Riese & Müller Homage GT Touring HS Review - $6.8k
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- The Riese & Müller Homage GT Touring HS is a full suspension urban electric bike with high-torque or high-speed motor options, comfortable gel saddle, premium ergonomic grips, and upright geometry provide comfort. Premium Supernova lights run off of the ebike battery systems, the backlight goes bright when either brake lever is pulled and the headlight has a low and high beam, metal enclosures add protection. Included ABUS Alarm Lock is keyed to match the battery, dual-battery option extends range, extra-wide fenders keep you dry and are reinforced to nearly eliminate rattling, reflective tires, large 180mm hydraulic disc brakes. Unique suspended rear rack reduces strain on cargo or child passengers, very little frame flex despite the deep step-thru design, heavier than most competing products but comfortable at speed, dual air-suspension is highly adjustable, multiple drivetrain options (Rohloff, NuVinci, Shimano), and multiple display choices (Kiox or Intuvia), only one color, three frame size options.
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- Battery removal 4:49
- Control systems overview 12:43
- Ride tests 31:21
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I checked the Kiox display at my local R & M dealer here in Europe! It is now possible to scroll through the menu options without having to click back with the arrow key to return to the starting point! Thanks for your excellent work, folks! Greetings from Austria!
EBR reviews ebikes in all price ranges and that shouldn't change. I bet for every guy saying I wish he'd stop reviewing these expensive European bikes there's a guy on the other end of the spectrum saying I wish he'd stop reviewing these cheap Chinese bikes. If you're not a prospective buyer in this price range (neither am I) just watch them for their educational value. As these manufacturers hit critical mass and achieve economies of scale many of the features you see on the spendy bikes will 'trickle down' to less expensive bikes. It used to be only the top of the line cars came with power windows and automatic transmissions. Now virtually everything has power windows and automatic transmission. You get the idea. This is the ebike for the 1%, accept it for what it is.
Great point, Gary! Thanks for chiming in... These really fancy ebikes help me sharpen my review skills and learn so I can present deeper insights on affordable bikes, and explain the trade-offs better. I really appreciate your support :)
I like watching supercar reviews too. I'm never going to buy one, but it is interesting to see the start of the art.
Congratulations to Chris at Propel Bikes for the new shop. Awesome. Spread the ebike love..
Yeah! I'm excited for him too, still lots of work going on to get that shop opened, but it's cool to hang with him and review these new models between other appointments and construction on his end.
Thanks Tom! I appreciate the support.
This is over 2 years ago one can still here the passion in their discussion
The new Homage looks great. I could see a lot of people going for that one. The step-through looks really good and it does remind me of a scooter. No one has a scooter you have to step over, so this type of bike really makes sense.
R&M really make the best looking low step bikes. When I saw the Nevo it was the first time I felt that I wanted a step through bike. And this is the same. They’re going to have real universal appeal.
And I think in future, I probably would go for the rohloff if I could afford it. Great to see them switching from chain to belt with the rohloff as well. It looks so clean.
Hey Chris! Thanks for sharing your perspectives, I agree that this is more approachable (and for me, more enjoyable) than a gas powered scooter or even electric if I had to ride it on roads vs. paths. I'll be covering more R&M models with Chris and we will focus on the Rohloff a bit more. Seems to be a big interest here :)
Man, I’ve become a groupie. My heart leapt when CZcams told me there’s a new EBR review, especially of an R&M.
Sweet! Haha, I appreciate your support Richard. Got a bunch more coming, some really cool R&M updates this year :)
Thanks guys. This feels like an extension to the human body. Satisfying to see the Kiox display as the motor kicks in. Combined with a clean belt drive/Internal hub, battery/light integration and the various performance detectors. Its not hard to imagine the future of ebike design right here.
Agree, this experience was very satisfying and sets a different standard for what ebike riding can be. Very cool!
That rear suspension jars my aesthetic sensibilities, nice bike though, they're really positioning themselves as the Rolls Royce of the electric bike world.
Nice review Court.
