What the HELL Happened to Lufia?!
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- Let's find out what the hell happened to the Estpolis Denki series, also known as the Lufia series outside Japan.
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Even to this day, I think Lufia 2 honestly stands up with games like Chrono Trigger as one of the greatest RPGs of all time.
The story, soundtrack, gameplay, and that element of charm make it an amazing game.
Agreed. I consider it to be among those ranks. The dungeon puzzles were outstanding, the encounter system was very well done, and the Ancient Cave was a really interesting wrinkle in gameplay. It's a shame all the people involved in keeping the franchise going seemed to want to make anything but Lufia III, or competent ports of Lufia I and/or II elsewhere. They'd have my money in a heartbeat.
Man, the storyline must be top 5 all time. I always end up tearing up with the ending, even after 20 years
The first Lufia was the first RPG I ever played; my older cousin gave it to me when I was like 5 or 6, and having predominantly played platformers like Mario and Sonic, I couldn’t understand how to play it at all. Came back a few years later after having played and beaten Super Mario RPG and Lufia became of my favorite games “no one had ever heard of.” Then in college I learned there was a sequel, and it still stands as my favorite SNES RPG. It made me realize that there are many games and franchises beloved by a relatively small group of players that will unfortunately never get the chance to be as recognizable as others.
Wow, that's almost exactly how it was for me too, amazing! I also started with Lufia when I was around 7, I rented it a few times and loved it but I sucked at it. Then I played Lufia 2, I think. But Super Mario RPG taught me how to play RPGs well, so I came back to Lufia and Lufia 2 after buying them and finally finished them.
Lufia 1&2 will always have a special place in my heart.
Especially 2 the tunes for me, gives me still chills.
Same
Using cheat lufia 2 to got gades blade.. gades blade has special attack octo strike.. its crazy attack..
While Lufia 3 was a graphical downgrade from the previous titles, that's due to the limitations of the GameBoy Color system. In fact, I'd say Lufia 3 is the most visually beautiful GBC title I've ever seen, by a vast margin.
Agreed. I haven't played any of these games yet, but I love the way TLR looks (Granted, I just like the typical GBC style in general). I own 3 on the 3DS VC, so I'll get around to it eventually. :)
It also actually had the best musical compositions in the series, it just gets overlooked because the sound doesn't sound as good the SNES sound card's. The battle system was also unique and pretty awesome once you got used to it... pretty cool how you can have 9 characters in a battle at once.
@@zhizn_snake agreed, TLR's music was legendary!
@@Bruva_AyamhytIt's extremely nostalgic for me. In some far off parallel universe, they would remaster this game for the switch or something... and the remastered music would be godlike, modern renditions.
It does a lot with what little it has. Still not the most impressive looking RPG on the system, given Dragon Quest III has smooth, fully animated enemies with multiple attack animations per enemy.
Lufia 2 is the first game that made me cry. Some of the best music in any RPG, ever.
I still cry with the ending, no matter how many times I have played it though the years
It's a beautiful story!
The music is indescribably good. I study it on a daily basis
Please don't make me cry again
This. Yes.
It's a literal work of art!
Lufia II, probably my 3rd favorite SNES game. The ending literally choked me up.
Such a shame the game went downhill.
What were the other two? For me my top three were Super Mario RPG, Link to the Past and Street Fighter Alpha 2. The greatest in the Mario, Zelda and Street Fighter series.
chrono trigger and ff6 your top 2?
Lufia 1 is actually at the top for me, even though it's not even the better made Lufia game.
1. Lufia Fortress of Doom
2. Lufia 2
3. Zelda A Link to the Past
4. Mega Man X
5. Super Metroid
6. Mario RPG
7. Star Fox
8. Earthbound
9. Ys III
10. Street Fighter Alpha 2
not an easy list to make... so many good SNES games
Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore
The Legend of Zelda, A Link to the Past
Lufia 2, Rise of the Sinistrals
Terranigma
And then all kinds of jump and run games like Super Mario, Donkey Kong Country (1 - 3), Kirby's Funpack, Yoshi's Island, etc.
The first Lufia game looked like a bunch of Japanese nerds just took one of their tabletop D&D sessions and turned it into a video game.
I LOVE IT.
I think another place they went wrong was releasing Lufia Curse of the Sinistrals in America instead of Europe. Lufia's influence was always most felt east of the Atlantic. Bit of trivia: Lufia was the only SNES RPG translated into Dutch.
