simce EU commision launched an investigation into the matter

    • @antonhelsgaun
      @antonhelsgaun Před 2 měsíci +96

      ​@@meroshango9603oh damn bro I forgot just don't sell your product to 50% of consumers totally reasonable business model

    • @andrewoliver96
      @andrewoliver96 Před 2 měsíci

      @@meroshango9603 It's not just about not using Apple. This massively affects developers that want their apps available across all users (including iOS and Android). A simple way of achieving this is a PWA, where it is cross platform and works everywhere out of the box without having to learn multiple programing languages.
      If Apple bans PWAs, then the iOS users will have limited access to the PWAs.
      Imagine this, let's say CZcams was a PWA and not an actual app in the App Store. CZcams is pretty popular right? Everyone uses it regardless of platform.
      If Apple all of a sudden bans PWAs, iOS users will have limited access to them in their own iOS devices, including CZcams.
      CZcams devs would then need to hire programmers who know how to code for iOS which would incur extra costs for the development and maintenance of the application. Not to mention the extra fees from the app store and the added business logic in maintaining the same app in multiple programing languages for multiple platforms.
      I'm talking about a massive application here just to somewhat prove a point, but other smaller apps face the same issue with this ban.
      So, it's not just about "if you don't like Apple, don't use it". For devs that want their app available for everyone, they don't exactly have a choice on the matter unfortunately...

    • @masterflitzer
      @masterflitzer Před 2 měsíci +131

      @@meroshango9603 any consumer that defends apple in this is just plain stupid, nothing they do these days is in good faith

  • @Therealsimone0
    @Therealsimone0 Před 2 měsíci +932

    We gotta compliment you, there was no mention of Ai in this video.

    • @NicolasGagne
      @NicolasGagne Před 2 měsíci +51

      Because all is video are now ai generated

    • @aarav6891
      @aarav6891 Před 2 měsíci +64

      @@NicolasGagne The comments are too.
      we live in a simulation

    • @olned
      @olned Před 2 měsíci +11

      Beep boop

    • @lanz228
      @lanz228 Před 2 měsíci +9

      someone tell fireship that there is a problem with his ai

    • @RondorOne
      @RondorOne Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@aarav6891I thought we are all AIs tasked to comment here. Any Humans in this comment section?

  • @HeyItsDoodler
    @HeyItsDoodler Před 2 měsíci +529

    The PWA thing is hilarious since there was a time when Apple wanted everything to be a web app and not have an AppStore

    • @rick1901
      @rick1901 Před 2 měsíci +34

      ye lmao. PWA could have already been much more popular but because of companies like Apple they're still underdeveloped

    • @docmars
      @docmars Před 2 měsíci +10

      @@rick1901RIP Steve Jobs

    • @apersoniguess_
      @apersoniguess_ Před 2 měsíci +8

      who the hell is steve jobs?

    • @user-pd9uj8kj5b
      @user-pd9uj8kj5b Před 2 měsíci +29

      ​@@apersoniguess_ligma balls

    • @BeefIngot
      @BeefIngot Před 2 měsíci +9

      God what a god damn utopia we would be in if we never gave up so much control like we did by letting apps happen.

  • @bocimino463
    @bocimino463 Před 2 měsíci +72

    It never ceases to amaze me when software businesses forget that developers are deathly allergic to scalable liability. Even small fees, if out of our control, can scale to unbounded liabilities. Apple and Unity forgot this, and now they're both poison.

    • @SicMundusss
      @SicMundusss Před 14 dny

      How would you define scalable liability?

    • @bocimino463
      @bocimino463 Před 13 dny

      @@SicMundusss If a user can do something to force money out of a developer's pocket then it follows they could repeat that and linearly scale the cost.
      Unity would have allowed each user to cost the developer 20c every time the user installed the game. I could just bot farm that and bankrupt rival developers.
      Apple was going to do the same thing for side-loaded apps but with 50c.

  • @DDP-Gaming
    @DDP-Gaming Před 2 měsíci +129

    Who thought the perfect opponent to apple was not another multi-trillion dollar company but the actual EU

    • @NineSun001
      @NineSun001 Před 2 měsíci +19

      I have to live under that thing and I can assure you, it came to everbody here in Europa as a giant surprise, that they actually did something usefull for it's citizens ...

    • @davorzdralo8000
      @davorzdralo8000 Před 2 měsíci +35

      ​@@NineSun001if you really think that, you're not paying attention. EU has been on an absolute banger for a decade now. GDPR is fantastic and decades ahead of anything Americans may introduce, and that's just one example.

    • @futuza
      @futuza Před 2 měsíci +15

      ​@@NineSun001the EU is leagues ahead of the curve compared to American policies, the FTC and relevant laws are still decades behind them.

