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    In 2016, Colin Madsen and his friends were out on a hiking adventure. Strangely, Colin left his cabin one night and was found dead under mysterious circumstances.
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    01:08 Intro
    02:18 Hiking, Hobbying, and Helping
    05:18 The Hunt For Colin Madsen
    10:16 Inadequate Assumptions
    13:43 The Trouble With Greenpeace
    16:55 Various Explanations
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  • @blameitonjorge
    @blameitonjorge  Před 2 lety +3390

    Hey guys. As many of you have noticed, I have been uploading more frequently as of late. Let me know if you like these shorter, more frequent videos, or the longer, monthly deep dives. Curious to see what people think.
    Twitter: twitter.com/blameitonjorge
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    • @lilywillow-7951
      @lilywillow-7951 Před 2 lety +339

      Although I love to see the frequent uploads, I do also really love the deep dives and look forward to those more than the shorter videos :)

    • @bangles7437
      @bangles7437 Před 2 lety +176

      I enjoy both equally!

    • @midcept
      @midcept Před 2 lety +106

      i really like the monthly deep dives but also these frequent videos, i honestly dont know which one is better lol

    • @dylanwilliams2386
      @dylanwilliams2386 Před 2 lety +30

      Either is great make videos on what interests you and we are bound to be entertained

    • @fjsolossa29
      @fjsolossa29 Před 2 lety +23

      Both way is fine jorge! Just don't get stressed out! Stay healthy 👍🏽

  • @WandleR133
    @WandleR133 Před 2 lety +3925

    Yeah, boys, the police here in Russia is like that - useless, unhelpful and most of all harmful in some cases. If they don't like you, you'll be put under suspicion right off the bat and then... I can only wish you luck.

    • @carrier2659
      @carrier2659 Před 2 lety +193

      Police here in the US are the exact same. Sucks, as officers of the law should set an example.

    • @PeterGriffin11
      @PeterGriffin11 Před 2 lety +87

      @@carrier2659 There are bad cops here sure but not all officers are bad.

    • @gabbo7101
      @gabbo7101 Před 2 lety +279

      @@carrier2659 the police here are bad, dont get me wrong, but not nearly as bad as russia. American cops are saints compared to Russian cops. Just grab just about everything wrong with American cops, and dial it to 11. Thats russia's police force

    • @JustSomeRandomBurger
      @JustSomeRandomBurger Před 2 lety +3

      Shut up

    • @marehawk411
      @marehawk411 Před 2 lety +139

      @@JustSomeRandomBurger Thats why your shoes raggedy

  • @nukiradio
    @nukiradio Před 2 lety +3482

    The "his friends were gay murderous drunks, on a hiking trip" is such an obvious quack of a coverup. An absurd conclusion to reach

    • @samuelthehobo4441
      @samuelthehobo4441 Před 2 lety +58

      And an outlandish one given all the very clear evidence

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio Před 2 lety +65

      @@samuelthehobo4441 did you mean to plug your music channel just now?

    • @samuelthehobo4441
      @samuelthehobo4441 Před 2 lety +4

      @@nukiradio yes, why? Does it piss you off?

    • @Simon-xi7lb
      @Simon-xi7lb Před 2 lety +31

      @@samuelthehobo4441 lmao, but why

    • @samuelthehobo4441
      @samuelthehobo4441 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Simon-xi7lb I’ll remove it if that helps

  • @danacalcutt1791
    @danacalcutt1791 Před 2 lety +4225

    Thank you, Jorge, for taking the time and effort to create this video about Colin. I read this had been produced through a friend of Colin's and I tried to thank you as soon as possible, but I am so un-tech that I don't think it was posted. As Colin's mother, I am always touched by the continued love and support by those we don't know personally. It gives me great hope that we can make the world a more equitable and humanitarian place for all of us to live out our lives, because we all want the same simple things. It is not ok for the Russian government to simply not reply and in doing so not be culpable for their guilt. I can only hope that the US government will insist that corrupt governments air their dirty laundry, as light can disinfect. The US has the ability to punish these governments without harming the good citizens that are there by birth. Our two independent forensic reports indicate that Colin's death was a homicide by asphyxia. He was also beaten, bound and had not been deceased long before he was found. Bad police are bad police and they need to be weeded out everywhere, along with the corrupt government that shields them from punishments ."“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” Edmund Burke. Colin was such a good and kind man and yes, it is a Brotherhood of Steel tag on his necklace 😊. Many thanks, again, Dana Madsen Calcutt

    • @Firecracker321g
      @Firecracker321g Před 2 lety +278

      Wow I'm really sorry for ur lost and this whole situation is highly suspicious and even Stevie Wonder can see the Russian government/ police were definitely involved! God bless u and your family

    • @radaf4429
      @radaf4429 Před 2 lety +285

      How is this not top or pinned comment

    • @nero2987
      @nero2987 Před 2 lety +55

      Very sorry for your (& our) loss Dana

    • @aprestoargentino5695
      @aprestoargentino5695 Před 2 lety +100

      As an Argentine, I know what's like to deal with the injustice of a corrupt police. Cases like Collin's happen all the time here and I even got detained once for messing with a cop's relative. If it wasn't that I have some heavy weight relatives, most likely they would have killed me and cover it up like a suicide, like that police station did with so many others.
      Russian Police is a hundred times worse than our, because Russians have violence and alcohol ingrained in their culture and here not so much.
      Most definitely there was foul play by the criminal cops, and rest assured God will give them what they deserve.
      May God rest Collin's soul. God bless you.

    • @ClevrYogi
      @ClevrYogi Před 2 lety +34

      📌

  • @sexybunnyxox
    @sexybunnyxox Před 2 lety +191

    Can you imagine reporting your friend missing and the police are just like “no, you killed him and had sex on top of his dead body?”

    • @RuskiVodkaaaa
      @RuskiVodkaaaa Před 2 lety +2

      his friends killed him, how would the cops know that he would leave to take a piss 4 in the morning, what exact cabin he was staying in, and that he would be alone? The witness accounts make 0 sense. One of his friends that night or multiple payed the corrupt authorities (very common in Russia just like any other poorer nation) to kill him; this would explain how the killers had information only someone close to him would know. I have yet to see a valid counter argument to this.

    • @scirvy
      @scirvy Před rokem +22

      @@RuskiVodkaaaa mate could the cops not have been watching him??

    • @nickmonk7945
      @nickmonk7945 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@RuskiVodkaaaa the comment section is filled with counter arguments... it is possible someone paid someone to do it to him but I seriously doubt it was his friends

  • @kylebaird8813
    @kylebaird8813 Před 2 lety +1413

    Police "So you have no alcohol, but you brought books?"
    Friends: "Yeah."
    Police: "You monsters. Why did you kill and rape your friend?"

    • @dayvancubensis
      @dayvancubensis Před 2 lety +78

      yeah wtf kind of backward thinking is this?

    • @Autarke
      @Autarke Před 2 lety +84

      @@dayvancubensis You have to live in Russia for some time to understand this logic.

    • @dayvancubensis
      @dayvancubensis Před 2 lety +55

      @@Autarke I could see some people in really rural USA having the same thought process too

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 Před 2 lety +8

      Autarke How would living there help? What logic is it?

    • @Autarke
      @Autarke Před 2 lety +38

      ​@@Roadent1241 Hard to explain for me, but i will try. People live in certain "realities". Realities have unwritten rules, so to speak, they formed and refined by years and years of cultural background and situational environment. All of this forms a logic and behavior patterns, specific to this reality. This cannot be explained but expirienced and felt. When a person move from one reality to another everybody can see it. You just look at this person, at the actions of this person and feel that something is off, this person is alien to this place, not neseserily geografically but alien to this reality.

  • @emanuelnegrete8488
    @emanuelnegrete8488 Před 2 lety +1019

    I love that it’s like “the unique necklace missing from the murdered boy found it’s way in police custody” is not a dead fucking give away that the police killed him

    • @gregmcgregginton574
      @gregmcgregginton574 Před 2 lety +20

      That's the police for you

    • @user-oe2cc3tc5t
      @user-oe2cc3tc5t Před 2 lety +15

      The police may have initially thought the necklace was a tool of crime. Any tool of crime has to be taken into police custody.

    • @ThexEmulator
      @ThexEmulator Před 2 lety +59

      @@user-oe2cc3tc5t But then why wouldn't it haven't been there when they FIRST found the body?? And then collect it when it would be noted that he was wearing it? There wasn't a necklace to collect for evidence when they found him dead, because they already stole it when they killed him. They just gave it back because they couldn't get any money for it. On top of the fact that they tried to cover up his defensive wounds after autopsy...I'm sorry, I may be incredibly gullible about a lot of things, but I'm gonna go ahead and say the police killed him with this one.