Thanks Tony :)
Naw stealth electric bikes has that title
Hey! Thankyou for so complete review guys! I was waiting so much for the very first Homage 2019 review!! I ordered 3 weeks ago from Spain and every day I refesh your Channel searcimg for it. 😂. Thank to you and Propel Electric bike people form around the world are buying R&M bikes, like me. 🤗
You're welcome, I appreciate your support and encouragement... and I like the number 7 :D
You made a good choice! I have been super excited about this bike. It's been a bit of an uderdog in the past, but the new design really makes it shine. I think it's going to be really popular. Let us know how you like it when you get it.
EBR definitely needs to review these bikes. If anything, when I saw nothing from Riese & Muller from Interbike I was worried that the no service-fee no play approach had taken its toll. Looks like Propel Bikes paid for this review, but still, I am happy Chris has. I purchased a Riese & Muller Charger from a dealer here in Australia who, at the time, were trying real hard to clear their Kalkhoff stock and were really pushing me to purchase that brand instead. I test rode a few bikes and the R&M was in a different league all together. Yes, they are expensive, but it is one of those cases where you feel the extra cost is justified. At 4,000km and just one standard annual service I could not be happier. If anything, although it has been just about a year, I'm already thinking of trading up for the Super Charger.
Interesting, I heard something about Focus and Kalkhoff maybe not being in the US as much this year? I wonder what their strategy is... seeing a lot of Gazelle updates, feels like they are shifting that way right now. It's neat to hear your perspective, having purchased one, and I agree that there is a premium feel and reliability here that helps to justify the price. I feel thankful that Chris is sponsoring these reviews and yeah, it was tough skipping their booth... but I only had limited time and want to honor the brands that are willing to make the trip possible for me. Interbike is a lot of work, and I've gotten sick and run myself really lean financially to cover it in the past. This year worked better :)
The dealer has told me a number of times that he uses my experience as a prime example on how Riese & Mueller bikes simply "sell themselves". He didn't have to upsell the R&M bikes to me. Simply riding one was enough for me to convince me all on my own.
It's a pity they didn't help you with your Interbike trip. Let me know who I can contact to reiterate the importance of what you do for the ebike community outside of the EU!
Great review. Bike seems well made. I do agree with the guy from Propel bikes that this bike is a little complicated, but well made. I have the Model S from the electric bike company. It has no gears, and that works for me. Its simple, the chain does not come off, and its reliable. I am a little intimidated by this bike, and the cost is prohibitive, unless there is a payment plan. Overall im excited about this bike, but i don't think I'm ready for it yet.
That's cool, I'm glad you're enjoying the Model S! That is a great one... and the simplicity does seem to make it reliable. Some companies are now offering finance through programs like Affirm. I haven't dug into it much, but sounds interesting. Chris and some other dealers might have more info about that too.
Beautyful urban location!
great as always, thanks! would have been very interesting if you talk a bit more about your experience with Rohloff E14 especially in comparison with Nuvi nci
Cool! We will comment more on that in future R&M reviews when testing a bike with the E-14. If you've got any specific questions or angles you'd like to see, just comment here and I'll try to incorporate :)
That's a really great review, thank you! I am thinking about ditching my company car in favour of an Homage. It's a bit scary as I lack fitness, but I'm hoping that this bike could be a solution to that problem.
That's the bike I really wish to buy.
Me too, I really like this one :D
Awesome bikes...I love internal geared hubs better! They both can use belts vs chains to be the best!
Court I like the disclosure comment at the beginning.
Thank you so much! I sincerely appreciate your positive recognition of this, it has taken some energy and bravery to communicate it, but I have done so because I love you guys and want to be honest... it sets a high standard for me too, and I intend to honor you.
Great Review, Court. Bought a used Charger HS Nuvinci and I'm really happy with it. Have you or Chris heard about problems with the Nuvinci? My bike had the hub changed under warranty and the new one seems to have a limited ratio on fast speeds. Next time i might choose the Rohloff instead.
Keep up the good work!
r4z0r1 sounds like the overdrive was not set right on the hub. Search how to set the overdrive on Nuvinci and you’ll see what I’m talking about. If not set correctly you could have limited range of the hub.
When I have 8K I will be getting one!
Hey man! How's the Propella working out :D yeah, this would be one of my top choices if I had the extra money and was riding daily... wait a minute, I do ride daily... just on lots of different ebikes XD
I love R&M bikes, but that little screen on the new one would not work for me. How many of us have perfect vision to see such a little screen, and you should not have to take your eyes off the road that long to read that little thing. I would hope that is an option you can delete. lol. Great review though, as usual!