    • @kapytanhook
      @kapytanhook Před 2 měsíci +6

      Gdpr is a headache for small companies even ones that don't deal with anything private. Cookie banners alone are rough and google helps them enforce it. Big industry is working with politics to keep competition out

    • @kryyto6587
      @kryyto6587 Před 2 měsíci +17

      @@kapytanhook Yes, but GDPR is great for consumers

  • @JohnStockton7459
    @JohnStockton7459 Před 2 měsíci +90

    They did some soul searching and found nothing 🤣

  • @Jackson_Zheng
    @Jackson_Zheng Před 2 měsíci +121

    The best change we got out of all of this is definitely the removal of egress fees! Can't believe data migration is FINALLY FREE.

  • @incapablehulk3538
    @incapablehulk3538 Před 2 měsíci +540

    As Harvey Dent said, "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain."

    • @TheManinBlack9054
      @TheManinBlack9054 Před 2 měsíci +16

      The goal is to get big so you can finally be a villain

    • @Mankepanke
      @Mankepanke Před 2 měsíci +50

      When weren't they the villain?

    • @DevinDTV
      @DevinDTV Před 2 měsíci +43

      Apple was never remotely similar to a hero or anything like it. They've always made second rate overpriced products that survive only based on marketing.

    • @centuryt3043
      @centuryt3043 Před 2 měsíci +5

      And as jonkler said "Stand back fool ive got a bomb"

    • @Komeuppance
      @Komeuppance Před 2 měsíci +9

      Only Apple fanbois getting high off their own farts would see themselves and Apple as heroes.

  • @enkiimuto1041
    @enkiimuto1041 Před 2 měsíci +50

    Gotta admire Apple's dedication of funding EU healthcare by going out of their way of violating laws and paying the fees.

  • @Gornius
    @Gornius Před 2 měsíci +111

    And that's the main reason I don't use Apple products. Good hardware? Probably. Great experience? Maybe. But Apple's idea that by owning the hardware they can ultimately control the software is a big no-go.

    • @ben_spiller
      @ben_spiller Před 2 měsíci +18

      The only good thing is their hardware. Their user experience, at least on MacOS, is horrible. It sucks.

    • @williamcardoso1181
      @williamcardoso1181 Před 2 měsíci +12

      bro I have a mac and damn linux is way better (gnome or plasma interface at least)
      also as a ios developer I must use it to build the apps :/

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 Před 2 měsíci +6

      So let me get this straight. You bought Apples products and was able to leave of your own free will? A lot of people would have you believe that Apple forces people to buy their products and never allows them to leave. Could you explain how you did it, because theirs a lot of disinformation going around.

    • @alexxx4434
      @alexxx4434 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Hardware is not the best.

    • @the1necromancer
      @the1necromancer Před 2 měsíci

      @@jamarplunkett3283
      You are a tech-savy person, on a tech channel, talking to another tech-savy person.
      The average Joe is not like us. They do not know how to transfer their data out of Apple. They don't even know where to start figuring this stuff out, if they are even willing or able to. The exception of us does not disprove a rule.
      Why even write comments on YT anymore if something as mild as this is censored? If this is a symptom of a larger problem, then no wonder people are going underground.

  • @autumndev
    @autumndev Před 2 měsíci +51

    Never thought I'd be happy to hear "bureaucrats are on the case"

  • @alexandersergan9220
    @alexandersergan9220 Před 2 měsíci +277

    PWA support drop is a crime against humanity and common sense🤬🤬🤬🤬

    • @Blaineworld
      @Blaineworld Před 2 měsíci +26

      they did what. fuck apple.
      whenever i get a new phone (which is probably not soon) i’m going full libre vegan with it. degoogled android and all that.

    • @RoXas958
      @RoXas958 Před 2 měsíci +1

      "Apple says iOS 17.4 won’t remove Home Screen web apps in the EU after all"

    • @houstonbova3136
      @houstonbova3136 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Blaineworld Why not get something with Ubuntu Touch or some other non-android Linux distro. That way you can control telemetry too.

    • @1495978707
      @1495978707 Před 2 měsíci +10

      ​@@houstonbova3136 Because of support for apps and hardware

    • @codeaperture
      @codeaperture Před 2 měsíci +12

      Mahn.. I wish Apple declines constantly, they have failed the open web and humanity at large, terrible browsers and many BS

  • @ThatBritishGuyonyourstreet
    @ThatBritishGuyonyourstreet Před 2 měsíci +275

    This guy is actually insanely fast and talented with his videos

  • @thespikything
    @thespikything Před 2 měsíci +50

    And people wonder why I won't port my apps to iOS 🤦‍♂

    • @OzzyTheGiant
      @OzzyTheGiant Před 2 měsíci +7

      Agreed. I have stopped supporting everything tied to Apple. It's not worth it. The only thing I want to save from that ecosystem is Swift, as it's one of my favorite languages.

    • @ahmadmatar7549
      @ahmadmatar7549 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Same, I always tell my my friends who want to use my app either to buy an Android or to find a way to download the app😂 without the Appstore

    • @RandomNoob1124
      @RandomNoob1124 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Android store ain’t any better 😂

    • @DanielNetSet
      @DanielNetSet Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@RandomNoob1124how so?

