Yamaha update the WR250R already!

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  • čas přidán 10. 05. 2024
  • #chroniclesofsolid #advnews
    The mighty little Yamaha WR250R dual sport has been gone for 4 years now. Which is a dame shame. What made it such a great little motorcycle? why did it get discontinued and will we ever see an updated version like a WR300R or WR350R?
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  • @sandrider1406
    @sandrider1406 Před 11 dny +23

    WR450R now please….. the unicorn that we all want!

    • @zokhrozzWoomzy
      @zokhrozzWoomzy Před 11 dny +2

      Japan is dying, dude. It'll never happen

    • @lhurst9550
      @lhurst9550 Před 11 dny

      All you have to do the the WR is spend $150 to unleash the motor and it is the same engine/power of the YZ. And, then live in a free state. In my state you can tag anything with two wheels.

    • @sandrider1406
      @sandrider1406 Před 11 dny

      @@zokhrozzWoomzy dying of what??

    • @sandrider1406
      @sandrider1406 Před 11 dny +1

      @@lhurst9550 impossible, the YZ motor is completely different from the WR250R

    • @lhurst9550
      @lhurst9550 Před 11 dny

      @@sandrider1406 I was talking 450. The 24 WR is the same as current YZ.

  • @samueljlarson
    @samueljlarson Před 11 dny +8

    Best 50/50 dualsport ever made!!!! WR350R would have us all begging Yamaha to take our money.

    • @johannescarlsson4559
      @johannescarlsson4559 Před 5 dny

      Suzuki already made the DR350 long time ago, and dropped the ball with the DRZ400

  • @MrFurious1993
    @MrFurious1993 Před 11 dny +4

    I would LOVE to see Yamaha bring the WR250r back as a 350cc model. The WR was a little too MX in terms of the seat ergonomics for my liking, but otherwise it was an awesome bike. I still say the 350's of the 1980's and 1990's were the best all around dual-sport/enduro-type bikes ever made and considering how well they sold in their day it amazes me not one of the Big 4 has ventured back into that mid-size niche` of the market in the last 15-20 years. Closest thing we have is the DRZ 400S which itself hasn't gotten any real update since it's introduction in 2000 as a more modern replacement for the DR350's which were dropped the following year.
    It also still baffles me to no end why Honda never released a dual-sport electric start version of the XR400r (a XR400L) after they added the e-start to the engine for use in the EX400 quad in 1999. Major missed opportunity there on Honda's part. The XR line of bikes was still hugely popular at that time for Honda and the only dual-sport offering they had at that time was the XR650L (the XR250L had been dropped in 1996 in the U.S. market), so a street legal version of the XR400r with e-start would have filled a HUGE gap in their line-up, would have been notably cheaper than it's nearest competitor - the DRZ 400S, and it needed little to no resources for R&D to bring it to market.
    Personally I'd like to see someone - anyone - bring back something similar to the dual-sports of the 1980's and 90's with modern engines featuring fuel injection and electric start, and better fully adjustable suspensions. Keep the rider ergo's more relaxed like a DR or KLR rather than the skinny rock-hard MX-style seats most of the smaller dual-sports now feature. Also no more nose bleed seat heights on everything; bring them back down to a more manageable 30-32" height rather than the 33"+ height most of the dual-sports have today. Something that's not just a "dirtbike with mirrors and turn signals," but something that's also still comfortable to ride on the pavement as well while still offering good off-road performance for trail riding.
    Let's be honest and face facts, the vast majority of dual-sport owners aren't out there attacking gnarly single track trails littered with obstacles worthy of a hard enduro course. The vast majority just want something simple and fun that's bulletproof reliable for tooling around on managed trail systems, forestry roads, snowmobile trails, etc. They don't need 13" of suspension travel or 12"+ of ground clearance, nor do they need 40+ horsepower or suspension suitable for desert or hard enduro racing.
    The only bikes currently on the market in the U.S. that come close to fitting this description (IMO) would be the Suzuki DR 400S and the Yamaha XT250 - the latter being on the smaller side in terms of displacement. Something similar to the XT250 in a 350-450 displacement is what we really need, and preferably - if possible with emissions - keep it air-cooled for simplicity and as a cost saving measure to leave more money available for a little better (adjustable) suspension. How about a proper update for the Suzuki DRZ400S? Or how about a larger 350-400cc version of the old Kawasaki KLR250 Super Sherpa How about bringing back the old Yamaha XT350 or upping it to a XT400? And finally Honda...oh Honda! If they can waste time/money on things like the Rune and the Fury, then by God they should be able to find some time and resources to make a proper 350-400cc big brother to the new XR150L for Christ's sake.
    I don't think that's asking too much of the Big 4, but apparently it is since not one of them has brought something like that to market in nearly 20 years now. *stepping off my soap box* 😁

