Are these the best PAF humbuckers?

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
  • Are these the best PAF humbuckers? Classic tone, sensible price. If you want classic tone at a sensible price then you should seriously consider the Tonerider Alnico II classics PAF humbucker set. These PAF humbuckers have alnico II magnets, 7.5k ohms in the nek, 8.3k ohms in the bridge and only cost £90!
    A vintage PAF is generally between 7.5k and 9k ohms and probably uses an Alnico II or Alnico V magnet, however studies into these shows they also frequently used Alico III and Alnico IV magnets.
    We shot these Tonerider PAF humbuckers out against the Gibson Burstbucker 1 and 2 set which is stock in a Gibson Les Paul standard and what I consider my favourite humbuckers, Monty's Guitars Full Monty in the bridge and Monty's Guitars Retro Wind in the neck.
    These budget PAF humbuckers really shone when playing individual notes, so if you're looking for the best budget PAF or a Gibson PAF alternative then these are probably the best option.
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Komentáře • 102

  • @keeff
    @keeff Před rokem +281

    Would have been nice to hear the guitars in tune

    • @devinj
      @devinj Před rokem +8

      Seriously! All of them were out too haha

    • @JayOneAlumni
      @JayOneAlumni Před rokem +10

      that and with the same guitar! makes it pointless with different guitars

    • @R.Stridstrom
      @R.Stridstrom Před rokem +16

      First thing that struck me, first strum.
      I dont get how you could do all this work and dont even hear that you are out of tune.
      Tuner ?

    • @USMarine75
      @USMarine75 Před rokem +7

      The green one and the Chapman were painfully out of tune.

    • @LordFingers1
      @LordFingers1 Před rokem +4

      Painfully out of tune

  • @unabonger777
    @unabonger777 Před rokem +37

    I would try tuning it before changing pickups, you might be surprised

  • @allenanderson6430
    @allenanderson6430 Před rokem +36

    I love this concept for a video, but please friends, tune that guitar! It's so hard to focus on anything else when my ears are so focused on it not being in tune.

  • @patrickhernandez9529
    @patrickhernandez9529 Před měsícem +1

    Can't believe we have two guitars dudes, playing guitar on a guitar themed yt channel and they play three guitars which aren't in tune...... Bloody hell

  • @silverwings1843
    @silverwings1843 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!! You would think you would have spent some effort in TUNING. Each was way out of tune!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @davidwest8140
    @davidwest8140 Před rokem +8

    I'm more drawn to the tones when the guitar is in tune..... Lose.all interest in the tone when the guitars are out of tune unfortunately.
    Nice comparison though.

  • @SouthpawSatch
    @SouthpawSatch Před rokem +7

    Just goes to show how excellent the Tone Riders are, I have used used them for years and ive always been impressed by the quality for the price. I have monty's in a les paul too and I love them equally.

  • @Great-Documentaries
    @Great-Documentaries Před 11 měsíci +3

    My CV Squier Strat Deluxe HSHS came with a set of these (alone with the Tonerider Surfari in the mid position) back in 2014. Glad to see others are finally discovering what I learned nearly a decade ago!

  • @wareloski2137
    @wareloski2137 Před rokem +3

    Biggest difference was Guitar 2 being out of tune

  • @thelolguy007
    @thelolguy007 Před rokem +4

    Suppose it’s only fair that all guitars were out of tune 🤷‍♂️

  • @thelolguy007
    @thelolguy007 Před rokem +4

    I had to stop after 2 mins guys. Tune the guitars, please

  • @bitodin
    @bitodin Před 6 měsíci +4

    Is this a blind test on which guitar is in tune?

  • @panumattila1253
    @panumattila1253 Před rokem +4

    Toneriders actually sound incredibly great!

  • @alexstrums
    @alexstrums Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great review guys! I dropped in a set of Tonerider AC2's to replace Burstbucker 1&2 in my 2022 Gibson LP Standard. I found the BB's were way too bright and I could never dial them to my liking. I find the AC2's neck pickup can be quite dark for playing clean (through a Fender style blackface) so I usually use an EQ pedal to bring out some of the brightness and clarity. If I'm using a drive or fuzz pedal, the bassy-ness it has makes for an awesome tone. You kinda get the best of both worlds when you use an EQ pedal with this pickup. The bridge pickup is fantastic. This set are not going anywhere for a looooong time!

  • @MortandHarley
    @MortandHarley Před 10 měsíci +2

    Ever heard of a guitar tuner???

  • @VanjaSpirin
    @VanjaSpirin Před 9 měsíci +2

    I use Toreriders for years. They are the best sounding pickups to my taste. Better than SD or Dimarzios.Other great brand of cheap but very good pickups is Donlis.

  • @canadianintheukbrian
    @canadianintheukbrian Před 6 měsíci

    it's great to know that you don't need to break the bank to obtain a decent bucker, for some us mortals who don't own Les Pauls but Les Paul types like my Vintage V100 this is a perfect upgrade definitely something I will be looking at in the future along with the pots and switches

  • @DBroce
    @DBroce Před rokem +2

    As said below, how can I take you seriously when you’re doing a demo with an out of tune guitar.