Ironically enough, Neverland's core audience was in the Netherlands.
Lufia 1 was my first RPG that was Final Fantasy. I loved the story and gameplay and am saddened that this amazing world is not explored to the fullest. Great video. I just started another playthrough of the games, love them so much...
I feel sad. I beat Lufia and Lufia 2 and really enjoyed those games. Lufia 2 is still alive today as the speedrunning community is still running Ancient Cave tournaments of that game. The Ancient Cave in Lufia 2 was the very first rogue-like game to become popular and it was what made rogue-like games become super-popular.
Rest in Peace, Lufia. We shall never forget thee. :(
I feel like The Legend Returns is severely underrated. It's very beautiful for a GBC game and it ends the trilogy on a satisfying note.
played 1st Lufia in college, good fun; 2nd one has awesome puzzles
As a kid Lufia 1 introduced me to the concept of a bittersweet ending, great loss with a new beginning.
I cried like the little 8 year old that I was for half an hour in bed. About to play it again for the 2nd(?) time to relive hazy history.
I must be the only one who liked the first one. I love Fortress of doom even with all it's flaws. It was the first rpg I ever played and finished.
I love the first one the best love the game so much
@@louisshade8624 agreed i too enjoyed the 1st one the best in the series. it was actually quite challenging if u didnt overlevel your party.
I enjoyed the first one too, the second os my favorite, but the first one was great too. I remember it had a very sad ending, at least was very sad for a kid.
While Rise of the Sinistrals is a far better game in my opinion, Fortress of Doom is still a lot of fun and the plot is still superb, in my opinion, especially the ending.
Neither game shot for a completely happy ending, and that's pretty respectable.
2:30 that boss theme !! such memories ! thanks for the nostalgia , I loved that game !
my favorite child hood game played through it DOZENS of times, until now.
Thanks for the video much love ;)
You should really one day a video about old 16-32 bit games that never got released in the West, Bahamut Lagoon, Treasure Hunter G, Star Ocean among many others.
Treasure hunter G and Live A Live was one of my fav square game next to chrono trigger
Star Ocean: First Departure was released as a remake of the first for the PSP and First Departure R with updated portraits, new voices and fixed graphical issues as well as loading times for the PS4. The second game got a remake and is only on PSP.
what a sad story, it was almost as if the universe didnt wanted for lufia to exist
Or Maxim or Selan. Iris even said Maxim was meant to die at end of the first part of Lufia 2.
Its great to see how many fans of lufia were loving this game, im with you all, thanks Erick for the video!!
my most livid memory of lufia 2 was me being like 10, and could not figure out this color block puzzle, and I had to beg my mom to let me call the nintendo 1-900 number (costed money) for the answer on how to solve it
I'll never forget the frustration that puzzle caused me as a kid... And funnily enough I'll never forget how to solve them now. Burned in my brain.😵
I just recently got back into a Lufia 1&2 mood, after having played them almost 20-25 years ago. It's still as good as remember, and I wish even more now that they made a proper reboot or port...
I played Lufia: Ruins of Lore when I was younger and I really liked how you were able to capture any of the monsters you encountered and have them fight and train alongside you. The biggest kicker for me though was that doing so allowed you to "morph" or "combine" with them to form a bad arse looking monster that would obliterate the enemy. xD
Yea, that was very memorable and unique feature
Lufia is such an amazing game that had alot of cool stuff in it,especially the 100 floor dungeon when you had to use all the stuff you gained from it plus you got to keep everything from it!
Even the second game was even that much more amazing since it told the story of our heros so its basically the prequel to the first Lufia game! 😄
Stumbled across this and as a long time Lufia fan, I needed this closure.
Go play Lufia V
Playing through Lufia 2 for the first time in over a decade and I'm having an absolutely great time.
Very good review. I only played lufia 2, 4 and 1 (in that particular order) and i liked all of them for different reasons. Im happy those games existed in my life regardless of what happened to the franchise or developers and i thank them for the memories and the future memories (since i rarely finish games or books, but i come back to them after some time). Thanks.
First off Sir Landon, I bow to you very humbly for the effort you have put into researching this video. My how the curtain of time has been pulled back and the memories come rushing in.