  • @patrolmaverick
    @patrolmaverick Před 12 dny +13

    I reckon they could take a fair chunk of Honda's market if they went for a 350 rather than a 300.

    • @suzyamerica4679
      @suzyamerica4679 Před 12 dny +3

      A 350 would be the sweet spot. Honda's 300 is actually a 286 anyway :(

    • @funkygas
      @funkygas Před 11 dny +2

      Agree. I’ve seen some videos of upgrading the crf300l with a big bore kit -and wonder why Honda didn’t do that in the first place. That extra nudge of power made it even better, without being a competitor to the 450

    • @suzyamerica4679
      @suzyamerica4679 Před 11 dny +1

      @@funkygas Bingo. Injected & 6-speed 350 would be a win.

  • @_hold_the_line_
    @_hold_the_line_ Před 12 dny +10

    WR250R is the best bike to learn adventure riding on. It's very forgiving and super stable on gravel roads. Just get one that is fully kitted out with a big tank, comfy seat, suspension upgrade, rally pegs, screen etc. It's a fantastic bike and a WR350R would be a big success for Yamaha.

    • @KingFriday274
      @KingFriday274 Před 8 dny

      Learn? I started on a klr, then an xr650l, then another klr, then a vstrom, and finally a wr250r. This is where it ends.

  • @brettshelton6114
    @brettshelton6114 Před 12 dny +15

    Absolutely 💯, why oh why haven't the Japanese bikes (Yamaha, Kawa etc) MADE a 350 ????
    Come on DO IT.... it will be awesome....10 years to late , but awesome !

    • @Jonathan-L
      @Jonathan-L Před 12 dny

      Bring back the Banshee engine and put it in a WR frame. C'mon Yamaha, you can do it :)

    • @zokhrozzWoomzy
      @zokhrozzWoomzy Před 11 dny

      ​@@Jonathan-Lanother meme bike how cool bro

  • @jeffgarner1448
    @jeffgarner1448 Před 11 dny +3

    Modular platform ,450 to 600 ,4 gallon tank ,tft display, ,6 speed ,35 to 36 inch seat height, with decent suspension for someone over 200lbs, fun to ride easy to wheelie, with long service intervals, 50 to 60 hp,40 to 50 lb feet of torque. With a dry weight around 310 to 370 lbs.

  • @TwoMotoKiwis
    @TwoMotoKiwis Před 11 dny +2

    I did South Korea, Russia, Mongolia and the Stans to Bulgaria on a WR250R...perfect weapon of choice 👍

  • @robannebenson3770
    @robannebenson3770 Před 12 dny +10

    YAMAHA - Just Do It... WR325/350R please

  • @jakeviolet2195
    @jakeviolet2195 Před 11 dny +5

    I miss my WRR! Sold it for a DRZ because I wanted more power. But it was one step forward and two steps back.

    • @LemonsGD
      @LemonsGD Před 9 dny +1

      I did exactly the same, I love my new DRZ but part of me misses the Yamaha. I think I may have to buy back my WR one day and just own them both.

  • @mgpBLARG
    @mgpBLARG Před 11 dny +2

    Wr500r is what we need.
    Long maintenence intervals, relatively low HP for a 500cc but far more hp than a drz400, large oil capacity, under seat fuel tank, super rigid pannier rack system, and a center stand.

