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Riese & Müller Delite GT Rohloff Review - $8.7k
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
- The Riese & Müller Delite GT Rohloff is a top of the line full suspension electric bike with sturdy suspended rear rack that will be gentle on a child-seat passenger or your cargo in a trunk bag and panniers. Custom hydroformed aluminum alloy frame positions the motor and battery weight low and center for excellent balance. Two color options and three frame sizes with adjustable stem provides excellent fit. Premium 65mm plastic fenders are durable and mounted with additional support arms to stay put on rough terrain, no chattering experienced... paint-matched arms that wrap below fenders to reduce snags. Super bright Supernova front and rear lights that run off of the rechargeable integrated ebike battery, the rear light goes bright when either brake lever is pulled. Gates Carbon belt drive is cleaner than a chain and more reliable, custom pulley system routes the belt over the rear swing arm for easier wheel maintenance and replacement (no frame cuts here). Electronically shifted Rohloff geared hub is durable and provides a huge 265-degree gearing ratio with 14-gears for use on any sort of terrain. High price point reflects the custom build and premium components, but I think you're also paying for the R&M name. International assembly and built-to-order means you could be waiting months to receive the bike if you live in North America. Only specced with the PowerPack 500 vs. higher capacity 625. Can't add a PowerPack or double-battery option later and the PowerTube is longer and heavier than PowerPack, so less portable to bring a second along in a bag.
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Battery details and removal at 9:27, Charging port 15:28
Display options overview and Bosch Kiox details at 18:10
Ride test begins 23:22, Closeups and suspension at 25:15
A question : can you ride with one battery in the double battery super delight?
Another what bike would you get for yourself if you could get one bike?
I have had this model (but GX) now for a couple of months. Yes it is expensive but worth every dollar. Find the bike pretty quiet so maybe needs a few miles/km to settle in.
It will probably will be my only ebike as I am the wrong side of 70 so I am expecting it will see out a couple of bikes worth half the price.
I get plenty of exercise cycling above the speed cutout which is 25kmh downunder.
This bike may not suit everybody but I have no regrets. The way the world is at the moment just enjoy the ride whatever bike you have.
Stay Safe Stephen
There is no wrong side of 70.
It's a great bike, but it's not worth every dollar. It's ridiculously overpriced.
My wife and I - still on the right side of 70 :-) - have been biking all our lives. Took this and the Load70 for a test ride today. They were super comfortable and easy to ride - like the Rolls Royce of cycles. If you can swing it, e-bikes do not get better than this. We still use ordinary bikes but want e-bikes while we are agile and easily can adapt to an e-bike system. Too many accidents with older riders. Can also help motivate for rides when wind, rain and snow makes biking a chore.
@@bry2k AMEN.........profit is their business.
This bike is a very nice bike, but it is hard for many Americans to understand - as they compare it price-wise to other bikes. I think Europeans see it as an alternative to a motor scooter or motorcycle and even a car. So price-wise, for them it is cheaper overall - due to no cost of gas, insurance, etc.
The Rohloff hub does quiet down after a few hundred miles. Now with over 3,000 miles on it, I do not notice any drag on the Rohloff. The Gates belt does make a little noise after you rack up some miles and you do need to keep the belt properly tensioned, or it will make noise.
Since we own two R+M bikes with Rohloff E-14, I can say getting on a derailleur bike now feels very primitive. We also own an e-cargo bike with Di2 electronic shifting of a derailleur, which is nice but not the same standard as the electronic shift Rohloff. The E-14 is not perfected yet, but its very nice compared to the alternatives. I'll never go back to a derailleur set up.
It still should not cost that much money.
Nice Recap A. Do you have the Bosch high torque CX 20 mph or Bosch high speed 28 mph and what was your rational behind your choice? Thanks in advance.
@@boomertsfx1 Why? It does seem pricey at first but after digesting the price I start to see there is value for those who are serious about their bikes. If your interested you may be able to get few dollars knocked off from a kind dealer.
You are electric bike review king. I really appreciate how u cite things u both like and dislike. Everything has pros and cons and its good to discuss. Thanks for review.
