How bad is this $5000 PC from 10 years ago?
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10 years ago, spending $5,000 on a PC brought you a pretty incredible experience.... but how has the last 10 years treated this EXTREME setup?
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Why don't the water bottles say "Linus Tech Sips"?
I'm available for hire.
If you dont Get hired... idk what logic is...
underrated
@@lightcrowd42040 a rapper?
For a reason, it seems.
Linus Sip Tips
"How bad is this $5000 PC from 10 years ago?"
Me: using a $800 PC from 10 years ago
Mine is from fall 2009, so almost 10 years old and was a 600€ retailer setup (so most likely not well optimized). Over the years I added more ram (from a different manufacturer) to 8gb total, a better graphics card (GTX 970), a better cpu cooler two ssd and a quite power supply. CPU and motherboard stayed the same (that's the parts Linus is testing).
So my system clearly is worse than what Linus is testing. I still can play Overwatch on ultra with 60+ fps in 1080p while watching youtube in 720p on the other screen. I don't play graphics heavy games, I don't do video editing, and I don't care about 4k videos with my 1080p screens, but I'm actually not surprised at all, that a $5000 CPU+motherboard from the same time, gets a decent performance with the parts he added.
My cpu is an Intel core i5-750.
When the described using photoshop as basically unusable... that is better than most normal employees would get unless you work at a company that specializes in Photoshop
@@meni2410 ok
Im running a 2009 i3 550 stock @3.20ghz 4mb, 8gb ddr2 ram, AMD r9 200 series gpu , acpi x64 board, and a 5400rpm 1TB HDD. Added a new power supply after i decided on a gpu (850 w overkill for upgrades that never happened cuz the tower is ass).
@@LtksK i love when you said your cpu in the end lol
When you realize your pc is worse than a 10 year old pc.
A 10-year-old $5,000 PC, don't forget
Actually it's closer to 13 years old now. But yeah, it about as fast as my Asus G74Sx-bbk7 from nearly 10 years ago except that it draws more power and crashes more often as opposed to my laptop which can run Photoshop 2021 without any hiccups.
And this laptop cost $1200 back in 2011. Probably worth only $150 nowadays...
I'm curious how much this $5000 desktop degraded down to in 2021.
@@DavidAllen_0 i am running a asus G75vw with nvidia 670 and core I7. apparently still worth a little bit of money. you might be surprised .
i can tell you its very sad😥😥
:(
Tech is so wild, 5k from 10 years ago is considered super old. Love these videos
Not to mention if you're a gamer most of that 5k was wasted anyway. Better off using the money to upgrade your video card every couple of years.
@@brettguyer3736 true 100%
Thought it was just him exaggerating lol
Man, that is some incredibly good looking 4K footage. For real.
JerryRigEverything you should put some level 7 deeper grooves into that monitor
Almost as good looking as that one CZcamsr's fiance 😉
@@botesz20 he doesn't want to ruin the image
Still never understand why you don't do a drop test
Dude i watch both of you guys with my gf... Now she wants a gaming pc and is looking at my p30 pro weirdly and asking me if i want a clear version
Whenever i realize that 2010 is 10 years ago i get really sad.
Whenever I realize that 2050 is closer than 1990 I get realy sad
@@bm952 Holy shit delete this comment
@@bm952 oh... This is is sad
@@scharrk I would want to clean my eyeballs to unsee that sad fact
firebeastfly oh no.... :(
"This is one spectacular crash"
Literally every crash I've ever experienced. If I manage to close the app without restarting my computer it's mild
So, this basically proves that a good system is essentially futureproofed and can last at least a couple console generations. I mean not a lot of people are going to run their computers at 4K due to the amount of memory and bandwith that would use. 1080 would would be sufficient for this system.
we are matrixed by marketing
“This computer is from 2008”
Oh that’s not old that’s 3 years ago
Your comment is three days old
KEKWait
Yeah bro I just blinked my eyes and it’s 2020? Wow time flies
r/woosh
@@zombieslayer1468 Wut
Titan RTX: Hey what's up?
10 year old motherboard: AHHHHAHAHHAAHHAHHHHHHH WTF ARRREEEE YYOOOOUUUU
From de FUUTAH
"So this is a 10 year old computer!! Wooww!!"
One moment later: "So I'm gonna plug in this Titan X"
lmao
Ugh ur such a wireless charger
Sometimes you don't know what it is about a comment that's so fucking funny and makes you laugh out loud. This is one of those comments.
I like how excited he is about "modern" Win 10 being responsive on that aged monster. Plug in an SSD and it will run smoothly on almost any machine thats still alive. I run a phenom II X4 945 (from 2009) myself which was low budget at that time without any problems. And even gaming ist still good to okay (depending on the game) with a GTX 960 (2015). Not 4k of course (You don't throw 4k at 1080-Ladies, Linus!), but the era of throwing away your whole computer every two years are over.