    • @gabriel55ita
      @gabriel55ita Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@RandomNoob1124it's definitely more open than appstore

  • @jflores85
    @jflores85 Před 2 měsíci +116

    I do not know why people still buy apple products anymore especially with the battery and browser issues.

    • @Hex-Mas
      @Hex-Mas Před 2 měsíci +97

      It's a cult

    • @dhirajksharma_
      @dhirajksharma_ Před 2 měsíci +7

      ​@Hex-Mas, that's the best answer I've seen yet

    • @TheStickofWar
      @TheStickofWar Před 2 měsíci +15

      I prefer Linux as my OS, but I have to say that I am very impressed with my MacBook battery. That thing lasts forever since the silicon chips.

    • @Haise-san
      @Haise-san Před 2 měsíci +5

      "Bu... But I want to be a part of the ones with overpriced scam products.. it's safer even tho android is too andand it's cool to have apple 😎"

    • @levelup2014
      @levelup2014 Před 2 měsíci +4

      MacBooks pro are good laptops if you buy them referburished stop it

  • @AbnormalAbnorman
    @AbnormalAbnorman Před 2 měsíci +215

    I love it when the EU kicks Apple in it's apples! 😀😁

    • @polozhitelen
      @polozhitelen Před 2 měsíci +18

      @fay7158 I love that Apple Music will never be equal to or more than what Spotify was, is and will be :)

    • @kapytanhook
      @kapytanhook Před 2 měsíci +1

      The EU will decide your life a little bit more every day. And people cheer it on. They quietly destroyed the whole housing market here and all energy manding industry is getting hammered by sanctions. Can't even lay people off, forced drawn out bankruptcy. Soon only the big few companies will rule us, hand in hand with the people they lobby

    • @AbnormalAbnorman
      @AbnormalAbnorman Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@kapytanhook I love making ball jokes 😊😊

    • @kapytanhook
      @kapytanhook Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@AbnormalAbnorman It was a good ball joke, idk why I have the compulsion to lecture in comments. The EU should ban it xD

    • @cl8804
      @cl8804 Před 2 měsíci

      it is apples

  • @_dominick
    @_dominick Před 2 měsíci +34

    The apple is rotting, but people keep eating its shit.

    • @turolretar
      @turolretar Před 2 měsíci +2

      When the shit is gold it will happen

    • @djspectrein
      @djspectrein Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@turolretarwhat gold you are talking about brother??? 😂💀
      GOLDDIGGER!

    • @user-ke7ki6mx2z
      @user-ke7ki6mx2z Před 4 dny

      Rebuild the Apple Watch golden thingy and get 10m$

  • @TheBumbleCheese
    @TheBumbleCheese Před 2 měsíci +432

    EU, the workers-council of capitalism. Love it

    • @WilderPoo
      @WilderPoo Před 2 měsíci +7

      Perfect way to describe the institutions tbh

    • @davidvultur8704
      @davidvultur8704 Před 2 měsíci

      Once in a blue moon. Just consider that they banned most of 8K TVs (or above) because insane energy regulations, they made browsing internet extremely annoying (every website you enter in EU will show you a huge banner where you have to click "Approve" to continue), they even banned all vacuum cleaners more than 900W (now they're all so stupid that you just have to spend 3x the time to clean up your house).
      THEY are regulating AI chat bots although there's no no AI chat bot developed in EU yet. Yeah, no...

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft Před 2 měsíci +3

      Sort of like the Politburo of Europe. I cannot wait to see their Lada.

    • @marcs9451
      @marcs9451 Před 2 měsíci +2

      No.

    • @iatheman
      @iatheman Před 2 měsíci +3

      Haha that's a great, crazy, kinda accurate definition.

  • @John-yu8xz
    @John-yu8xz Před 2 měsíci +55

    404: this soul doesn’t exist 😂😂😂

  • @DerSolinski
    @DerSolinski Před 2 měsíci +8

    "They did some soul searching, but unfortunately found nothing."
    Can we just appreciate this TLDR of the "mean tweet" that they used as excuse for the ban.

  • @stepstefolifts13
    @stepstefolifts13 Před 2 měsíci +24

    I gotta give mad respect to fireship man,the dude is fast, keeps me up to date and is always funny! Honestly my most appreciated yt channel homie!

    • @SLRModShop
      @SLRModShop Před 2 měsíci

      Check out The Why Files, he'll become #2

  • @solidandshade
    @solidandshade Před 2 měsíci +33

    Finally a fireship video that doesn't blackpill me on how useless I will soon become as a programmer and depress me with existential dread.

  • @knechtnoobrecht-c137
    @knechtnoobrecht-c137 Před 2 měsíci +15

    Epic's developer account is already reinstated. Seems like they realized the EU was going to hurt them if they didn't.

  • @johnkeck
    @johnkeck Před 2 měsíci +13

    One of those times, increasingly common, for which I am grateful for the existence of the EU and its bureaucracies.