    • @nadeshikorealnofake2237
      @nadeshikorealnofake2237 Před rokem +23

      Actually the necklace can be easily explained. it's simple, he wasn't wearing the necklace when found, but police may had find it lying around since they searched the area, thus, later returning it to his relatives with the rest of his belongings. i wish people would try to actually find a plausible explanation instead of making up a conspiracy lol

    • @decimalcactus1902
      @decimalcactus1902 Před rokem +8

      @@nadeshikorealnofake2237 Can you read the reponse the person before you sent?

  • @ajc8815
    @ajc8815 Před 2 lety +2594

    He's American, Gay, and an Environmentalist.
    He's essentially the embodiment of who the Russian authorities hate dealing with, making it a recipe for their complicity of his tragedy.

    • @Dave-tk6lw
      @Dave-tk6lw Před 2 lety +65

      And easily covering it up

    • @that1person695
      @that1person695 Před 2 lety +259

      Was he really openly gay? Was that confirmed? Because I don't think it said that in the video, only that the police accused him of being gay.

    • @alphapegasus9761
      @alphapegasus9761 Před 2 lety +39

      BASED

    • @ajc8815
      @ajc8815 Před 2 lety +341

      @@that1person695 Some locals in the town that Colin last stayed in also "insisted" that he was gay. Though it's not 100% confirmed, the point is: his sexuality should never matter in the first place. Labeling him as Gay is another scapegoat so they could not pursue this case, and cover-up the real reason of his death.

    • @ajc8815
      @ajc8815 Před 2 lety +15

      @@alphapegasus9761 You RWer Wignats simping over Russia is laughable.

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache Před 2 lety +2823

    The whole situation sounds way too suspicious for it to not have the police be involved in the death

    • @GambinoTheGoat
      @GambinoTheGoat Před 2 lety +12

      wow no comment on a dude without a mustache the disrespect ☠️

    • @togekissbliss
      @togekissbliss Před 2 lety +1

      @@GambinoTheGoat I'm even more surprised that normally you'd expect 3.4k likes or more🤔

    • @Zyborggian
      @Zyborggian Před 2 lety +2

      Do you watch all the Nexpo/Muta friend group's videos?

    • @Filiolus
      @Filiolus Před 2 lety +10

      @@Zyborggian They just have a name and profile pic that stands out, and comment on every video. Im sure a lot of us watch the same videos but we don't comment on every one.

    • @aurelienlux
      @aurelienlux Před 2 lety +2

      And not unlikely considering it happened in Russia (especially in a rural area)

  • @zoomzoom103
    @zoomzoom103 Před 2 lety +2933

    Jorge: It's kinda difficult to believe the authorities would've killed Colin
    The entire comment section: The cops totally killed him, no doubt about it

    • @gabbo7101
      @gabbo7101 Před 2 lety +93

      Jorge is either a boot licker or someone that is trying not to anger boot lickers

    • @edgaranalhoe7678
      @edgaranalhoe7678 Před 2 lety +263

      @@gabbo7101 or he has no idea how rotten police is in the eastern europe

    • @ExValeFor
      @ExValeFor Před 2 lety +261

      He's a big youtuber, he's not allowed to make strong statements, he's always supposed to be umm-ing and err-ing about everything. He doesn't even think that the creator of CR6 faked his own death, lest someone make fun of him for being a 'conspiracy theorist'.

    • @danlastname1150
      @danlastname1150 Před 2 lety +41

      Could have been loggers or hired thugs, with the police covering for local interests

    • @HeyJinx
      @HeyJinx Před 2 lety +36

      DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO? The cops definitely did it. It's undeniable

  • @onda.
    @onda. Před 2 lety +925

    The necklace disappearing than reappearing was crazy, the authorities really slipped up with that one.

    • @immkai
      @immkai Před 2 lety +32

      Kind of seems like if a group killed him, one may have taken the necklace as a sick souvenir and the other(s) found out and forced them to return it so they wouldn't get caught.

    • @CyberWarezz05
      @CyberWarezz05 Před 2 lety +3

      @@immkai Yeah no, that is not plausible.Think about it, if a friend did that and the police wanted a scapegoat, they'd use the necklace as evidence to throw them in jail and solve the case

    • @immkai
      @immkai Před 2 lety +19

      @@CyberWarezz05 not necessarily, that opens the door to more publicity, more things going wrong and just more work on their part instead of just letting it die down and allowing people to forget. You get a scapegoat they'll forever be proclaiming their innocence and bringing light to the case.
      Just a thought, we'll likely (and sadly) never know.

    • @PointNemo9
      @PointNemo9 Před 2 lety +1

      Not necessarily, it could have been somewhere else on his body, in his pocket or left back at the cabin.

    • @gingerdog8203
      @gingerdog8203 Před rokem +3

      @@PointNemo9 but it wasn't in the report

  • @nightowl7421
    @nightowl7421 Před rokem +240

    16:40 Seeing that he had a Brotherhood of Steel tag on his necklace honestly made me a little bit sadder. Watching these videos, I tend to separate myself from the victim but seeing that makes me feel more connected. He was just a guy who liked Fallout and hiking :( He didn't deserve this just like none of us would.

    • @Nautinthislifetime
      @Nautinthislifetime Před rokem +29

      Same, I am also a fan of fallout and seeing that tag on his necklace and the pendant which looked similar to a necklace in Neverending Story....it hits that these are real people and these are real tragedies that happen to them

    • @eustab.anas-mann9510
      @eustab.anas-mann9510 Před rokem

      Not saying it's right, but to be gay, a Greenpeace activist and American in Siberia is like being a female streaker in Saudia Arabia. Sooner or later you're going to run into "problems".

    • @lindboknifeandtool
      @lindboknifeandtool Před rokem +2

      For real.

    • @NEELZE99
      @NEELZE99 Před 11 měsíci

      Knowing he was gay destroyed all of this tho

    • @Silvia.Araujo
      @Silvia.Araujo Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@NEELZE99 Tf

  • @ShannonJones-cv4tf
    @ShannonJones-cv4tf Před rokem +55

    Colin was a dear friend to me while we both studied abroad in Irkutsk the year prior. He was a wonderful and wholly unique person. I also knew and dearly loved some of the friends who were with him when he disappeared and am so sad that they had to deal with the depravity of the police coverup and accusations. Colin was so loved and I wish I could talk to him again.

    • @NEELZE99
      @NEELZE99 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Did he act gay?

    • @MVCx_xB
      @MVCx_xB Před 3 měsíci

      Do you wake up choosing to be a disrespectful stain or does it come naturally?@@NEELZE99

    • @MVCx_xB
      @MVCx_xB Před 3 měsíci +1

      I am so sorry for your loss.

    • @uverpro3598
      @uverpro3598 Před 12 dny

      Put on some clothes.

  • @owenbillo5513
    @owenbillo5513 Před 2 lety +1768

    The cops did it. There's no damn way they didn't. They had his necklace when they shouldn't have. It's like robbing a house and the police find the stolen jewelry on you

    • @NarKoTiK69
      @NarKoTiK69 Před 2 lety +16

      anyone think the symbol on the neckladce might have significance as to y the police took it? I read on a comment above someone referred to it as
      "The brotherhood of the (something, can't remember or find the comment)". Did there exist anamosity between this brotherhood and the Russian industrialists, authorities, or the locals quite possibly?

    • @Simon-xi7lb
      @Simon-xi7lb Před 2 lety +142

      @@NarKoTiK69 The Brotherhood of Steel is a fictional organization from the Fallout series of videogames by Obsidian Entertainment and Bethesda.

    • @TravelingKen
      @TravelingKen Před 2 lety +97

      The cops probably thought it was worth something, and when they couldn't pawn it off for cash they figured they would just return it.

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped Před 2 lety +32

      @@TravelingKen This. It was probably a lot more mundane then people are making it out to be.

    • @wertiaaudit5746
      @wertiaaudit5746 Před 2 lety +3

      Idk might have found it nearby

  • @toomuchbongwater
    @toomuchbongwater Před 2 lety +434

    the fact that he had on heavy layers of makeup and clothing when his body was brought in for the autopsy is so strange to me. i really hope his family gets some sort of closure.

    • @jakesteele4047
      @jakesteele4047 Před 2 lety +14

      Sadly, they probably never will.