To this very day, I have never, never, NEVER...been so affected by a game, rpg or other..as Lufia 2. By the time I'd finished it, I'd lost a chunk of my soul it seems I'll never get back. The events that transpired in there, I feel, have pretty much eclipsed everything else Ive seen in rpgs since then. The music of the game. Spending 12 hours...on ONE puzzle. The horrors of descending 99 floors of the still unmatched, unsavable Ancient Cave. The concluding events..on Doom Island. Even though these things happened 25ish years ago, I still remember them all quite vividly..and there has been nothing like them since. While I respect all subsequent remakes, I feel painfully mindful of that phrase "You can never go back home." The past is forever lost. At least now, after seeing this vid, I can kinda close the door on this series..as well as my wish for final revenge upon Arek, that divine sonavabitch whose ponderings upon who was really transcient cost the world of Lufia so very much.
Heres to days gone by.
Thank you.
As a 33 yr old who obsessively collects and plays thousands of games, Lufia TLR remains my favorite game of all time to this day. I first played it about a year after its release when I was 11 years old. The randomized dungeons, especially in the ancient cave, make for infinitely rewarding replayability and relaxation. The story’s ending never fails to bring me to sobbing tears, and each and every character feels like a longtime friend with amazing personality and important life lessons to share.
I bought the last lufia on the gameboy thinking it was gonna be like the original, sadly it was not. Cant bring myself to finish it. Lufia 1 and 2 will always be favorites of mine.
first Lufia is my favorite game in childhood... so sad.
Spots the Eternal Poison art book in the corner, "Ah, I can see that you are a man of culture as well."
the developer nailed it right with lufia 2. the ending made me cried when I played for the first time. the puzzles were awesome.
I played the lufia when I was 7. It was the first rpg I played before final fantasy. I own both 1 and 2 I play both regularly and now I am 34 and still love them both
I still play the Lufia 2 battle music during my D&D campaigns for epic fights haha. Friggin love Lufia 2, still my favourite RPG of all time.
I mixed Lufia games with Lunar, another series that also disappeared
The Lufia games had some good music
Back when they first teased the remake I was hyped even though I don't even have nds and I forgot about it. Fast forward today, I tried to play the OG game again and made me remember the nds remake. Stumbled on this vid and I was like, wtf happened to it.
thank you for the education Professor Landon!
You're welcome :)
I can't consider Lufia TLR as an spin-off because it continue with the main story (also the intro scene tell us that).
The game sadly was too limited in the GBC, it has a powerful potential that the companies didn't take advantage, for example: the nine characters battle, the spiritual wave system, hero's interactions with map, characters story, among others.
The main story is well, it has comedy scenes (Hero and Seena discussions lol)
Maybe the most negative point in Lufia TLR are the random dungeons. Basically, every dungeon is the same: get lost, fight enemies, find treasures, and the stairs. Something that Lufia II did very well was the dungeon's puzzles, and Lufia TLR leaved that behind.
However, I guess everyone agree that Lufia TLR has awesome soundtracks, the developers really did very well them.
I played and finished them both Lufia games a long long time ago. Such a great game. I also love Terranigma and Chrono Trigger and lots of snes rpg games.
Lufia 1 was the first game besides Mario and Zelda I ever played back when I was little. Been mostly an rpg gamer ever since. Replay it again every few years and can easily see that myself still playing it when I’m old and wrinkled.
As much as I love Ruins of Lore, The Legend Returns and Curse of the Sinistrals, Lufia 2 will always hold a special place in my heart.
did you know that Valkyrie Anatomia was released OUTSIDE JAPAN?!
I hope you make a video soon! 😊😊😊
nice video by the way! I wanted to try Lufia series one day
Yep, but I don't care about mobile games =/
@@ErickLandonRPG rude
I loved Lufia 2 back in the day, don't know how many times I rented it.
I still remember the last battle scenes in Lufia 2 vividly after 25 years. That’s gotta count for something.
I own lufia 2 on snes . A new entry in the series would be nice.. doesn’t seem likely . Kudos man 👌
Bullsht, go play lufia V
Honestly, Curse of the Sinistrals was a shock to me as a Lufia fan. I was worried as soon as I learned that Square-Enix had bought Taito and along with them, gained the Lufia IP. Without knowing much, I would have thought Square-Enix were the ones that decided on all the changes that made the game feel less like a Lufia game, but turns out that most of the original Neverland devs that worked on the original Lufia 2 (as a well as Fortress of Doom and Legend Returns), especially director Masahide Miyata and composer Yasunori Shiono, returned to work on the remake. I'm surprised Miyata decided to change so much compared to the first game. The new character designs were by someone from Square-Enix tho, and I really wasn't so into the results.