  • @vacafuega
    @vacafuega Před 2 měsíci +3

    I briefly worked for one of Apple's app developer approval teams years ago and even then they were deliberately designing their procedures to be as frustrating and misleading as possible to navigate, in order to support a false sense of exclusivity. Basically a kind of corporate hazing. This sickness is nothing new.

  • @xijinvegg
    @xijinvegg Před 2 měsíci +340

    Gotta love the EU :)

    • @theblckbird
      @theblckbird Před 2 měsíci +21

      I hate it and I live in the EU
      Although not because of the DMA but rather because of the Cyber Resilience Act

    • @raspas99
      @raspas99 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I really really love it :*

    • @glowiedetector
      @glowiedetector Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@theblckbird why?

    • @matonolo
      @matonolo Před 2 měsíci

      Statism and regulation. Disgusting. Europe is the region that grows the least in the world bacause of it.

    • @f__kyoudegenerates
      @f__kyoudegenerates Před 2 měsíci

      Tyranny lover.

  • @kiaranr
    @kiaranr Před 2 měsíci +14

    I'm a programmer, gamer and certified tech geek and I own nothing from Apple. Nor do I use any Apple software or services. I just haven't found any of their product offerings sufficiently compelling compared to the alternatives.
    Now it's become even easier to avoid them. What a joke.

    • @jousis_
      @jousis_ Před 2 měsíci +6

      The problem is that you cannot tell your clients "sorry, we don't do apple here, I will only develop for android/win/linux".
      If it was up to the devs, apple would have died or conceded long time ago imo.

    • @redrevyol
      @redrevyol Před 2 měsíci +2

      Apple requires us to use their products/services to build Apple apps, and apparently a lot of people use Apple products.

  • @Dr-Zed
    @Dr-Zed Před 2 měsíci +110

    EU coming in clutch once again

    • @JOEDIRTERULEZ
      @JOEDIRTERULEZ Před 2 měsíci

      WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE FREE MARKET TALK AHHA FREE MARKET THIS FREE MARKET THAT.........THE COMMIE MEMES HAVE ROTTED YOUR CHILDISH MIND...APPLES THE ONE WHO STANDS UP TO BIG GOVERNMENT WITH PRIVACY AND SECURITY

    • @PherPhur
      @PherPhur Před 2 měsíci +1

      EU is OP

    • @thegoldenatlas753
      @thegoldenatlas753 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Don't give em too much credit they are still trying to kill encryption

    • @Dr-Zed
      @Dr-Zed Před 2 měsíci +13

      @@thegoldenatlas753 "The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has ruled that laws requiring crippled encryption and extensive data retention violate the European Convention on Human Rights"

    • @justADeni
      @justADeni Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@thegoldenatlas753 No we ain't. That bill will never pass.

  • @RobipiotCode
    @RobipiotCode Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for the info 😊

  • @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
    @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ Před 2 měsíci +35

    Cant wait for the next multi billiom dollar fine against that pathetic anti consumer company ❤❤

    • @Rerbun
      @Rerbun Před 2 měsíci +2

      🙏 PLEASE punish this malicious compliance 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

    • @critical_always
      @critical_always Před 2 měsíci +3

      I think consumers are pathetic for buying their product. You got to be a special kind of shortsighted to think buying Apple products is a good idea.
      But I get it. De-Apple is probably as painful as De-googling. A process that I have yet to complete.

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 Před 2 měsíci

      What does anti consumer even mean?

  • @etothejtheta
    @etothejtheta Před 2 měsíci +4

    Neat how SAP is considered not a gatekeeper.

    • @jb5631
      @jb5631 Před 2 měsíci +1

      100% agree! I agree with the regulations, but it definitely seems cherrypicked

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yep 👍

  • @THE16THPHANTOM
    @THE16THPHANTOM Před 2 měsíci +2

    i just love that this is happening so publicly. and everyone is seeing all of this pettiness from apple out in the open. unlike us years ago when we found out the hard way back in the day trying to make our student project, not even for commercial.

  • @OzzyTheGiant
    @OzzyTheGiant Před 2 měsíci +4

    Did they not learn anything from Unity's pricing fiasco? That's an outrageous fee policy.

  • @nick15684
    @nick15684 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Just another reason to add to the already colossal list of reasons not to develop apps for Apple products.

  • @aniketbisht2823
    @aniketbisht2823 Před 2 měsíci +3

    1:05 Something also needs to be done regarding the Kindle ebooks DRM. Kindle for desktop doesn't work for Linux but the Windows version itself sucks. I want to read my ebooks on the desktop. Most of them are technical in nature and therefore require me to practice or try things alongside on my PC/Laptop. Although ebook pirates can freely choose which application they want to read a particular ebook in, paying customers for Amazon Kindle are stuck with their stupid app.

  • @symphony_vk
    @symphony_vk Před 2 měsíci +4

    Jeff, your videos are my favourite part of the internet! Thank you so much for all your hard work! I am a lifetime Fireship member and those are also the best money I've spent online in the last decade!