Nice review, thanks. I have the two battery version with knobby tires. It is a thrill to ride on bumpy city streets or mountain bike trails in Texas and Arizona. I bought it from Propel bikes in NYC. They shipped it in a crate to my house in New Orleans. All I had to do was turn the handle bar and tighten the screws. Also installed the pedals. Have been riding it several days a week for four months. I ride other bikes too. The Riese feels like it can go anywhere with the full suspension. On my first trip, 68 miles, the battery ran out at 58 miles because I didn't realize I was in turbo mode. Had to pedal the rest of the way without assist, into a strong headwind. Now I use it mostly in Ecco mode. Love this bike.
Dogwood7, question for you. I’m going to get the SuperDelite. Still undecided about GX version with knobby tires, horned handlebars, wider suspension, flat pedals, dropper seatpost. What can the GX do that the GT cannot do? Is it that much difference?
@@flyshacker The wide knobby tires are great for mountain biking. I use this bike everywhere. It's great on a road as well as bike trails out west. When I am traveling, this is the only bike I take along.
flyshacker l have ordered the GX version after multiple hesitations. Pros : suspensions increased up to 140 mm of travel and adjustable seatpost. Cons : the tyres are not protected against punctures so if you take the rohlhoff version it could be an issue to fix the rear tyre.
@@philippecanepa4509 I have taken the rear wheel off and put it back on. Once you remove belt tension, it comes off. Remove the belt tension bolt and you are on your way. My tires are tubeless, so I use slime in the tires to fix punctures from 🌵 needles.
i just got mine 2. super gx
How you remember all these bits of information about the bikes in your reviews is amazing. You really know your stuff.
Thank you SOOOOO much. It's not easy, I prepare for hours by measuring all of the specs and talking to people at the shop, the manufacturer, and with Bosch directly in this case to double check some things. I also checked with Chris from Propel Bikes in Long Beach California because he's an expert with the E-14 Rohloff. It's a team effort, and I'm really lucky to be in a position where people will help me :)
@@ElectricBikeReview It is CLEAR you are well-prepared. Yes, you have your background knowledge already and know how to compare components, but how you just roll off data that just flows with no breaks on each bike is amazing; plus you do it in an unbiased way considering the cost of the bike and the overall intentions of the manufacturer.
"It's not easy, I prepare for hours by measuring all of the specs and talking to people at the shop, the manufacturer, and with Bosch directly in this case to double check some things."
No, it is not easy but your hard work ahead of time makes it look easy. That's why it's so enjoyable to listen to.
he learned from me
That thing is bad ass. Love that Rohloff. Those of us in the bleacher seats should probably think of this bike as a car replacement for a hedge fund manager married to a Victoria's Secret model. Great video Court; it's awesome to see ins and outs of all these emerging design philosophies. I wouldn’t trade my Gazelle for it but it’s cool.
Hey Gary! Your Gazelle is still one of the nicer ebikes out there, definitely a good value play. This is the "supercar" of ebikes in my mind, neat to check out and share what's possible!! Thanks for your comments :D
Some go and order a carbon framed racing bike for their mid-life MAMIL crisis. I ordered this one. Superdelite GX, Rohloff, front rack. Could not justify the fox upgrade. More comfort, more range, more versatile. I like camping and this is more than capable of carrying all the kit I need. I'm replacing a 22 year old rigid Trek hybrid so the leap in technology is huge. I'm sure I will still be riding this in another 22 years. My oldest son just turned 14 and wants to mountain bike. With this I can follow and keep up with him on the MTB trails, then commute to work the next day. I can also take myself off for a spin through the forest trails late at night once the kids are in bed (the lights look amazing). I live in a hilly area and the prospect of that last hill to get home puts me off going out on my old bike. I tested this bike on some steep hills and you still get puffed climbing them but the difference is that you have a massive smile on your face. It makes hills fun. So, end Feb, mid March I should get it. I cannot wait.
Thorough review. That's why I go to this site first before I even physically check out an ebike.
I'm sure Riese-Muller spent a lot in terms of R&D to develop this, but for an $8.7K belt-driven ebike, I expect it to be quiet. I think Riese-Muller should have used the Bosch Active Line Plus. I'm not going to spend $8.7K+ for an ebike that sounds like my little nephew's R/C car.