  • @leanit5756
    @leanit5756 Před 11 dny +3

    I had two WR250Rs, but sold them both due to anemic power. But would buy another if it was a 350 (minimum) - 500 (preferred). If the Japanese keep dragging their feet, KTM is going to jump in and own this hole that has been in the market for almost 20 years.

  • @glennboy66
    @glennboy66 Před 11 dny +3

    I just spent 7 days straight riding the wr250r with my enduro riding mates, its such a versatile bike, could it do with more power yes but can you use more power most of the time offroad NO. Id like to see a 300-350 rally version, Honda got it right except for the suspension.

  • @johnwilson8837
    @johnwilson8837 Před 12 dny +4

    I am an American living in Thailand and I have the Yamaha wr155. Yes it's heavy, minimal suspension adjustments but this little bike will take me all over Thailand. It's made in Thailand but I am not sure it's sold outside of southeast Asia. Cheers

  • @Pillokun
    @Pillokun Před 12 dny +9

    why would they not just put a bigger engine in that frame? Pretty sure they can fit even an 600cc singe in there and the main frame is sold and actually looks like a proper dritbike frame as well. Pretty sure there are plenty of garage mods where they have done that, so why cant Yamaha do it?

    • @suzyamerica4679
      @suzyamerica4679 Před 12 dny +2

      I ask the same from Honda, because people (in their garage shops) have been putting the CB500X drivetrain into the CRF250L frame. There's only 20 lbs difference between the two powerplants. And then you have a sub-350lb offroad highway-capable twin.

    • @jakeviolet2195
      @jakeviolet2195 Před 11 dny +4

      I imagine it has something to do with emmissions. Im pretty sure that's why they had to discontinue the 250R in the first place, even though it was far from a gross polluter. The way emmissions regulations are structured around the world are totally backward. They punish small lightweight vehicles (like mini trucks and single cylinder dual sports) while promoting behemoths. That's why even commuter cars weigh as much as a small sun these days and pickup trucks keep getting bigger, heavier and more expensive.

  • @InternetzVideoz
    @InternetzVideoz Před 11 dny +3

    I've had mine for 5 years.
    When it gets tired, I plan on rebuilding with cylinder works and a 2mm stroker crank, making it a 283.
    The downfalls are lack of freeway power, and the rear shock.
    I'd put money down on a WR350R.

  • @AWAG_FK
    @AWAG_FK Před 11 dny +3

    I'd like to see a light adventure version of my Beta 390 RRS. The motor is incredible, but it needs a 6th gear, higher oil capacity and a smidge of wind protection.

  • @blooskyy7
    @blooskyy7 Před 12 dny +8

    Still love my WR

  • @wickedleeloopy2115
    @wickedleeloopy2115 Před 12 dny +5

    Yamaha have the 321cc in the R3 that could have been used in a next generation WR 300

  • @seanwarren9307
    @seanwarren9307 Před 12 dny +3

    Just like a new DR650, we can hope. Great vids. Thanks

  • @mikeisland7382
    @mikeisland7382 Před 11 dny +2

    A WR550 with a decent tank and seat I'd be very interested in. For the street end of dual sport a little more displacement goes a long way. to making a bike fun to ride.

  • @travishimself1973
    @travishimself1973 Před 12 dny +3

    Still got a 2017 wr250r sitting in the garage. Doesn't seem to go down in value so no point in selling it.

  • @mindful_moto
    @mindful_moto Před 11 dny +2

    Just bought a farkled out Wr after owning a klx300 and crf250L and this bike is so much better than both of them. So much fun, the motor is a blast, very refined and smooth. Absolutely love the WR. This is my 11th motorcycle and my favorite. Don’t sleep in the Wr

  • @algee8228
    @algee8228 Před 12 dny +4

    What a shock that would be if Yamaha actually pulled it off. If anything it would be a long dragged-out affair like the release of the T7.