Thanks! It's cool that R&M are allowing people to choose from the larger Intuvia or the new Kiox for their bikes. You'd even save some money if you went with the Intuvia in this case :)
I thought the hole time, these are more motorcycles than normal ebikes and short before the end, you mentioned that, too.
Yes they’re expensive, but they’re not the same like a lot of those overpriced normal ebikes. They’re really massive compared to typical ebikes.
There will always be the discussion what is the right price for such a bike and what should you review more. I have a 1250€ ebike, now I bought the Cube Touring Pro for 2500€ but I would wish, the people would test both before buying. The cheap one is doing it’s job, no question, but it’s like driving an undifined something with questionable driving characteristics. It’s safe, that should be said. The driving characteristics of the Pro are so sharp and defined, that you wouldn’t buy the cheap one, when you tried both.
And thats the point with the R&M bikes. You really have to try one and then judge. They’re completely out of reach for me, but it’s really like riding an S-Class Mercedes.
Great perspective and points there Benjamin. For me, even reviewing so many bikes across the spectrum, there's a really solid polished feel about the Homage in particular that makes it feel like a motorcycle or nice scooter. It's a cool experience, but I'm also priced out ;)
I love the both suspension on this bike...However, there's no chain guard...and having 33.0Kg sounds very heavy to pedal without power assist.
Fell in love with this bike at Propel in Brooklyn! Thanks Court and Chris to your excellent analysis and recommendations! I’m wondering whether it’s stupid to get a bike that isn’t sold where we’re likely moving (Columbus, OH) in the next year? Would really appreciate feedback before making the purchase!
Great work, these bike look amazing. A little pricey though, for the same money I could get a used 800 cc BMW motorcycle,
True, I value this product more highly in my personal life... like if money weren't an object, I actually want to ride an electric bike because I dislike riding motorcycles in traffic. ebikes are quiet, can be taken on many bike trails etc. Riese & Müller is just one of the more premium brands, so the price is high, but I have a whole list of affordable ebike reviews here: electricbikereview.com/category/affordable/
Used things are cheaper than new things. Who knew?
Why did another review on another site say that the Magura brakes struggle with a bike this heavy?
Hi again, I have question about Homage what's the difference or the advantages of homage GT rohloff HS over homage GT Vario HS?
And how much has this bike depreciated now? A lot!! Wait a year or two and could pick these up for half price if you can still find them which is possible. Same goes for any of the ebikes.
Can you hear the murder at 6:52?
Hahaha, yeah! This video is going to become evidence now :P
Hehe
Hi, if I need to ask before I buy homage to customise the handelbar and replace it with the handelbar of other models so I will not bend my back when I ride the bike my question which model of riese and muller ebikes can offer flix handelbar I mean I can make up or down? thanks
I'm sorry but whoever designed that frame definitely dropped the ball when it comes to that piece that goes up to the rear rack. I know they probably did that to help support weight that you put on the rack but it just looks bad. It definitely throws the lines of that bike off. I mean they could have had it come up on a steeper angle and then go horizontal beginning or mid rack.
Court -- Please review the latest Homage with Enviolo hub and belt drive and dual batteries. This review is quite old.
That would be the Homage GT vario
Hello, I would like to ask you if a R & M Homage GT touring (bosch cx performance) with traditional 11-speed gearbox, could consume less (have less autonomy) than a traditional city bike but with the same engine and ratios. I'm talking about the model with only one battery.
In short words, does a Homage have a heavy weight? How much autonomy can it have?
Thank you
Surely better as an E motor bike with a belt. The pedals must only be there to turn it into an exercise machine.
It actually pedals quite well, I tried it on off mode and was impressed... the wide 11-46 tooth cassette really empowers you at the lower speeds as well as the high :)
6.7k, eh? That's like 13 used cars, but the bike's still way better.
Agree, this ebike is much more fun than 13 cars... but it would be fun to have a bunch of used cars and then have a big race with all of your friends or maybe a monster truck rally or something :P
What is the difference with the culture?
Like ebike reviews!......I bought a riese und Muller Birdy and I like designs of the delite but, the prices, wtf!