  • @edwinwise6751
    @edwinwise6751 Před rokem +4

    I have used tone riders . They are real improvement over stock pieces

    • @juffurey
      @juffurey Před 11 měsíci

      Seems like anything is an improvement in a guitar that costs up to $800, ridiculous, luckily really good pickups can be found for really good prices now.

  • @Apollwn
    @Apollwn Před rokem +4

    Every Tonerider humbucker that I have tried (Alnico II, Alnico IV, Rocksong, Brmingham) was fantastic... but weren't the results of your test always going to be influenced by the fact that the pickups are installed in guitars that are extremely different?

  • @sadowskihomestudio
    @sadowskihomestudio Před rokem +2

    Why?! Why is these guitar permanently out of tune? 😱

  • @jnuhjnuh
    @jnuhjnuh Před rokem +4

    Tune guitars 1 and 2, please.

  • @KozmykJ
    @KozmykJ Před 9 měsíci +1

    IronGear do Very good pickups as well And cost less than the Toneriders.
    I had to decide between them for two guitar upgrades and that 20% tipped the scales.

  • @zeffneeson5214
    @zeffneeson5214 Před rokem +2

    Iron gear are another amazing budget pickup I have in a few of my guitars and they absolutely hold their own and build quality is expensive pickups are a farse👌definitely needed a tune up tho

  • @mistergoat7357
    @mistergoat7357 Před rokem +2

    I’m only hearing 2-3 strings on the strum and it’s out of tune. Good pickups have string clarity. All 6 of them buggers… it can be done.. if this maker is poorly represented, you owe them money for lost sales and I would take action to remove this video…
    Exiting before the 5 minute mark..

  • @schubiduba1
    @schubiduba1 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Pls tune the guitars before and set the intonation correctly

  • @francoislepage8227
    @francoislepage8227 Před 6 měsíci

    Guitars are not in tune :( but I can confirm the Toneriders alnico2 are stunning, I've a set in my Gibson LP R7 and they are unbelievebly great...

  • @adonikam1
    @adonikam1 Před 9 měsíci

    Demarzio Super Distortion in the bridge and Demarzio Super 2 in the neck position. POW!!!

  • @conordyer2307
    @conordyer2307 Před rokem +3

    Tonerider were half the cost only a few years ago when I picked up 2 sets, along with a set of vanson alnico 2 pickups and a set of wilkinson alnico 5 pafs...they are all great pickups and were the same price but tonerider is the only one that increased their costs over the years.
    That why another test like this with wilkinson, vanson and artec alnico pickups would be a great test to compare even cheaper pickups than tonerider
    It would show how big brand like Seymour duncan, fender and gibson rip you off just to maintain license fees or the cost of their guitars.....300-500 for burstbuckers is a joke as they know you could buy a harley benton and b.buckers and tonewise it's essentially a gibson without the name on the headstock.
    Pickups are literally just plastic ,wire and magnets, no magic.......
    The amount of winds and magnet choice give it its voice which make many pickups very similar
    so expensive pickups your paying for the name and are not any better or worse than established cheaper brands

    • @alvaroruizruiz7538
      @alvaroruizruiz7538 Před 9 měsíci

      Between the tonerider alnico 2 and vanson 57 which ones do you think are better? Are they any different really?

  • @ronaldgoebel2174
    @ronaldgoebel2174 Před rokem +2

    Be nice if you were IN TUNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @mrtumnusmusic
    @mrtumnusmusic Před 8 měsíci

    That Burstbucker bridge pickup sounded amazing.

  • @adrian_V99
    @adrian_V99 Před rokem

    Goo' day , Mr Phero Tone. A PAF is a 'patented applied for HB' and you're quite right they are at the same time the lowest output mass-manufactured ones. The II's all the more so. Cheers!

  • @cwmims
    @cwmims Před 11 měsíci +1

    It's so important to tune the guitar first before doing a demo fellas. :(

  • @SoloSi2024
    @SoloSi2024 Před 4 měsíci

    All sounded great. Tricky as different guitars will sound different with the same pickups. Love low output buckers, you can get nice cleans too. Surprised on the hum you got when engaging the drive pedal with the Toneriders.

  • @bigstick5278
    @bigstick5278 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Scary that you can't hear your guitar is out of tune..

  • @1stezekiel
    @1stezekiel Před rokem

    i was surprised by the "open sound" of these pic ups. they are great.

  • @schou1170
    @schou1170 Před 2 měsíci

    How about tuning up, guys?!?

  • @juffurey
    @juffurey Před 11 měsíci

    when compared with the Gibson pickups I actually prefer the Tonerider alnico 4 ones. Just a bit more bite but not in the same way as the Gibsons.

  • @KozmykJ
    @KozmykJ Před 9 měsíci

    Output is Not measured in Ohms ...
    While DC resistance Can give a rough clue as to the output of a pickup, it is not at all the only factor.