I mean, maybe it's a fine game on its own, but it just didn't feel like a Lufia game to me. Neither the characters nor the world made me feel like I was playing Lufia. I actually never asked for a Lufia 2 remake, if anything I'd prefer a remaster or the same game with upgrades visuals and arranged music, keeping generally the same story and character designs. I actually prefer Action RPGs and I love the Ys series, but playing as a team was one of my favorite things about the Lufia series.
It's too bad Neverland is really dead now :( I wish they could try again and make a new sequel. I really want a Lufia remastered collection, at least. Lufia has been my favorite game series since my childhood.
Even though Lufia and Lufia 2 are my favorites in the series, I really liked Lufia The Legend Returns too (I didn't like it at first, but I stuck with it and I ended up loving it). I'm glad we saw what the original Neverland team wanted to do with the series rather than whatever Nihon Flex wanted to do on the PS1, it's just too bad they didn't get a better budget and didn't get to work on a stronger platform. I also really liked Cima on GBA, another great Neverland game that flopped that I wish we could see more of but never will.
Big fan also from Spain, nice to know about some fans in USA. In spain appeared like LUFIA only because we didnt have Lufia Fortress Doom. Regards
Oh you told it in the video hehe :D
Never did get anything about Erek the absolute at the beginning of Lufia II. They need to have a story of him with the sinistrals concluding the story for good!
And what are those games shown in your intro? They all looked so cool 😍
I never played it but it gives me a very Lunar vibe. It looks good.
Dude I was looking for this game everywhere, I legit was looking for the name tale of iris since the game I played was lufia for the ds. I was young at the time (kid or middleschoolish age) so all I remember is the name iris and the fact that Maxim yells her name at the end. Oh and the girl with the bag that has a boxing glove. I'm glad I found it 😂
Lufia curse of sinistrals is what I played
Lufia 2 is at same level of chrono trigger and ff 6, really a masterpiece.
Im 17 Lufia 2 was one of my first RPG's Ehen i was a child and im still in love with it :]
Lufia and BoF 🥹 very nostalgic games. They were both my beautiful childhood games. Even the soundtracks and the image of the games, the ending still gives me bittersweet feelings. Oh, and I remember me getting so worked up over Maxim not choosing Tia over Selan~ lol 😝
Lufia 2 is in a select group of games that have shaped me ass a gamer... among them FF6, Chrono Trigger and many others.
The music, story and gameplay, I felt in love with the first Lufia at my young age. The prequel was even better in all aspects. I didn't even bother with the others game boy Lufia games. It looked so awful and in a portable game. The last one looked decent but again, a remake of the prequel in action instead. How hard it is to simply continue the story with decent graphic like the first or second Lufia.
Give ruins of lore a chance it's still one of my favorites
Lufia 3 isn't as bad as most people say it is. Sure the graphics are different but I like the battle system and the wave mechanic. But seriously... letting the series fade into obscurity is dumb and I feel that someone should get the rights to the Lufia series and make a forth game with the Sinistrals and Erek with the return of Iris. I think the 3rd game should get the Trials of Mana treatment.
Lufia : The Legend Return
is game that I love most from the series
The Ending Surprise Me
Wow I didn't know Pedro Pascal played Lufia. :)
Ah Lufia 2, what a Gem. My Cousin gave me a cracked Dreamcast,where this game was on it. Imagine a little Boy getting hyped,because the MC had the same Name.
Then the Story.......my little heart experienced everything. Joy,sadness,rage and even a crush on Selen and Tia. What an Experience.
I miss Lufia a lot. ….well, I will replay one more time. And will be fun :D
It's hard to imagine Lufia 3 facing criticism. It was honestly fantastic and has the best combat system I've ever seen.
The problem they had started in concept. It was a game far before it's time, and in both games they basically drafted the script as if it were an anime series. The original in 1993 was released on a platform that just didn't do the story and gameplay justice, while the sequel was released too late on the same platform, where it was easily forgotten with the release of the N64.
To this very day, I believe the story of the 2 games would be more successful as a multi season anime.
