7 Things No Programmer Ever Wants to Hear

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 9. 10. 2022
  • What are some of the worst things about being a programmer? Let's look at 7 dreaded messages that a software engineer never wants to receive.
    #programming #tech #comedy
    💬 Chat with Me on Discord
    / discord
    🔗 Resources
    Programmer Stereotypes • 10 Programmer Stereotypes
    Technical Interview Survival • How to NOT Fail a Tech...
    🔥 Get More Content - Upgrade to PRO
    Upgrade at fireship.io/pro
    Use code YT25 for 25% off PRO access
    🎨 My Editor Settings
    - Atom One Dark
    - vscode-icons
    - Fira Code Font
    🔖 Topics Covered
    - Worst things about programming
    - Should I become a programmer?
    - Software engineer career drawbacks
    - Programming memes
    - The bad parts of learning to code
  • Věda a technologie

Komentáře • 2,5K

  • @HiltownJoe
    @HiltownJoe Před rokem +4248

    Ahh yes, the good old "Nevermind, I fixed it" answer to their own post. One of my proudest moments as junior dev was, when I ran into a really obscure problem. No solution on the Internet to be found. So I asked SO. But I had a deadline and could not wait. So I read old patchnotes, bugreports for other software which had the same dependencies like the software I had problems with even the secret mac and cheese recepie of the developers grandmother. And after way to much time I found a solution. But that was not what I was most proud about. No, I gave a propper description of my bugfix as an answer tomy own question, and two years later I get a message in my Inbox: "I ran into the same problem, and your fix worked. Thanks, you saved me a lot of work."

  • @flannelbeard4621
    @flannelbeard4621 Před rokem +6264

    "fast-paced exciting environment" means "manic boss micromanages everyone and knows everything while asking only you to work late and sacrifice everything".

    • @mr.rainc0at614
      @mr.rainc0at614 Před rokem +140

      This sounds so personal i love it.

    • @dhupee
      @dhupee Před rokem +165

      And gonna call you at 10 pm to fix something, ask you to leave your sick kid, comment every post in your social media, question your personal life

    • @egorm8952
      @egorm8952 Před rokem +13

      Pretty accurate))

    • @stickguy9109
      @stickguy9109 Před rokem +85

      @@dhupee Bro that's fucked up💀I hope it's just a joke

    • @MTF_Epsolon-9
      @MTF_Epsolon-9 Před rokem +8

      @@stickguy9109 same💀

  • @leonarbitrarynonsense359
    @leonarbitrarynonsense359 Před rokem +1091

    The AWS one really got me 💀 That exact thing happened to me where after following an AWS tutorial I left an EC2 instance on an received a bill months later for 2000$. Thankfully the credit card on the account had expired so I couldn’t be charged. I literally just deleted the account and pretended nothing ever happened. I’ve been ducking the AWS death squads ever since.

    • @danielrivalsyah2170
      @danielrivalsyah2170 Před rokem +12

      How? Is it only tutorial?

    • @nicholasvinen
      @nicholasvinen Před rokem +89

      Walk away whistling 😅

    • @Neubis2008
      @Neubis2008 Před 11 měsíci +55

      Yea, so don't look into gpt, text to speech things or cloud services in general, cause if your card ends up there... there is a 100 % guarantee that you will end up somehow with a bill for something you never wanted.

    • @itsme_indira
      @itsme_indira Před 10 měsíci +21

      The Adventure of Bezos's Evader

    • @dansplain2393
      @dansplain2393 Před 10 měsíci +14

      You absolute Chad. Nice work.

  • @potsuaye69
    @potsuaye69 Před rokem +905

    I got paid like 5$ to fix someone's Discord bot's code. Apparently their word filter system had issues where some words like tHiS bypassed the system. I looked into the file and turns out they had an if statement (this was written in JS) for every possible case for every word like:
    if (word === "this") ...
    if (word === "This") ...
    and so on, for 50 words

    • @shinhook2k280
      @shinhook2k280 Před rokem +405

      Yandev code

    • @SSZaris
      @SSZaris Před rokem +49

      @@shinhook2k280 Hahaha that's what I call it too XD

    • @dionagona8205
      @dionagona8205 Před rokem +181

      @@spiritretro3571 because that would imply the person who wrote the code had a lick of knowledge about programming. I saw this shit too in a c++ class I joined and I couldn’t stop laughing at the guy when I was reviewing his code. I asked him how long he took and he said “2 hours” and I proceeded to shorten his 100 use cases to about 6-10 lines of code within 5 minutes. Basically just pick up a book and read it through or your life will be hell.

    • @gray3589
      @gray3589 Před rokem +11

      tolower???? Wtf man why???

    • @banedon8087
      @banedon8087 Před rokem +27

      As well as ToLower as others have mentioned, couldn't they have used Switch/Case/Break as well? I'm a hobby programmer and don't use that at all, but 5 seconds of googling told me how to use that in JS. Good Lord.

  • @johantaube3022
    @johantaube3022 Před rokem +1243

    "We work agile" is just another way of saying "we haven't bothered planning anything"

    • @crackwitz
      @crackwitz Před rokem +43

      Some stuff can't be planned.
      I'm not a fan of management cults either.

    • @sephypantsu
      @sephypantsu Před rokem +90

      @ghost mall most "agile" is just waterfall rebranded

    • @NehalHasnayeen
      @NehalHasnayeen Před rokem +72

      one of the core principle of agile is to be adaptable and should evolve with time and experience, where as almost all company practicing agile use a super hard rigid super unchangeable agile system/framework

    • @computernerd8157
      @computernerd8157 Před rokem +7

      Waterfall or plan driven development.

    • @kylekeenan3485
      @kylekeenan3485 Před rokem +17

      Sprint planning/ Kanbqn Boards, Burndown charts, User stories, product backlog refinement, how are you not planning when your Agile?

  • @MechMK1
    @MechMK1 Před rokem +2560

    I remember working an internship in an R&D department, and for 2 weeks straight our daily standups were "I'm doing the same stuff as yesterday" from all developers, until the boss finally anounced that the daily standups were pointless.