    • @princealigorna7468
      @princealigorna7468 Před 2 lety +10

      It's almost like they were planning to bury him in Russia. Either just stage a service for the friends, or do it quickly, but couldn't because they got the request in time. So they left all the laying-in-state stuff on and just packed him on a plane home

    • @Corvus7
      @Corvus7 Před 2 lety +12

      In Russia morgues, not burial homes usually handle body pre-burial preparation. He was probably prepared for funeral locally in order to bury him faster in US.

    • @hq698
      @hq698 Před rokem

      @@Corvus7 that makes sense, but in the video it was stated that the bruising covered by the makeup wasn’t noted when they found the body. Insinuating that it had been done before arriving at a morgue

  • @L4r5man
    @L4r5man Před 2 lety +320

    There are several theories that comes to mind. Risk factors I see are:
    1: He was a foreigner in a notoriously xenophobic country.
    2: He was a foreigner engaged in political activism in a country known to crack down on political activism.
    3: Even if he wasn't gay, someone might have thought he were and attacked him for it.
    4: He might just have pissed off some local yokel.

    • @nickmonk7945
      @nickmonk7945 Před 11 měsíci +2

      So what about a theory on the necklace ...?

    • @uverpro3598
      @uverpro3598 Před 12 dny

      Russians don’t want gay environmentalists in their country. Sounds pretty based to me.

  • @coryomalley3582
    @coryomalley3582 Před 2 lety +99

    "That weed really got on top of me. Think I'll go die alone in the snow." Said no person ever.

    • @ramennoodles337
      @ramennoodles337 Před 2 lety +6

      this is funny but i dont think im supposed to laugh

  • @jaedogg7836
    @jaedogg7836 Před 2 lety +1811

    In my opinion, it was most unlikely a random murderer but far more likely a police coverup.

    • @theredactedfailure6812
      @theredactedfailure6812 Před 2 lety +36

      As the Russian mafia to this day still exists, and until 2017 no extremely major arrests occurred (other then one, however they got released on bail) I think its highly likely for some reason or another he possibly got targeted by a Mafioso.

    • @calebplerry9664
      @calebplerry9664 Před 2 lety +15

      a cop raped his feet and then beat him to death and his buddies covered for him

    • @yannickgrignon2473
      @yannickgrignon2473 Před 2 lety +9

      I wonder if it could have been someone's buddy, or one officer acting alone, and then the rest covering for him

    • @Fyrdman
      @Fyrdman Před 2 lety +10

      @@theredactedfailure6812 Why would the Russian mafia be involved? What gain would they have from this?

    • @ducksauce1290
      @ducksauce1290 Před 2 lety +2

      Nope gay orgy all the way😁

  • @beanoid6066
    @beanoid6066 Před 2 lety +1910

    Yeah I feel like it was most definitely the authorities, the way they angrily tried to blame other people quickly with the most outrageous/unrealistic accusations is a dead giveaway but I also feel like it might’ve been an accident, maybe they tried scaring him to stop doing what he did but went a little too far

    • @stevielawler1028
      @stevielawler1028 Před 2 lety +123

      I mean he had scars around his wrists indicating he was tied up and beaten. I don't think it was an accident by the authorities

    • @MnemonicHeadTrip
      @MnemonicHeadTrip Před 2 lety +14

      Would the authorities really act that way though? It seems super obvious and suspicious to respond that way and harass his friends.

    • @alecwerme739
      @alecwerme739 Před 2 lety +62

      That's not an accident then. If they killed him it's murder, not just an oopsie, we tried to scare him

    • @beanoid6066
      @beanoid6066 Před 2 lety +7

      @@stevielawler1028 yeah that’s true it couldn’t have been an accident

    • @beanoid6066
      @beanoid6066 Před 2 lety +16

      @@alecwerme739 yeah the more I read my comment the more dumb it sounds, of course they did it on purpose but are still trying to cover it up

  • @11ozzielover
    @11ozzielover Před 2 lety +138

    I immediately thought of my mom when it was mentioned he worked for Greenpeace. She was once chased through the whole of Belgium by unmarked cars when working for Greenpeace on a mission that had to do with the pollution of a certain oil company. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but hearing her story it wouldn't surprise me if he was killed as an example.

    • @soupster857
      @soupster857 Před rokem +19

      yeah, my friends and family are big environmentalists and a lot of them have been detained, heckled, stalked etc... scary but really changed the way i view the government growing up

    • @courtadbobtail600
      @courtadbobtail600 Před 28 dny

      Many GP activists have had attempts on their life, I have almost no doubt that the police were involved, and the murder was most likely orchestrated by the industrialists in question.

  • @seonaelizabethcoster8465
    @seonaelizabethcoster8465 Před 2 lety +124

    I wouldn't be surprised if the Russian Authorities had a part in Colin's death, not at all. After all, they nearly killed a friend of mine in the early 2000s. He'd gone over to Russian as an English teacher, and was beaten up by a couple of police officers one night. Yeah, he came home straight away, and warned everyone against going there.
    So no, I'm not at all surprised that there is a suspicion about the Authorities being involved, not at all.

  • @rottenbutter360
    @rottenbutter360 Před 2 lety +725

    16:04 "In some ways. it's kind of difficult to believe the Russian authorities would have killed Collin Madsen."
    Really? I believed that right away.

    • @dormiebasne3578
      @dormiebasne3578 Před 2 lety +66

      Seriously. The only thing a little disconcerting at all is that he didn't just "disappear"

    • @kuraraShotai9
      @kuraraShotai9 Před 2 lety +82

      This isn't even an exclusively Russian thing either, my mom's baby brother & hundreds of other local men in Cabo San Lucas were just picked off the streets & neighborhoods by the local armed forces/police (they're the same thing in mexico) & have never been found. At least, the ones that WERE found were found by their relatives thru local efforts, so at least those families got closure. Also, apparently he had just bought a new motorcycle, and instead of keeping it after he disappeared his son sold it to some guy, and less than a week later that same guy was found dead in the middle of a field. So, if my cousin hadn't sold that motorcycle, he probably would have been next.
      Edit: it's been at least 4 years since my uncle disappeared, my grandma still refuses to believe he's gone for good. One of his neighbors had been the one to see the armed men take him away in a van & confirmed it was the same armed men you see at the border/toll roads all over the country. Thousands of relatives, mostly mothers & sisters, put everything they can into recovering their lost brothers, fathers, sons, but the government refuses to help, more than likely because they are the ones who cause the disappearances.

    • @liyre4189
      @liyre4189 Před 2 lety +62

      @@kuraraShotai9 It even happens in the US, you get so many small town stories of corrupt cops and in big cities, well, you've got police who kill people in broad daylight and nothing even happens because of police unions.

    • @doubtful_seer
      @doubtful_seer Před 2 lety +17

      Yeah, this is honestly the most believable, likely theory.

    • @trentspears9118
      @trentspears9118 Před 2 lety +36

      @@liyre4189 That's the difference between US police and Russian police.
      US police are very very open about killing people

  • @katythetheatrekid8907
    @katythetheatrekid8907 Před 2 lety +1115

    I love how much Jorge's work has changed. Dont get me wrong, I love when it used to be his top 10 lists and whatnot but it's good to see that his work is changing a lot, and i absolutely love it.

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku Před 2 lety

      I am thinking about dropping out of school to focus on my career as a star on CZcams. I already make a lot of money on CZcams. School bores me so much. I need more opinions and since I don't have any friends, I gotta ask you, kat

    • @issintf925
      @issintf925 Před 2 lety +34

      @@AxxLAfriku Do you have nothing better to do?

    • @frankmoran3459
      @frankmoran3459 Před 2 lety

      Agreed

    • @PinkJoy143
      @PinkJoy143 Před 2 lety +1

      Me too!! That documentary on The Finders Cult was the best!

    • @flexican5399
      @flexican5399 Před 2 lety

      He’s been like this for a while now

  • @Fullchristainname
    @Fullchristainname Před 2 lety +69

    I have an explanation for the state of the body: Colin was undressed either before he died or soon after, so his body and clothes could be washed to get rid of evidence. Then they re-dressed him which was why his jewelry and socks were missing (small items that are easy to lose) and his shoes were untied and clothes were torn (it’s difficult to dress someone who’s unconscious or dead, and rigor mortis might have set in). Then he would have been dumped in the woods (explaining the pose he was found in- If two people lifted a body by the shoulders and legs and tossed it to the ground it would land in a similar position.) he was definitely killed somewhere else and his body dumped at the place it was eventually found.

    • @annabellelee4535
      @annabellelee4535 Před rokem +2

      or, more likely, it was paradoxical undressing.

    • @jetmcgee4218
      @jetmcgee4218 Před rokem +6

      ​@@annabellelee4535more likely? So he took his boots off then his socks then put his boots back on?

