GIANT 35 AXIS 8 SPINDLE MultiSwiss CNC Machine
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- CNC Machine Shop Genius | We’re excited to get the Tornos MultiSwiss 8x26. This Swiss machine is the most productive in the world.
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00:00 Tornos MultiSwiss lands at Titans of CNC
00:40 Why 8 Spindles?
01:10 Donnie is a man now
02:09 Moving MASSIVE Machines
03:15 Unveiling the MultiSwiss 8x26
04:39 In-Depth look at the Bar Feeder
06:09 Support Free Education
06:29 Setting Up and Leveling the Machine
09:24 Powering on and Testing the CNC
10:45 Manufacturing to the Next Level
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as a Swiss, I‘m proud my country can produce such machines!
Crazy to think I was in Moutier last week. I should stop by Tornos at some point 👌
Hopp Schwiz. Where in Switzerland?
You can be proud of so many other things about your country too.
As you should! It's a beautiful beast!
As an American, I will say two things:
1) you should ABSOLUTELY be proud of that product, and, 2) I wish MY country would compete again in this arena! We used to be the preeminent manufacturer of machine tools. Those days, sadly, are past.
For an OEM this is one of the most productive machining tools available. I had setup a rotary transfer machine having 12 stations, somewhat similar to the multi-axis spindle machines... We could drop off a fully machined soleplate for steam irons every 4 seconds.. I love you guys are able to show the variety of machining and automation processes...
Ah those things have a massive footprint. Saw some info on those at PMPA in Cleveland a few years ago.
I set those types of machines (Rotary Transfer) on a daylie basis (Riello, Buffoli and Picchi). I recommend everyone to search them up here on youtube.
@@cpumaster8178 Not the best things to look at, (maximum productivity -> minimum cycle time -> easy maching operation) but really amazing the cycle time that you can have on certain workpiece
For large production
I run 8 and 6 spindle tornos at work everyday, they’re amazing machines and some crank out 30+ parts per minute and hold tolerances as low as +/- .005 microns. A great video as always from titans of CNC!
Can I come work with you? 😱
WE are waiting your video!!!
What's the maximum bar length machinable?
“This machine looks awful metric to me.”
Barry is a national treasure! 😂
It is in indeed awful metric sorry guys ! 😅😅🤣🤣
@@tornoschannelLets not tell him that the US is secretly metric too.
@@iizvullok we just do metric better
As usual, you always surprise us with what you bring to this industry. I swear to you, man, I love your work, and I love what you do for us. Your speech at the end of the video ignited the fire of enthusiasm in me again. All respect to you, my mentor Titan BOOM 💥
Im always in awe of people who can understand and run these machines!
I'm good at what I do, but y'all are on a much higher level!!
Now imagine the engineers who designed the machine. That's true brilliance.
If i go show this to the guy in our Tornos area at work (we have 4 GT 32’s) he’d probably cry, and i don’t mean tears of joy. 😭
Really excited to see you guys moving towards Swiss machining. I’ve worked in a primarily Swiss shop for the last 6 years and look forward to furthering my education through Titans of CNC! That MultiSwiss is awesome!
Been watching for a bit now and it seems like even if the sun didn’t come up tomorrow Titan would still have a new machine coming in. Great to see the shop expanding and bringing more amazing machining here to North Texas!
congrats, another level. You guys surprise me every day. Brendon AK was already a big eye opener. love you both. keep it on....
Awesome stuff as always! I am excited for you guys in what this year has to bring the titan family! Great stuff! BOOM
This stuff is addicting to watch! I took a CAD class at ivy tech in the early 2000s, and worked as a maintenance man at caterpillar engine plant in Lafayette IN. They had HUGE machines that would mill raw locomotive engines in the plant then assemble them. Those machines cranked out some huge chips, and a LOT of material! I had to dump the hoppers 😆. I wish I could’ve finished my degree😔. Thanks obama🤷♂️🤦🏼♂️
My grandpa ran 6 spindle screw machines for decades, I wish he was still alive to see this. 👍
I am so happy that you guys are doing Swiss. It couldn't have come at a better time in my career. Way to go Donnie! You guys rock!