I managed to recently spruce up the same motherboard you mentioned. A new PSU and SSD and cleaned up the fans and dusty areas. Just needed some new thermal paste and I am hoping to keeping it for a bit longer. As for the WIN-10 installation, I preferably stopped some programmes running in the background and turned off some window's features so it can run smoothly as it could.
I'd love to see what Linus could do with the 2004 Dell server workstation I used regularly up until maybe a year or so ago.
"10 year old"
Me:Oh damn a PC from 1995?
It's actually 2008....
you're probs living in 2005 if you thought it was from 1995
@@iexistwithoutmyconsent3755 Good year to live in. Peak of the pop-punk scene.
@@Alexrider02 Also peak of the American anime licensing boom before the decline really started.
So you're probably like near 40 years old at least
@@Alexrider02 but it was before the smartphone, at least the good kind
**10 years later**
*how bad is i9 9900K with RTX 2080 Ti?*
iFollowYou1337 u mean Xe or R9 3900
i have and i7 8700 rtx 2070 and i am scared it will be bad in 10 years..
@@oc3026 the cpu will hold up for 8 years I think, the gpu tho..
@@mi-vanyan9092 GPU's progress rapidly slowed down though, last big jump in performance was in 2016 and since then $ doesn't really buy more performance than in 2016. For example I bought 1060 3 Gb in 2017 for $199. Now if we believe that gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-6GB-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB/4034vs3646 in the right ballpark, then 2060 being 62% faster should cost ~$322. It's actual cost is about $340 - so pretty much no change in price/performance over the last 3 years. If this trend continues GPU's might live just as long as CPU's
@@artemaung5274 Well I would at least compare it with a 1060 6GB ^^
It’s kind of funny that Linus is making a big deal out of this board selling for $650 and now we’re well on our way to that being the new reality for a lot of “gaming” focused motherboards.
I know Asus and MSI currently have a few gaming/enthusiast AM5 and Raptor Lake boards that are priced at $800-$1,200.
yeah fr i was looking for a new motherboard to upgrade my cpu and i saw some that were 700 bucks its insane.
how are these "gaming" focused motherboards any better from normal MB? Or are they just gimmick?
@@syl_ouette You get what you pay for, unless it's an ASUS board.
"Gaming" as a prefix now just adds over 500% the regular price to anything huh
@@Jenna_Talia there actually are somewhat reasonable justifications in some cases. But it’s not because the boards are necessarily better for gaming. Ultra robust power delivery is basically solely for extreme overclocking. If you’re running your CPU at stock speeds, stock voltage, etc, it really doesn’t impact you at all. Lower to mid tier chipsets are plenty capable of moderate overclocking. Running precision boost overdrive and a memory overclock for example is perfectly doable without any of those insanely priced upper tier boards. For the vast, vast majority of people, gamers included, would never have any reason to buy something like the MSI Godlike or the Asus X670E Crosshair Extreme, which is a $1,000 motherboard. Those are for hardcore overclocking enthusiasts.
However, spending more money on a motherboard can make sense if you want a lot of high bandwidth NVMe slots. Lower and mid tier boards come with fewer of them, especially when it comes to slots which support PCIe Gen 4 or Gen 5 speeds. I’ve been using nothing but NVMe storage for a few years now so that’s my primary consideration when shopping for a motherboard.
I just finished building my AM5 system and went with the Asus B650E-E. The power delivery is more than good enough for my needs and despite it being a B-series board, which used to be quite barebones, lacking a lot of higher end features, B-series boards are getting a lot better. This one came equipped with 4 NVMe slots, two Gen 4 slots and 2 Gen 5 slots. I’m currently running two 2TB drives and can easily add two more later if needed. To me, that’s worth paying a higher price. My current B-series board has better NVMe support than my previous X570 board and cost me about the same amount of money - around $300.
Not going to lie, when he said "let's try something more fair" first thing that popped into my head was Crysis...
forget the RTX, get two 8800GTXs, windows XP, overclock THE HELL OUT OF IT and RUN CRYSIS
4 8800GTXs. Or GTX285s.
god yes please
Haha I remember those days!
@ChrisHallett83 768 ;)
8800 Ultra
there's no LEDs so overall performance is 20% less.
iceveiled damn bro you got the whole internet laughing 😐😑😐
Tjarco Distel go play fortnite
Tjarco Distel If you don't play fortnite then what is that crap you posted?
big man exactly
Oh, wow, look an LED joke. They're almost as old as the computer Linus is building.