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Best ebike reviews available on the web, thank you! Gorgeous bike.
Its a very good bike. I can afford it, but I still think the price is too high, and there are lot of good pedal assist, that are more reasonable . Love the full suspension and the Rohloff. Thanks again, for an excellent detailed review.
Nice review of an amazing bike! You reference the gear ratios in DEGREES, when I believe it should be expressed as a PERCENT. Either way, love these internally geared machines.
This is the upgrade to my two year old bike, except mine has the Nuvinci. If I was buying it again I’d go with the Rohloff for sure. And I’d probably get the Fox suspension as well. I’m still having this weird buzzing with the nuvinci I don’t like. The shop couldn’t figure out if there was anything wrong with it but I feel like it’s not quite right. Another issue I’m finding with my current one is the external battery can only be charged off the bike because I don’t have the second battery. And I’m having a hard time getting it to seat properly when I put it back in. I think I’m hearing the click but I’m not sure. Maybe the key is in the wrong position. Either way, it’s a huge hassle and I want to charge with it on the bike. The internal one is a must for the future. Don’t need two, and it looks too bulky to me as well.
People can talk about the price, but I’m going car free in 3 months. That will save me £250 per month on the finance agreement, hundreds on insurance, hundreds on maintenance, parking etc. I could buy one of these a year and it would work out cheaper than a pretty average car.
OMG
I am very interested in the Superdelight with Rohloff and Fox. You have had your bike now for some time and any new thoughts to add to your thorough comment already? I do have a specific question which is during this review it seems the motor is quite loud and buzzy sounding. I have not ridden one of these bikes because no dealer anywhere near me. Any thoughts you have about noise from motor. Is it annoyingly loud if your wanting a quiet ride and not needing to be somewhere fast or on time? Thanks for any input.
@@tjsullivan4793 I mean the newer Bosch motor this one has is I think quieter than mine. But I love the sound so I would personally be disappointed by that.
Just get it man. They’re awesome. You can’t go wrong.
@@christill Thanks for your quick reply. Also reassuring to know that after many months you still really love the bike. I am going to order one in a month so I will have it for summer. Good luck to you.
@@tjsullivan4793 Awesome. I should also mention that the microphones on the video pick up the motor noise more and make it sound louder than it is in real life. In reality I often can’t hear it over the wind.
Nice bike. Great to see what a bike might look like if money was no object. $9K...love those options and features.
Yeah, these "superbikes" are fun to explore every once in a while. R&M continues to do a great job with design, I like the 2020 Delite with integrated PowerTube the best of all... but it's always been a beautiful ebike.
Best comprehensive reviews covering electric bikes. We have a Gazelle powered by an impulse motor which died, unfortunately several months out of warrantee. We didn't know much about ebikes at first. Service life is never discussed and we could not find service agents in our country or anyone prepared to repair them. Thankfully your videos have helped us to be better informed.
2 Questions to ponder.
1: What would you currently purchase with your own money?
2: If money was no object?
Keep up the amazing videos. Much appreciated.
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Thanx for this review. Coincidentally, ive just been in garage trying to adjust my mudguards on earlier R&M model and newer guards look heaps more robust, as you mention. Too bad these bikes are so pricy but cant fault them on design or quality.
Thank You very much from Germany - Best video about the Delite GT Rohloff in the net! In June I'll get mine!
I’m getting one shorty (in Europe the 45 km speed version GT Rohloff HS) .... & I have to say these are like the MERC Benz G Class of Ebikes.. FORGET about the price... this is a BIKE you’ll own forever & never get off it. It’ll take you everywhere you want to go & more. I took it for a thorough test ride & it delivers on every front.
I miss these type of reviews.
This presentation is excellent. You covered all the essential items plus a few nuggets like that battery removal and exterior transportation demonstration! Thx!
The high cost of this bike makes it a shame to have to compromise with the options but I’m tempted to order the Superdelite Vario with the Fox suspensions, the GX options and the SmartphoneHub. I’d swap back the tires to the Super Moto X and get pedals with clips on one side and flat on the other side.