    • @annabellelee4535
      @annabellelee4535 Před rokem +1

      @@jetmcgee4218 Yes. Why is that strange to you in a case of paradoxical undressing? People act strangely when their brain is scrambled.

    • @jetmcgee4218
      @jetmcgee4218 Před rokem +7

      @@annabellelee4535 yeah but that's not something that happens in paradoxical undressing. He was most likely murdered by police or they were helping someone cover it up.

    • @annabellelee4535
      @annabellelee4535 Před rokem

      @@jetmcgee4218 Don't be ridiculous. You might want to educate yourself on paradoxical undressing because yes, that does happen.

  • @AwokenEntertainment
    @AwokenEntertainment Před 10 měsíci +28

    it had to be the police, too many clues.. the attempted blame-shifting to alcohol, the hostility towards investigators, and too seal the deal - that unique necklace

  • @wanderinghistorian
    @wanderinghistorian Před 2 lety +6450

    This is a tragedy but I find it fitting and hilarious that the Russian police found the fact the hikers hadn't brought any alcohol "suspicious." :D

    • @vulgarshudder
      @vulgarshudder Před 2 lety +514

      my friend went to russia not long after the USSR fell, and took a domestic flight somewhere. The flight was rolling and lurching everywhere, the roughest landing.
      The stewardesses were stone faced mad glaring at the cockpit. Plane came to a screeching halt throwing everyone forward pinned by the seatbelts. And the cockpit door immediately thrown open, and the captain stumbles out drink in hand rip roaring drunk, and stumbles out the plane first.
      He tells this story recently to a Russian friend, who nonchalantly says well in that time pilots were expected to drink before the flight, they'd get in trouble if they had more than a bottle of vodka though! Turns out all the pilots were alcoholics and would drink before flying to stop the DT tremors 🥴✈️👍

    • @bigbird7748
      @bigbird7748 Před 2 lety +340

      there is a huge drinking problem in Russia, so people often go out in the forest or a mountain or to fish just to get drunk
      people who don't drink are considered very weird

    • @sadsworth4605
      @sadsworth4605 Před 2 lety +56

      @@bigbird7748 I mean it is very cold they are trading thier liver for thier skin I guess

    • @Ragedaonenlonely
      @Ragedaonenlonely Před 2 lety +207

      @@sadsworth4605 Alcohol don't actually make you warmer though. It just makes you feel warmer, but in reality it does the opposite.

    • @frankmarano1118
      @frankmarano1118 Před 2 lety +191

      @@bigbird7748 Yeah but let's be real, they were mad they didnt possess any alcohol because they wanted to invent a story they killed him when drunk. This isnt as innocent as what you're suggesting. As demonstrated clearly by the "they wanted to fornicate on the corpse" story that they had randomly made up. This displays very corrupt intentions. You follow the evidence to make a story, you dont randomly make up a story & force a confession without any evidence whatsoever. I could've done better police work than them. These were very hostile police with very hostile intentions. This is way beyond merely being "unprofessional".

  • @mephosto
    @mephosto Před 2 lety +547

    it's super dark, but "you have books, so murderous gay necrophilia" is so absurd, i can't help but laugh.

    • @rockhistoria2537
      @rockhistoria2537 Před 2 lety +57

      "Clearly they were practicing witchcraft"
      -The Russian Police, probably

    • @arcanestoryteller7645
      @arcanestoryteller7645 Před 2 lety +4

      It's a dumb claim.

    • @willissudweeks1050
      @willissudweeks1050 Před rokem +7

      It’s crazy they are so used to lying and having it accepted that they even tried this. Also why did their minds go there?

    • @user-vm6mw5xw7o
      @user-vm6mw5xw7o Před rokem

      which is why I don’t believe the friends at all either lmao everyone’s lying here

    • @jacobkudrowich
      @jacobkudrowich Před rokem

      ​@@willissudweeks1050 vranyo

  • @leonidkanevsky202
    @leonidkanevsky202 Před rokem +80

    Как же погано, что на русском ни одной нормальной статьи по этому делу. Впервые слышу об этом убийстве, хотя оно произошло относительно недавно. Спасибо за освещение этого дела

    • @HarrenTonderen
      @HarrenTonderen Před rokem +13

      Думаю очевидно почему нету. Подливает в маcло огонь, и теории комментаторов вполне могут быть правдой

  • @insanitycubed8832
    @insanitycubed8832 Před rokem +20

    They were probably trying to convince him to stop with the activism, but accidentally convinced a little to hard. I mean why would the police intentionally kill him and also be so unprepared to cover it up?

  • @JamesSmith-pp5vp
    @JamesSmith-pp5vp Před 2 lety +531

    It's weird that before the body was found, the police accused the friends of killing him and sexually assaulting the body. It's especially "coincidental" that Colin was found with his trousers down

    • @jerricaleonard2123
      @jerricaleonard2123 Před 2 lety +96

      If it's true that the cops murdered him, they probably defiled the body too.

    • @kimanderson7311
      @kimanderson7311 Před 2 lety +70

      At the very beginning, as soon as the cops said that, I knew it was them. That was a dead give away.

    • @LadyAstarionAncunin
      @LadyAstarionAncunin Před 2 lety

      A lot of phobes are undercover. I wouldn't doubt they had their way with him, like that nest of anti-g/ay German politicians who were caught at a gay orgy. You can't make this stuff up!

    • @jimmythe-gent
      @jimmythe-gent Před 2 lety +6

      It sounds like a missing 411 story, anybody ever heard of those?

    • @13BeachesInVenice
      @13BeachesInVenice Před rokem +35

      I read in the comments that locals suspected him of being gay, but it wasn't 100% confirmed. The Russian police definitely bound and tortured him. They probably got it out of him to admit that he was or something, which could explain the blatant homophobic accusations and framing of the story on their part.

  • @yoitsabo
    @yoitsabo Před 2 lety +121

    Hey, local siberian here. Really, sadly I don’t think that anyone from Siberia or even Russia will be shocked by that case, why do you think Aleksei Balabanov's movie “cargo 200” exist.. People here are very angry and often have caveman mentality, using different sexuality as curses to random people and hating any good political or non-political movements. When they live in cold, dark and far away country side, they can relax only with alcohol and beating random people on the streets. That’s average lifestyle of people from siberia.
    I don’t think people in other countries OR EVEN people from city’s like Moscow can understand how hard it is to be a young person with modern knowledge of the internet, surrounded by those caveman and this mentality. That’s why everyone moves from there and leaves those people to be stupid alone and abuse each other like they used to.

    • @user-rx4jg8lq7h
      @user-rx4jg8lq7h Před 2 lety +8

      That sounds very tough, indeed. Just wanted to say that most Russian people I've met were wonderful like yourself! That's why I hope slowly things will change, thanks to the young people. Take care.

    • @willissudweeks1050
      @willissudweeks1050 Před 2 lety +6

      Hopefully you’re old enough to move to another area soon!

    • @yoitsabo
      @yoitsabo Před 2 lety +9

      @@willissudweeks1050 Thank you! I’ve already moved pretty far ✨

    • @willissudweeks1050
      @willissudweeks1050 Před 2 lety

      @@yoitsabo Still in Russia?

    • @yoitsabo
      @yoitsabo Před 2 lety +4

      @@willissudweeks1050 Yeah. Right now it’s more hard to move abroad.. But it’s still soooo different tho

  • @damianmasq5134
    @damianmasq5134 Před 2 lety +20

    This reminds me a lot of that Icelandic case where someone disappeared or died, so the cops immediately started acting suspicious, did the worst investigation possible, and then basically imprisoned and interrogated the victims friends for like two years or something insane like that till they “confessed”, then they were like yay job well done!

  • @r.b.ratieta6111
    @r.b.ratieta6111 Před 2 lety +32

    Great video. Love your channel.
    Also, another clue to the police lying about hypothermia:
    Victims of hypothermia generally die with their eyes closed on account that their body "falls asleep" before it shuts down. Doctors and scientists say that as the body shuts down from hypothermia, the person dying begins to feel warmth instead of bitter cold. Thus the reason they appear "sleeping" when found.
    I'm no mortician or death expert, but my understanding is that people who die with their eyes and mouth open are usually victims of a quick unexpected death or a violent, stressful death. I remember watching an interview with a serial killer in jail (name escapes me) who said his favorite part of murdering someone in cold blood was watching the eyes dilate before they died. A mafia hitman named Richard Kuklinski also mentioned the same thing. He said he'd kill men at point blank range and then stand over the body and watch until "the light in their eyes disappeared."
    Like I say, no expert on post-mortem stuff, but I think his death with eyes and mouth open would indicate something very stressful or quick and unexpected.
    I feel bad for him and his family. 🙁
    Important Lesson: Russian Law Enforcement is sus af.