    • @Tennyson999
      @Tennyson999 Před rokem +152

      i hope my scrum master does this lol

    • @Yaxqb
      @Yaxqb Před rokem +257

      That's insanely quick response from ur boss, my boss ain't even participating in standups

    • @MaryamMaqdisi
      @MaryamMaqdisi Před rokem +41

      That’s the dream

    • @BboyKeny
      @BboyKeny Před rokem +124

      Stand-ups shouldn't have non developers to start with. It's not meant as a status update.

    • @PatriceStoessel
      @PatriceStoessel Před rokem +78

      When a developer says "same as tomorrow" it's a bad smell.
      XP coach (or Scrum master) has to wake up and reject that.
      The dev has to say what he has done since yesterday ; if he is stuck, he should speak loud for help, instead of waiting for a solution to pop out magically

  • @logon-oe6un
    @logon-oe6un Před rokem +198

    The "fixed it" gives hope. The moderator closing the thread ending it on something unhelpful, like a canned answer or another guy having the same problem is terrifying.

    • @TKollaKid
      @TKollaKid Před 8 měsíci +48

      Or “Closing. Possible duplicate of…” only to find out that the two threads are not remotely similar.

    • @doggosuki
      @doggosuki Před 3 měsíci

      yeah, thats my biggest pet peeve on stackoverflow. idk why they are so obsessed with "possible duplicates"... @@TKollaKid

    • @TehKarmalizer
      @TehKarmalizer Před 2 měsíci +1

      Way worse than just finding an open question from 12 years ago with no answer at all. There's a known fix, but you'll never know what it was until you bash your forehead against the problem long enough.

  • @tsundokujim
    @tsundokujim Před rokem +288

    I learned just how much respect software developers get early in my career. When an over-constrained, under-resourced project with constantly changing requirements wasn't progressing fast enough for the boss, he asked the immortal question: "Why is it taking so long? It's only typing." He actually offered to send the dev team on a typing course, to "speed things up."

    • @cazek445
      @cazek445 Před 10 měsíci +28

      This is terrible

    • @LabGecko
      @LabGecko Před 9 měsíci +120

      Thanks boss! I typed my resumé and resignation in under an hour! Look, I even used the é !

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@LabGecko😂

    • @christianbergmann8114
      @christianbergmann8114 Před 8 měsíci +20

      Which is helpful to type a new job application for a better company.

    • @tamnker8465
      @tamnker8465 Před 6 měsíci +40

      What code looks like to non-programmers:
      /**
      * Codes the code by coding code with code.
      * By coding code it codes code that codes coders code.
      * Coders code codes code that codes coding code that coders code.
      */
      code Code code Code {
      Code code = Code;
      Code code = "code";
      code code[] code = code code[code];
      code code code() {
      code(code code = code; code < code.code; code++) {
      code[code] = code
      }
      code code;
      }
      }

  • @StephenGillie
    @StephenGillie Před rokem +2376

    "It works on my machine" is why containers were invented.

    • @shapelessed
      @shapelessed Před rokem +52

      So true...
      Though you can't really use them as much during development, constant compiling and all that stuff so there are also tools aiming to recreate environments without co tainers...

    • @MrAlanCristhian
      @MrAlanCristhian Před rokem +400

      "It works on my container"

    • @funkenjoyer
      @funkenjoyer Před rokem +49

      @@shapelessed if you've written the dockerfile in a right way, as in the entire setup of environment happens before any frequently changing code is copied, creating newer image is pretty quick since it can reuse all the layers from previous versions while changing only the code

    • @tablettablete186
      @tablettablete186 Před rokem +155

      "This container doesn't work!"
      - The guy using Windows

    • @StephenGillie
      @StephenGillie Před rokem +24

      @@MrAlanCristhian Great, we can just put your container into prod.

  • @arnoldbuskftw
    @arnoldbuskftw Před rokem +2836

    The daily stand-up somehow always happens just when you made a breakthrough and is entering flow-state

  • @KeithOlson
    @KeithOlson Před rokem +934

    My very first programming job, right out of high school, involved trying to update source code that was so badly written that I'm pretty sure that it was obfiscated deliberately. (Seriously; every single variable was alphabet soup, it had almost no whitespace, and flow jumped to random places over and over again before looping back to just below the original branch.) I didn't realize that it was live production code and, when a bug in MS-DOS caused the files to be lost, I found that the hard way that the backup that the owner assured me the previous coder had made was months old and didn't work. At all. Period. In the end, he fired me for 'incompetence', threatened to sue me, and hired the previous coder back to get the program working again BECAUSE THE LIVELIHOOD OF THE COMPANY WAS BASED ON THAT PROGRAM. Shortly after that, the company vanished. It took me *YEARS* to finally realize that I hadn't destroyed the company because of my incompetence; the previous coder had. If he had made sure that the program was maintainable, had documented *ANYTHING,* and had been responsible with backups, none of it would have happened and I wouldn't have been wracked with years of false guilt and depression. #sotriggeredrightnow

    • @traveller23e
      @traveller23e Před rokem +142

      Honestly the owner was responsible from what you say. At the end of the day, for live code not to crash the people at the top either need to understand it or they need to have hired a team of actual experts. If it's one programmer at a time in the company, the owner and the programmer need to be one and the same.

    • @KeithOlson
      @KeithOlson Před rokem +80

      @@traveller23e I hear what you are saying, but this was a *very* small company and the owner knew nothing about programming, which is probably why the original programmer was hired despite obviously--to other coders--not knowing what he was doing. In other words, the guy I replaced conned the owner into hiring him, 'faked it til he made it', and left before the barely-working and utterly unmaintainable mess he had made blew up.

    • @traveller23e
      @traveller23e Před rokem +20

      @@KeithOlson Interesting that he came back though to fix the mess he'd made. I wonder if there was some personal tie.

    • @KeithOlson
      @KeithOlson Před rokem +43

      @@traveller23e No, the owner made it plain that he had to pay a *LOT* of money to get the guy to come back to deal with the mess.