IMO the Vario transmission is inferior to the Rohloff but I’ll accept the compromise in order to have the SmartphoneHub option because it’s not compatible with the Rohloff E-14 electronic shifting.
Why isn't it compatible? It may just be a website error. Seems odd to me.
Ebike higher end technology trickles down in price slower than I had assumed years ago but it's still fun to see, I'm glad for the perspective and broad variety. Bummer you didn't show this a couple weeks ago when I had the pocket change ;)
Sweet ebike Court. R&M with Rohloff is the best combination. Ride Safely my friend.
Solid review man, congrats.
Riese&Muller is one of my fav brands, and one of the few to offer full suspension + belt drive.
It just exudes quality..all throughout.
That comes with a price...
It's so expensive. I can buy a BMW F750 GS for the same amount of money..
PS: I also like the rear motor Desiknio bikes, with the Pinion gearbox..which you also covered.a d I have seen ...like..10x !
Again, good job !
Thank you.
Cheers from Portugal
I'd wait to see what the depreciation rate is like on these beasts before buying! Amazing bikes tho. Another great review. Thanks buddy.
Thank you, was hoping you would review a belt drive with an Rohloff hub drive. Hope more ebike makers jump into belt drives I. H. D seems like the way to go. Riese & Müller makes nice stuff yet $$$. Have Haibike and Bulls ebike both with around 8,000 miles on them. Hate messing with chains which I replace every 1,500 miles. Be nice to belt drive with no chain to replace every month or so.
Best Wishes Tom B
Tom i agree with u
Always love your thorough reviews.
Thanks.
A+ review as always, thank you good sir. R&M is my aspirational eBike, someday.
What an awesome bike and what a good and honest review! Thank you!
WoW, the bell is impressive for such a bike!
Excellent content, Court. No need to blame the price of it, R&M has designed a plethora of options to choose from, most of which are very satisfying in their features and less pricey - not to say anyone is compelled to buy it, and I wouldn't it. Nevertheless they have an eye for this world of e-bikes, and the market will grow up and adapt later on.
I rode one just recently - it's not really that loud (at least not to me, compared with other ebikes). Now, if my head were down by my waist or below the seat where the camera was, it would probably sound as loud... but up on my shoulders where my head usually is (vs somewhere else sometimes lol) the volume of the motor is just fine. In fact, it's a bit quieter than the motor on my Priority Current, and lower in pitch as well. The sound of the Rohloff is just a bit of ratcheting noise kind of like a 10-speed. By the time I got to about 10mph the wind noise was louder than the whole of the motor and the hub combined. It was a non-issue (for me).
I also rode an Enviolo version. I liked it - it's got a great range of "gear" ratios although not as wide as the Rohloff. The Rohloff has extended range over the Enviolo at both the low and high ends. I live in a very hilly area and got the HS (28mph) version so I went with the Rohloff. If I were getting a 20mph version, I'd seriously consider the Enviolo - the highest gears of the Rohloff wouldn't be much use at 20mph IMHO, and the Enviolo costs _significantly_ less.
I rode over some really crappy road and up a couple of really steep hills and this bike just ate it all up and licked its chops. R&M charges a lot for this baby, but they earn it IMHO. It's quite a bike!
Absolutely, a nice setup for an ebike, but $9k?!? Maybe a used Zero makes more financial sense? ;-/
Kit Babcock Or a Zero10X electric scooter for well under 1/4 the price.
@Martin Schmidt, good e scooter could be viable alternative!
yes everyone agrees with u
Great video. Thanks! Helped me make a decision about which eBike to buy.
You need the dual battery if your riding off road in the hills, you ride in turbo all the time, that's why you buy an Ebike. Get Enduro tires good for all terrain tires, get the fox 36 shock, dropper post a must, full intuvia display not the cheap one. Now your about $10,400.00 but worth it. $8700.00 gets you a commuter bike if that is all your using the for.
Hello Nice Review. I would add that the geometry of the bike is not so common. Different from others brands. By the way, what is your height ? It’s difficult to find the right size. Last point, the bike is expensive but it can be seen as once in a lifetime investment. It also can bring an amount of stress to own such a bike since It can’t be left unattended in a public spot.