I sad this is literally better than my cpu and motherboard :')
I have a dell optiplex 7010. With a gtx 980 4 gb. 14 gb ram. 500w power suply. An intel i5. 34 sumthn sumthn. lol
@@ItsKevin06 cool but no one asked
@@spyren3672 I'm saying. I have an old system that's not so good. I was kind of relating to his comment
@@ItsKevin06 your system is quite good in my opinion
@@averyoldCZcamsuser oh really ? Its pretty much a 99 dollar computer with 300 dollars in upgrades. I didn’t think it was very good. Im just wanting a pc to run warzone at ok settings
Seems to be doing a lot better than my laptop from that same year i use sometimes for older games, love that old reliable, slow for most stuff but functions for what it needs to be doing.
"Theres just something about dual socket that gets my inner geek going" .... yeah, that hidden, secret inner geek, Linus.
🤣🤣🤣
i used to have a few dual socket (intel X5050 processor with 64GB FBDIMM ram) as a workstation
was about 8 years ago or so and did cost me a fortune in parts
some supermicro motherboard X7DBE+. old times. still have some of theses pc here but gathering dust
@@patricklegault6383 OK no offense but this has nothing to do with the comment and no one asked
Same with SLI
@ @@edwardrobinson502 Sncd”$
I have a PC from 10 years ago that was only $700 at the time, only upgraded the GPU once in 2016, and it still plays modern games and everything else I need it to do. Really the parts manufacturers deserve a shoutout. Even the original fans are still in there and working. And I've turned it off like twice in all that time.
Jesus, that poor PC.😂
Turned it off twice? As in, that poor guy has been pumping iron for a decade straight?
upgrade that gpu again dude
That is how computers are meant to be used. Always on, its the off and on again stuff that breaks them, lol.
i bought a dell xps8900 in 2016 and put a 1660 in it. still use it 24/7. i dont really play AAA titles but im sure it could run a lot of stuff on med graphics
It's fascinating to witness the transformation this channel has experienced over time. Fast forward to 2023, the improvements in the flow of things are remarkable, and I'm relieved you've moved past the old style of producing videos. Your overall approach to creating content in 2023 has significantly gotten better. Looking back at the older LTT content, it's a humbling reminder of how far you've come and how much you've grown.
you being upset about that computer not running photoshop smooth is like making fun of your granpa for losing a marathon.
Back in his day he was running ms paint at 60 fps.
yeah if he were running CS4 rather than the latest CC version (which also uses up CPU cycles for cloud authorization) it might be different. I mean like photoshop 1 ran on a 25mhz macintosh in 1995 because that's the sort of thing that was around
@@0v_x0 cloud authorization?
Ps cc run smoothly on my pentium e5700 : )
@@0v_x0 what? What is cloud authorization?
2020:
2090: "How bad is a setup with a TITAN RTX and an Intel Xeon?"
@Vayne Carudas Solidor wow, create a movie or something
Vayne Carudas Solidor honestly the computer in our skulls are far more impressive than pretty much every computer save for some
Vayne Carudas Solidor I know just making an observation
@@boygenius538_8 shitty observation since it's common sense
Freezy Pop stfu
A full screen exclusive app will softlock the whole computer as you can’t even get to the sign out or power button or use any shortcuts.
This pc performs way better than my cousin's laptop that has intel core i5 gen 10 also his laptop costs 1500$
of course :)...my 10 year old tower is better than my new one, lmao
ah yeah, notebooks are so limited that I wonder why people that don't actually need to save space nor platform mobility get them
@@ezecskornfan mobility and money saving bro. I just ordered one and its waaaay better than my old gaming pc and therefore enough for me.
@@Jack-yd7ci but notebooks are worse and more expensive than actual PCs with the same specs, what money are you saving?
That moment when you realize 2011 was 10 years ago
El mawdoo3 yeza3al yasta
This was made in 2019, idk if it a joke so woosh me if you want
Shut up okay!
when i realize i graduated 21 years ago
@has lol
Linus: year 2008 hardware is super old
Me: watching this on my 2008 pc
f
Me too, although it's been upgraded a bit since I first built it in 2008. In 2013 I scored a new in box QX9650 for $75, which was the model below the 9770 Linus is using here. I've been wanting to build a new one for years now.
@@Jasontheguitarist87I still remember my AMD II x4 cpu with 4 radiators connected together with GPU to keep it cooled below 100C to work with BF3
Haha, watching it on my Dell t7400! Having 2 xeon x5450's and 32gbs of ram so still decent in performance tho! Running a gtx980 and w10 so pretty modern in relative terms... So to speak!
I'm on a Dell precision workstation with a W3520. Upgraded it with a 500gb S-ATA SSD, 12gb of ram and a 1060.
I have 12 brand new sticks of that exact RAM!! It has a HP label on them. Thank you for the information on those!!!
Woud love to see more "How does this 5K top of the line machine fare X years later" type videos.
Next on LTT: *Lock Anthony in a room and force him to use a $5,000 Dekstop from 2008 as a daily driver for a month*
As long as he doesn't drop it, I'm fine with that.