    • @chroniclesofsolid
      @chroniclesofsolid  Před 12 dny

      🥲

    • @jakeviolet2195
      @jakeviolet2195 Před 11 dny

      If we start hearing rumblings about it today, we can expect a 2030 release... Just in time for the globalist nanny state to ban motorcycles altogether.

  • @user-sp6tl3nq8w
    @user-sp6tl3nq8w Před 12 dny +10

    Yamaha don't want to lose the potential T7 buyers.

    • @TommyNitro
      @TommyNitro Před 11 dny +2

      I think the issue here is that the T7 is a totally different class. I will not own a mid weight adv. I would own a wr. As it stands I have no Yamaha's in the garage.

    • @1uke69er
      @1uke69er Před 11 dny +1

      That's such a dumb attitude we don't want to lose customers to ourselves so we'll lose customers to our competitors instead.

    • @pizzahut5124
      @pizzahut5124 Před 11 dny +1

      I have a t7 and would drop the cash in a second for a 300-450 Yamaha dual sport. Completely different animal.

  • @bryangraham1971
    @bryangraham1971 Před 11 dny +1

    I would love a 350 or 450 dual sport w/ efi, 6 speed, and long maintenance intervals. Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki? Anyone listening?

  • @torreypine
    @torreypine Před 11 dny +1

    One thing a lot of people miss is how tractable the power is on this bike. I’ve seen people goating around places on this bike that give absolute headaches to the 450s and 500s.

  • @kirksebts
    @kirksebts Před 11 dny +1

    Right you are! Yamaha definitely needs to reintroduce the WR in 300-350! The WR250R was the best dual sport out there! Really bad move to not only take it off the market but at the same time Honda & Kawasaki introduce their 300s. Yamaha is no longer relevant unless you find a used WR in good condition. However, as technology changes, Yamaha could totally introduce a cutting edge WR300-350R and blow the other two out the water. I mean it’s a no brainer! What is Yamaha waiting on? They’re losing customers & revenue! Come on Yamaha!!! Great video!🤙🏽 You’re saying what we’re all thinking!🤓

  • @James.._
    @James.._ Před 12 dny +1

    I initially miss-read the title as it being updated...😢
    Nevermind, one can always dream 🙂

    • @steveh545
      @steveh545 Před 11 dny +1

      Me too! Thought we had some “breaking news!”

  • @oic1968
    @oic1968 Před 11 dny +1

    I have had both and they are two very different..I miss my wr250r

  • @kirohennessy2123
    @kirohennessy2123 Před 12 dny +2

    I'm sad that they cancelled VMAX

  • @mnap89
    @mnap89 Před 11 dny +1

    Would love to see WR250R successor.
    My idea is to use R3/MT03 engine in WR250R frame(maybe with some update?) - this engine have plenty of power and even could be geared slightly for more torque. In this case engine bike would be very smooth becasue of 2 cyliders.
    Second idea for engine would require more r&d - yamaha could chop down their CP2 engine to leave one ~350ccm cylinder.
    In both cases it would require a lot of r&d from Yamaha. Bike would probably be heavier than WR250R - especially when using 2 cyl engine.
    And switchable ABS is a must have to sell in whole world - otherwise it would be like KLX300 that is not available in EU :/
    We need more competition in this segment - Honda cant be only one producing small dualsport.

  • @NZCycletherapy
    @NZCycletherapy Před 12 dny +1

    It’s weird how a brand gets under your skin, I spent the last years of my racing career on Yamaha and would never part with my WR, even if they did bring out a 300 I’d probably just buy one of those too as it’s so iconic.

  • @marinoopen
    @marinoopen Před 11 dny

    Thanks!

  • @malisinimicus4358
    @malisinimicus4358 Před 12 dny +2

    If Yamaha were to develope a 360 or 400 liquid cooled 2 stroke that could meet emmisions with high tech 2 stroke tech and bring back a low seat height version of their old DT in a ralley style bike with fulley adjustable Ohlins susp it would sell like hot cakes at a fatty convension

  • @billcotton1551
    @billcotton1551 Před 8 dny

    Tom ,of Riding with Tom would agree with you on this, Solid.