  • @MrJustCallMeJames
    @MrJustCallMeJames Před 2 měsíci +1

    Im absolutely stunned by this, cheering on Tim Sweeney was something I never thought I would do.

  • @ThompterSHunson
    @ThompterSHunson Před 2 měsíci +3

    I can't even begin to grasp how the Western GOVs allowed Apple to take 1/3 of the in-app payments!!! It's beyond absurd. It's a fckin' shakedown.

  • @thripnixe
    @thripnixe Před 2 měsíci +5

    3:28 Im sure at this rate Nvidia gonna pass the apple in market cap

  • @457Deniz457
    @457Deniz457 Před 2 měsíci +2

    If we all dont use Apple AT ALL anymore, we do this world a big favour.

  • @P-39_Airacobra
    @P-39_Airacobra Před 2 měsíci +1

    App store would like to know your location:
    "Ok | Ok"

  • @virrob9055
    @virrob9055 Před 2 měsíci +19

    pirating or disrespecting apple is justified. the equivalent of nintendo in big tech for sure.

    • @markstein2845
      @markstein2845 Před 2 měsíci +1

      You don’t need no excuse to pirate.

    • @virrob9055
      @virrob9055 Před 2 měsíci

      true, but some devs id rather support than others @@markstein2845

    • @thegoblinwholaughs1137
      @thegoblinwholaughs1137 Před 2 měsíci

      stfu with this cringe justifciation cope for piracy. If you pirate sht, pirate it. Stop picking and choosing to make yourself feel better. Its just cringe, and low level feeling.

  • @redbard4300
    @redbard4300 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Raising my hands to the air to send my energy to the EU like their Goku about to hit apple with the genki dama.🙌

  • @infamearts
    @infamearts Před 2 měsíci +4

    0:41 and it's compliance date was yesterday
    (shows march 6th)

    • @phatakom
      @phatakom Před 2 měsíci

      Probably some delay in voice recording as at 0:30 it says 7th March.

  • @BOLL7708
    @BOLL7708 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I will never not feel like a meme celebrity when you include my VR photo. Cheers 😛

  • @neutron417
    @neutron417 Před 2 měsíci +31

    power truly corrupts.

    • @robertnagy3942
      @robertnagy3942 Před 2 měsíci +4

      According to my roommate who is an expert at politics, it's not the power that corrupts, but the path leading to power. Is that true?

    • @neutron417
      @neutron417 Před 2 měsíci

      @@robertnagy3942 the path is innocent most of the times

    • @PherPhur
      @PherPhur Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@robertnagy3942 It is the path, but to be more precise, it's what you're willing to sacrifice or destroy on the way to obtain the power.
      Every little justification adds up until you have no morals and you're just a malicious entity striving for power at all costs.
      It's a slippery slop too, each wrong decision makes it easier to make another wrong decision. "well I've already done X, is Y so bad?"
      Also, with each wrong move you get criticized, which gives you further justification to make more wrongs. Eventually it's just you vs. the world.

  • @wlockuz4467
    @wlockuz4467 Před 2 měsíci +5

    *Tim Apple vs Epic Tim* was not on my 2024 bingo card, but I am not complaining.

    • @jensenraylight8011
      @jensenraylight8011 Před 2 měsíci

      like did people actually played Fortnite or even Mobile games on their Iphone?

    • @the1necromancer
      @the1necromancer Před 2 měsíci

      @@jensenraylight8011
      Mobile shooters are popular among kids and especially in poorer countries.

    • @jensenraylight8011
      @jensenraylight8011 Před 2 měsíci

      @@the1necromancer I'm sure people in the poor countries are using Android, because they just can't afford Iphone.
      and people in a more developed economy played their game on PC, Console and Laptop,
      because it's the most comfortable and uncompromising way to play a game.
      can't understand why it was such a big deal for epic to stay on Iphone.

    • @guii6545
      @guii6545 Před měsícem

      @@jensenraylight8011 man... poor people are not fuc#ing homeless people they can and they will buy expensive things to feel important or happy (even if they spend the whole year paying the installments on the bill)

  • @farble1670
    @farble1670 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Apple v. Epic: two billions dollar giants arguing about who gets more of your money. This isn't your fight.

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 Před 2 měsíci

      Exactly, the point no body talks about. Epic games and Spotify are huge company’s.

  • @new-bp6ix
    @new-bp6ix Před 2 měsíci +1

    If Steve jobs were here, he wouldn't be wasting his time protecting his appstore from third-party apps. He'd be focusing on inventing something new.

  • @HoNow222
    @HoNow222 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Great work Europe!