    • @mandywalkden-brown7250
      @mandywalkden-brown7250 Před rokem +1

      No, people frequently die with their eyes open as they skip away. Their jaw relaxes after death and thus their mouth is open, especially if they’re lying on their back at the time. (RN of 40+ years, at the bedside of many patients’ passing.)

    • @Sunsetglitch
      @Sunsetglitch Před rokem +3

      @@mandywalkden-brown7250 this comment was talking about hypothermia closing the eyes.

    • @nickmonk7945
      @nickmonk7945 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Great comment

    • @petrus9067
      @petrus9067 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Also open eyes and mouth, the nose as well are prime targets for insects and scavengers, would show the most signs of decomposition in "8 days lying on the ground in a forest"

  • @kushluk777
    @kushluk777 Před 2 lety +781

    Everyone: A person has disappeared.
    Russian Police: He's gay so that really doesn't matter right?

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 Před 2 lety +67

      Why do they hate gays so much? Why do people hate others for something they can't help? Could just know they're not hurting anyone and just not hate them.

    • @ThePriusMechanic
      @ThePriusMechanic Před 2 lety +91

      @@Roadent1241 because they are super old fashioned and conservative

    • @hydro7373
      @hydro7373 Před 2 lety +15

      @@ThePriusMechanic Their population is also dying out so they're willing to do anything to save it

    • @charliep7112
      @charliep7112 Před 2 lety +46

      @@Roadent1241 I know right? God forbid someone prefer someone with the same gender as them. The whole whining about gay people is honestly petty and pathetic.

    • @zacharypayne4080
      @zacharypayne4080 Před 2 lety +3

      They don't matter more..

  • @TheChrisRolla
    @TheChrisRolla Před 2 lety +294

    When Jorge says awry as “are we” it legitimately broke my brain for like
    A whole minute

    • @crystalrose043
      @crystalrose043 Před 2 lety +29

      It took me a second and i was like "did he mean uh-rye"? And now im questioning if i even pronounce it correctly

    • @cherrychip_
      @cherrychip_ Před 2 lety

      It’s “are we” I’m pretty sure. Or I’m just dumb.

    • @TheChrisRolla
      @TheChrisRolla Před 2 lety +43

      @@cherrychip_ no it’s “aw rye”

    • @TheSilverwing999
      @TheSilverwing999 Před 2 lety +26

      @@cherrychip_
      It's not are we 😂

    • @LisaTheMad
      @LisaTheMad Před 2 lety

      Same 🤣

  • @a_lucientes
    @a_lucientes Před 2 lety +22

    Strange that his bladder would still be full if he had been beaten to death,, fear and trauma would cause one to release his bladder. The fists closed are also strange. Strangest (to me) of many strange things in this case is that his body would not have gone straight to a pathologist's office for an independent autopsy, -that it was the morticians at the funeral home who found and documented his wounds. I mean, that really stands out. The first thing you would want is to determine the state of the body. That is what's going to show how a person died. But no mention is made of a second autopsy. As for as why he left the cabin in that state, that he went to pee makes the most sense. It seems to have been a one room cabin and no one was else was awakened,, and then just grabbed by people snooping on them. (we can only speculate). It would be good to know the dates and temperatures,, bc that could explain his body being preserved,, if its very cold, it slows decomposition, but nothing I can see explains not having a second, independent autopsy, performed on him. Anyway, sad story. Poor kid. He really seemed like a good person.

  • @sophia111188
    @sophia111188 Před rokem +6

    Hi, Russian native here. It is completely NOT hard to believe that the Russian authorities killed someone. They would not hesitate a second before torturing people to make them confess things they didn't do or just for their own fun.

  • @R1nae
    @R1nae Před 2 lety +1672

    It’s always a good night when Jorge posts

    • @A_Casual_NPC
      @A_Casual_NPC Před 2 lety +9

      I'm gonna hold myself from watching this one until I'm nice and comfy in my bed. XD

    • @epicman004
      @epicman004 Před 2 lety +9

      Nexpo and Jorge posting 4 days apart: Priceless

    • @SlimKadenTheRanter2.03
      @SlimKadenTheRanter2.03 Před 2 lety +1

      True.

    • @bbpue
      @bbpue Před 2 lety +3

      "it's always a good night when _______ posts"

    • @JustSomeRandomBurger
      @JustSomeRandomBurger Před 2 lety +1

      I don't care because I didn't ask, clown

  • @Cainb23
    @Cainb23 Před 2 lety +186

    theres is no logical scenario that doesnt have the russian authorities involved in his death at the very least

    • @-xirx-
      @-xirx- Před 2 lety +1

      Undeniably

    • @Pottymouth_
      @Pottymouth_ Před 2 lety +4

      The thing is, they are probably the middle man. It seems like his association with Green Peace has something to do with it.

  • @goose9756
    @goose9756 Před 2 lety +8

    Beautiful homage to Colin. Thank you Jorge.
    I have never heard of this young man before today. His life seemed so full of love and adventure and kindness and appreciation for people and their culture, land and language. What an amazing life he had as both a warrior and a seeker of the new and unchartered..

  • @camjam8367
    @camjam8367 Před 2 lety

    THANK GOD YOU STILL MAKE VIDEOS!!! One of my god damn childhood heroes! Thank you man!

  • @gaminggladiator06
    @gaminggladiator06 Před 2 lety +443

    Even if the russian police are not guilty, they aren’treally helping themselves look better. The constant aggression towards the group, the fact that they retrieved a necklace that wasn’t on him when he was discovered, and the urgency to try to find anything to put the blame on his friends is just adding fuel to the fire. Something happened, and while we don’t know by who, it was big enough that athorities were despirate to try to cover it up.
    But sometimes, despiration can lead to their own demise.

    • @samuelthehobo4441
      @samuelthehobo4441 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if they were to blame. It’s all very strange
      czcams.com/video/2gKjXpzmWRI/video.html

  • @sarahmoonnn
    @sarahmoonnn Před 11 měsíci +3

    So thankful to have found this channel. Super interesting videos :)

  • @hiropon2985
    @hiropon2985 Před 2 lety

    glad i found your channel, so sad it took me so long to find but happy to be here!

  • @hihi-nm3uy
    @hihi-nm3uy Před 2 lety +324

    i love how quickly the officers began desperately screaming colin was gay, with no concept of how far the world had progressed, and how little it would help their little coverup

    • @commander31able60
      @commander31able60 Před 2 lety +40

      it would in Russia.

    • @hicknopunk
      @hicknopunk Před 2 lety +4

      Gay cops often do this, projecting their own feelings on the victim.

    • @antipsychotic451
      @antipsychotic451 Před 2 lety +28

      I don't think the world has progressed as much as you think it has.

    • @bWitched96
      @bWitched96 Před 2 lety +5

      @@antipsychotic451 Was just going to say the same thing.

    • @bWitched96
      @bWitched96 Před 2 lety +11

      @@SpawnIsCrazy It's true. Doesn't have to be 'cops' necessarily, but in this particular example, I knew someone who was horrifically murdered by a closeted cop. Look up the case of "Jesse Valencia"

  • @RobinLecter
    @RobinLecter Před 2 lety +400

    "It's difficult to believe that Russian authorities are involved in Colin's death."
    Europeans: 🤐

    • @guusvangerrevink2484
      @guusvangerrevink2484 Před 2 lety +35

      polish people: "yeah, yeah, Russians.......... VERY NICE PEOPLE!"

    • @SheSaidHeroin
      @SheSaidHeroin Před 2 lety +52

      Lol right? When he said that I side eyed my bedroom wall. The second it became clear that this story is about green American in Russia, there was no mystery about his death anymore.

    • @invisible_can
      @invisible_can Před 2 lety +8

      especially keeping in mind what they do on OTHER nation's territory, cant imagine what happens on their own

    • @Hromovlad1
      @Hromovlad1 Před 2 lety +5

      To be fair, 80% of that is just western racist anti-Slavic propaganda
      but the remaining 20% is spot-on
      What I em trying to say is that if the Russia authorities don't like your face, they won't bother investigating your death, and will most likely pin the blame on your friends to "teach them a lesson"
      They won't kill you tho, unless you directly choose to mess with them.

    • @Hromovlad1
      @Hromovlad1 Před 2 lety +6

      @@invisible_can you mean like the USA?

  • @mmickle6191
    @mmickle6191 Před 2 lety +1

    This was an intriguing case. Hopefully the family will get justice. I very much appreciated the models and animation elements, made it more real. Excellent stuff!

