How To Prep Your Sub floor For Luxury Vinyl Flooring
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There are a million videos on how to do stuff like this, but this channel is the only one I've found that gets into the "gotchas" of getting the job done. Construction is never as easy as it seems, and random, unexpected pain points always come up. This channel addresses those very well. That kind of quality can only come from someone who's done this a thousand times.
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What is so interesting is none of it is random. This is all procedural.
Agreed on all points. This channel is solid gold
I'm a licensed for 20 years finish carpenter, not a flooring guy, but doing my own flooring now. I really appreciate your videos, really sincere, easy to follow, and don't waste time with useless talk. Thank you very much for the great info! If you're ever up in the northwest, drop in for a beer!
This has turned into one of my favorite CZcams channels. Thanks for your insight and sharing!
Nothing warms my heart better than to see a good man down on his knees working hard with a vacuum cleaner in hand! lol Thank you guys for the video.
LOL Thanks Sandi I needed that. Cheers!
My favorite DIY channel on CZcams.
Thanks for all the work your doing to help the Do-it yourself-ers out there!
glad to help!
Great video, but just a warning to anyone that buys that simple prep premix floor patch (like I did) if you have any sense of hurry. It dries in 4 hours, and shrinks like crazy, so count on a second application. Patching kills a day, assuming you don't find a bad staple later and need to do another patch round. Use this only if you want an excuse to stop and watch a few ball games. Pros use Ardex/Henry because it dries in 15 minutes.
This video came just in time; I'm just getting ready to start the flooring in my bathroom, thank you
This flooring is awesome in the bathroom. If you have a good subfloor you don't need to add the extra layer. just a 6 mil plastic will do.
This is the second video of yours I have watched. Very good info, good detail, including the why as well as how.
Jeff you freaking rock. I love watching this because it’s just so interesting even though I’ll probably never do a lot of this.
Never say never..... The future can be surprising.
Excellent video! I'm tearing tile out of my kitchen because it is broken because when they put it in they did not get the floor level. I'm going to install vynol flooring. Thanks for the tips.
So that's what that box of staples in my shop are for. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything so well.
You've just convinced me I need to purchase a crown staple gun. Off to the hardware store I go! Love your informative videos - thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Best videos for DIY help! A great teacher!!
Great video man!!
I love the way you explain every detail from now on I will be your grass hopper
Best DIY channel by far that i've seen. Thanks for taking your time and sharing your expertise
Our pleasure Rich. Cheers!
This is brilliantly helpful. Thank you for putting the video up.
I love you omg finally someone knows what here talking about
You did it again. We just bought 7mm EVP flooring. Floor is unleveled 1 1\2 . You made this type of prepping floor look easy. I'm about to look at your next video on vunyl floor install. Thank you
Right on, Cheers and have a great install. make sure to watch the newer longer version with all the install tips. Cheers!
Thank you so much, for sharing your expertise, Jeff Thornman! I will check out your other videos.
Cheers Anna!
Extremely knowledgeable! Now I know why there's a nail showing under my vinyl floor! The installer did not use crown nails.
That is too bad. You could try a scalpel and glue down the flap after repairing it. But I would try in a closet first to see if you will like the result.
Never have I ever met a house with a straight/square wall, a straight flat piece of timber/wood, or even a house, lol....
Love your little "nuggets" of wisdom & quips.
Cheers, A
Cheers!
Glad you use Norbord flooring :) made with love :)
Explained very well, good job
ok super helpful video. just about to lay over fresh subfloor with screw indents and joins between the ply floor. Need to fill all the voids first. Didn't think of that being an issue. Thanks!
As a new subscriber I find your videos very helpful and you make everything you do look so simple. Keep up the great work on the channel!
Thank you, We are trying to bring great info with a little style. We hope you like our new videos as well.
Pure gold - thank you for sharing your time and expertise! And great job on the video, Max. BTW, told my wife you said I needed the crown staple gun in case you get a call from a strange lady. :) You have a new fan and subscriber. If you're ever in Calgary, coffee is on me!
