Understanding the New World (Dis)Order, with Stephen Kotkin | GoodFellows
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- As Israel and Ukraine struggle for survival, a newer “axis of ill will”-formed by Russia, China and Iran-sows discord around the globe. Stephen Kotkin, the Hoover Institution’s Kleinheinz Senior Fellow and a vaunted historian, joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson and John Cochrane to assess options abroad and parallels to the past (are we reliving the 1930s, the 1970s, or both?). The trio then dons their speechwriters’ hats to suggest how President Biden can capture the moral high ground. The trio then discusses how President Biden can capture the moral high ground when he makes public statements about the crisis and America’s response to it.
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GoodFellows, a weekly Hoover Institution broadcast, features senior fellows John Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, and H.R. McMaster discussing the social, economic, and geostrategic ramifications of this changed world. They can’t banter over lunch these days, but they continue their spirited conversation online about what comes next, as we look forward to an end to the crisis.
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Stephen's response to Niall's J Peterson comment showed a lot of class
The reason Stephen is so popular is his philosophy not just the history. As well as his empathy with ordinary people like me.
Good luck Stephen, God bless you and all your great supporters. 👍
Townsville Australia 🇦🇺 ♥️
Stephen Kotkin........LEGEND!
He's a real gentleman
Niall Fergusson....bit embarasing
He talked for half the show and didn't say anything at all.
Movie actor... 😢
Kotkin is the best, “ I don’t read The NY Times “
One of many gems from Stephen!
The experience of listening to actual academics (as opposed to the usual political hacks) debate on substantive issues is enlightening. I can't get enough of listening to Stephen Kotkin.
Kotkin eats Ferguson for breakfast, lunch & dinner every day, 365. It's a pleasure to her him, his calm demeanor when poked by politically motivated rhetoric from his colleagues.
Stephen Kotkin is the most important person to listen to to understand the world today. Thank you!
Mr Kotkin thinks on another level and it becomes so obvious that he sees 30 years ahead. We need to listen to him.
Stephen Kotkin presents very clear thesis. That's the magnet of his speeches.
God! I love Stephen Kotkin. He has knowledge, common sense and so much class!
An hour with Mr Kotkin is just not long enough and for my two cents he's incalculably better than Mr Peterson. Can we have more of him please. He should be a regular member.
Kotkin's the man you want in the room when the geopolitical situation is in turmoil..
I get the sense that Kotkin likes to put Ferguson in his place…
A great pleasure to listen to honnorable Stephen Kotkin
Once again, Stephen Kotkin shows himself to be the master of applying common sense to geopolitical analysis.
Kotkin is a very clear thinker and this sets him out from many of his fellows, including the others on the panel here. Partisan thinkers see things as they wish they were. He sees things as they are.
Kotkin!!!! I can listen to him all day long.
Kotkin was fair. He doesn’t hold back from pointing out an administration’s failures regardless of the party in power. Ferguson betrayed his partisan agenda, which is sad.
This would be insufferable without Stephen Kotkin there to provide common sense.
Always a pleasure to hear from Stephen
Niall Ferguson is so ideallogically driven that I can't take anything he says seriously.
Mr. Kotkin is an expert on power , it’s what he’s studied all his life . Listen to what he he has to say
Niall should have let Stephen Kotkin to talk. Stephen's analysis is so profound , but hear constant interruptions from Ferguson was annoying
mr. hoover: kotkin is the person you should be interviewing. next time please leave ferguson off the panel. he added nothing of importance to the discussion.
A great discussion today, always a joy to listen to the insights of Prof. Steven Kotkin!
Thanks to Stephen Kotkin for holding Niall back from making it a party political broadcast.
I wonder how many administrations have tried to recruit Stephen. I hope he says yes one day.
Stephen Kotkin is always a pleasure to listen to, especially in this company. Thanks for this discussion.
Kotkin has some really good points. Sharp analysis and you can tell he has a greater depth and deductive thinking. He has thought about the logic and the facts in light of todays world players. Naill please let everyone else think; your just asking leading questions to support your already predetermined conclusions. Everyone respects Kotin because he explains his points of view with facts. He came with a legal page of receipts. Niall is comes off as a hawk with no receipts.