  • @ValiantPixel
    @ValiantPixel Před rokem +5

    They blamed the other hikers for having sexual intercourse with the body, while also insinuating that Colin was gay. The Russian assassins weren’t even trying to be subtle.

  • @beeeeeeesssss
    @beeeeeeesssss Před 2 lety +190

    It could be:
    Colin was going to the bathroom, lost his way somehow because this was at 2-5 AM, so it must’ve been dark, and encountered the Russian police, they beat him and end up killing him, and then dump his body elsewhere.

    • @soupladle3237
      @soupladle3237 Před 2 lety +24

      So opportunistic instead of premeditated? That’s definitely a possibility.

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio Před 2 lety +28

      You left out the part where they blamed it on "the drunk gay orgy"

    • @tinamariegallox
      @tinamariegallox Před 2 lety +19

      No, because he didn't die that night. The police mustve held him hostage for some time.

    • @beeeeeeesssss
      @beeeeeeesssss Před 2 lety

      @@nukiradio I now see this, my apologies, that too

    • @beeeeeeesssss
      @beeeeeeesssss Před 2 lety

      @@tinamariegallox Yeah, should’ve added that in somewhere, whoops

  • @leapinglizard3937
    @leapinglizard3937 Před 2 lety +167

    There's something wrong with that autopsy report.
    17:36
    Your bladder empties out within minutes after death, so there's no way Mr Madsen was found with a full bladder. Even if he was beaten, your bladder will empty out from the stress.
    Nah, Mr Madsen died within minutes of being placed under that tree. Placed in that position.

    • @adamlevin438
      @adamlevin438 Před 2 lety +6

      Full bladder when he died not when the autopsy was taken

    • @mommy2libras
      @mommy2libras Před 2 lety +7

      The bladder sometimes empties at or right after death, especially when it's a high stress situation as with death, the muscles being contracted by stress loosen. However it's not some automatic thing that happens when every person dies. Plenty of people die with urine in their bladder that isn't released at all. If it isn't released by the time rigor sets in, then the muscles harden and contract again, though it may be released when the body passes out of rigor mortis because by then, the muscles don't just relax but cellular breakdown begins to happen. Gravity also plays a part- someone standing, sitting or reclined is more likely to release their bladder at the initial relaxation than someone laying completely flat, though this is also affected by factors like the health of the deceased and the fullness of the bladder.

    • @ihoardcathair6636
      @ihoardcathair6636 Před 2 lety +7

      @@mommy2libras was about to point this exact thing out and you beat me to it, kudos to you! Yes, not everyone urinates or defecates directly after dying. It’s common but it varies massively depending on circumstances

  • @toe_crusty
    @toe_crusty Před 2 lety +8

    I had a feeling that was the direction the story was headed even before you mentioned Greenpeace. I remember watching Navalny's video of him exposing Putin's palace and he mentions environmentalists being arrested and tortured for protesting against trees being cut down where the palace was being built, without even knowing what was being built at the time.

  • @redmudpei
    @redmudpei Před 2 lety +1

    Respect for labeling the ad in the timeline

  • @cherryhazard8002
    @cherryhazard8002 Před 2 lety +450

    It's weird to see Jorge work out, it's like I forget he is a real person with a life outside of CZcams sometimes lol.

    • @kevindube7096
      @kevindube7096 Před 2 lety +17

      😂 weird to see him anywhere besides in front of a PC

    • @bennygerow
      @bennygerow Před 2 lety +1

      You watch these? Huh.

    • @liyre4189
      @liyre4189 Před 2 lety +13

      yeah haha it's like seeing your teacher outside of school or watching videos of the guy who plays Connor in Detroit Become Human as himself

    • @sinonasada9078
      @sinonasada9078 Před 2 lety +4

      Is that even him for real 😅

    • @MsTinkerbelle87
      @MsTinkerbelle87 Před 2 lety

      @@sinonasada9078 no it’s the commercial

  • @rachelc8324
    @rachelc8324 Před 2 lety +391

    I’d just like to say that people who commit suicide can definitely seem happy before doing so.
    I doubt this is what happened with Colin, though. The blunt force trauma could mean someone hit him and left him to die, or he got hurt and subsequently died. And haven’t the russian authorities killed for less?
    I feel for his mom the most. RIP.

    • @samsalamander8147
      @samsalamander8147 Před 2 lety +11

      My cousin was in Porta Rico once and she was walking down the beach and she woke up in the Hospital with a bad head wound out of an induced coma. It looked like somone came up and smashed her in the head. It was a coconut. She was smashed off the head by a coconut no joke and it’s actually a common thing. Not saying there is palm trees in Siberia but maybe a branch or rock fell Idk.

    • @fighterman4812
      @fighterman4812 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah but he still had to be taken away from the cabin. It sounds incredibly unlikely that he would just...wander off in that state, and even if a branch or rock did hit him at the cabin...who would just take an unconscious person away like that if they didn't have bad intentions? It just doesn't make sense

    • @maysar4159
      @maysar4159 Před 2 lety +6

      I don't think thats what Jorge was implying; definitely, someone can appear happy before they commit suicide. However, it's usually still seems unusual to outsiders who may know that person well and know the mental turmoil they're going through. By saying he seemed normal, he just means there wasn't any obvious changes in his demeanor(such as being outwardly depressed OR overly/unusually more happy, and of course other signs.)

    • @samsalamander8147
      @samsalamander8147 Před 2 lety +1

      @@fighterman4812 he could have walked out to pee and somthing hit him in the head like a rock or tree. Why would someone have to had taken him out of the cabin? He could have wondered on his own. Maybe even sleep walking.

    • @SwedePotato314
      @SwedePotato314 Před 2 lety +3

      Off topic but I am also a Rachel C born in the 80s so I felt the need to comment and say hi.

  • @moon-ud8tq
    @moon-ud8tq Před 2 lety

    I love the short ones so I can watch more. This is the third video of yours and love your presentations. If I already know the story but curious for more information, I will then watch the long ones too. I'm watching yours after ? mentioned your videos (but enjoying his too).

  • @CC12398
    @CC12398 Před 2 lety

    I just came across your channel. I will look forward to seeing more. I love how you give so much detail about the area with photos. I had no idea it looked like this. Also you never hear anything at all in the news about magnolia. I'd like to hear more about that please if you ever come across cases. Ty :-)

  • @ZukoPrince
    @ZukoPrince Před 2 lety +125

    Police scapegoating everyone else is nothing out of ordinary in Russia, so this is not a evidence of their involvement, but necklaces thing is really suspicious. Did they ever give the explanation of that from their perspective?

    • @cdogthehedgehog6923
      @cdogthehedgehog6923 Před 2 lety +18

      No explanation I can find. Definitely a cover up.
      My guess is they arrested him, he died in custody, and they dumped his body and wiped any record of his interaction with police.

    • @dword1399
      @dword1399 Před 2 lety +1

      @@cdogthehedgehog6923 why would he be in custody?

    • @cdogthehedgehog6923
      @cdogthehedgehog6923 Před 2 lety +12

      @@dword1399 Because they weren't from around there.

    • @woahblackbetty7691
      @woahblackbetty7691 Před 2 lety +1

      Rule No1 of marxism “Blame your enemy for the crimes you have committed” lenin did it,Stalin etc etc

    • @soupster857
      @soupster857 Před rokem +4

      ​@@dword1399 involved in environmentalist movements, generally political, from other comments possibly suspected to be gay?

  • @nicolasalbornoz7175
    @nicolasalbornoz7175 Před 2 lety +52

    Dude had a Brotherhood of steel tag from fallout on his necklace, as a fallout fan this hits even more. RIP Colin.

  • @fallingforever
    @fallingforever Před 2 lety +1

    Great video as always homie. Thank you for once again using my music :)

  • @nick8339
    @nick8339 Před 2 lety +5

    As soon as Green Peace was mentioned, yup.

  • @Steampunkkids
    @Steampunkkids Před 2 lety +117

    The fact that his hands were clenched when they found him . . . Doesn’t that only happen in specific situations? Like being burned or grabbing someone strongly???