    • @colinmarshall6634
      @colinmarshall6634 Před rokem +78

      @@KeithOlson That's on the owner for letting a shitty programmer take advantage of them. Sorry you got caught in the middle, but none of that was your fault.

  • @cheafmin1399
    @cheafmin1399 Před rokem +153

    "The most important skill of a software engineer is to be able to google things effectively."
    Very true. My dad is a software engineer and that was perhaps the most important skill he taught me growing up. Even if I resent him for the amount of times I got told "Google is your best friend" when asking for help in opening the pickle jar or changing a tire.

  • @AlJavier06
    @AlJavier06 Před rokem +1219

    I've gotten so many "small change" requests. If you're a freelancer, it's good to have a contract with your client detailing what's small, and what's a nightmarish overhaul in design.

    • @JPSTUNTSDK
      @JPSTUNTSDK Před rokem +37

      Suffering through this right now :( the pain

    • @flamehiro
      @flamehiro Před rokem +91

      Just charge per hour. 1 hour min per request/ticket, that way don't bug you one little thing at a time. If it takes 5 min they still getting charged an hour

    • @videoland9268
      @videoland9268 Před rokem

      Stay away from the client who say I have lot of work for you too since they are only boning you to get a lot of shit done for free.

    • @lCebolitosl
      @lCebolitosl Před rokem +29

      @@flamehiro How exactly does that work? If the client asks how much to make a website or something and I say like $100/hour, how do they know if they're paying the dev $ 1000 bucks or $ 10.000?

    • @theye29
      @theye29 Před rokem +23

      ​@@lCebolitosl yep, that is a huge problem too because programmers also can be jackasses with this

  • @HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks

    For 5 years I've been working with 20 year old code written by an artist who decided to learn to program and database, this was his first attempt at an application. The people outside my office are used to the profanity laced tirades emanating from my doorway now.

    • @kylekeenan3485
      @kylekeenan3485 Před rokem +64

      Do we work together lol?

    • @jazb4317
      @jazb4317 Před rokem +60

      I'm not sure if it worse when it your codebase or someone else's. Our outfit always falls victim to the "just need a one off real quick." Ok, so no plans to build it out further, fine, quick and dirty solution, there ya go. "hey, that worked so well can you just add this one more thing on it and that will be fine, but need it like today." Fine, real quick here it is. "hey, can you integrate x and y with it, that would be great." At which point you start staying, it sounds like the scope creep is ramping up here and this isn't a one off, we should probably scrap it, plan it, and build it out as a permanent, extensible solution. That will take a couple weeks, otherwise we are going to get trapped into tech debt if this thing keeps evolving. "nah, just slap some glue and duct tape so we can have it tomorrow, this is probably the last changes we will make. If we want to do more we will rebuild it."
      Ok, you want more, now we need to rebuild it right but we're into a month now. "ooo, that won't work, we need this new feature in a couple days"
      Rinse and repeat for years is how you get a legacy monstrosity even with best intentions.
      Moral of the the story is assuming your standalone helper tool will eventually morph into the recreation of Salesforce and SAP 😂

    • @patwhocares7009
      @patwhocares7009 Před rokem +39

      This project will ONLY run for 3 months ....... 9 years later. Can you add new features to it....NO. It is not only my own code that needs updating, but also all the libraries are outdated and will give conflicts and some libraries are not even updated for the last 3 years. Better to start all over then try to migrate it. But somehow there is never a budget for that. And then they pass it over to the next victim who thinks the original programmer is an idiot, not knowing this code was made in a different era.

    • @IanZWhite00
      @IanZWhite00 Před rokem +5

      @@HartleySan “this is the most profound comment I’ve ever written” is a _powerful_ opener

    • @HartleySan
      @HartleySan Před rokem +2

      @@IanZWhite00 I don't even recall writing that comment. Plus, the grammar was bad. I'm wondering if my account got hacked.

  • @ShiloBuff
    @ShiloBuff Před rokem +85

    The first issue mentioned is "Merge conflict". The fact that I thought that was the least of my worries just goes to show the struggles.

    • @ferd1775
      @ferd1775 Před rokem +7

      Right? Like a merge conflict ain't shit. Maybe to someone new it is daunting, not knowing what to keep or cut. Or understanding that some.functionality may have changed as a result of the merge and it's gonna take a little more time to pull together and get things working again. But that's the job..

    • @durbledurb3992
      @durbledurb3992 Před 8 měsíci

      @@ferd1775 If you're not pulling it's on you

  • @you.findbitches6054
    @you.findbitches6054 Před rokem +64

    I'm not even a software developer but the decade old forum that doesn't help at all is a mood

    • @ErevanDB
      @ErevanDB Před rokem +3

      Same. Just Tried to get EAC to work on my device, re-installed, moved files, edited a script, nothing.

    • @almicc
      @almicc Před rokem +7

      even worse is that you finally find an answer that looks like it might work, only for it to not work at all

    • @you.findbitches6054
      @you.findbitches6054 Před rokem +2

      @@almicc this is bringing up too much past trauma 😭

  • @charbelboughazale3994
    @charbelboughazale3994 Před rokem +774

    SOFTWARE ENGINEERS ARE INTROVERTS AND THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SAY NO, that hits deep while working on shitty project for my uncle🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Whynot83848
      @Whynot83848 Před rokem +15

      omg same

    • @XxTonys555xX
      @XxTonys555xX Před rokem +10

      @@Whynot83848 same same :((( only i have like 5 projects at once xd and a fulltime job. Why is it so hard to say NO to people xd

    • @makokx7063
      @makokx7063 Před rokem +78

      Lately my body has developed a defense mechanism where when anyone is excited to see me I projectile vomit on them before they can ask me to do something for them.

    • @Whynot83848
      @Whynot83848 Před rokem +39

      @@makokx7063 projectile emotion

    • @nullpointer1755
      @nullpointer1755 Před rokem +3

      Recently, i just started to tell eveyone that i don't do web/mobile development anymore because is too hard

  • @erik-sandberg
    @erik-sandberg Před rokem +761

    The migrating a legacy codebase where the previous developer died of old age actually made me laugh out loud. This is a fantastic video, well done Jeff!