Thanks! These are definitely some of the more expensive ebikes out there... I really like the Birdy, great choice!
damn thats a nice bike
Can you do one of the MATE s that came out last year?
Why do none of these bikes have a throttle?
Because it's a mid-drive motor. Mid-drive motors never have throttles, but they are far more efficient and smoother to operate than hub motors.
@@kylewist7745 yeah, the weight distribution makes for better handling and stability while riding but why no throttle? mine came with one. ｈｔｔｐｓ：／／ｅｌｅｃｔｒｉｃｂｉｋｅｒｅｖｉｅｗ．ｃｏｍ／ｅ－ｒａｄ／７５０－ｗａｔｔ－ｍｉｄ－ｄｒｉｖｅ－ｃｏｎｖｅｒｓｉｏｎ－ｋｉｔ／
Not true. Bafang mid-drive motors can be and usually are outfitted with a throttle. I'm guessing it's more of a Euro thing that they don't make use of a throttle.
That's interesting. Thanks for the education. I ride a Trek Verve+, and if this is truly possible, I really wish Trek (an American company) would add throttles to their mid-drive bikes. Even their $5,000 28mph Super Commuter 8+ doesn't have a throttle.
All the other mid-drive bikes I researched didn't have throttles, either, but I didn't see any using the Bafang system referenced here. Is it just a conversion kit, or are there companies that integrate it more cleanly into purpose-built bikes?
Hey guys! European companies almost never have throttles on ebikes because it is not legal in most Euro countries, such as Germany. They have Class 1 (pedal assist to 15.5mph / 25km/h) and we in North America get that raised to 20mph. They also have Speed Pedelecs which can reach roughly 28mph but require special licensing... In much of North America, no special licensing is required. AND many companies here, such as Pedego, do have throttle options. The seem to be popular for cruisers... and yes, Steven Schwartzstein is correct that many mid-motors do offer throttle. Check out much of the EVELO line: electricbikereview.com/brand/evelo/ which use Bafang or the Pedego mid-drive City Commuter which uses the Dapu centerdrive electricbikereview.com/pedego/city-commuter-mid-drive/ I hope this helps! You won't see Bosch, Brose, Yamaha, or Shimano drive systems with mid-motors because their bigger markets are all in Europe, so they just use the same or slightly overclocked versions of hardware for the States.
I don't much like this new smaller Bosch Kiox display unit and I don't understand why you are spending so much time pushing Bosch new product which is not due until November 2019 next year. Surly you should be reviewing what's available now as this does not help sellers trying to sell todays bikes. Does Bosch pay you more than other companies.
Hi Dean, Bosch didn't pay me for this review and hasn't paid for any prior ones. I just like their products because they have been good communicators and listeners to me and shops and customers. I realize this screen isn't out in the US yet, but I believe that it is more available in Europe. Chris was excited to cover this bike, so we went for it. I geek out on whatever is in front of me. Got a more affordable product that will be posting later today :)
For the money, you could pick up a Radcity Rover AND a new (for the US) 2018 Honda Cub motorcycle...
I really have enjoyed your reviews, but with paid commercials vs. a Patreon VIEWER paid web site , the Patreon might allow for more journalistic objectivity. With Kind Regards, and many thanks...
Thanks Steven! I'll be mixing in different brands at different price points. These ones are fun for me because I learn along the way and enjoy the complexity. I'd be doing very similar work even if it was unpaid... the first 600+ reviews were all unpaid but I had ads on the site to help make ends meet. This new model is actually more relaxing for me and I think I'm still very impartial, but call me out if you feel like I cross a line and I will read your feedback and consider it :)
definately the cadillac (mercedes) of ebikes
Did I hear that correctly?.. $7800.00.. Just get a moped
This bike looks awful like you forget design,optional battery on top of nearly $7.000 FFS
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I like this one, we had a good time reviewing it... it handled stairs like a champ!
For that price I could buy a car...Bosch...BMW 325.coup for that rip off price
I just clicked because of the mind boggling price R&M demands. Its pretty outrageous . I could do better ,building on a light fast 2 year old used bike with Shimano deore,hydraulic brakes and Rochshox with only a sixth of the price,better range and slightly faster...
Funkywallot and I could build a car faster than a Porsche for a fraction of the price, but I’d much rather drive a Porsche.