    • @nukathecat4319
      @nukathecat4319 Před 2 lety +18

      Yeh and the fact his eyes were open when his body was found. That seems weird

    • @butallislost
      @butallislost Před 2 lety +48

      @@nukathecat4319 eyes usually stay open when people die, funeral directors have to close them. It's pretty normal

    • @marieliedtke9210
      @marieliedtke9210 Před 2 lety +49

      Cadaveric spasms happen sometimes, most often in the hands. It's usually a result from excessive use of the hands (or whichever muscles are affected) before death - this often occurs in drowning, or hanging, but also in assaults. So the clenched fists don't allow you to make any assumption about the cause of death. Open eyes, however, are pretty normal. You see them all the time if you work in a hospital. Hope that helps a bit :)

    • @nukathecat4319
      @nukathecat4319 Před 2 lety +6

      Thanks I didn't know that

    • @TheSilverwing999
      @TheSilverwing999 Před 2 lety +20

      @@nukathecat4319
      It's very normal for dead people's eyes to stay open after death. As a nursing student it happens a lot. And it's so fucking hard to close them again after death. You need a tool to force them shut

  • @HeyItsMeChelseyOnYouTube
    @HeyItsMeChelseyOnYouTube Před 2 lety +236

    Poor Colin. The police are either really lazy so that’s why they were trying to pin it on the friends, or really annoyed that their cover up wasn’t readily accepted. It could be either. The killer(s)… I can’t wrap my head around their motivation since his money was left on his person. Maybe a cocky cop cuffed him and something unfortunate occurred that lead to an accidental death which was then terribly (but apparently it’s good enough to accept?) covered up.

    • @kasperdomagala4544
      @kasperdomagala4544 Před 2 lety +17

      russian police is very very corrupt

    • @karenamyx2205
      @karenamyx2205 Před 2 lety +10

      Foreigner - one of the least powerful people in a society (not any specific nationality, I just mean any person in a foreign social hierarchy)
      vs
      Police - one of the most grossly overpowered people in a society. The authoritative strength to do what they want, and the connections to cover it up.
      Coulda been literally anything. Maybe they didnt like the way the he looked at them.

    • @omgods1
      @omgods1 Před 2 lety +12

      russian police are very lazy and corrupt

    • @samuelthehobo4441
      @samuelthehobo4441 Před 2 lety

      @@kasperdomagala4544 if not, they’re very suspicious
      czcams.com/video/2gKjXpzmWRI/video.html

    • @EvE-zenbymr
      @EvE-zenbymr Před 2 lety +2

      The police killed him because he was a climate activist, and their job is to aid and abet the corporations and governments in their longstanding endeavor of actively destroying the planet so they can make more dollars. All police are hands of the state.

  • @kendoruslink7017
    @kendoruslink7017 Před 2 lety

    I don't know why I enjoy these so much

  • @yoitsjonmac188
    @yoitsjonmac188 Před rokem +1

    I'm subbed, your content is excellent. Thank you!

  • @ToxicCalamari
    @ToxicCalamari Před 2 lety +266

    1 minute gang
    Jorge is always worth dropping everything to listen to

  • @coolboyyo654
    @coolboyyo654 Před 2 lety +233

    wow who would have guessed cops were behind the whole thing they're always so very trustworthy

    • @nascour5991
      @nascour5991 Před 2 lety +20

      I know right cops never do any wrong it's crazy

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 Před 2 lety +9

      We really need to police the police now, make sure the bad apples don't get in, I'm sick of this, it's just getting worse even over here now. Apparently the past year alone, where everybody has been indoors, the police just got bored and started hurting people. Apparently they don't have girlfriends either,t hey can't go home and get consensual bed fun, they have to take innocent unconsenting ones and kill them so they don't tell.
      Or just replace them all with androids, therefore no stupid allo urges to worry about. Robots ent gonna screw anyone, thank heck, unless an Eden Club is built and only they will have the right parts.

    • @EvE-zenbymr
      @EvE-zenbymr Před 2 lety +3

      @@Roadent1241 At this point you need to learn that it's not bad apples. It is their job to maim and kill if a civilian becomes disruptive to capital.

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 Před 2 lety +3

      @@EvE-zenbymr And if they're not being disruptive? Innocent people have been killed by them.
      People that communicate via sign language have been killed by them. What bad were they doing not being able to hear and cooperate as wanted?

    • @EvE-zenbymr
      @EvE-zenbymr Před 2 lety +3

      @@Roadent1241 I should probably have clarified that i am distinctly anti-statist and have a burning hatred for police. My sarcasm did not come through in my text. I'm not gonna blame you for misunderstanding, because there are an-caps in these comments who really do say the darnedest things.

  • @lizhurgeton2637
    @lizhurgeton2637 Před 2 lety

    Longtime rumor listener, 1st time sub. I love shorter-30ish min. Honest? Longer, I get lost unless a COMP..which I ❤️..thanks for being here!

  • @EmeraldCityVideo
    @EmeraldCityVideo Před rokem +8

    I admire his friends for seeking the real truth in the face of the initial cover-up, becuase as soon as they did, I could tell the next step in the story would be "...so the cops blamed them, instead."

  • @kipphz
    @kipphz Před 2 lety +104

    I've said it once and I say it again: Never hike anywhere near Russia.

    • @ohc1492
      @ohc1492 Před 2 lety +6

      That's what I've been telling Bald and Bankrupt, Simon and Harald Baldr.. but they just won't listen.. shm.

  • @maxiom7476
    @maxiom7476 Před 2 lety +84

    Something that should be addressed is why several experienced hikers arrived at the cabin at 2AM and planned on waking at 5AM to make a challenging hike with only 3 hours of sleep and having hiked until 2AM before that.
    It makes me suspect that his friends were perhaps in some sort of trouble prior to Colin's disappearance.

    • @seamusoblainn4603
      @seamusoblainn4603 Před 2 lety +28

      Yeah, that is strange. I've hiked out in Central Asia when I was bigger into it, and you wouldn't do a hard one with so little sleep, though they might have been young and up for the challage.

    • @garrettabcdefg4602
      @garrettabcdefg4602 Před 2 lety +14

      Likely to watch the sun rise. Even in boot camp you'll have hikes, smaller and bigger. With little to no sleep. It is possible and the human mind won't really break down until 48 hours

    • @bonniea.1941
      @bonniea.1941 Před 2 lety +19

      People in their 20’s can do A LOT with three hours of sleep. I say from bed before 9pm. 😂

    • @maxiom7476
      @maxiom7476 Před 2 lety +3

      @@garrettabcdefg4602 No doubt about that. I just wouldn't think they would intentionally push themselves physically and mentally. From the video, it seems the group was geared more towards exploration and enjoying nature, rather than testing their mettle with extreme conditions. Wanting to watch the sunrise does make sense though.

    • @maxiom7476
      @maxiom7476 Před 2 lety

      @@bonniea.1941 This is true also.

  • @rogwarrior
    @rogwarrior Před 2 lety +3

    Couple of questions: 1. His stomach contents should give a more determinate time of death, why wasn't that discussed? 2. What was the temperature during the times he was gone? Many people think hypothermia is caused by cold temperature but, it doesn't need to be that cold. The head trauma....could have that been caused by him running into a tree. He may have thought some wildlife was chasing him and he ran into a tree in the dark. It could have been his friends. They may have been goofing off (they were up until 0200 and hiking at 0500) an accident happened and he died. They left him there and went to bed. DO we know for sure he was in the cabin that night?

  • @oldspicey6001
    @oldspicey6001 Před rokem

    Damn, been a minute since I was thrust head first into a pre-show add like that. Good video.

  • @roobee1234
    @roobee1234 Před 2 lety +63

    Ah yes books, the clear sign of a murderer 🙄

    • @bonniea.1941
      @bonniea.1941 Před 2 lety

      I’ve read a lot of books so I’ve probably also killed a lot of people? 😂

    • @anonymousher0
      @anonymousher0 Před 2 lety

      @@bonniea.1941 I know about that secret room under your basement floor.

    • @bonniea.1941
      @bonniea.1941 Před 2 lety +2

      @@anonymousher0 You won’t tell anyone, though, right?? 😂 Sadly, I live on the west coast and don’t have a basement. 😭 I have to hide the bodies in the crawl space which isn’t as efficient. 🤷‍♀️ I guess I should give up reading for the sake of society.

    • @hicknopunk
      @hicknopunk Před 2 lety +1

      You hollow out books to fill them with your murder tools.

  • @taticatnineland
    @taticatnineland Před 2 lety +62

    By around 13:00, I’m getting a really strong feeling that Colin had some kind of run-in with authorities that ended in his death, and as this goes on, that feeling is just getting stronger. He could have stepped out of the cabin to urinate or to check on a noise and gotten diverted by someone who was already around the cabin, intending to cause trouble or looking for something to steal.

    • @HotTakeAndy
      @HotTakeAndy Před rokem +4

      Right? It’s like he went to take a pee in the middle of the night and this is when it happened.

  • @KiwikimNZ
    @KiwikimNZ Před 2 lety +3

    What a talented, bright and amazing young man. What a shame this young man met his fate like this.