He'd just get linux on it
Anthony would make the most out of it no doubt about it
That is fine as a daily driver. It sucks for a content creator, but most games and common applications still run fine on a Core 2 Quad so they should be fine on this system.
Im booking a day off for that. Long live Anthony!
"What year is this board from?"
*Pulls out snarky door hanger à la slogan tees and it says 'Newbs beware, you will be pwned'
"Ah, 2008."
I dunno, that lingo sounds to me like it comes from 2000.
@@roadent217 it's from late 2000s, I was there
@@roadent217 nah. Definitely heard than in late 2000's
@Soller lmao
@Soller Purepwnage was the first thing to start joking about online 1337 gAmErS and that was in 2004. So it's definitely been seen as cringe since then.
Im still using pentium 4 from 21 years ago in 2021. In 3 world country its really common thing to use refurbished computer from all over the world. Not only pc, we also use and buy used clothes, shoes etc. If the pc still running.. we use it until it stop working. If its died, then we took it to the electrician to swap the broken part from another broken part until its really unfixable. Then the remaining part will be use as a sparepart like chipset. Fan. Capacitor. Etc.
I remember the weird short-lived era of multi-cpu motherboards. My dad had a "high end" computer that had 2 pentium 4 chips in it lol.
No Cinebench R15, or any CPU benchmark...
What were you guys thinking?
Exactly! I was expecting all that on this video, /dissapointed
I’m not sure these chips could handle anything more than the light web usage they did
Here is some dual QX9775 Cinebench R15 scores. Most of them are from HWBot.
Stock 3.2GHz: about 680+
3.790GHz: 776cb
3.916GHz: 807cb
4.189GHz: 861cb (Overl0rd)
4.266GHz: 888cb
4.410GHz: 899cb
For comparison an AMD FX-8350 (8c 4.0GHz, 4.2GHz turbo) from late 2012 would get about 660cb at stock
@@Pasi123 amd so shit Haha
Damn i want that board. Do like dual watercooling loops and oc to the max attempt to use 8gb fbdimms.
10 years ago was 2009 I feel depressed and old now
When someone tells me "10 years ago" i still think of 1999....THAT makes me depressed.
That's when mac Miller became famous... oof now I feel old
@@Scitch87 1999 was 20 years ago :(
toy story is almost 24 years old
"About 10 years ago" wow! Like the beginning of modern computers! "In 2008" wait hol up what. Oh shoot.
Yeah everything is starting to make me feel ancient now. I'm the only person among my colleagues who used a phone before the iPhone came out in 2007.
5:17 Look at that board flex when he puts the ram in!
16:25 Dude...YES. This has been one of my biggest annoyances with windows for years. Just let me end a task!
when a 10 year old pc is faster than my current pc
It's because the pc is really cool
To be fair, he's using a 2016 Titan X, which is equivalent to a 980 Ti.
The only thing that's "old" is the motherboard, ram and cpu..'s
Same :(
@@khazms still the cpu's can outperform an i7 8565U or i7 8gen.
don't complain about yours, I have a Celeron e3400
10 Year old PC
Me: Interesting, a PC from the 90s
Linus: Actually 2008
Me: shit iam old now am i ?
Stolen comment
I refuse to believe someone could be this bad at math or blind
I was thinking about that.
@@user-yz4ck8hn2m I refuse to believe someone can be this all-round dumb
My family was gifted one of these from a friend that works on concert light shows n stuff. We had no idea how much it cost to put together.
Took it to Best Buy a few times and always caused geek squad to gather around to… geek out
lol, it's a very decently performing platform! I'm still casually using its little brother (DX48BT2+QX9770) as a W7 media center and light gaming rig on a TV. It might even be "slightly" faster than this monster, even with only 4 cores, since it has the same 1600MHz FSB but also DDR3-1600 DC and single x16 PCIe 2.0 (or dual x8) without the added nVidia PCIe 1.1 bridging.
this is literally better than any pc I’ve ever had in my entire life
@@pablitocodes gtfo
The Quality Dev did I ask for your shitty crypto mining tutorials?
@@Veeooom He's just trying to help your broke ass.
Yup. I have a old laptop and a old desktop the same age as those but they are pretty poor performing.
Broke boi
WAIT A MINUTE. If you forgot to plug the chipset fan back in, then you need to re-run all the tests.
Linus Failed Tips
For part 2 I want that chipset fan on!!!
@16:32 you should've installed Super F4 :) by pressing Ctrl+F4, it will close the game without having to open Task Manager. Very handy program for these types of situations
That exact same board I watched my friend crack the board after he put the memory on just as Linus did. Dark flashbacks watching the box flex as he pressed down
Overl0rd from the Forum here! Thanks for the shout out at the beginning Linus :D Skulltrail is a truly fantastic no-expenses-spared platform. IMO one of the last times Intel really showed they cared about the enthusiasts. and I’m happy to see it’s getting some attention again. For those looking for more information and testing on Skulltrail, over the last year I’ve made a ton of in-depth content on my channel including gaming and overclocking.