  • @rogerthat1553
    @rogerthat1553 Před 11 dny

    One cylinder from the T7 would be 344.5cc, that would put Yamaha back in the game.

  • @justgjt
    @justgjt Před 11 dny +1

    If the bean counters say no it will never fly. The dollar always wins.

  • @Weltbummler23
    @Weltbummler23 Před 9 dny

    I'm done waiting for a WR350R, WR450R, 390 Enduro R or any other new lightweight 400-500cc dual sport from the major manufacturers. As far as I'm concerned there's two lightweight unicorns already available for long distance adventure rides if you make enough mods. Just bite the bullet and get either 1) a drz400E and install the ACT wide ratio gearbox, EFI kit, and make major changes to the ergos to suit your taste. Suitable choice in Oz. Or 2) a DR350 and install a 9.5:1 CR 440 big bore kit, EFI kit, factory oil cooler to increase oil change intervals from 5k km to about 7k/8k km, and change ergos as well. More suitable in the states since we don't have many drz400e. Each of these are < 310lbs wet and each have a strong enough rear sub frame for pannier racks and luggage. Will take some work to get either of those going but when the new dual sports come out sometime in the next 10 years they probably won’t be as light as these bikes. Might as well put in the work on one of these now and get it done.
    One advantage of the DR350 over the DRZ is that it has a lower CG and less weight on the front end. I've always found the DRZ ergos, steering and handling to be a bit off. DR350 might solve that. Much prefer the geometry of a DR650...

    • @Weltbummler23
      @Weltbummler23 Před 2 dny

      Scratch that i just spoke with bill blue and found out that he has a 351 big bore kit for both the crf300L and klx300 which still run on regular gas.
      These bring up the power of these 300’s to within a few hp of the drz and i believe should be good enough to easilu cruise at 75mph on freeway for extended duration. He also provides an EJK kit loaded some base tuning to get the big bore running.
      Should be a lot more straightforward than trying to build a modern dr350 or drz.

  • @Chris_Z.
    @Chris_Z. Před 12 dny +2

    Yamaha could make their 300 twin motor fit into the t7 frame and have a Tenere 300 adventure bike.

  • @ripmax333
    @ripmax333 Před 6 dny

    If they ever go ahead and make a WR300 or 400r dualsport again they won't make an expensive high end one as it was the WR250r, motorcycle prices are already going out of hand.

  • @paoloforti3762
    @paoloforti3762 Před 12 dny +1

    I live in Italy and now have a 2016 WR 250 F (with Athena Big Bore 300 cc Kit) that is a great bike but may be I would go back to a 300 cc 2t for technical riding and buy also a used WR250R. I would be really curious to see the difference and see how far can I go in enduro and how confortable could be going adventure riding (that I know do with a Caballero 500 Rally, pretty fun bike to ride). What do you think about ? What about compered to a modified CRF 300 L with new suspension ? Anyway I do not think Yamaha will update this bike, at lieast not in Europe, unfortunately. They are not any more intersted in small displacement enduro or dual sport...

  • @TheFoxyt2
    @TheFoxyt2 Před 12 dny +2

    Only if it weighs like a ktm 350. Then I’d buy a wr 350 :)

  • @ScotlandsGold
    @ScotlandsGold Před 12 dny

    Cos keeping the dream alive 💛

  • @MotoCampAdv
    @MotoCampAdv Před 10 dny

    No mention of the two small displacement dual sports already in Yamaha lineup

  • @shanebennett6088
    @shanebennett6088 Před 11 dny

    Hi solid enjoy very much watching your videos mate thank you keep them coming and yeh i love my wr250r ive owned it for nearly 7yrs now just wish it had that little bit more I'm not greedy dont need something with a shit load of power and weight would be very great full for a wr350r safe riding solid

  • @Bicycle_Fungi
    @Bicycle_Fungi Před 12 dny +2

    Ooh the clickbait is strong with this one. I fell for it. I’m ashamed of myself.