    • @TheGreySage0
      @TheGreySage0 Před rokem +18

      If you add mysteriously it explains death in service benefit

    • @rushyscoper1651
      @rushyscoper1651 Před rokem +5

      i had even the same problem, was intern was told to learned angular 1 for month and then was ask to migrate old site to angular 6 with short deadline.
      like bro i don't even know angular 2 yet.

    • @JasonLaneZardoz
      @JasonLaneZardoz Před rokem +1

      @@rushyscoper1651 Code is code, it's all pretty much the same. Is it not?

    • @lolololo-cx4dp
      @lolololo-cx4dp Před rokem +2

      ​@@JasonLaneZardoz lol migrating codebase is a headache bro

    • @JasonLaneZardoz
      @JasonLaneZardoz Před rokem

      @@lolololo-cx4dp Sometimes, especially if you incur loads of tech debt.

  • @mathewberry3825
    @mathewberry3825 Před rokem +20

    The worst ones are always "we need this asap" with little to no info, then when you request more information (immediately after) they ignore you for weeks or even months before replying and saying "is it ready yet", had this scenario many times.

    • @christianbarnay2499
      @christianbarnay2499 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ASAP is actually my preferred deadline because I am free to call their bullshit by interpreting it in the most literal sense. My immediate answer is: "As soon as possible, okay. I am fully booked for the foreseeable future. Best shot is in 2 months. But no guarantee. And of course it will get delayed if an emergency comes in the meantime. If you want it earlier, give me an actual date and I'll see 1. if it's feasible and 2. what I will have to postpone to make room for it."
      And feel free to add unreasonable extra delay based on the lack of information to make it clear that by failing to give you all the info required they are slowing your work and penalizing themselves.
      You can't have your bosses and clients respect your precious time if you disrespect it yourself by accepting all kinds of abusive requests.

  • @izacaqsha3480
    @izacaqsha3480 Před rokem +64

    As someone who graduated as a civil engineer but decided to became a programmer, what you said is haunting me

    • @sata1938
      @sata1938 Před rokem +8

      Yeah if he wants to work outside then go do construction management. Engineers stay inside.

  • @revisionfour
    @revisionfour Před rokem +448

    Yo if that SQL injection on a speed camera is real, that man is a god.

    • @leonsvideos
      @leonsvideos Před rokem +14

      fr fr

    • @wlockuz4467
      @wlockuz4467 Před rokem +152

      And whoever implemented the detection system are a bunch of apes.

    • @AbhishekSharma-to6yd
      @AbhishekSharma-to6yd Před rokem +10

      Yes it was real

    • @klutch4198
      @klutch4198 Před rokem +5

      Yep, 100% real.

    • @tunnfisch7548
      @tunnfisch7548 Před rokem +44

      Just laughed my fucking ass of after seeing this. Probably the best content I've see in quite some time.

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. Před rokem +215

    This is why they invented product managers. A good manager protects the development team from all the crap from outside requirements.

    • @U20E0
      @U20E0 Před rokem +55

      a bad manager amplifies it

    • @Rai2M
      @Rai2M Před rokem +24

      @@U20E0 Damn. You guys literally reiterated what i said a long time ago ))
      "A good product manager solves the problems, a bad one generates them" ))

    • @LabGecko
      @LabGecko Před 9 měsíci +4

      And the good are so rare

    • @user-fy6uk7en3l
      @user-fy6uk7en3l Před 2 měsíci +1

      I've experienced both the good and bad ones, and I have a genuinely deep appreciation for good product managers.

    • @traewatkins931
      @traewatkins931 Před 2 měsíci

      Wait good PMs exist?

  • @ahmedakram540
    @ahmedakram540 Před rokem +92

    As a former civil engineer and now a software engineer I assure you, You ABSOLUTELY Made The Right choice.

    • @algorev8679
      @algorev8679 Před 10 měsíci +9

      Joke aside, I'm curious about what you like better or less now compared to your previous job; what led you to change?

    • @alextrollip7707
      @alextrollip7707 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Same I'm also curious

    • @qbicc6381
      @qbicc6381 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Yep definitely, civil engineering is all about deadlines that cannot be held and having to work with people who are totally stressed because of that. Also people who make unreasonable demands because of those deadlines or you have been forced into some contract and you have to pay money for every day of delay because of that. In addition there are a lot of people who are not competent enough so you end up fixing other peoples mistakes a lot, which causes you to be late and then you have to take all the blame for some reason.

    • @SorowerHossan-kf6qp
      @SorowerHossan-kf6qp Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks for this comment akram.

    • @gogokowai
      @gogokowai Před 13 dny

      @@qbicc6381 Sounds exactly like software engineering, and I assume most other kinds of engineering for large faceless corporations

  • @SSZaris
    @SSZaris Před rokem +49

    So in scaffolding the supervisors and branch manager are ALWAYS guys who have done scaffolding. This way not only do they know the actual job being done but they have the respect of the guys doing the hard work. I rarely see this in any other profession. Seems like the programming crowd could do with a bit of this.

  • @MuhammadAli-vy2oz
    @MuhammadAli-vy2oz Před rokem +186

    This is so true. Especially the one with clients saying it's an easy fix. "I will give you 10 bucks for it" . Why waste 10 bucks on a 2 minute job. Go ahead, you'll figure it out yourself. 😂

    • @certaindeath7776
      @certaindeath7776 Před rokem +11

      thats why in agile you let the product owner make a change request ticket, then u analyze the task (and charge for the analyzis) together with the other requests, where you then say this ticket will take estimated 20 hours to implement, and let the PO decide if he still needs this small change.

  • @andrewgodby5712
    @andrewgodby5712 Před rokem +331

    My personal favorite is from the marketing 'expert' .. Just need one small change lol. Or, when non-tech people have enough leverage at a company to drive technical based decisions. Thanks for the video Fireship!