A couple of points I would like to point out
-While the QX9775 CPUs are the most awesome way to go on this platform. It will work just fine with regular 771 Xeons and back then a TON of people went that route. The board will also work just fine with a single CPU. Especially the CPUs with a 1333MHz FSB have great OC headroom (as 5400 chipset runs out at around 430MHz bus speed) and could potentially reach beyond 4GHz. Overclocking the QX9775s is rather straightforward, mine do 4GHz at 1.41V. Just make sure to have proper cooling on not just the CPUs, but also active cooling on the north bridge and the FBDIMMs; those will get up to around 90C.
-Despite the fact that the drivers of the Nforce 100 chips are troublesome in Windows 10, SLI should work fine using PCIe 2 and 4 (I have tested this personally). The problems are less under Windows 7, but still present.
-16GB of RAM is definitely supported out of box. I personally run 4x4GB 667MHz overclocked to 800MHz. To do this you do have to have the latest BIOS version, as more memory config options were only added later on.
I KNEW YOU WOULD BE HERE
DellChannel21 wow
DellChannel21 did you copy that
The duck Master No, he’s just obsessed with Skulltrail. He owns multiple
The video isn't even finished yet you didn't even see the full video
Most surprising thing about the video: 2008 was 10 years ago
it's 2020, so its 12 years.
Thanks obama
... all for the low price of.. $ 5 Grand. ... Spend that donaro today both as a pre-built and a parts only (DIY) one... Could hardwire a whole house (saving the family from the 5G microwaving going on outside) AND get a decent gaming system. IMHO.
i7 was released 11 years ago and Nehalem Xeon 2P was released 10.5 years ago.
¡¡Linus nos está engañando!!
11 years
4K youtube doing pretty well...
is actually gpu decoded
4k CZcams with a DX10 or Radeon 5000/6000 series graphics card and then you'll see how it does.
@@EweToobUsername radeon 5000/6000 series are dx11 cards. for dx10 you have to drop to radeon 4000 series
Its optional, you can turn it off in settings. My PC from 2011 = 4k with hardware acceleration 1% cpu usage, without it 40% usage.
i have an i5-2500 and 750ti, Hardware acceleration = enabled BUT 4k youtube gets about 50-60% cpu usage, and 4k60 youtube causes CPU buffering!
Yeah, thats true. But to be true if you place there something like 1050, cheap mainstream card it will still work great. There is no question about 2008 hardware to run 4k, but 2008 hardware supports stuff so you can use all new things with it and it just Works!. Like good USB PCIe card plus GPU like 1050 and to be truth it will work as a charm with modern SSD and mainstream games.
In my opinion this is good argument for people without money for PC. Buy old platform with good Core2Quad CPU. But used GPU like 960 or 970 to this PC and USB PCIe Card and you have PC that runs 90% of games. And I'm sure that AAA titles with 720p resolution and setting and Low/Medium will go easly above Console 30FPS minimum.
5:26 as he's putting the ram in, watch that board bend!
this is fucking fascinating, it's very, very cool to hear you talk about computer history, and I very readily want to hear more
He's speaking like 2008 was the 70's
In the tech world it kinda is
@@MikeJohnson-qy4wq yea. Its crazy how much things have changed
In tech it might as well been 300 years ago.
@@JayBigDadyCy yea...people be like what's a 3090,we got a rtxxxx70000
The experience is comparable to driving a '70's car: Still usable everyday but the difference between it and new is very noticable.
"Let's see how this 2008 pc runs under a modern workload"
> installs a titan x
> uses 10gig internet
"Wow this isn't half bad"
Budgie Bird and an SSD lol
Pls. He didn't even install Intel Optane in the PCIe.
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this is why i have a 2500k that plays gta5 at 60fps with mild settings tweaks
My question is how were they able to edit HD video a decade ago if this was cutting edge for the time?
16: 39 exactly! this is something that’s always baffled me, if you click the close button five times it should just end task just like in task manager without having to get task manager up if it’s not possible to.
Love your work! Keep it up! Thx 😊
You never asked the question that mattered when this board was made. CAN IT RUN CRYSIS?
THIS
That question has been replaced by: Can it Ray Trace Minecradt?
@@thatrealba can it race trace roblox
_How was this missed!_
And what about the quintessential "Can it run Doom?" Asking it using a dual Xeon of that era equipped with 32GB of FB-DIMM (eight slots helps a bit)
8 Gamers, One System: 10 Year Anniversary Edition!!!
1 core per person?
All you're going to play is Diablo 1
@@lennonrichards Linus said that games from that era tend to only use one core
They need to share the keyboard n mouse just when you was little and played with a friend ^^
Linus Sebastian left the chat .