They are quite customizable. My wife is very prickly about her set up and a new handle bar is all she needs to get to the right position.
Court, I’m just surprised you’d go with a chain and derailleur when belt drive is available. So few bikes offer belt drive, and the Rohloff with that gear spread is a wow! Anyway, personal preferences, right?
yeah cort has his rights 2
I tried a belt drive once and couldnt stand the thing, the shimano alfine hub with a carbon belt, it was really slow but silent too. Some people love them.
I love this bike but micro USB is kind of useless in 2020. I doubt that when you buy a bike at that price you still have a 5 years old phone at least. It should have been an USB C (but this, is BOSCH fault), and they also could have make an effort on welding and it would have been perfect.
Great review. 🙂
Don’t make the same mistake like I did.
If you live in super steep terrain, take the Rohloff.
Just ruined my 2019 Bosch CX Motor because the E Bike Shimano drivetrain hadn’t enough gears and wore the motor out.
The Neviolo is even worse for steep climbs.
It's just shy of $12,600 AUD. I'd still love to own one but my Merida Espresso was an indulgence tbh at under $4k AUD with aftermarket panniers. This whole ebike scene is about to go nuts here in Oz.....they're addictive once you ride a decent quality example.
Congratulations, you really have invented your own (proprietal and trademarkable) phrase and related word ........"avoiding the 'mashing' of gears". I believe it has to do with traditional "meshing of gears" that is supposed to occur. There is an actual problem that may happen, and it involves the "clashing" of gears. For me, mashing is something I do with potatoes. Trademark it. Enjoyed your excellent review. Ride safe.
Hey Court! Question for you. What is your opinion of the GX option for this bike? The GX option consists of the dropper seatpost, knobby tires, flat pedals, horned handlebars, and a wider suspension range. Do you see any DISADVANTAGES with the GX option? I'm sure it would improve my handling and experience on trails. I am concerned that it might worsen my ROAD handling (with the knobby tires). I envision mostly riding roads and gravel, but I would like the GX option for the occasional trail. I like the horned handlebars for a variety of hand positions, even on roads. But would the knobby tires ruin my ride on the road, even with suspension? Hmmm, probably not, but I would really like your opinion. Thanks for your insights!!
Agree on the noise. It's the only problem with their bikes. :( Maybe they can work with Bosch to make a motor that's as quiet as the Brose models.
Nice bike, would have to sell a kidney to afford it. Great review as always.
How much? I'm trying to avoid dialysis.
for a near 9k bike I hope you dont park that at the local walmart bike rack
I think that's why it's setup with the top of the line alarm lock from ABUS :P
@@ElectricBikeReview it's great but a high level bike usually attracts a high level thief. In a crowded city no one will look twice at a little alarm.
@Tasunke you're right not everyone lives Pablo Escobar era Bogata, a lot of e-bike riders actually live in major metropolitan cities like London, New York, Vancouver and San Francisco which co-incedentally have some of the highest bike theft rates in the world....and since i've lived in downtown San Fran I can definitely imagine my 9k commuter bike being stolen if I leave it unattended outside for too long.
I dont wish bike theft on anyone, have a nice day!
Cool bike. Really surprised how noisy it is though. Even my hub drive is quieter.
Way too Expensive but i get it ..the Rohloff itself costs 2000
Wow, that's crazy to think about. I think the headlight is also super expensive on its own. Still, neat to see what's possible with the tech right now :D
But Rohloff lasts over 1.000.000km
yes thats not what cort said
Great Video! The bike is really nice but the dealer network for R&M is limited. Repairing that hub, or the bike in general, could be a concern. Many bike shops often want to only work on the models they sell, or may be hesitant to deal with tech they are not familiar with.
Thanks! I did my best to be thorough with this review and consider many perspectives, and appreciate your feedback :)
@@ElectricBikeReview Great review as always! Nice job!
the moment you talked about the noise, I'm just guessing, that you were in 7th gear of the Rohloff. This one is the loudest and makes this kind of "coffee mill" - sound. All the other gears are MUCH quieter.
That aside, of course there is some internal gearing in the CX motor which does make it pretty loud indeed.