    • @destroreact5706
      @destroreact5706 Před rokem +33

      "when non-tech people have enough leverage at a company to drive technical based decisions"
      I hate this one specially. The non-tech guy makes some dumb decision that you know will cause major issues later down the line, but no one cares because you will be the one to fix it later on anyway...

  • @RealCadde
    @RealCadde Před rokem +18

    The last one is so relatable... I've been programming as a hobby (phew) for over 20 years and i can feel the frustration of finding another person with the same random obscure problem only to have them later just say "Solved" without even hinting at how they solved it anywhere.
    That should really come with a one way ticket to Guantanamo...
    Along those same lines though, when you help someone with a problem they've been having going through all the effort of detailing what went wrong and how they can fix it...
    Only for that person to literally become a ghost and never be seen or heard from again.

  • @TaHrPa
    @TaHrPa Před rokem +105

    I got a hearty laugh once when the cleaning lady said "maybe I should get into computers, all you do is sit on the computer all day and play."
    My response was "Go ahead, I'll help you study."

    • @arthurwintersight7868
      @arthurwintersight7868 Před rokem +38

      I tell people it's like writing a ten page college essay - in mathematics - and a single mistake in your ten page math essay causes the entire thing to not work.
      "Can you reliably produce ten page math essays, without so much as a single mistake? No? Then you understand my pain. Now leave my office, MORTAL!"

    • @RedMoon814
      @RedMoon814 Před rokem +11

      ​@@arthurwintersight7868 "ten page college essay in mathematics" is the best analogy I have ever heard for coding 😂
      Will be using it from now on

    • @BritishTrainspotting
      @BritishTrainspotting Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@arthurwintersight7868As someone who's currently doing an A-Level in software development... yeah that analogy is pretty accurate.

  • @zxGHOSTr
    @zxGHOSTr Před rokem +42

    The "the previous developer died of old age happened to me". His last git commits even formed a skull before he died. At first I didn't understand his code, but now I don't understand his code and also hate it.

  • @wingflanagan
    @wingflanagan Před rokem +216

    So very, very accurate. No one else in my family or circle of friends (OK, point of friend) does this, so I can't even vent to them without hearing how easy my job must be because all I have to do is sit and type all day.

    • @Entropy67
      @Entropy67 Před rokem +32

      thats annoying, how about you try to teach some of your friends how to code so that they have a little more respect lol
      if you were a physicist and you sat around writing papers all day, I doubt they would devalue your work, seems like a SE thing to me

    • @Viqtor
      @Viqtor Před rokem +54

      Doctors just sit around and pump you with meds till they work. You can oversimplify any job lol

    • @wingflanagan
      @wingflanagan Před rokem +29

      @@Viqtor Oh yeah. I exaggerated for comic effect, but only a little. My daughter actually said "I feel like your job really isn't that hard", mustering all the authority of a couple of beginner coding tutorials under her belt. Sigh. :-)

    • @kylekeenan3485
      @kylekeenan3485 Před rokem +31

      Start talking to them about space and time complexity of the Algorithm you are working on and briefly explain why it uses linear over Quadratic time and how it's represented using Big'O notation. Then watch there brains fizz up and watch the respect for the job you do increase. 😁

    • @Andreas-ov2fv
      @Andreas-ov2fv Před rokem +11

      Upvote for "point of friend", hah

  • @Irishpierre
    @Irishpierre Před rokem +21

    I can tell youre a software engineer since your videos are all short, quick, and to the point. Thank you

  • @thespelsheepington6664
    @thespelsheepington6664 Před rokem +26

    The most common nightmare error I've run into with SQL is truncation errors/numeric overflow. Ofc it can't tell me the column, so I gotta just hunt for it and run the query 20 times

    • @aeureus
      @aeureus Před rokem +4

      Fix it,
      Two other things break.

    • @the_great_9880
      @the_great_9880 Před rokem +1

      @@aeureus daily life of a programmer.

    • @aeureus
      @aeureus Před rokem +1

      @@the_great_9880 *cries in c#*

    • @the_great_9880
      @the_great_9880 Před rokem

      @@aeureus i use c# too, love it.

    • @panlis6243
      @panlis6243 Před rokem +3

      Ah yes, the ultimate debugging technique. Change random stuff and re-run it until it works

  • @thelonelyadventurer
    @thelonelyadventurer Před rokem +104

    I totally agree... we had like very close deadline for a critical workflow and this customer stucked us in a 2H meeting because they wanted me to move out damn confetti images from a text because it covered a letter only to discover the only reason why it was so, was because they manually edited their CSS with the textbox of the portal manager breaking the effing flexbox container

  • @CraigyDizzle
    @CraigyDizzle Před rokem +28

    Google tried to invoice me for $300 out of nowhere once and I was like "I tried my best to disable the service and thought it was disabled so how would I know it wasn't??" and luckily they cancelled the invoice 👀

  • @NFSHeld
    @NFSHeld Před rokem +17

    Working with an external company that does part of the programming for your company. And you notice they ship worse code than you would, with bugs and no proper documentation. Yet every time they ship some new version of their junk code you need to review it, point out all the mistakes in an e-mail that gets CC'd to 5 non-developer managers who then immediately call you to ask what the implications of those bugs are and whether or not the shipping date of next week will still hold even though it's obviously not your choice to make how long the external company takes to fix the mess they delivered.

    • @christoffer1125
      @christoffer1125 Před rokem

      This is so relatable it’s crazy. Shipping worse code AND they’re more expensive

  • @sotirioschortogiannos4363

    I am about to finish bootcamp which i am sure many may laugh at but I am doing my best. First thing I am going to do before I start any of my first tasks is make a copy of my starting point. Thanks for the advice everyone. Awesome channel Fireship!! Edit and ensure servers are protected

  • @phucnguyen0110
    @phucnguyen0110 Před rokem +57

    Yeah, the part about legacy codebase without documentations/explanations - that scares me, so much.