  • @coctyg7209
    @coctyg7209 Před 2 měsíci +4

    3:03 I cant stop laughing

  • @seanmitchell2441
    @seanmitchell2441 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Amazon did not remove fees, its 100 GB free a month, then ask support for help

  • @TheDingsBoms
    @TheDingsBoms Před 2 měsíci

    Fireship the goat, bringing the high quality news in an instant

  • @aveydotdev
    @aveydotdev Před 2 měsíci +49

    spotify accusing someone else of extortion is hilarious

    • @JOEDIRTERULEZ
      @JOEDIRTERULEZ Před 2 měsíci

      IKNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE EU FREE MARKET TALK/FREE MARKET THIS FREE MARKET THAT HAHAHA SCUMBAG EU.BOYCOTT ALL EU BRANDS NOW

    • @nannan3035
      @nannan3035 Před 2 měsíci +9

      how bad must it be for spotify of all people to call it a extortion

    • @soumilgupta3441
      @soumilgupta3441 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@nannan3035they barely make a profit

    • @hungrymusicwolf
      @hungrymusicwolf Před 2 měsíci +17

      @@nannan3035 "I know we're bad, but man... that's just plain evil."

  • @sociolocomtsac
    @sociolocomtsac Před 2 měsíci +3

    Big tech getting desperate that the inevitable will happen

  • @guy7524
    @guy7524 Před 2 měsíci

    3:10 That Apple Vision Pro's with bloodshot eyes. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @PandaJerk007
    @PandaJerk007 Před 2 měsíci

    Interesting video!

  • @Yespython
    @Yespython Před 2 měsíci +52

    ❤❤❤ love from EU

    • @mac2857
      @mac2857 Před 2 měsíci +4

      love you guys

  • @AquaQuokka
    @AquaQuokka Před 2 měsíci +62

    No AI streak still going, you can do it!

  • @SussyBacca
    @SussyBacca Před 2 měsíci

    Fireship keeps spitting hot fire!!!! ❤❤❤

  • @tundrastreaming
    @tundrastreaming Před 2 měsíci +1

    "bureaucrats in Belgium"
    I know you meant to say the right thing since Brussels is in Belgium, but people don't say refer to the European parliament and commission as 'Belgium'. It's simply 'Brussels' to indicate that it's not a national body related to the country of Belgium, but the EU body.

  • @0x00nobody7
    @0x00nobody7 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Best part of video: 3:23

  • @adarshj6033
    @adarshj6033 Před 2 měsíci +29

    Oh no, the AI streak gone😮

  • @SuperXzm
    @SuperXzm Před 2 měsíci +1

    According to legend, when the board members claimed that the company had lost all its soul, Steve Jobs dunked the company in water and it emitted the last particle of its soul.
    Tim Cook was particularly impressed.

  • @Merlin0216
    @Merlin0216 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Apple has become such a greedy, greedy anti-consumer hyper-capitalist company I'm seriously considering leaving the entire ecosystem for the next upgrades. Their decisions seriously make me angry.

  • @NutsforDonuts-qc1vx
    @NutsforDonuts-qc1vx Před 2 měsíci +8

    The EU's policies on big tech is what the world needs

    • @Masterix.
      @Masterix. Před 2 měsíci

      No, they really aren't. We don't need regulations. If you don't like Apple's products, just don't buy them.

    • @fireheartedtimemanagemente5678
      @fireheartedtimemanagemente5678 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@Masterix. Or we don't buy them as well as support regulations that prevent a big company from abusing their power. I don't know why you'd say this unless you're a paid shill.

  • @Gigusx
    @Gigusx Před 2 měsíci +10

    LOL it keeps on happening...
    - First, Riot Games pushed me away from League with Riot Vanguard
    - For the last few months (or closer to a year, I guess), Microsoft has been working really hard to push me away from Windows to Linux permanently
    - Now Apple makes the entering their closed eco-system look even less compelling that it had been
    - I still remember Google's "prank" about sunsetting Gmail...

    • @futuza
      @futuza Před 2 měsíci +1

      They don't want customers apparently.

    • @Gigusx
      @Gigusx Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@futuza Sure seems like it. Especially Riot, they've alienated a bunch of their community to (officially) solve a problem that affects the average player maybe once every few hundreds of games 🤔

    • @futuza
      @futuza Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@Gigusx Yep I quit League as well when they did that. Cheating was pretty much a non-issue in League and then they decided rootkits were the answer to a problem that didn't matter. Oh well, was wasting enough time anyway so they provided the perfect excuse to do something more productive.

  • @notaspectator
    @notaspectator Před 2 měsíci +2

    There are pros and cons to this forced move. I've been deploying/ building, designing and coding apps since 2011 and having apple handle payments, subs, refunds, smaller payments and controls over features is worth paying for. I have built solutions entirely with stripe apis and back in the day directly with a processor and there are soo many hours and devops and advanced technical support you should have and have to pay for ongoing. With apple verifying users and so on helps with avoiding people with fake or stolen credit cards. Much like crappy apps on google play that are built without any business verification. Also if your client makes under $1M which is just enough for a company, 15% is fair to just focus on actual value. Thanks , rant over

  • @ostrava_
    @ostrava_ Před 2 měsíci +2

    Didn't Jobs push for PSAs? Seems silly to say they "never liked them"

  • @PolarbearYGT
    @PolarbearYGT Před 2 měsíci +4

    Nintendo and apple are like the main villains who just fart on everything that is free and fun

  • @pxkqd
    @pxkqd Před 2 měsíci +3

    It amazes me every time a company becomes the villain. Like... do they notice it? Do they care?