Kotkin is such a bright light. He puts together such coherent arguments.
Kotkin has a great way of presenting history, great speaker and story teller. And he happens to focus on a very interesting topic, totalitarianism.
Smart, entertaining, and consistently of high quality, what else could you ask for in a podcast?
Best guest, I could listen to a conversation like this for hours
Kotkin is the GOAT in his field
Ferguson's partisan sniping stands in sharp contrast to Kotkin's nonpartisan analysis. It makes Ferguson sound less credible and Kotkin more credible.
Poor Stephen couldn’t even finish a sentence without being interrupted!
Stephen Kotkin ❤
Kotkin isn't as partisan, or as right-leaning as the other Hoover fellows. His non-reaction to comparison with Peterson is also telling. Refreshing.
Thank you for bringing Stephen Kotkin again.
This episode made me respect Kotkin far more and Ferguson far less
Agreed. Ferguson hasn’t been at his best lately. Kotkin always shines though.
From the first time you hear Kotkin, it’s clear that he knows what he’s talking about. Then when his name comes up in your youtube feed… you click immediately. Much like one’s confidence in Hanson or Sowell.
Stephen brings the picture into much better focus. He's the best oracle among the three.
Dr Kotkin is the best hands down. Thank you for having him again.
Here is a story with a moral: My aunt’s two kids were fighting. One was throwing rocks at the other. At this point he was not doing a lot of damage to his brother. My aunt scolded the rock throwing brother, telling him if he want to throw rocks, then throw them at targets and not people. She set up a target which he joyfully used for practice . The next time he got in a fight with his brother, his rock struck him directly in the face injuring him this time. The mother’s attempt at deterrence failed. What is the moral of the story? -. She did not deal with the negative antisocial passions of the rock throwing brother (jealousy, envy, hatred, revenge, etc.)
What America needs is a leader who has the credibility and the balls to stand up and say:
"The whole world order that ultimately underpins the American way of life is under threat, and that America is prepared to do whatever it takes to defend it. That the longer America fails to stand up for it's core values of freedom and democracy, then the stronger the authoritarians will become, and the bigger the sacrifice needed to win the inevitable showdown will be".
I wish this episode had been longer. Always a pleasure to listen to intelligent conversation.
Kotkin just has a voice and cadence I like listening to. He also knows stuff about the other side of the world and when he talks I actually trust he knows what he is saying. Idk if i should trust him, but add that to your intel. Also, he did two great podcasts with lex fridman -- so good i think most of his viewers started from there
Can't wait to hear Stephen on Staline again ! Get volume 3 out !
The views on the Kotkin videos are actually just me
I quite dislike the idea of it but I realize I’m quite the fanboy of Mr. Kotkin.
It is comparatively easy to criticize policy (student loan, e-vehicles, etc.) but this ranting without explanation loses points.
I seem to understand better when Mr. Kotkin speaks. For that I thank him.
I appreciate how Dr. Kotkin handled biased and leading questions with patience, class, and competency👍
Plastic fold up chairs in the middle of an empty room. You could present better than that!
I also wish that they had allowed Dr Kotkin to finish instead of interrupting. Dr Kotkin seems to always start giving context which then leads to a conclusion & we often didn't get to that conclusion.
Not that the input of the others is not valued but to me it was frustrating to listen to. If they need extra time to enable Dr Kotkin to respond in his style they should make the podcast longer.
It’s like listening to Joe Pesci giving commentary on the current situation.
Thank you Mr. Kotkin. Your take is as close to level-minded and thought-out as anyone could hope for.
Love me some Stephen Kotkin analysis
Always an absolute pleasure to watch Steven Kotkin. Great talk all round, very sobering...
Niall must be auditioning for a role in a future GOP administration since everything from him recently is politically biased.
Usually Niall is my favorite Goodfellow, but in the early exchange with Kotkin, Niall acted like a garden variety partisan hack. Luckily he redeemed himself in the second half with his usual brilliance.