I always smirked at the performance of my early cheese-grater MacPro some 8, 10 years on that could still keep up. You had to get over the SATA problems, but with SSDs, slightly newer CPUs, and a full rack of (then cheap) RAM, it had a long life of decent performance. It was also a dual processor rig, Xeon of course. I threw way more than 8GB, I think 16 or 32 GB in it.
You could totally use this still I bet it works fine with windows 10 I have LGA775 w/8GB ram setup as a server & even plays games on low with 8 SATA ports perfect for backup & steaming
Photoshop: hesitates slightly
Linus: "that's unusable!"
Meanwhile my dad: "this beauty of an Acer still runs like she did when I bought her for $400 at Walmart in 2006!"
I have learnt to accept that I'll probably always be too poor for all the products this channel deems as "good"
@@blindtreeman8052 AMD my dude. The new ryzens are hella cheap.
@@Vok250 the American Standard of cheap is vastly different from where I'm from. 10 dollar minimum wage over where I'm from
@@blindtreeman8052 10 dollars an hour is fine?
@@FlourescentPotatolol it's 10 for 8 hours. 10 dollars an hour would be pretty great
My current life is "dealing with $2000 PC from 8 years ago", and gotta say, with the current gpu prices gonna reach 10 years soon!
Whats the spec on that pc? 2000 dollar is still a beast if it is only 8 years ago
@@baigemaeskali it is a good pc. Handle office work with ease, but it is suffering with games. One thing must be considered, I live in a country with high taxes on electronics, specially at that time, so with this cash I purchased an i5-4460, gtx 780, ssd 240 (hdd 1tb), mobo Asus z97.
@@peritoharoldo I have a newer graphics card but a 10 year old ram, cpu and motherboard. Still can run most of the newer games 60fps+
U are from Brazil, right? When u mentioned "high taxes on electronics" I thought "That's Brazil for sure" LOL
@@arkadia3549 u got that right! Not a good thing my country be recognized by its taxes, but it is a true thing!
this is actually really interesting to me... i'm running on a mac mini server from 2012... and i find it pretty damn usable. i upgraded the main drive to SSD and maxed it to 16 gb ram... its only the 2.3ghz lower speed model. I never really max it out making music on ableton, and premiere can do 1080p editing if i limit the preview resolution. I can run photoshop no problem. It doesn't game well, and barely runs CS go on lowest settings, but its interesting to see old hardware still hold up to modern tasks
still using right now my 2008 Core2Quad Q8200 2.33@2.99Ghz / 8G Ram on an Asus P5QL Pro, with a Nvidia 1030, and it plays 4k60p on CZcams (w10x64)
This year again i was thinking to upgrade the whole setup but as i don't play games on it, it still suits my daily needs!
Good guy Linus. Estimates build at 5-7k puts 5k in title to not be as click bait.
yeah and no one talks about that!
5k sounds better than 7k
@@HarshRajAlwaysfree I don't know how you figure that but okay
@@magaman49 since we humans add up numbers in packs of 10 and its multiples
we like numbers which are factors of 10 or its multiples , it makes bundling easier to our pea brains
Well if the range is 5-7k, putting any number between that range would not be considered click bait. Although it does sound a bit more reasonable if he puts 5k.
16:19 Linus having to deal with the problems us budget PC owners have to deal with almost everyday. “Wow this is one spectacular game crash”
I spit out my drink! 😂
@@samuelbaggett5002 lol I can’t even count how many times my PC has just locked up on me, leaving my only solution to be sign out or reboot my PC entirely.
@@Padverus yep sometimes i couldnt even get the ctrl+alt+del to work and even if it did i couldnt make task-manager to pop up
My 2,500€ laptop from 5 years ago is very similar
A good trick I learnt on win 10 is to hit windows key + tab create a new desktop and open task manager in the new desktop by right clicking the task bar not through shortcut key and there you can close any programme that has your PC locked up
16:15 - 16:29
Just because of the game crash that doesn't even let you close it with Task Manager normally I either move the game to a new desktop and close it with Task Manager or enabling "always on top" so I can close the game directly from it, if there's any game that crashed like this.
In 2009 I 've build Asus L1N64 (outdated mobo evev in that time) platform with two Opterons 2356. 8 cores in total an 8GB registered ECC RAM. Everything for low price from old stocks. It was runnig same efficency as 3x more expensive platforms from that time. Had to play a bit with BIOS as geniune mobo was for Athlon FX and Opteron version was still too expensive . The final result was great. The most expensive part was Athlon FX as I needed it to hack the BIOS from regular to server version (WS to WS/B). It was my favourite PC ever.
Its value dropped harder after being in Linus' hands than in the 10 previous years.
Oof, that board flex when Linus is plugging in the RAM.
The real Anthony?!!
@@antonywhatever572 whatever
It makes me angry how he touches hardware. That's the reason why I only watch his videos when I am really interested in the topic.