Reviewing this one for flooring options. It just hit me, I haven’t seen you do a stamped concrete floor. If no one in Canada wants it, you can do mine in Arizona.
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Thank you again for the high quality beautiful videos!
Thanks Red Yumi, good to hear from you again.Cheers
Excellent lessons. I'd like to pursuit this career :). Thank you.
Hey Jeff,
Would you recommend using self leveler on the subfloor before putting the 1/4" underlayment to help flatten out the floor?
Thank you for details video, how do we prep for a new sheet vinyl floor on top of an existing one, will you please have a video about the prep? Thank you
Oh my gosh, this is eerily timely. We just this morning discovered the sub floor in our hallway bathroom is totally effed. We are definitely less stressed about it now! Thank you!
I'm thinking we should just go ahead and make it a wet room, I think it's called, so we never have to do this again. I'll peruse your videos to see if you've covered that topic.
Thanks again. As first time homeowners with seemingly never ending house issues and no experience, your videos are quite valuable.
The secret is too remove all the flooring back to original and then add the correct strength to the floor as required in your area. Usually 1 1/4 inches
Home RenoVision DIY Easy enough! Thanks!
Do you have a favorite waterproofing product? Like redguard, or something?
I like Mapei aqua defense.
Thanks a lot!!!
You are my hero
Thanks for the great demo/tutorial video!
So, I'm putting LVP in my kitchen. I have the floor base, (1929 home), with a linoleum layer, a masonite layer, then the same grade/color/style of linoleum on top. I'm taking off the top linoleum and masonite, and finding 6D nails every 5-6 inches. pulling them up leaves the hole with a divot. should I fill those in? or leave it be. I don't want the nails to pop up into the LVP, so I am pulling them all. Would a flooring patch similar to what you used in this video be advisable? suggestions?
nice video Jeff, I will be doing this same project soon. Looking forward to the flooring install video.
That will be next week! This product is awesome by the way. I hope that video helps you out Jeff.
Greetings Sir Jeff!
I’ve been watching your GREAT videos (highlighting the deck videos) for quite a while since I saw your video last time about duct installation. I instantly subscribed to your channel because I know this is useful and fun at the same time. I used it and showed it to my report in our mechanical engineering laws, codes and practices class, and they liked it a lot!
Watching your videos inspires me to own a home in a suburb! Thanks again Sir, you’re awesome!
Thank you Jowett Millan, It is an honor to hear that you have been inspired. Thank you for your comment and all the best to you with your studies. Cheers!
These videos have helped me out A LOT thank you!!
Our pleasure!
I just removed glued down carpet pad from an OSB subfloor, to avoid trying to scrape all the glue up can I just add a new 1/4” subfloor on top? I plan to use a floating engineered vinyl plank for the finished floor.
Just joined. Been watching so many of your videos and by far, you're the best DIY person on the market. You know what's going on, you are always wanting to learn more about the industry, and you have easily saved me thousands of dollars. Liked, subbed, joined.
Informative video
Thanks
I'm looking at removing tile and install vynil, im hoping it'll go well
removing tile is work. but a new floor is worth it. Cheers!
You know your stuff dude. Great info!
Can you pour self leveling underlayment material instead of plywood underlayment for your LVT?
Just found your channel as am thinking about re-doing my bathroom. Gotta say, your A-Z videos are amazing and i have learned SO MUCH and feel very comfortable to throw my two cents at it. One thing im missing would be how to make a tilted bathroom floor (to guide water to the drain). Other than that great work, amazing channel and subscribed! :)
Schluter systems makes a pre formed shower pan that does this perfect. All you do is drop it in and add tile.
Yeah i noticed that - except i live in Denmark on the other side of earth ;)
Also my bathroom is a small 1x3 meters (apartment), so everything counts as a wetroom and i cant make a closed off shower due to piping and dimensions. So everytime i shower everything gets wet .. its pretty normal to have bathrooms like that here. The floor however is horrible and isnt angled towards the drain, so it gathers as a pool in the middle instead. So im assuming i would need to do it by hand with cement instead of the Schluter system?