    • @kodedart2311
      @kodedart2311 Před 2 měsíci

      That's the endgame.

    • @futuza
      @futuza Před 2 měsíci

      They've always been a villains, it just takes them a while to become unstoppable supervillians.

    • @complexity5545
      @complexity5545 Před 2 měsíci

      Apple has always been a villain. Only consumer thought of Jobs as a savior. Devs hated that guy.

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@fay7158hey you can’t bring up blatant hypocrisy in this comment section. You can only sh!t on Apple😂.
      Nah, but seriously that’s a good point.

  • @ihopethiscommentisntabusiv4670
    @ihopethiscommentisntabusiv4670 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Imagine building a city. You let merchants come into that city to sell their goods and services. But now, someone comes along and tells you what those merchants can or not do. Yea makes sense.

    • @nommchompsky
      @nommchompsky Před 2 měsíci +4

      The person who built the city still has to follow the rules of higher government. They also don't own the citizens or their homes and businesses and shouldn't be surprised when people get upset with them for putting up roadblocks to prevent people from shopping elsewhere to avoid the 30% local sales tax

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@nommchompskybut the thing is the bigger government didn’t help build anything and should only dictate certain basic rules like taxes and basic safety guidelines. What this bigger government is doing is an egregious over step, given the fact that they played absolutely no role in the development of the city or its infrastructure. And the “prevent people from shopping elsewhere” point is dubious. There are a plethora amount of cities where you can buy certain, products, but if you choose to sell to Apple city’s citizens, then you have to pay the local Fee. And if you choose not to, you can go to Google city, Samsung city, or any the 1,000 plus android city’s out there. Forcing a city to stop taxing is about as dumb as it gets.

    • @nommchompsky
      @nommchompsky Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@jamarplunkett3283 Again, the city builder doesn't own the citizens, their homes, or their business. Once I buy my home, the builder is no longer calling the shots and I would expect higher levels of government to step in if they try to. They're welcome to collect their taxes, but if I want to bring something in from out of town that's my business

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@nommchompskyyes, the government doesn’t own the citizens, but they do own every and all aspect of the city. They provide the electricity, water, sewage, etc. If you want to use these services you have to pay a fee.
      And this isn’t about what you bring from out of town it’s about the fact that you don’t want to pay the Fee to use these services. And this whole argument stems from business not wanting to pay the Fee’s /Taxes, it’s literally the main reason epic games, Spotify, and the EU have a problem with Apples App Store. The just don’t want to pay apples Fee.
      If you use Apples electricity, water, sewage, public transport, etc. how is it okay to not pay the Fee? If you have a problem with this, go to a city that you don’t mind paying a fee for. Just don’t force Apple to give it away for free.

  • @michaelzlprime
    @michaelzlprime Před 2 měsíci +1

    Oh the irony of that 1984 commercial is so sweet.
    I will never touch an apple product with a 10ft pole. it's like signing your would to the devil for a shiny brick, and not a gold one. because unlike gold you'll also need to replace it in 2 years.

  • @maximumcockage6503
    @maximumcockage6503 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I actually like Epic Games as a company. They give you free games every week, and their model personally for games is to give people free games like Fall Guys, Trackmania, Rocket League, Fortnite, etc. But they make their money through microtransactions such as selling skins, yet no game is every pay to win because they don't sell guns or ammo packs. Just "Do you want this Goku skin in Fortnite or Sonic skin in Fall Guys? 5 dollars" so now anyone can play the game for free and any money you spend is optional and doesn't actually give you an unfair advantage.
    Top tier model imo

    • @mrkva6273
      @mrkva6273 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Fr they are underrated

    • @xerfrex7869
      @xerfrex7869 Před 2 měsíci

      They're in their User acquisition phase.
      The good times won't last forever, but I'm here for the ride while they are

  • @blanana_m
    @blanana_m Před 2 měsíci +3

    This feels like a fight betwen little children except they're giant companies and the EU

  • @FurryNonsense
    @FurryNonsense Před 2 měsíci +1

    "Apple lost 80 billion dollars, did some soul searching, and found nothing" 😭

  • @Equalisys
    @Equalisys Před 2 měsíci +3

    Haven’t seen the video yet but I know it’s a banger

  • @nestharus
    @nestharus Před 2 měsíci +4

    It's not about the tweet. Apple was looking for any reason at all to ban Epic. Remember Epic sued them. Apple doesn't want them on their platform.

    • @TheRibbonRed
      @TheRibbonRed Před 2 měsíci +4

      And Epic was looking for every reason to not pay _any_ percentage to platform holders. Both Apple & Google. Meanwhile implementing their own monopoly on video games with Epic Games Store.
      Be honest. Neither of these multi-billion international companies are the commonfolk's friends.