  • @rns2430
    @rns2430 Před rokem +11

    Lol that guy took sql injection to a whole new level 2:48

  • @-Name-here-
    @-Name-here- Před rokem +7

    I felt some of these all too well.
    The non technical person asking for an “easy and small” change, and finding a 4 year old stack overflow post with your problem and either no solution or just them saying “fixed it!”

  • @VM4RT1NV
    @VM4RT1NV Před 4 měsíci

    love this chanel, the tone, passing and the jokes! makes me feel less alone in the world. Thanks bro

  • @WolfPhoenix0
    @WolfPhoenix0 Před rokem +140

    Some of these truly speak to my soul as a software engineer (especially the "upgrading legacy app" and "one small change" scenarios)
    I've also encountered a variation of the last one where the issue I'm facing does have a Stack Overflow post but that post has NO answers. I can't tell you how many times I've run into that one. 😂

    • @DerMichael
      @DerMichael Před rokem +11

      And it's been online for years. And then you ask yourself: Are you going to solve it even though no one else ever solved it, or are you going to do it completely differently, probably like the other person did?

    • @atemoc
      @atemoc Před rokem +1

      @@DerMichael The answer is more often than not the latter.

    • @danmakufan
      @danmakufan Před rokem +5

      i do forge modding for 1.8, and sometimes some guy has the exact same problem i have, but they closed it because it's too old. it's truly a pita to go off like basically only the javadocs but you find a way ig

    • @traveller23e
      @traveller23e Před rokem

      my poor scrum master recently resorted to writing a SO post, and no replies yet :(

    • @sa1t938
      @sa1t938 Před rokem

      Or when the result is on some chinese fourm, you just gotta read the code snippets or translate the thing if you still don't understand lol

  • @haiguyzimnew
    @haiguyzimnew Před rokem +24

    @3:09 This happened to me. I had to upgrade AngularJS from v1 to Angular v11. The last guy who wrote everything and would've been a real help left the company to join a monastic order.

    • @MaryamMaqdisi
      @MaryamMaqdisi Před rokem +5

      I’d probably go to a monastic order too if I was expected to migrate something like that lol. My condolences

    • @BboyKeny
      @BboyKeny Před rokem +3

      Lol, that's not an upgrade but a rewrite in a new Framework

  • @computercrowd1064
    @computercrowd1064 Před rokem +5

    4:32 That's what git is for.

  • @ahmetsalihsavas7745
    @ahmetsalihsavas7745 Před rokem +21

    My worst fate in a game Remake I was doing in LUA script was that the script didn't work properly, But neither did it give any errors.
    I checked again and again, Even asked it in Stack Overflow just to get down voted to hell.
    God, I have never fixed bug, And don't think will work on that game anymore because that one thing was very crucial to the game.

    • @rc8s
      @rc8s Před rokem +1

      Lua is not an acronym

    • @tqrules01
      @tqrules01 Před rokem

      You where working on an open Tibia Server by any chance?

    • @Felix-dh9tl
      @Felix-dh9tl Před rokem +2

      I’ve experienced a similar problem when I was coding javascript and checked the console on chrome, didn’t give any errors, but firefox dev edition showed the issue and helped me a lot

  • @NithinJune
    @NithinJune Před rokem +8

    2:05 😆😂 I’ve literally done exactly that. One day i woke up to a google cloud platform alert that my payment declined. I removed my card, replaced it with an empty visa gift card, deleted that account and pretended that never happened.

  • @jugzster
    @jugzster Před rokem +6

    It’s truly impressive and uncanny how updated your memes are, makes your content even more entertaining 🙌🏻

  • @MagicOfDark
    @MagicOfDark Před rokem +74

    Always make sure privileges for databases are set to only what you'll need, and always backup everything.
    My worse experience is building something for 40+ hours then when it's done, realizing there was a much better way of doing it.

    • @nikolaysitnikov796
      @nikolaysitnikov796 Před rokem +20

      My worst experience (so far) was spending several hours going over code to find why it was hanging, figuring out that it was a really stupid mistake, and then realizing that the whole part of the code was useless and there was a much better way of doing it already in a library that I had installed.

    • @rwuttke
      @rwuttke Před rokem +2

      And sanitize the damn input.

  • @Omerko
    @Omerko Před rokem +2

    This was probably the most relatable video... Even EC2 AWS part was the same for me... Just amazing. Excellent job @fireship

  • @nissougotic
    @nissougotic Před rokem +66

    This really hits hard as I'm a civil engineer transitioning into tech 😂

    • @freezone7930
      @freezone7930 Před rokem +10

      Lmao why

    • @eeew2691
      @eeew2691 Před rokem +15

      @@freezone7930Do you have any idea how less civil engineers are paid for all the work they have to do in field?

    • @marktimothyadvento6305
      @marktimothyadvento6305 Před rokem +1

      I'm a civil engineer that transitioned into tech. 🤣

    • @helmetboyHD
      @helmetboyHD Před rokem

      @@marktimothyadvento6305 which tech job specifically if i may ask? I'm 18 and aspiring to become a software engineer/dev but unsure if it's the right career, this video scared me, but seeing all the comments saying they preferred tech over civil engineering is reassuring.

    • @marktimothyadvento6305
      @marktimothyadvento6305 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@helmetboyHD I'm a full stack engineer currently.
      I reached the pinacle of civil engineering construction management career as Sr. Project Manager and President before transitioning. The interviews are an uphill battle since they don't want to take chance on someone that reached something so high as a jr. software engineer. No regrets here. I am about to reach six months in my current job and loving every second of it.

  • @concernedviewer6909
    @concernedviewer6909 Před rokem +20

    Was having a crappy day and you just turned it around with this video. Thank you for the laughs, they were priceless

  • @John_Fx
    @John_Fx Před rokem +18

    Cloud computing inventors were brilliant when they came up with a business plan where you could oops your way into a bill that would make the National Debt blush,.

  • @muhammaduzair2863
    @muhammaduzair2863 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Just started my journey in Software engineering field and well yeah everything you said is 1000% true. SE is a very anxiety inducing field.Half of the time im doubting myself that im not good enough for anything 😔. All i know is PAIN 😭

  • @shootnado
    @shootnado Před rokem +68

    This is so accurate in a terrifying way.