  • @scotttrent4721
    @scotttrent4721 Před 2 lety +7

    Has Greenpeace said anything about this case? You’d think that if he was an active supporter of their work, they would weigh in on what happened.

  • @mr.hanzano1844
    @mr.hanzano1844 Před 2 lety +204

    Jorge always talks about these cases like a pro. I could totally see him a detective game like ace attorney.

  • @evanthegreatandpowerful8628

    2 uploads in 30 days?!?!? This is truly a time to behold. Thank you Jorge!

  • @nrgao
    @nrgao Před 2 lety

    That 80s synthwave playing in the ad was a vibe!!! lol Man's ads are even good. Get him a show CZcams!

  • @maffovoice
    @maffovoice Před 2 lety +6

    oh my god we studied in the same university in Irkutsk i was so shocked to see a familiar face in my recommendations. a shocking story but also the complete inaction of the russian authorities is so expected, we have to deal with every day living in russiia, so done with this country it makes me sick

  • @krausercruz2780
    @krausercruz2780 Před 2 lety +60

    I think the strangest part of the whole thing is the Authority's reaction.
    It would be one thing if they just ignored the case but yelling and spitting to people asking about it, accusing them of being gay who wanted to just have an orgy, their consistent attempts to accuse them of being drug addicts or alcoholics, their general demeanour to the lack of evidence to their accusations.
    It's just... It kinda sounds like a cartoon episode where an evil company tries to (poorly) make the good guys look bad, you know what i mean?
    It just feels like a lot of unnecessary effort for something they could just dismiss.

  • @sourgreendolly7685
    @sourgreendolly7685 Před 2 lety +187

    In case you care: awry is pronounced ah-RYE (like eye)
    In case you don’t: no worries, just thought I’d share

    • @AmandaPanda83
      @AmandaPanda83 Před 2 lety +18

      Thank you for the comment, I was gonna post if I didn’t see one :)

    • @vault_tec_404_4
      @vault_tec_404_4 Před 2 lety +15

      Aww and rye bread is what I think when I see the word

    • @Incaensio
      @Incaensio Před 2 lety +8

      He's also pronouncing the city of Irkutsk wrong. There's no A sound at the end.

    • @Nothinggirl
      @Nothinggirl Před 2 lety +3

      Yah I had to check if I’d been pronouncing it wrong this whole time. There’s been many times where I’ve read a word many times but never said it out loud - when I do it’s wrong

    • @ashleyhuertas594
      @ashleyhuertas594 Před 2 lety +2

      I came here for this comment 😂

  • @lauren6016
    @lauren6016 Před rokem

    I met one of the guys who was in this hike but never knew the details, but when I saw the description and location in this video I knew immediately that this was who he was talking about

  • @8ngeIo
    @8ngeIo Před 2 lety +1

    It’s been 6 years since I’ve been on this channel glad to be back😁

  • @marumaru2105
    @marumaru2105 Před 2 lety +15

    14:44
    The cops really said “He was gay and so were all his friends so quit looking into his mysterious death”

  • @LtheOriginal
    @LtheOriginal Před 2 lety +61

    7:19 "So it was concluded that we killed Colin"
    I mean, that's what a investigator who doesn't give AF would say just to brush the case off quickly.
    "And then made sexual intercourse on his dead body"
    HOLD ON, WHAT?

    • @SignatureFox713
      @SignatureFox713 Před 2 lety +8

      Russia is one of the biggest countries in the developed world where homosexuality is outlawed, heck even telling someone that gay people exist is illegal. So that doesn’t surprise me that the police, which is in the government of Russia, would believe that about people who support “western” ideologies

    • @LtheOriginal
      @LtheOriginal Před 2 lety +1

      @@SignatureFox713 The part about insinuating they're gay isn't the issue. (I mean, you're right, it's outlawed in Russia.)
      But I still think you're missing something major in that final statement.

  • @Zaboski.Bibongi.Gabogi
    @Zaboski.Bibongi.Gabogi Před 2 lety +2

    when looking more in to this case I accidentaly saw the picture of his body that was leaked. this is so tragic and it fully looks as if he was dumped there.

  • @ForneverstarOfficial
    @ForneverstarOfficial Před 2 lety

    Another gem 💎

  • @mustbetheSUN
    @mustbetheSUN Před 2 lety +41

    This is kinda common in my country. I'd think that cops pulled him aside (maybe to arrest him, maybe to show off or get some money) and then one cop got overboard with the use of force and they had to cover up the result. In some places, all you need to get into the police force is wanting to have a gun, so imagine a whole force of your average idiot high school bully.

    • @lucamckenn5932
      @lucamckenn5932 Před rokem

      We have a lot of those in the USA. The types of people who were evil, wretched children grow up to be politicians and police. Now we have an army of IRS thugs with the only prerequisite for the job being "do you want to own and handle a firearm?" And I'm sure those guns will strictly be used for diplomacy.

    • @nickmonk7945
      @nickmonk7945 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Wow!

  • @immkai
    @immkai Před 2 lety +52

    When the necklace thing came up the thing that immediately came to my mind as plausible was one person taking it as a disgusting souvenir and perhaps the other(s) found out and forced them to "return it" because that would've been a HUGE loose end and would've for sure got them caught. Which again, points to the police.

  • @THISisMADDNES69
    @THISisMADDNES69 Před 2 lety +1

    The intro and outro theme is banger 👌

    • @rohitvk_9752
      @rohitvk_9752 Před 2 lety

      What's the music he uses especially for ad's?

  • @davidonukwugha6954
    @davidonukwugha6954 Před 2 lety

    Honestly the case so strange and badly invested and mysterious he could have just as easily been posed by a ghost. Great video

  • @ghostratsarah
    @ghostratsarah Před 2 lety +82

    I've only ever heard LordanArts cover this case, so I'm amazed to hear it here. Man. This story is traumatizing just to hear. This has stuck with me more than any of the other thousands of hours worth of things like this I've listened to.

  • @napoleon8181
    @napoleon8181 Před 2 lety +62

    I feel really bad for this kid's family, but jeez I could have warned him that doing Greenpeace antics in Siberia can get you tortured and killed by the Siberian petrostate. There's places where doing that kind of thing is a total deathwish (Saudi Arabia is another).

    • @PauloGarcia-sp5ws
      @PauloGarcia-sp5ws Před 2 lety +6

      Yep, that was my thought exacly. Don't go to a possibly dangerous place like that and act against the norm, its just asking for trouble. Sometimes its best to just conform and stay quiet to save your hide until its time to leave.

    • @ageofadversity
      @ageofadversity Před 2 lety +2

      I live in an area where there is a lot of lumber harvesting and I know that environmentalist who mean well and come to our area trying to prevent logging are seen as outsiders who are going to prevent many locals from having a livelihood. If you mess with peoples way of living they can become violent and very upset. I think that Americans who go to foreign countries trying to enact some kind of a political agenda need to be a lot smarter. Still breaks my heart for this mom who lost her baby boy and I feel very bad for her.

  • @ivydune4185
    @ivydune4185 Před 2 lety +4

    His position when he was found to me it means that he died face down, arms held, and...sorry...abused not just by one person (at least two to held each arm). Possibly the police did it or knows who did it. Too late to know if he got any messages or calls before leaving the cabin. But also he may be known or spotted beforehand, since he used to go to that place, right?

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios Před 6 měsíci +2

    Untied shoes, no socks, and the rest of his stuff still in the cabin?
    Dude went for a piss and encountered someone who didn't like him being there.

  • @MAK3030
    @MAK3030 Před 2 lety +51

    Always been a fan of you since the creepy pasta videos, keep up the good work bro ! 👍🏼

  • @runlikewes
    @runlikewes Před 2 lety +33

    I don’t know why but the month of November and your vids coexist together in my head, so glad to see this upload! Hopefully we can get another upload before the end of the month :)

  • @EditLivy
    @EditLivy Před 2 lety +7

    I have a question. In which kind of Greenpeace activities was Colin involved while there? As you might know, this could range from very harmless things like putting out flyers or collecting signatures for some kind of petition up to break ins in the middle of the night at suspicious factories / agricultural plants etc. and destroying something or putting up banners somewhere. So another theory would be he was on some kind of "Mission" that night and met his fate in doing so. (Yes, and someone later found him /hid him before bringing him to the place where he was finally found because they didn't want him to be found on their property etc. )

  • @nickmonk7945
    @nickmonk7945 Před 11 měsíci +2

    My feeling is that his death was an accident, perpetrated by the police. I think they held him were captive for some time, days, trying to rough him up a bit in an attempt to frighten him enough to leave the area or stop his activism but went too far and caused his death, then dumped his body and tried to cover up the murder.
    RIP Colin Madsen