This is a huge step up from the Acme Gridly mechanical machines that we used to run!!
We used to have some of those. They have been replaced with Tornos AS14, Gildemeister GM20 and ZPS Euroturn 32 machines. I heard those big acmes struggled to hold tight tolerances.
I’m around 14 of them every day
I saw the group at IMTS checking out the 6 spindle version with a lot of interest. Cool to see them acquire the bigger brother just months later!
I believe this was the machine that was featured in Brandon Herrera's AK-50 update video. I love it when my favorite CZcamsrs collaborate to make something not only entertaining but educational and inspirational! Thank you for that.
It was the one yes
Amazing… my buddy has a modern Swiss. Citizen. We knocked out 500 fairly complex tight tolerance parts in a few hours. Imagine 8x that. Insane. Thanks for sharing the knowledge. 😊
I did the 5 day programming course at Citizen Bushey UK.
It was an eye opener.
Definitely like these longer format videos. Congratulations Donnie 🎉
We have 2 of these on our floor! We are not an OEM but use them for mid to high production parts for our customers. We have developed processes that help us change over fairly quickly from 1 part to the next. Really great machines.
I worked in machine shop for a bit the air was so thick with oil you couldn't see to the end of the hall. I'm glad I don't have to breath that in anymore but this place looks nice.
Tornos and the power of chip slinging! Such huge pieces going into future, it is fast really fast approaching! There isn't a chance of doubt, there isn't a chance of setbacks, great chance of improvements! wish i could be closer to this monsters and team.
What an amazing machine.I am truly humbled by it's capabilities!
08:15 - 08:24 that's our boy!! We are so proud that one our electrostatic oil mist collectors has ben shipped to you guys!! I hope it will serve you well.
Every single state needs your shops with the same technology and education to teach the younger generation. This is what our government should be investing in.
Speechless and humbled.
The concept of sharing and assistance to all is the best way to go.
Regards, shelleng.
Been running a couple 8x26 MultiSwiss for 3 years. You can't beat the productivity! 200-300+ parts/hour and with the bundle loader you don't have to load material for days, it just chews thru material like crazy. Although I do wish they hadn't gone completely touchscreen with the control panel on the newer versions.
Thank you!
I thought I was a player with 9 axis, 2 spindles, and 3 programs running.
You got my attention!
Looking forward to the rest of this series!!!
it’s not a 38 axis machine though lol unless every tool in that machine can touch each spindle.
@@kw2519it has 38 different moving sections that require programming so it’s definitely 38 axis lol
@@dakotareid1566 I think they changed the title lol it says 35 now.
It can only cut 8 parts at once it can’t move in 35 different orientations per part.
So it’s more like eight machines with 4axis and then the last one is the spindle part z feed.
If it were one part in the middle with all those turrets around it, ya it’d be a 35 axis.
@@kw2519 8 spindles that rotate so that 9 axis of movement, 8 tools around the spindle that also rotate so that’s another 9, that’s 18, then I’d assume the rest are on the opposing spindle, pretty easy to get to 35 axis.
Axis refers to the number of individual movements. If you took a 5 axis and added another rotating bed and spindle it’d now be a 10 axis
@@dakotareid1566 which would be two 5axis machine’s together
But also, by that logic, you can count the number of spaces on the turret as axis’s
LOL, this technology is on another level. Our Swiss machines had a centrifuge aka "Turbo Separator" back in 1997
Ohh man Titans at it again! Never cease to amaze me. And congrats to Donnie the mad scientist! I remember the first time I saw Donnie before Titans he was writing out a macro variable on a dry erase board.. I was thoroughly impressed 👍. Great addition to imo one of the greatest shops to have the opportunity to have access to! Big ups to Titan and the crew to bringing a vision to fruition! One day.......
Oh really? What company were we at? I’ve had to do that quite a few times 😂
Not sure the company.. but the setting was in an office and i believe it was a chalk board. Pretty incredible to me. and the mad scientist is a compliment bud! "Results based approach towards achievement!" Keep on pushing the boundaries of limitations and help bring back the manufacturing jobs to the USA!