R&M shipping was great about 4 weeks from ordering a custom configured bike. That was in the summer of 2019. Perhaps COVID has changed things.
Is IT easy to swap the plastic cover from the battery when u want to use a spare battery
I ordered a Charger3 gt hs Rohloff 22 April and the delivery is in the week of 11/15 may .it's from Germany to the Netherlands
I think it's easier than some, the plastic/rubber cover seemed to slide off of the battery vs. surrounding it the way that some others do (specifically the RIB design from Trek). Super excited for you! The Charger is a great choice and it sounds like yours should be here very soon :D
ElectricBikeReview.com Am I missing a trick to get that rubber cover to slide off the battery. My week old Delite has a cover that’s fixed tight. Would love to remove it to use it on a spare battery. You got a special technique Cort? Thanks.
yes it is .hope that helps
These things are ridiculously expensive. I configured this model to AU$13'000! For a 250w motor? A bmw ce 04 has like 3500w and is $7k more
INSANE TO BUY THIS!!!!
Commuting bike for nearly $9k? Someone who can afford that price probably doesn’t have to go to work, or maybe they are commuting to the country club.
That's a hilarious point, lol. I think I fit your description because I actually commuted to review this ebike by driving my 2008 $4k used Prius... but it wasn't nearly as fun as the review ride :D
No. I’m basically poor and I use it to ride for fun on road, off road, up big climbs, on the worst bumpy streets. Everywhere. Don’t commute on it. Never leave it anywhere when I’m out.
They ride it to thier job at Google lol
Its worth it if you can get rid of your car! No expensive car insurance Fuel tax, parking charges.
112deeps Indeed.
Very nice, but the price! 👀😖
Also puny rack and dubious bell and pedals, wtf?
Thanks for your awesome reviews! You never disappoint. If money was no object, you were a 64 yo woman who liked to ride leisurely, like under 20 miles a day, what bike would you recommend? I like to sit more upright.
calling the kashima an anodising is correct, but it's an understatement at the same time
9k...... I'd be afraid to ride it....not kidding...... Isn't there just a minute when you think "Doesn't a Seiko tell the same time as a Rolex?"
They spent a lot of energy designing this masterpiece...unfortunately for them..with current ebikes...last months star...is yesterday’s overpriced minimal sales model!
Love, love, everything about this bike. But, at this price point, why the crap pedals? What are those, entry level Wellgos?
I wonder why the motor is so loud. I'm fairly sure my Diamondback Union 1 has the same motor and it seems much quieter. Past 15 mph or so, I can't hear it over the wind. Maybe the frame design amplifies the sound?
Im going to steal me one of these
Hi there, great video nothing like the usual ebikes you see around. how many watts on this hub motor? Is there a throttle?
What's the difference, except for the transmission from this ebike to an engwe x26 for instance?
I want one!
Oh, me too flyshacker!!! Me too... ;)
ElectricBikeReview.com - Just a heads up... Don’t forget about this combo restaurant, tavern, comedy club, bike rental, and bike repair place near me called Trail House! What a combination of services! Probably worth making an EBR video. :) trailhousesantarosa.com
I can't believe yo uare moaning about the charging port being too low for comfort. All you need to do is bend down to plug it in.
Great presentation, but unless you wanted a Mountain bike why would one choose this over a Specialized Creo Evo which apart from being carbon is about half the weight
The Creo is much quieter and has bottle battery extender. A much smaller issue is mudguards {fenders}. The Creo shows how it should be done
I think, because belt drive, no chain maintenance, full suspension, shifting while stopped. Otherwise, yes, I love the Creo EVO. Tried both.
Really good, high quality bike but:
FUELL FlLUID seems just as high quality (probably even more recent tech) but for $3.9k...
You are actually serious about the issue of how much effect the weight of that small water bottle has on performance? Being accurate to the fraction of a pound or a kilo is one thing, but there is such a thing as taking it too far.
Ooooo.... Fancy!
Hey Kevin or Ryan! Indeed, this is one of the fanciest... I hope you guys are doing well, I still love your bikes for the money ;)
@@ElectricBikeReview Thank you! We miss you, hope you are doing well!