Lovin’ the channel Jeff! Would this same technique work going over old shiplap subfloor, or would you recommend something thicker? Not terrible but there are some thickness difference here and there. Finished floor will be a decent laminate I believe.
Do you have to install 1/4 in plywood on top of a basement subfloor (like dri-core) before installing vinyl plank? I've seen lots of SPC installation notes saying you cannot install SPC on top of any flooring (does that include dri-core?). Love your videos!!
Great video. Look forward to the Luxury Vinyl Plank flooring installation. I have done some before and I have another job coming up but I'm looking for your tips and tricks. Thanks for sharing.
That video is coming out next week. Thanks for the comment! cheers!
As a flooring professional for 40+ years, I couldn't find much fault with this video... except for how you stapled the underlayment down. When the panel is butted next to a previously installed panel, as in your example, it should be LIGHTLY butted (some underlayment manuf. require a tiny gap) and fastened on the long edge first, then the short edge that abuts the existing panels. Then, beginning in the corner nearest the adjoining panels, fasten in a fan shape (about 4" apart for quarter-inch, slightly farther apart for thicker panels) until you reach the far corner. This helps push all the warped fullness out, instead of trapping it and causing out-of-square gaps when you install the next panel.
Thanks Jim, I have never thought of the fan shape before. usually I have found it enough to just work right to left. But I can see it's merits. Will try on the next one.Thank you and Cheers!
What do you think of using floor leveler for vinyl like they do for tile?
Thanks for your help!
Great information. Thanks for your videos. Very informative!
Thanks Jeffrey, we appreciate the comment. Glad to help!
Looking forward to the vinyl floor installation video.
Me too.Cheers!
Can’t wait for the vinyl install!
Only 6 days left.Cheers!
Excellent! Very helpful.
Thanks again for anther awesome video. Have a great day Jeff :)
Thank you Andrew. We really appreciate the comment.
Thank you! You’re awesome💕
Thanks, Always good to her from our audience.
As a 'Professional DIY' I have found your practical demos are a valuable source of information, especially when you demonstrate the common mistakes. Thank you.
Question: I am installing vinyl planking (LVP) to the entire main floor. In areas such as a perpendicular transition or butting up against a stair nosing transition piece, you cannot lock the cutoff ends into the transition pleace. What is the best method to solve this situation and if it's glue what is the correct type of glue to use when gluing the planking which has a rubber type backing?
This might be coming too late but what I did in my house for the LVP on stairs was using a product brand Bostik's "climb" or "treadlock" adhesive to fasten down those planks. Stair nosing is meant to overlay the LVP, so just make sure it's overlaid enough to prevent any gaps from showing on the coldest day of the year. My LVP has cork backing, but since you're working with rubber backing, I might suggest scuffing the backside with some sandpaper if you're concerned about proper adhesion. Hope I could help at least a little.
Thanks for making the videos. Just so I am clear. If I have oriented strand board down now and want to install vinyl flooring. It would be best to laydown a smoother plywood. This would I assume reduce a waive pattern that can create over time. Thanks
I installed sheet vinyl flooring to my dad's small bathroom a few years ago. It was just loose lay over old vinyl flooring. He had me take measurements, but I'm not worth a crap with a tape measure for carpentry. I kept measuring the same things over and over again like I had OCD. I told my dad I'd rather get contractor's paper and make a pattern. I've been sewing and making patterns for decades, and that's what I'm used to. He scoffed at the idea and looked at me like I was a complete idiot and insisted on using the tape measure. Needless to say, it took me about an hour to do the measurements and draw a picture of what I was doing so my dad would understand. When I did cut the vinyl flooring, there was excess in some spots and shortages in other spots. It doesn't look great, but it covered the ugly 1970s vinyl flooring we used to have. If I'd had the time and patience and no one looking over my shoulder and screaming at me constantly, I probably would've done it the way I wanted to and did a better job.
perhaps we could do a video on that as well. Cheers to gettin er done.