    • @turolretar
      @turolretar Před 2 měsíci

      @@TheRibbonRedepic has the better name so I hope they win, cause that would be … EPIC

  • @theonlycatonice
    @theonlycatonice Před 2 měsíci +2

    2:40 holy shit that's one hell of a move

  • @binary_gaming113
    @binary_gaming113 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I'm glad the generative AI hype seems to be slowing down at least a bit

  • @jvmauricio107
    @jvmauricio107 Před 2 měsíci +14

    EU is the Jedi that will bring balance to the force

    • @NimoArts
      @NimoArts Před 2 měsíci +1

      It might seem so, while they enhance the prison you life inside.

    • @PherPhur
      @PherPhur Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@NimoArts lol if the EU is a prison, it's a prison nicer than anywhere in the world

    • @NimoArts
      @NimoArts Před 2 měsíci

      @@PherPhur They got you

  • @skywalkerSam
    @skywalkerSam Před 2 měsíci +3

    Dude, you're like Eminem for devs... put some beats and done.

  • @global6000
    @global6000 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I don’t understand like Spotify if their membership via their website is $10 and the via the App Store it’s $13 due to 30% App Store tax and then they say consumers are paying to much like Spotify just make it $10 then for consumers via the App Store and agree that you only get $7 for each subscription via the App Store

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 Před 2 měsíci +2

      That’s the thing. Spotify and other businesses don’t want to lower their prices to compete. They prefer that the EU government comes in and force another company to do so. And let us not forget that Spotify and Epic games are big players in their respective fields.

  • @TysonLondon
    @TysonLondon Před 2 měsíci +1

    "I pay my 100$ tribute" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @okie9025
    @okie9025 Před 2 měsíci +6

    For the people and governments in the EU, this is a win-win situation. Seeing Apple (and other monopolies) suffer is just a beautiful side effect. The 2 possibilities are:
    1. The companies pull away from the EU market, and then they will lose a massive amount of money. But that's not even the best part: the EU will get rid of a monopoly. This will allow for other, better companies to take their place, which will actually bring in more money than before, since smaller companies actually have to compete to make a better product. Not to mention the fact that removing american centrism from our culture and our devices is a huge success.
    2. The companies bow down to the EU. Life quality in the EU drastically increases, while still keeping the economy growing.

    • @PherPhur
      @PherPhur Před 2 měsíci

      Yep, it's just a + for humanity. As long as the EU maintains relevancy on the economic stage, they wield GREAT power and can make really great changes for hopefully all of us(even here in the US)

  • @GeorgeSpelt
    @GeorgeSpelt Před 2 měsíci +6

    apple is evil EG is good

    • @smallbutdeadly931
      @smallbutdeadly931 Před 2 měsíci

      Fortnite balls

    • @theairacobra
      @theairacobra Před 2 měsíci +5

      epic games is dogshit too

    • @TheRibbonRed
      @TheRibbonRed Před 2 měsíci +2

      Epic Games literally does the same for EGS. If you're against monopoly, you cannot support either multibillionaire international companies.

    • @GeorgeSpelt
      @GeorgeSpelt Před 2 měsíci

      You are wrong. I can publish a game for Windows wherever I like (steam, ms store or my own website). For apple its app store fees or "platform" fees.@@TheRibbonRed

  • @MCroppered
    @MCroppered Před 2 měsíci +1

    “Here’s your apple bill for not building your app for iOS”

  • @attilalukacs2916
    @attilalukacs2916 Před 2 měsíci +1

    As a Mac user, this is a dissapointment. You really made me believe I could play Fortnite again

  • @new-bp6ix
    @new-bp6ix Před 2 měsíci +1

    The company does a great job, innovates and becomes a monopoly or close to it in some field, and then the quality of the product becomes less important. The product starts valuing the great salesmen, because they’re the ones who can move the needle on revenues, not the product engineers and designers. So the salespeople end up running the company. by Steve jobs

  • @benjaminhon86
    @benjaminhon86 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Tbh setting up an appstore inside an appstore is also not fair to apple. Think about how much it cost apple to make an ecosystem to have an appstore. If some company can shortcut everything

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 Před 2 měsíci +2

      But people don’t care because it’s Apple. I wonder if the EU should give its Citizens a choice to not pay Taxes at all together? They should allow third party entities to accept taxes from its citizens and do with it what they want.

  • @SapphireTvYt
    @SapphireTvYt Před 2 měsíci +1

    Can anyone tell their experience about getting lifetime ban from Google Play Store console because of their "policy violation". The best part is they won't even tell you what is their policy that has been violated.

  • @wadewilson6628
    @wadewilson6628 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It's hilarious when two hated companies fight. We all win.

  • @orange_district
    @orange_district Před 2 měsíci

    I love your sense of humor ❤

  • @garethjax
    @garethjax Před 2 měsíci

    Oh i see what you did there! Outstanding move!