  • @harshitbansal8539
    @harshitbansal8539 Před rokem +42

    "Chess speaks for itself" might be the best edit ever in this channels history 🤣

    • @apas
      @apas Před rokem

      This video edit speaks for itself

  • @monkey_gamer_001
    @monkey_gamer_001 Před 4 měsíci

    i don't know where fireship gets his clips and memes from, but they are top quality!!

  • @shashishekhar----
    @shashishekhar---- Před rokem

    Fireship is back, I was rolling over laughing lol , much appreciated.👍

  • @BlueJDev
    @BlueJDev Před rokem +8

    every scentence in this video was brilliant and spot on! I have genuinely encountered nearly every scenario posed here... thanks for the chuckle

  • @user-ov1nn2sr4s
    @user-ov1nn2sr4s Před rokem +14

    I remember supporting codebase with custom framework based on backbone.js. It sucked so bad, but it's a valuable experience that gave me deeper understanding of how frameworks work inside

  • @davetelekom443
    @davetelekom443 Před rokem

    Funny intro, I actually have thinking many times why I was not a civil, electric or electronic engineer, and I am not a real programmer, just working in data analytics and the IT guy in projects

  • @AwesomeDwarves
    @AwesomeDwarves Před 5 měsíci

    That last one got me good, it's not infrequent that I'll get sucked into something and miss my stand-up or another meeting. I had to start adding 1 minute reminder notifications to all of my meetings since 10 minutes was just enough to let me completely forget about a meeting by the time it was supposed to happen

  • @aaronyue9811
    @aaronyue9811 Před rokem +15

    The amount of pain experienced throughout this video cannot be quantified

  • @WARGON123
    @WARGON123 Před rokem +7

    0:22 best easter egg

  • @clarke6808
    @clarke6808 Před 3 měsíci

    Bro. Your content is gold. So many referneces to culture from now and way back and funny. I love it really, its like satire coding! . New Customer here. Cheers.

  • @Nick-wz6tz
    @Nick-wz6tz Před 11 měsíci

    Thanks, I've experienced tons of discomfort while watching this video as a developer. 100% accurate, thumbs up

  • @hypenage2415
    @hypenage2415 Před rokem +10

    The aws meme about leaving an ec2 instance on killed me 😂 I did that last month

    • @dock1804
      @dock1804 Před rokem +2

      Hahaha yeah, I also left some service running (forgot which one, it was 2 years ago). Plan was to use it for 3 hours for the price of 3$/h, but remembered 15 days later 😂. After some crying in the messages, they forgave it all. Learned the hard way how important it is to set billing alerts.

  • @Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too

    You drove me back to the nineties when I decided to make my own software company where I since have had full control.
    You're spot on in the description of the everyday life of a programmer. It is really that frustrating. You are really good at painting the picture.

  • @Eventlesstew
    @Eventlesstew Před 9 měsíci +6

    4:15 For situations like this, even if it takes extra time, I feel like it's worth adding a setting that allows you to set the navbar to the top or the bottom through the flick of a switch. If done that way, you don't have to waste time changing it back if your manager changes their mind and as an extra, you could even let the user decide where they want the navbar.

    • @harleyspeedthrust4013
      @harleyspeedthrust4013 Před 8 měsíci +6

      just revert ur master branch in vcs and rebuild, and bill the client for the hours wasted putting the navbar on the side. ez

  • @NTNscrub
    @NTNscrub Před rokem +2

    Oh god, that last one is probably the scariest. The error you have to fix either has a really simple but hidden solution or it’s a long grind that’ll take you days on end.

  • @Mateking92
    @Mateking92 Před rokem +6

    3:55 Bold of you to assume I have friends

  • @ivandashkevich3398
    @ivandashkevich3398 Před rokem +14

    "I will go to school to become a civil engineer so I could work outside building stuff everyone admires like bridges and skyscrapers"
    Masters diploma in Bridge and tunnel construction is here
    Architectural bridges are fun to design and build, sure. But they are as rare as a beautiful, well designed, documented and tested codebase. Most of the time you work on the projects that you cannot see and you can't even know that you are driving over a bridge, since it looks to you just a continuous closed highway
    Switched to frontend development for 5 years now, never been happier
    The beauty of abstractions, design solutions that just "clicks" and people's passion about technology excites me much more

    • @kickheavy8982
      @kickheavy8982 Před rokem +2

      Happy to see this comment. As someone who is considering a career in software development, videos like these have been making me wonder if it's a bad move. Nice to know that it's not complete doom and gloom for some people.

    • @shrayesraman5192
      @shrayesraman5192 Před rokem +1

      @@kickheavy8982 I'm tryna become a doctor and the same things happens. Everyone says to become a software engineer haha

    • @kickheavy8982
      @kickheavy8982 Před rokem

      @@shrayesraman5192 I can relate for sure man

    • @lamywater
      @lamywater Před rokem +2

      @@kickheavy8982 Every job has it's problems, certainly. I've enjoyed switching career to software development, but even if you end up not enjoying it that much, at least you'll still be getting a decent paycheck.

    • @kickheavy8982
      @kickheavy8982 Před rokem

      @@lamywater yeah you're right. I'm always confused when people say "don't get into it just for the money." when money is the reason why most people work most jobs.

  • @jim5148
    @jim5148 Před rokem

    Those are hilarious! And sad. I worked in a different field, but received similarly outrageous change requests, only to have them cancelled after you've done them.

  • @TheRealHoernchen
    @TheRealHoernchen Před rokem

    You got me with the discord sound lol i just checked my dc and after finding no new messages i just realized what happen

  • @mjohnson2807
    @mjohnson2807 Před rokem +24

    Top notch video every time, you are a blessing to the community good sir!