We had many of the mechanical "Wickman" multi-spindle (non CNC) versions of this where I did my apprenticeship at an automotive brake parts manufacturer in Australia. (Gone now)
Didn't Tornos make a MultiDeco like 20 years ago??? I run and setup ancient 6 spindle Tornos AS14 cam operated screw automatics. They have come a long way from the old ones for sure. Currently we run 2-3 second cycle times and holding pretty tight tolerances with shave tools. The pick offs are always a weak spot. We also have 32mm capacity ZPS 6 spindles as well. I specialize in multispindle but I can also setup/run CNC lathes (Fanuc only) . Love yalls content.
This is a dream come true for any machinist. You have reached the end game my friend.
I would love to learn how to do cnc!!! After the mines laid everyone off it left a bunch of us out of work! This would be a great thing to learn because this work isn’t going away!!
I live in Germany and I work as a cutting machine operator. I would say it really is incredible
I love the unwritten ritual of new equipment, it is like Christmas but better
I'd love to see allll the videos about this beast! Currently operating a citizen L-32 swiss lathe and this machine seems way more complex. Can you eventually do a maintenance/cost of ownership video about it or other tornos lathe? I'm trying to get my boss to buy one lol BOOOM
That is absolutely incredible! I bet it would be bad ass just to be the janitor for Titan, let alone an operator!
That thing is like a space ship, its freakin beautiful!
I'm not sure if he's made it in any videos, but Titan has his father-in-law, Orlando keep this place spotless! He's a great addition to our team!
I setup and ran Index Multispindles from 09-21. I love this type of machine.
That's insane and loved it ! Thank you guys !
Обожаю этих уверенных в себе профессионалов.
One of my customer in india bought same model recently. Saw it live last week it's really a game changer machine. costed in india approx USD $1220000
In US dollars?
sir india is game changer sir
@@MF175mp Yes
Thanks for doing these vids and for everything y'all ḍo to enrich the world! 🙂
I was setting the old school 6 spindles from wickman over 25 years ago the wickman multi spindle autos bar fed but they was cam driven best machines
💥 they didn't have those the last time I was in Moutier Switzerland. It's about time Tornos has had the technology for decades and now it's reality.
How good are the engineers that design and create that machine.
Best of the best
Reminds me of the old Acme Gridley screw machines. No form tools, but looks like the same principle.
I think Titan's crew might be addicted to New Machine Day at this point😂😂
Who isn't 😂
@@SaidBKD95 Good point😂. I'm just jealous lol
@@josephcampise9950 i am too, i always got exited for new machines in the shop all tho they were made in the 1980s 🤣
We had similar machines like these from Icon with multiple spindles and pallets and pallet changers. They were wild but the spindles went out constantly.
Awesome machine. Thanks for sharing🇺🇸❤️
It's like Christmas seeing sophisticated machines fire up for the first time.
I think i saw this machine on a expo in Bern in Switzerland, its really crazy
I’m proud to be Swiss when i see what machine we can create
And what is your contribution for it 🤔😳
@@heinzkoenig8831 i work on this machine
You guys are amazing, fantastic machines
Nice nice but I've seen a 40 year old 6 spindle automatic lathe and that's a work of art. Basically no elecronicals, all motion is purely mechanical. And the best part, it's still being used to this day.
Titan,
Thank you so much for all you share. It's inspiring, motivating.
A lot of "new machine day", it's incredible.
I dream of acquiring a CNC tool grinder for my business (A Helitronic would be a good candidate), however I often redo all the calculations (machine, consumables, raw material, grinding wheel, additional tools, air, lubrication, licenses, ...) compared to the price of tools generally observed (even for high-end or custom-made tools) and that I have been in this business for 15 years now, the return on investment is "impossible" or the number of years to make it profitable is so important that no bank is ready to lend money.
I must certainly miss important elements ;-)
As you are at the heart of this industry, would it be possible to address the subject of the return on investment of these machines (mill, turn and grinder), with taking into account all costs ("hidden" cost too) in your academy ?
Thank you.
Boom !
That is really innovative to filter that coolant to that extent. Watching this makes me miss working with metal.