Great to hear the thoughts and insights of all three of these gentlemen!
Niall is always consistent in his anti-Biden bias and his overlooking of Trump administration failures. It's rather strange for such an intelligent man
Love this collegial disagreement and conversation.
Mr Kotin's way of explanation and thinking influenced me a lot. Thank you master
Stephen Kotkin da legend
We luv Kotkin! Brilliant man!
I thought someone was breaking in in the background at 4:08. What the heck happened? Did a waiter drop a tray of glasses?
Love these guys... and Kotkin as a guest is always a treat. Long live the JollyGoodFellows. 🙂
The legend strikes again like a true rockstar
The Good Fellows and Stephen Kotkin need merch!
Give me:
A smiling Gen. H.R McMaster shirt with “Eternal optimists love tanks”.
A shirt saying “If you aren’t grumpy you’re doing economics wrong”.
A freedom haggis tshirt.
And most importantly a shirt with Stephen Kotkin face and a quote “Guess what… They’re communists!” Alternative quote “You think I’m funny?”
Why are they interrupting Stephen Kotkin?
Interesting to see Kotkin with some intelligent opposition. He still comes over as the smartest though the others raised some pretty tough alternate takes .
Thank you. That all of you exists.
Niall was really rude this episode, constantly interjecting and making unnecessary remarks. Feel like there is jealousy there with Kotkin
All 3 of them are fascinating! We do not know what we do not know concerning the future - but very very few Americans have any understanding that isolationism does not work and is dangerous. The office of the president needs to educate America yesterday! Follow up talk would be great.
Why was Niall there?
Grateful for this talk thank you all
Brilliant. Loved it. Its so nice to see a civil discussion with different viewpoints.
A discussion of Kotkin and Mearsheimer would be timely and helpful. Who can connect them? Topic: Most likely outcomes of Ukraine/Gaza/Israel/Middle East short-term, by US 2024 election, and on Jan 1, 2026.
I'm now reading "Waiting for Volume 3."
This was very enjoyable. Keep it up.
Excellent discussion. Thank you.
Sometimes Ferguson and Cochrane allow their strong political biases to cloud their thinking. You can't say the same about Kotkin.
19:31 Kothkin did call it back in the interview with Peter Robertson that Putin's plan B was to destroy Ukraine and make it a black hole of reconstruction cost for the EU.
"Have you been to Mar-a-Lago?" 😅 Stephen bodied Niall
It is pretty solid evidence Ferguson doesn't know shame.
He's slinging a narrative that will sell well with Americans who don't like Biden, a valuable market, now way is Ferguson going to let Kotkin, reason, the truth, or intellectual honesty get between him and that paycheck.
That is a weak dig from a coward intellectual. Biden’s house is run by Chinese.
Excellent as always. So refreshing to hear an intelligent and thought provoking conversation.
Niall and Stephen at each other's necks in this one
Niall Ferguson, quite possibly more David Starkey than David Starkey. Each new video or lecture he detaches himself. Moving further and further away from reality.
Kotkin brings intelligence, nuance, and fresh perspectives with his quick wit and love of humanity. ❤
Kotkin is on another level
Jolly good, at least academically! Lets have SK as a 'permanent member' of the good fellows!
Niall was very unprofessional in this discussion
McNamara was the secretary of defense from 1968-1981? Are you sure the caption on his photograph is correct?
Kotkin is insightful and thoughtful. I learn so much from him. The others are just a waste of time. One can only hope they are actually smarter than what comes off as simpleton comments
Would love to see Stephen Kotkin and Orlando Figes in conversation
Niall wishes Hollywood would ask him to provide cameo appearances (wouldn't it be fantastic 😊)
So many excellent points and insights. Thank you for this excellent discussion at a crucial time.
Enjoy the conversation. Neil asked good questions.
Kotkin vs the Goodfellows.
Not even close to a fair fight.
Kotkin 1: Ferguson 0
Finally we have some credible high powered offense!
Stephen is so respectful and extremely knowledgeable. I always listen to him because he's in lightning