SatanicSexGod bruh u should see my ghetto ass pc
Still, for us old timers that remember when computers were hopelessly obsolete and completely unusable after only a couple years, a ten year old system that can still run everything on the market, even if maybe not at the highest settings, is pretty darn remarkable.
yes i remeber haha you were buying a cumputer and as you got out of the store it was already absolet haha
Ok boomer
@@Slayyyaphine Well technically Gen X, but admittedly right on the cusp since I was born in 1968 (Boomer is born prior to 1965), so you're not far off
@@Slayyyaphine what did that comment add? Absolutely nothing.
Built to last, as all things should be.
OMG Duc Phuc , i like your cover version. Love it !
I definitely don't miss this style of editing for this channel.
now, put a video card from 2008 (which doesn't decode 4k video) in it, cause that's the only reason it's able to
@uhh so that there would be no bottleneck from the gpu and you can see the processors performance mostly
More entertaining to see what the system from back then would perform like, not with a card from the "future". Glad I read this comment, now I don't even wanna watch the video.
Iwould love to see a cinebench score, Power consumption during gaming 3dmark firestrike
He could at least turn hardware acceleration off in Chrome...
Am I the only one who thinks 10 years ago was around 2000?
Henrique eidt
Yes.
"Damn time travelling..."
Yes I’m old too 🥳
Lol Right!
I think of 1990 when I hear 10 years ago.
Reminds me of my first computer. I actually had an hp rs 25 in my room back when I was a kid.
8:40 that was a slick Das Efx reference 😀
"Now these are really special" *Immediately starts to touch the connector pins*
nothing wrong with doing that lol
@@Blacktronics It depends..
@@eduardoavila646 just no.
@@Blacktronics Wrong, accumulates static could be bad, sweat and grease too.
And some people have, like i had, the uric acid level problem, then literally any metal you touch rusts in a week without cleaning. so the pins could suffer from oxidation.
So dirt, oxidation, uric acid problems (wich can have several levels), grease from the hands or any conductive material in your hands like graphite or any random dust or metalic powder, sweat, eletrostatic discharge, many possibilities of issues with that.
It doesnt aways happens.. that's why i said, it depends..
@@eduardoavila646 Uric acid problems? You mean you're the worlds most sketchy superhero "Rustyboi"?
I dont know what all the hate is about.......Im runing
A tape transport with an 8-photocell reading mechanism.
A six character FIFO shift register
Twelve thyratron ring stores that simulated the Lorenz machine generating a bit-stream for each wheel.
Panels of switches for specifying the program and the "set total".
A set of function units that performed Boolean operations.
A "span counter" that could suspend counting for part of the tape.
A master control that handled clocking, start and stop signals, counter readout and printing.
Five electronic counters.
An electric typewriter.
..and i just finished rendering a black and white picture of a cup. It only took six weeks and $1400 of electricity......you guys have it GOOOOOD !!!
This is gold
I came halfway through reading that.
Bruh
You my friend, golden specimen.
I think that a IBM 1403 Chain Printer would really help your productivity.
This brought back flashbacks to my old Intel Skulltrail, Abit AT8 32X, & DFI boards or gaming Asus Re3? 2xATI HD6990
Having chrome open has my CPU settle at 20%...just sitting there, not doing anything, not a spike, just sitting there doing nothing and hogging 20% of my CPU.
"Wow, this is a spectacular game crash. I can't even get the task manager up"
First time?
nope
It's always hl2
@@harleyspeedthrust4013 hl2? Lol what kinda pc u running?
@@grod5998 I got a good pc 10th gen i7 with a 2070 but hl2 is just old and is hard to close when it crashes
@@harleyspeedthrust4013 weird. Played all the episodes for 15+ hours with no crashes. Source spaghetti amirite?
I cant get over the fact that you are randomly swinging an rtx 2080ti in your hand, I'd build a shrine and worship it
Same fam
Why it’s a regular card
@@justshady who do u think u are saying that..
Gogo sometimes I like to just touch my rtx 2080ti and hope to be as great as it one day
Now imagine what the you from 10 years ago would have thought of the RTX 2080 Ti.
Task manager has this handy feature named "always on top". Should turn that on when u get those type of game crashes often.
i think the definitons of "super old" vary a bit. I remember installing a Riva 128 on some form of K5 or K6 board.
Let alone a harddisk into an Amiga 2000.
Really puts a perspective on "future proofing"
No one says that future proofing means eternal future immunity.
Bulletproof vests don't make you immune to bullets, just a bit more resilient.
It just describes a necessity for upgrade being further away than some other product, whether it's a short/mid/long-term performance with few or many features etc that may or may not be very common now, but it will be eventually, but still not so far away, that purchasing a completely new product might be a necessity. :)
Future proofing works for like 3 years, by then most people upgrade again.