  • @geckobaldy
    @geckobaldy Před 9 měsíci

    I have TR A4s in a LP a like. Very nice pups but I'm back using my Gibby 2004 LPS with BB Pros

  • @nickiden
    @nickiden Před rokem

    Awesome video. Those pick ups sound awesome

  • @BarbarasMilk
    @BarbarasMilk Před 9 měsíci +1

    There's tuning or intonation issues with your guitars.

  • @evankolpack
    @evankolpack Před 5 měsíci

    I can't take any "musician" seriously who can't hear something obviously, painfully out of tune or time.

  • @x7stringinJSCx
    @x7stringinJSCx Před 2 měsíci

    Next time test out Tuner Pedals. See which is more accurate.

  • @DennyBob521
    @DennyBob521 Před 3 měsíci

    The guitar with the Monties pickups has intonation/tuning issues. Not sure what you used to amplify, mic, record these, but none of them sound good clean in this presentation.

  • @Frapzoid
    @Frapzoid Před rokem +1

    Paf? How about calling them P-A-F as in Patent Applied For? I like the way the "Lezzzz" Paul sounds. Why do the British say Lezzz Paul instead of Les Paul?

    • @KozmykJ
      @KozmykJ Před 9 měsíci

      Because the name Les short for Leslie is way more common than Les short for Lester ...

    • @Frapzoid
      @Frapzoid Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@KozmykJ So English people don't know his name was Lester oooops I mean LEZTER? 🤣

  • @CastlesMadeOf...
    @CastlesMadeOf... Před rokem +1

    Be good to hear them all in the same guitar - PITA I know but... SUBBED!!

    • @PherotoneStudios
      @PherotoneStudios  Před rokem +2

      I totally agree. I’ve almost finished building a guitar with a quick-change ability for comparisons. Just need to work out the wiring

    • @CastlesMadeOf...
      @CastlesMadeOf... Před rokem

      @@PherotoneStudios interesting 🤔

  • @SLO7HProductions
    @SLO7HProductions Před 7 měsíci

    Aren't anybody doing any high gain metal sound comparisons anymore?

  • @geckobaldy
    @geckobaldy Před 9 měsíci

    All 3 guitars out of tune by exactly the same amount. Genius.

  • @LeeKirkman88
    @LeeKirkman88 Před rokem

    Immediately i went for 3 which is the tonerider.

  • @stewarttomkinson3356
    @stewarttomkinson3356 Před 9 měsíci

    B Y O ARE PAF AND SOUND GREAT

  • @benjamingreenlee8964
    @benjamingreenlee8964 Před 4 měsíci

    How can you get multiple guitars that far out of tune all in the same way?? It’s almost like you guys are just gear gear gear and don’t really actually play….

  • @Musicology1975
    @Musicology1975 Před rokem

    Amazing quality from tonerider

  • @skaboosh
    @skaboosh Před 8 měsíci

    You have to play dynamically to test pickups, the Monty's respond dynamically brilliantly... Just strumming like that is just not that helpful

    • @skaboosh
      @skaboosh Před 8 měsíci

      And the picking, vary the strength... "play" the pickups.....

  • @Geert890
    @Geert890 Před 5 měsíci

    What the fuck is that tuning on guitar 2

  • @joekelly9369
    @joekelly9369 Před měsícem

    No 1 others are bright

  • @hank6429
    @hank6429 Před 5 měsíci

    Why is the guitar out of tune

  • @USMarine75
    @USMarine75 Před rokem

    Worst explanation of what a PAF pickup is. Well maybe that’s what a “Paff” is. 😂

  • @RyanMaloneymusic
    @RyanMaloneymusic Před 4 měsíci

    Tuning ahhhh

  • @jerrysolonsmith8471
    @jerrysolonsmith8471 Před 11 měsíci

    Guys..... Why are we filming videos with our of tube guitars.... It's so distracting i can't take the video seriously.

  • @TylerAnselmo11
    @TylerAnselmo11 Před 7 dny

    gitar 2 sounds out of tune

  • @colinfreeman-ib1zz
    @colinfreeman-ib1zz Před 6 měsíci

    Different guitars, some more out of tune than others; not a fair comparison.

  • @user-lv7ph7hs7l
    @user-lv7ph7hs7l Před 7 měsíci

    Yeah unwatchable... they aren't slightly out of tune.

  • @waterforlife1968
    @waterforlife1968 Před 6 měsíci

    Tune your guitars before making a video.

  • @ALANRMOREY
    @ALANRMOREY Před 7 měsíci

    Tune . Tune .tune dont be s.t.u.p.i.d.

  • @donkeevney
    @donkeevney Před 4 měsíci

    All sound the same

  • @Cinnemax77
    @Cinnemax77 Před 2 měsíci

    Wow dude that sounds like shit

  • @dickey335
    @dickey335 Před rokem +1

    It’s pronounced “pea-ay-ef” not “paff”. 👍😉

    • @Dad-Gad
      @Dad-Gad Před rokem

      Not it isn't , nobody said you had to pronounce it that way ever .

  • @ktyuiytr
    @ktyuiytr Před 6 měsíci

    But guitar has tone button. You should use it. Example sound is muddy and dull then just use tone button.

  • @peterm3964
    @peterm3964 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Learn how to tune up .