  • @hardikpatelhdhe
    @hardikpatelhdhe Před rokem +5

    *Build Failed*
    Software Engineer: 🥲
    Civil Engineer: ☠️

  • @MrRubikraft
    @MrRubikraft Před rokem +10

    So true... Right now, I'm in the "legacy code that you have to fix" and in the "you Google the error and you find a 20+ year old mail exchange talking about it that ends with 'it's all good now'."
    (I'm not kidding about the 20+ btw, any error about the TMINUIT fitter of the ROOT library of C++ is insane to solve, just look at its code if you want a heart attack.)

    • @BimmWPBS
      @BimmWPBS Před rokem

      I'm not even a programmer and I've run into this issue because it's getting harder to run older games on newer computers.

    • @migolan6606
      @migolan6606 Před rokem

      @@BimmWPBS try running them in compatibility mode for the windows version they were made for

  • @helloyes2288
    @helloyes2288 Před 9 měsíci

    lmfao i was in the MEAN stack angular update situation and you're absolutely right. Worse yet is I was like the fourth person forced to attempt the update.

  • @botcontador3286
    @botcontador3286 Před rokem +5

    This guy, some how, have figured out my life story down to the detail and made a video about it. You are a wizard my friend.

  • @bogdanstanciu701
    @bogdanstanciu701 Před rokem +21

    I love this channel, it truly speaks my mind since I can't do it myself - so instead I share this video. :)

    • @miso1995srb
      @miso1995srb Před rokem +1

      I program for 8 years and never had a similar problem, you can always avoid/solve them

  • @entitythatyounevermet

    Hey mate, love the contents. I can relate most of them to my day to day work... lol :D

  • @MayaUndefined
    @MayaUndefined Před 8 měsíci +1

    1993: "it works on my machine"
    2023: "it works in my container"

  • @flamakespark
    @flamakespark Před rokem +7

    0:22 That bridge joke was LIT! 🔥😂

  • @SamarthPusalkar
    @SamarthPusalkar Před rokem +11

    I am not even full time software developer yet, still I have gone through literally every thing in this in my internships

  • @mateusmattossabarreto2852
    @mateusmattossabarreto2852 Před 8 měsíci +2

    It's 10pm now and I've beem trying to solve a "small change" a client asked for since 9am and the worst part is that I charged less than half of what the project is actually worth because after so many months searching for a job I finally found one and I'm super scare to lose it

    • @user-gi7vi9gm4t
      @user-gi7vi9gm4t Před 3 měsíci

      how long did it take you ( or are you still working on it)

  • @jgunnink3
    @jgunnink3 Před rokem

    Dude, your video edits are fire

  • @dcknature
    @dcknature Před rokem +7

    Thumbs up for including the destroyed bridge joke 🤣. Thank you 👍!

    • @AndriiStaryk
      @AndriiStaryk Před rokem

      Yea it was funny, and tbh I wasn’t even expecting this picture in this video😂

  • @dreamisover9813
    @dreamisover9813 Před rokem +3

    We had a team in uni that caused quite a big payment for I think wither aws or some MS Power BI, can't remember which. But that was quite the shock for many there, they did it for their project

  • @smudgepost
    @smudgepost Před rokem

    I think you might be carving a niche for a Calvin and Hobbs style comic strip, but with dry, introvert tech jokes. This was very enjoyable to watch!

  • @guse7688
    @guse7688 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm planning on working in software development, so this is great to hear 👍

  • @kennikollemorten4184
    @kennikollemorten4184 Před rokem +3

    This is the funniest coding video I ever saw. 😂🤣😂 really good job 😜

  • @doskelfsy
    @doskelfsy Před rokem +6

    This provided me another level of anxiety 🥶🥶 Thnx Jeff!

  • @iamshokuannobi
    @iamshokuannobi Před rokem

    BROTHER, YOU ARE THE BEST!!! You oooh really helped me!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

  • @bmmartin1684
    @bmmartin1684 Před rokem +26

    My superior changes the spec daily. "Martin, I want you to add this to the class and make sure the APIs do this." Two days later, "You know what, never mind. I don't know what I was thinking". He does not know how refactoring Java code is a nightmare.

    • @kebien6020
      @kebien6020 Před rokem +16

      That's not a spec change. That's micromanagement. The spec shouldn't have any opinion on things like classes

    • @PatriceStoessel
      @PatriceStoessel Před rokem +1

      @@kebien6020 But the spec has to specify interfaces of the system

  • @_edd.ie_.o.8101
    @_edd.ie_.o.8101 Před rokem +4

    3:16 Brayden you are still missed🥲

  • @blackhole724
    @blackhole724 Před rokem

    oh, just hearing these things are so painful in my heart
    people who we work with always seem so dumb that they never get how hard some of their requests are
    I literally cry out loud if someone says that he/she understands and feels sorry for these

  • @shrijanmaram7939
    @shrijanmaram7939 Před rokem

    I absolutely dreaded this video, great work!

  • @GGdevelopment
    @GGdevelopment Před rokem +3

    Your content never ceases to amuse me 😂

  • @osknyo
    @osknyo Před rokem +37

    It's scary how accurate this is lmfao, but I do love being a dev

  • @tylerpetersen6226
    @tylerpetersen6226 Před rokem +2

    Me being a test lead on a project that has an accessibility component for ADA compliance for a new webpage we are developing. It is always a nightmare having to get the UI/UX developer, product owner and tech lead in the same call and going through the laundry list of violations I have found. Then having to work on redesigning the page based on those needs such as buttons being hidden when not scrolled over and outside the tab indexing to seemingly simple color contrast redesigns it is always a headache for me and the developers to fix all these "small changes" that need to go through the approval process.

  • @alextrollip7707
    @alextrollip7707 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Man what a note to end on. Daily meeting arent great(especially when some people want to talk about life EVERY meeting)
    Like it's a standup, and I've got work to do.
    The worst is the ones where you have a meeting with a PM, then a in house meeting. Then a meeting with client.
    All discussing the same things.
    Hours down the drain for a third of the benefit

  • @LupoTosk96
    @LupoTosk96 Před rokem +4

    "how does changing the button take so long?"
    Because the clients system doesn't let me even write any code, their backend is made of framesets and their documentation was made even before that time...