A man with an incredible vision, Thanks for inspiring me! Sir!
This is the second craziest machine Iv ever seen can’t wait for some cutting time😂
Cannot wait to see what madness this machine makes
So, it's just an old school B&S screw machine, but with cnc added. Cool stuff. It's probable much easier to set up than those old screw machines as they all used cam lobes, springs, and hard stops for everything.
Looks like Barry needs a conversion chart to operate this metric-heavy beauty! 😂
Was looking forward to seeing this after you showed it to Brandon Herrera and you didn't disappoint.
Awesome, looks like it came straight out of the first Dune movie.
I've set-up and ran 6 and 8 spindle acmes for over 10 yrs also have set up and ran cnc lathes for 5 and have to say i would pick an acme hands down over a cnc but this thing is an acme killer!
Do yall use the imperial or the metric system on the blueprints?
Man u living the dream of success . wish u and ur family the best .
"Donnie is in the House"... by Titan. Man, this tecnology is blowing my mind.
I’m so envious I retired a few years ago and am missing out on so much techno fun in machining.
It looks like a New Britain Gridley and Chucker. It's been around for over a century. Making it CNC is something I am surprised wasn't popular sooner.
It was around look up Tornos MultiDeco
woahhh thats really show us how different level you guys are !!!
I never even knew something like this existed
@@elanjacobs1 my first workplace had 4 ancient ones, they made shapes based on a follower running over a specific shape machined into a plate
The most complex one had 20 stations, each doing just a single cut
Just watched your collaboration with Brandon. That was clean work.
You are awesome Titan... Greetings from Armenia!
Ridiculous. What an amazing machine, congrats
Well this was a good advertisement. When you think of these machines, you think of Index. Never knew Tornos even made one of these
That’s an apex manufacturing machine right there. Looking forward to seeing the capabilities of that thing
Im jealous…. My dream machine right there!
You guys should try a multi spindle machine from Schütte, like the SCX or ACX type
I have been a fan of Donnie since he has been on Linked In!
That's friggin awesome. I just have a stupid OCD pet peeve trigger about people calling things "new technology" or similar...when it isn't. It's the same technology that other CNC machines use, it's just more of it.
Titans family Grown day by day "Boom"
"Tornos" (τόρνος) is Greek for "lathe". (Same IE root that gives us words like "turn"). Quite the understatement :)
Congratulation b❤️❤️m new cnc35x very very big cnc good love working
I am a swiss cnc millturn machinist and programmer. So swiss machining is basically really small parts? We call it decoltagé here in swissy.
Love your contet.
Even NASA is a bit jealous rightnow ☆☆☆☆☆ EPIC machine
Grtz from the netherlands
Johny geerts
mind blowing this machinery
Man I can’t wait to see that thing making some chips
You guys have crazy revenue from your enquires to buy new machine every 2-4 months. It is crazy... Looking how our company in Poland works we are able to afford one per 2-4 years.. I'm so jealous...
Man I get the feeling Donnie is excited
Absolutely mind blowing 🤯❤
HOOO DUDE THAT´S SO AMAZING I WAN´T A JOB LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS I LOVE SEE A GREATEST IMPROVEMENT LIKE THIS, GO AHEAD ALWAYS!!
I can only imagine how many AK-50s you could make with that monster
I thought the Mazak was a badass machine but this tops it. Just because how many spindle their is.
Have been runing the Tornos mulideco for years and, we stepped Upp to Index ms40 Machine. Runing parts in 4.4 sec. When we testede itt IT did not move more than 0.01mm on 200000 parts. Runing in brass. 😁
Doug got some new tattoos. 💪
Can you guys make a video of the way you go about quoting a job?
I set-up and ran multispindle machines. I can only dream of CNC control on it.
It's crazy to meet other people online that do it too, I think its rare. We have Tornos AS14, SAS16, Gildemeister GM20, ZPS Euroturn 32. We're in San Antonio Tx
@@resistorstudios New Brittain Gridleys and Davenport screw machines.
Good job end well-done team work 👍👍🇮🇳
Crazy machine!!! Titan!!!!