Love my new Ride1Up 700 series, a true value at $1500.00 delivered to U.S. customers. Customer service was also excellent the few times I've needed them.
Best reviews as always -these bikes are the best but ohhh the price is cringy !! Still though these bikes are the cars of the future so they are worth it -both for saving the planet from fossil fuels and extending life span through low impact excercise :)
Court--I'm trying to understand the concept of torque. This Delite, you said, puts out 75 NM of torque. How come another ebike. like the new Dost Drop, have 120 NM of torque and not somehow be worth even more than this R&M? I understand the Rohloff and other great components add up--but what is the difference in the saddle, or the feel of 120 vs 75NM of torque. Thanks, David
Hi, Great review as always. Been trying to connect a HR monitor to my Kiox computer, does not work as intended, not had any luck with Bosch, they do not have instructions or support available. In the UK shops do not know how to get it to work. Can you possibly find out using your contacts and maybe do a video on how and what you can connect. Also could you find out if phone and HR can be used at same time, otherwise you cannot track your bike ride and monitor HR at same time. Again, thanks for the great work
cambike you can connect Bluetooth heart rate monitors to the Kiox. I’m using the Bontrager HR monitor and it works flawlessly.
To pair it you must go to settings, make sure the Bluetooth function is activated in the Kiox, then further in the settings pair the HR monitor.
WATCH OUT: the Bluetooth HR monitor WON’T connect to Kiox if it’s already connected to your smartphone. You must choose one or the other. I choose to connect via Kiox and for that I first deactivate Bluetooth momentarily on the iPhone, stand next to the bike/Kiox with my HR monitor strapped on, check that the HR is displaying on the Kiox and finally reactivate the Bluetooth on my iPhone so that the ebike connect app can communicate with Kiox.
If you follow the above steps Kiox will collect the HR, the distance, the speed, the power delivered by your legs, and transfer them to the e-bikeConnect app which in turn records the GPS 3D position and uploads all the data to the ebike connect website. From the website you can then export it to Strava, so you don’t have to run Strava on your smartphone while riding.
I get that these are supposed to be bulletproof but if I'm going to buy something this heavy and expensive, I'm just going to get a motorcycle.
Yeah, I can see that... maybe an electric motorcycle like the ZERO! I got to test drive one a few years back and it was awesome! Downsides are licensing, insurance, and can't ride on paths... I didn't feel as safe riding a motorcycle in traffic as I do on an ebike most of the time.
For 9k I can buy a really nice 400cc gas scooter which will last much longer and retain value better.
why them cant replace frame to carbon?
I think if you do adjustments Aquaman would love it
DITCH the Roloff! My gods, I taught an 80 yr old guy how to shift gears on his bike. The power loss in the battery that would prevent shifting is a BRIGHT RED DANGER flag to me. With SRAM and Shimano producing 11 ring cassettes, rohloff is even less necessary. (Rohloff is great tech, but not at expense of emergency use)
I'd love a rohloff hub on my bike. The reduced maintenance would be worth every cent to me.
If money is no object and you want the best eBike, you buy a R&M with the Rohloff hub.
Yup- I love my R+M w Rohloff and full suspension. Great all-arounder! NO MAINTENANCE! Yay!
That was a very noisy bike. My Bafang BBSHD-build for a fraction of the price is totally silent. More powerful too. But I'd love to have that Rohloff :-D
I have Tongsheng midmotor. Not the best quality but it's silent and with good speed. Not so many parts in motor, easy to work with (changing bearings etc).
My friend wants this....
Batman would like it for Chrismas
is this the most comfortable bike or ebike you've ridden?
I want an ebike for one reason only, namely in order to escape madness and abuse. I like beauty but I like function more. I'm a function over form sort of person anyway. When you deal with function, usually it doesn't impact form (appearance) all that much. I want panniers. And I wish that they made better and larger panniers. The only thing large about the largest panniers is their price tags. Give me a front rack and a large rear rack and good lights (for being seen and seeing) and a non toy horn. And give me something solid that will take some weight because I do 'everything' with my bike. I'm 65 and have no desire to race or pretend to.