Thanks for another excellent video! I thought luxury vinyl planks such as Kardean could be installed directly concrete? no need for plywood?
This is a most excellent video! Thank you :-)
Hi there! Love you channel!! I have a question in regards to prepping my subfloors for tile. We recently had an addition done for a dining room. The subfloors are brand new 1/2" plywood. I'm going to lay tile down. I was told by someone to use durock on top of the plywood, underneath the tile... Now I understand it should be used for waterproofing, like bathrooms, etc. But is it necessary for tiling our new dining room addition?? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP! :-)
Great instruction. Thank you
Cheers!
I have a kitchen that has this deep grrove tile. I would love to do vinyl plank do to its water resistance. Would u recommend lifting the old floor or just leave it to not harm the subfloor and put plank over tile ?
Great video. I'm planning to install engineering hardwood myself. My house is a new build, so I'm wondering if there's anything I should watch out for during the subfloor preparation.
Engineered hardwood installs with glue or staples depending on the substrate. Just make sure if you are using staples to but the right length. You don't want to go too deep and risk puncturing your mechanical systems.
Maaaaan your Drill make a hell of a noice its so loud and noicie
Amazing videos as always, good work
Thank You Sami, good to hear from you again. cheers!
Hello, can you use the the crown stapler to join the plywood to concrete base or tile base?
Question: 5x5' bathroom, putting vinyl planks, SmartCore Pro. But, would love to put the vinyl floating underneath heavy vanity. Vanity is not square base, but could cut vinyl carefully into notches. But best look would be vanity sitting on vinyl. Floor is straight, experienced with other bathroom vinyl. Vanity probably weighs about 150 lbs. Will this cause buckling and warping against the locking grooves? Or install on subfloor and cut vinyl around vanity?
Excellent video man!
Do u have to cover the gap with thin set and carbon fiber tape between tow plywood underlayment if u use laminate flooring sine i use 5/8 plywood to raise the subfloor thx
Hello sir, can you add glue under the new subfloor before nailing ? Like classic wood clue, rolled with a roller ? :)
should I remove the old sub floor first? Then lay the new sub floor ? Or can I lay the new sub floor and then 1/8 plywood sheets to make the floor smooth?
thank you for the video it helps a lot. I’m in the middle of remodeling my house I just bought and your videos helped out a lot. I wasn’t really paying attention to the name of your CZcams station but are you from Reno. I live in Dayton.
I’m insulating my sunroom and putting down a 1” rigid foam on top of my 1.25” subfloor and then topping it with a layer of luan. The staples nailer does hold 2” nails. Can I use my 16 gauge trim nailer?
Another great video!👍👍👍☺
Hello Sir, great video.. as usual. Question: Vinyl planks over 33x33cm tiles/70 sqm. Yes or No. Some say yes - you say no. Should we rip out the tiles? Please say No.
Can you I use a crown stapler for 1/2 inch plywood in this same exact application?
Nice video. I am planning to try and do my neighbors kitchen floor with vinyl planks, she has linoleum now I think will need to be taken up first, and the lauan wasn't looking too hot when I looked at it from the vent so I might have to tear that up and put down a new layer. Is there a reason you used staples instead of nails? I use ryobi and they have a nail gun but not sure they have a staple gun so was going to use that. Also if the floor needs to be leveled would I just use some type of self leveler, and if so would I do that before the lauan or after?
Good video, Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Edward. Cheers!
Thank you!!
I am installing plywood over my subfloor to prepare for vinyl flooring and leveling. I do not have a nail-gun. Does it have to be screwed or glued? Is there a nail I can hammer in? How far apart?