@@xxxod i mean when it comes to some things its future proof like psus right? If you get a 1600w psu idk why you would have to upgrade any time soon
Jo-E using a psu is based on the power consumption of your system for example your cpu was the 65watts and your gpu was 220 watts then you should get a bare minimum of 450 watts just so you don’t bottle neck instead of getting a bare minimum psu if you get a 1600watt psu it’s not necessary for your system on top of that power efficient increase as thing tend to progress but again that is not a reason to get low watt psu as things like overclocking or even in instances of more powerful hardware still requiring more power
@@hexados7479 You could run two 3090’s and 10900k and still not hit the limit with a 1600 watt power supply.
Surely he didn't do that whole video without a cinebench score???
They can include it if they do overclocking for the comparison
well he did say there's a part two...
I'd love to see how that thing stacks up against my X6 1100T's 671 pts in R15
spavatch What clock speed do you have that running at? I had a 1055T running at 3.9 and I got 580.
@@Celeron_619 - 4.5 GHz. I bet you're running it on DDR3 so you'd get that score at just 4.0-4.2.
its crazy the north bridge and southbridge are now both on my cpu die . its only been around 10 years and my lap top cpu (Ryzen 5 3500u) has both . The perspective compared even to then is mindboggling.
they should make a dual cpu socket mobo for threadrippers. that would be sick and idk what you would use it for but it would still be sick
Can you imagine if there was such a thing today and you could run a pair of i9's together 💀 killer
@Nick Diesal right but 2 i9's
@@Ajallday1010 so a single 5950x lol
@@thevisi0naryy that is factual, hmmm I guess it wouldn't be as wild or as uncommon power wise
@@Ajallday1010 There's a couple reasons why. The biggest one is that the latency of trying to use two cpu's on different sockets is huge, they cant work together and communicate fast enough for it to be beneficial (most of the time).
But for the most part if you have tasks that benefit from lots of cores, you can pretty much get however many you need in a single cpu. There are server cpu's reaching up into the 64 core range. When this motherboard was made in 2010, I think the highest core count cpu was 6 cores. Crazy right? Thats only 11 freaking years.
And while thats really cool, most of the software me or you would use would not see any practical benefit from that amount of cores. Maybe even worse depending on the software.
There are, actually. System76 sells a few. Though looking at the overall specs, having 2 processors is the least impressive part.
*Linus:* Creates the most popular PC Tech channel on CZcams.
*Also Linus:* "SSD DRIVE"
You know that a thing right?
@@pronoob3238 "SSD drive" = solid state drive... drive
@@pronoob3238 ssd = solid state drive
So what linus said was solid state drive drive
@@zerenityzz Exactly, it's a lapsus, he meant storage
You have to get the money to buy one from an ATM machine
16:33 is why I love my Mac. I definitely want an actual gaming PC, but M1 Pro is great for right now.
7:00 linus gave me so much anxiety by holding it that way lol.
Linus: "Oh crap I forgot to plug back the chipset fan in"
Tests: Invalid, do it all over again.
He SHOULD have re-run those tests.
Those were regular double-click-to-launch tests, with no complex results; just looking at it and saying if it's good.
You let the 8-ball fall. Test failed.
Needs More Fans :P :P
@@HazardXXX highly incorrect, the ESB2 did have a internal thermal throttle, it also throttled the nforce100 bridges below it
The look on his face 🤣
"This is one spectacular crash"
Gmod: Pathetic
Fucking gmod 😂
actually, you have to run task manager in stay on top mode for those kinds of game crashes. I think its something about a crashed game being in full-screen. But ending the task works fine. I have to do that with (heavily modded) skyrim all the time.
"11 year old hardware plays 4K CZcams just fine"
While using a Titan X with VP9 hardware decode.
With every video he does, he makes himself look so fkn dumb. why can't he take some time to prepare before starting to record ffs.
Didn't saw your comment when i wrote mine, when he was testing rocket league at around 17:00, he also had fps locked to 62 ( which is default setting for some reason ).
@@-na-nomad6247 You can even see Chrome's using 37% of the GPU in Task Manager...lol
@@fallingnao3919 62fps? sounds like v-sync is disabled, just
And SSd that didn't exist back then. Not bad
Linus your ads are so quick, I end up overshooting if I fast forward, so I just watch them now.
elkikex lmao same
You can change the seek time from 10s to 5s in CZcams settings
@@sravan_krishnan you've changed my life
Nah, I always watch through ads to see how the transition goes.
@@nonoaidnono Only ever happy to pass on my knowledge 😂that had changed my life too in the past
I always come back to watch this video every so often tbh
We had tons of these at work, not that MB, but the HP Z800's, some were 10-20k.
Turn off hardware gpu assistance in your browser and THEN check your cpu usage Linus
Not a fair comparison since modern CPUs have H.264/HEVC/VP9 decoding.