Finding all the dragon eggs to get a wish was a lot of fun in Lufia 2, as were the capsule monsters and ancient cave! I wonder why they didn't keep those elements in subsequent games...
Actually, Lufia 3 also has the dragon eggs sidequest too.
So, basically: Sqeeenix saw nostalgia and decided that the heart-break that was Iris being the Sinistral of Chaos and Maxim and Selan dying for the world so their son could live was not a good enough plot to keep... As such, everyone hated it, among other reasons (the world building was lazy and the game was about 1 hour in length and completely ruined the personality of established characters) and hence it sold like sheit
Iris was the Sinistral of Death, not Chaos.
Also, they did keep the original plot. It was only on New Game+ where they allowed Maxim and Selan to live.
Lastly, Erim had always been depicted as warming up to Maxim under her Iris guise. She saves Maxim at the Ancient Tower which she was absolutely not supposed to do. She even helps Maxim save Parcelyte, fully admitting that this is not something she should be doing.
I dislike ruining the personalities of characters and ruining character designs, but Iris's portrayal is not something I had much of a problem with. I also think that the game wasn't that bad, but it was piss poor compared to Lufia II. It probably would have been much more viable if they had remade Lufia 1 instead.
@@JaidynReiman I'm not making myself clear in regards to the plot. It's not the plot points themselves that bothers me, it's the executions. And I totes forgot it was death, not chaos, sorry. I should perhaps just stay quiet and express myself better before commenting next time =) A lot does not click with me in Curse of the Sinistrals and it makes me word-vomit in lack of a better way to say I couldn't stand it...
After Curse of the Sinistrals, the entire dev team committed Sudoku.
i have played it all but the 2nd one is the best of all.
one of my favorites rpgs in snes.
Let's release three Lufia games at the tail end of a systems lifespan with little advertising. Fingers crossed!
and turn it into an action game to piss off fans of the series.
I wonder how possible it is to analyze the canon(?) stories of the post- Lufia II games, so as to create a SNES-like Lufia III.
I'd pay triple-A game title prices for that. And I don't buy triple-A games on launch.
I love lufia, especially II, was one of my fav RPGs back in the day. Hell I havent played and beat it in a good 20 years.
Great to see the Mandalorian take some time away from helping Jedi to provide this review.
thanks man
They just never managed to build up on Lufia II. It was the peak of the series and a Lufia III on an actual capable console. being just like Lufia II but even better in every aspect couldve been awesome.
Blows my mind how much it looks like FF4/5 ... especially with that mode 7 airship. If it wasn't for the battle system, I'd think it was a sequel to Final Fantasy USA/Mystic Quest. Wild stuff.
the 1st Final Fantasy had the same issue; hitting air if the enemy dies first
The ps one version fix that, plus better graphics and the option to change bettwen easy and nes(hard core) difficulty.
The psone version its the one to go. Better graphics and original difficulty.
that is not a problem, I like it, it makes you think about your moves, instead of just holding L on lufia II when you just want everyone to do a normal attack.
Lufia II was my jam, that game deserved a proper sequel...ugh, I mean a proper 3rd entry?
WHAT so many titles i didn't play... i though they only release the 2 SNES games which i played and enjoy a lot. I Still think the story though was simple it was well told. Thank you for creating this video.
Same to Shadow Hearts, Golden Sun, Jade Cocoon, Grandia, Breath of Fire, Glory of Heracles, Advance Wars (no RPG, but still a shame...)...
Maybe they get an Remake like Wonderboy and Alex Kidd some time...
I finished Lufia 2 yesterday. Liked it. It's a great game. I had tried to play 1 and did not get excited. I found the mechanics of 3 (GBC) interesting and I have no references of the other 2 (GBA and DS). I have a lot to play yet and I must keep the good memories of Lufia 2 🙂
i was wondering... now i know. Thanks a lot. The problem was: The successors have never been able to produce a story of equivalent quality. Lufia II had the best.
Let's say Doom Island did come back 150 years after the events of Lufia 1. Then Amon, Erim, Daos and Gades were about to walk in to their main fortress and make themselves a home once more. But out of nowhere, a new group of Sinistrals known as the Universal 4 would come out and take over Doom Island completely! As they did, they turned Amon, Erim, Daos and Gades into children and banished them back to the overworld with no magic. The Universal 4 would go on to rule the world for 20 more years. Then the story would begin with Amon being raised by his father working as a farmer and his mother specializing in knitting.