😳 6:10 *I do this by doing an 'ice skating' motion in my socks* ... *I wouldn't advise using your feet to check for sharp bits though.*
I ripped up high quality Vinyl to re-use at cottage bathroom......all backing is clean (wasn't glued heavily), so am I OK to just spread adhesive to OSB flooring and lay the, or should I add plywood before installing. It's abouty 80 sq ft bathroom at cottage.
...and thanks for all your informative Videos.
Hey jeff thanks for the video but I haven’t seen one with my situation hope you can help me out before I move forward. I have tiles in half of the area I want to install deluxe vinyl but the other have has carpet and the subfloor is concrete, so if I pill the Cary I’ll have 1/2 gap between the tile and concrete, I’ll like to have no transition at all so do you think it’s the best option to pull the tile or maybe put concrete boards to be a the same level..hope you can help or someone out there
I think we use masonite under Vinyl flooring here in Australia. Smooth as a babies bottom.
Very cool to hear! Thanks Michael. Cheers
Could you put something like that thin wood over an old hardwood floor and use self leaving compound on it?
Just discovered you, you are the best! Quick question: I have contractors renovating my fixer upper. They put a new subfloor in the living room. My adjoinig kitchen floor is old hardwood. I was hoping to refinish the hardwood but it's not in the best shape. And because of the different floor heights ( I think the house was originally 2 houses joined together) the new living room subfloor almost exaclty matches the height of the kitchen hardwood floor now. Can I just lay a thin plywood over the entire kitchen hardwood and living room subfloor and then lay the underlayment throughout the kitchen and living room for my new vinyl flooring? Thanks in advance to anyone reading this and who responds.
Thanks for this awesome video. Do I need a sub floor for laminated floor ? In the living room Under my carpet I have plywood but on my kitchen I have vinyl floor and it have sub floor underneath of it and now I have a 3/16 of a inch difference between the two floors
just lift the subfloor under the vinyl and it will all be flat. Cheers! the subfloor is attached with staples and comes up really easy!
Nice video, i dont have anything special to say this time but it woulf be rude not to comment lo. Have a nice day
Thank you for the comment Kevin. Cheers!
Great information.
One thing I've noticed about the divots, bumps, etc in vinyl floors, they really, really show up in real estate photos!!
just nasty!
That was worth the time
Great information..love your workflow
Can't believe I missed this comment. Thanks dude!
Home RenoVision DIY no worries..i came back to watch it again..good to refresh
Awesome video, I absolutely love your channel. I’m about to try and install click laminate, but in removing the old parquet flooring, ruts and gouges were left throughout the entire subfloor. I’ve had someone tell me just to use revolutionply and lay it over top of the subfloor and that should fix the problem. Is that correct and is the process like that which you showed in the video. There are also a couple of bouncy spots and one or two ridges from butting subfloor panels.
knock down the high spots and perhaps use some screws on the plywood and not just staples.
Hi - I just finished my kitchen and 2 bathroom remodeling job. I used "CORETEC" luxury vinyl tile in the bathrooms and planks in the kitchen. The ones I used are rigid snap in tongue and groove with a 20 mil wear layer and a cork backing. 100% waterproof. My contractor did a great job in prepping the floor but it was not a lot of work since these go over most hard surfaces.
Yes remove nails, staples etc and no large elevation differences.
I selected the flooring and they installed it. They were very impressed with the quality and ease of laying the floor. This was a 1st time for them using this product.
Nice video and info!!!!
I use Torley's flooring and you can actually use a portable machine to replace planks after the fact if necessary.
I've seen every person use 1/4 ply wood underlayment and even call it Luan...when I read the back of the peel and stick vinyl flooring it specifically says no Luan or underlayment? It does say APA plywood is acceptable but I'm not sure how to know the difference?
If I have 3/4” subfloor do I need to lay another layer of plywood on top before luxury vinyl planks?
So do you recommend covering the whole floor in 1/4 inch ply? Would you then put self leveler on top in low spots?
Jeff?
for 5mm (1/5") subfloor, do you use staples or screws?