If Batman rode a bicycle this is probably the one. 😎
Even if it is R&M here is nothing, to justify 8700$ and you can upgrate and upgrate and upgrate. Thats trying to rip off customers. They try to train the brains of their customers for higher and higher prices. I loved this company, but thats nuts. It's a normal frame, for that price we are deeply in carbon territory. The Rohloff is the only part on this bike, that is special. No dual battery for 8700€, the weldings doesn't look overwhelming, non polished, but these are things where I would say, for that money they have to go two extra miles but they didn't. Just have a look, what top notch monsters you get from the premium fully manufactures for that price. Sorry, but it rages me when companies rip off their customers.
Their bikes look good but damn, their prices!
It’s like a Ferrari w/out sexiness, performance, quality parts, value, demand, etc...
More like a Bentley. Heavy and loaded with premium parts for an exceptionally smooth ride. Trek or Specialised would be more the equivalent of Porche. Much more nimble and sporty. Not sure about Ferrari!
Do We really need to pay Reese & Mueller when we have so many American made, beautifully engineered bikes here in the USA? don’t believe it when people tell you that you have to have a $10,000 bike because you’re replacing your car ! how about you get a $4000 bike or less, and use it until you buy another one in 3 or 4 years that you’re going to enjoy with four years newer technology? That’s the American way! LOL
It seems like you guys are always pushing the high-dollar bikes. What about something in the back range and high-quality like "DOST DROP CVT".
Fun fact, and I'm not even kidding: This bike costs more than the most affordable NEW 4-DOOR HATCHBACK CAR sold in Germany. The Dacia Sandero costs the equivalent of 8,700 USD on-the-road, key-in-your hand (i.e. including transfer, transport, documentation, registration).
Wow! That's an interesting car, thanks for the feedback. I see these R&M just like premium cars or motorcycles... it's got great parts, looks awesome, performs well, and comes from a great company. There are lots of places that it doesn't make sense to own a car, and it's a lot healthier for the rider and the community to take an ebike. You save money on licensing, insurance, and fuel, and it's safer and less stressful than driving in traffic if you have access to bike paths :D
If someone is considering this they probably have something way better than a Dacia.
This bike is not too expensive considering that you would pay the same price for a Co-Motion touring bike with Pinion P18 internal transmission and belt drive, and the Co-Motion bike comes with NO motor and NO suspension! Quality bikes are expensive.
@@ElectricBikeReview Ebike 10k, Heart attack priceless. In this light this bike is a super bargain.
how powerful the motor? 250W meh if your gonna pay 10k gimme 1500 watts
It's like buying a luxury sedan with an underpowered 4 cylinder engine. It is a nice bike but overpriced. I can't wait to see the Dost FS bikes.
Beautiful bike but I could get a 300 KTM enduro bike for that money
after 4 yeas pass i dont see any innovation from Riese and Muller? No ideas for the super premium customers paid to grow this company?
To fajny rower ale za te pieniądze wolał bym kupić mustanga
why refer to the gear range in degrees? makes no sense
Nice, but waaaaaaaaaaay too much money. Do people actually pay this? Crazy.
I think so... this is definitely above my budget, but I could imagine if someone had a great job and lived in an expensive condo downtown where it didn't make as much sense to own a car, this could be their "forever" ebike because it's made so well and offers such good comfort and features... including safety with the premium lights.
People pay even more for bicycles with no motor or fancy internal hub.
@Philip Griffin - The price is really not out of line. You’d pay the same price for a high quality Co-Motion touring bike with P18 internal transmission and belt drive, but with NO motor and NO suspension! Quality bikes are expensive.
That’s the price of a motorcycle 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Yeah, this is basically the BMW equivalent in the ebike world. Plus, you don't need licensing, insurance, or gas, and charges are $0.10 for 40+ miles :D
Do you plan on reviewing the Ecells Super Monarch anytime soon?
yes i will be . hope that answers your questions.
Boch mid drive and battery that you can get in a 1 k bike this bike cant justify 10k its beautiful but 10 k is ridiculous
That type of Abuse lock gets broken really easily. E-bike companies need to stop selling them as much. They are trash. You need a heavy U-lock or chain.
Could buy a small town car for the price of that bike