Amon would later discover that both of his parents being murdered by Gonun (Sinistral of Tragedy) and his home completely demolished by Rent (Sinistral of Disaster). The two new Sinistrals would reveal themselves as part of the Universal 4! Next, they would play around with Amon until it was time for the both of them to take out Amon for good. At least until Erim intervened and drove Gonun and Rent away.
Amon and Erim would go on to start a new adventure by locating their allies Gades and Daos and regaining their ability to use more powerful evil magic! Then the Sinistrals would be out for revenge to shut down Gonun and Rent along with Elma (Mistress of Anarchy) and Zim (Sinistral of Mayhem/Leader) in their desperate attempt to eliminate the Universal 4, known as the world's greatest threat! This would be my way of saying "Revenge of the Sinistrals: Lufia 5"
This would also feature Maxim's Dual Blade sword merging with Gades' Sword of Destruction to form the highly anticipated "Quad Blade" which is the Universal 4's biggest fear!
Lufia Ruins of Lore will still be my fav
could you make a timeline of the games ?
Lufia 2 forever was, and forever will be - my favourite RPG
Lufia 1 was the first RPG I liked back in 94 or 95 (I was around 7 or 8). I remember trying an FF but it didnt click with me. I played Lufia 2 at launch and it became my FGoAT for years, only really competing with Lufia 1. 2 may have been more polished and had better gameplay but Lufia 1 had a certain style, direction, and moments that 2 didnt. That intro that lasts right up until Alekia, that started it all, is my favorite moment in all my gaming. Oh and I loved Lufia The Legend Returns (Lufia 3!) too. Iwouldnt say it looked and played different, it felt like a Lufia on GB (so obviously visuals would take a hit) that somehow tried some ambitious new things. Best GB game ever, although I was disappointed with it at first. Took some getting used to. Story felt more lighthearted too. Oh, and Cima was awesome! I want a sequel. Ruins of Lore was a bit interesting but ultimately mostly forgettable. S-E killed Lufia and killed Neverland, imo. The gameplay in the remake was ok for me but it was no longer Lufia. Part of the problem was that even with Lufia 2 having some success it still paled next to the success of other RPGs. Lufia was always niche and Lufia 2 is a cult classic.
Lufia also made me a fan of Ys, which is thought to have inspired some things in Lufia.
I love Lufia and Lufia 2, I played through some the 3rd game on Gameboy Color. What the hell did they do to it on the Gameboy Advance and DS, I couldn't play through it.
Lufia 2 is one of my most favorite games ever... My first love as a 8 year old was lufia and Selan...
When they explicitly state that nobody has seen a monster in 100 years, even though people were playing pokemon with the monsters 50 years ago... that kinda makes me mad and i guess people just firgot in those 50 years that people can fuse with monsters to become more powerful
There are some hacks of Lufia II. So I think, that there is a greater fanbase. Maybe a modern remake, maybe in hd2d could bring a turn and be the first step back to a bright future for the franchise.
I spent countless weekends playing Lufia Ruins of Lore. God that game was hard, and fun to play.
Anyone else wish "ESTPOLIS DENKI III: Ruin Chasers" came to fruition?
Lufia 2 is one of the best RPGs I've ever played. It's sad to see all of those bad decisions pilling up and condemning this great franchise... But, who knows, maybe in the future someone takes this franchise and brings it to its former glory. Well, at least I hope so, hahaha
Lufia The legend returns for GBC is the best for me
Lufia DS i won't lie that was super enjoyable
It's sad, the dual blade and Erek's story need to be fleshed out and finished
Lufia 2 is not only one of the greatest RPG's for the SNES, but of all time among all systems.
If you're an RPG Fan and have never played it, do yourself a big favor:
Play it! You won't regret it. Promise!
this game is part of my childhood :'(
If you think about it, Sheena\Erim is probably Wain's ancestor and she ends up with Wain at the end of Lufia 3
I actually loved curse of the sinistrals, & this is even after being a die hard fan of rise of the sinistrals.
Honestly, bias against remakes is actually ruining a lot of good games, & for what? Because the original was better? Because maxim should've been named jason, todd, or some other name....any other name than maxim?
Picky much?
Seriously, just play this game at least once, & I think many will notice that it's a pretty damn good game