  • @gregbrown5473
    @gregbrown5473 Před 8 dny

    I love my WR250R don't know if I will ever sell it ya don't need really anymore power in the bush well yes a 300-350 option would go well , its just that highway speed where the power is needed.
    I've got a old 1200 GSA some old YZF 1000's and its nice to take the bigger displacement bike for a ride but the most fun is the WR on the dirt or the twisty hard top roads 🙂🤙

  • @brendenvosper7772
    @brendenvosper7772 Před 11 dny

    Good video, I believe 400 is a good balance between torque and lightness. Keeping the platform as close to the original would be the goal here. Of course 400cc and ABS will add weight and change the character immensely. Tweak the shock rebound but otherwise leave it the same. The sub frame could use a bit of a tweak to guard against fatigue.

  • @takeshikusao4674
    @takeshikusao4674 Před 9 dny

    I feel this 'half-engine' solution could easily be done again. Like, take that great parallel twin from Tenere, cut it in half figuratively speaking, and here's your 350 single for a lighter ATV bike.

  • @SWTrailsAndWheels
    @SWTrailsAndWheels Před 11 dny

    Investing in a new platform when gasoline vehicles are starting to be banned from city centers could be giving many projects pause...

  • @ddrowdy2
    @ddrowdy2 Před 11 dny

    I have a WR250R, it's a good bike, would be a great bike if they had shaved 50 pounds off it. I wish they would make a street legal version of the YZ450WR.

  • @matthewporter4711
    @matthewporter4711 Před 10 dny

    350- 390 six speed adventure rally. Seat not to high lower fuel tank with great suspension.

  • @lydia_kitchen
    @lydia_kitchen Před 11 dny

    In Europe we got the Fantic with Yamaha WR motor and frane and so on. There is a export treaty i think its not available in the US. Abaut Australia i dont know.

  • @latituderider
    @latituderider Před 10 dny

    I love my Honda, but I'd be very tempted to buy one of these if it got updated.

  • @TommyNitro
    @TommyNitro Před 11 dny

    How about parts availability for those who would buy a used WR250R?

  • @therealtashiro
    @therealtashiro Před 10 dny

    Best bet is to work with their current WR450F...

  • @philipshore6924
    @philipshore6924 Před 12 dny

    I'd buy it. I'm getting older now and want to downsize to a lighter adventure type of riding but I want that higher spec suspension and motor off the shelf. If they don't do something soon, I would buy an e-MTB instead. More importantly, the manufacturers need entry level bikes to capture the next generation.

  • @gtojr7016
    @gtojr7016 Před 11 dny +1

    You've seen the rumour Yamaha is developing a wr200r and wr200rx ? This was reported by the magazine out of Japan called Young Machine that is noted for scooping new rising sun models. They have a web page and the only visible hint is it's on the cover of their latest mag as I don't subscribe or read Japanese.

  • @defconsupply3990
    @defconsupply3990 Před dnem

    Rear suspension on these units sucked off road. Like a pogo stick at speed. The reliability of mine was so good though

  • @naturalbornleniwiec
    @naturalbornleniwiec Před 9 dny

    Best dual sport bike ever. I have also CRF300L and brand new Kove 450 Rally. WR250R is simply better. 🤷‍♀️

  • @joecrocket7873
    @joecrocket7873 Před 12 dny +20

    I think they'd be better off making a mini tenere and add another cylinder and make it around a 500cc Rally or Adventure bike. I think that would be the sweet spot and totally take the competition off guard.

    • @slakk5093
      @slakk5093 Před 12 dny +1

      i'd buy it

    • @Jonathan-L
      @Jonathan-L Před 12 dny +1

      I think you're onto something there Joe. A 500cc twin with 270 degree crank. C'mon Yamaha, I'll have one in blue please.

    • @ERUtheWINDRIDER
      @ERUtheWINDRIDER Před 12 dny +3

      CF Moto already beat Yama in that regard.

    • @joecrocket7873
      @joecrocket7873 Před 12 dny

      I know so what better way to step up their game.​@@ERUtheWINDRIDER

    • @janniksims5740
      @janniksims5740 Před 12 dny

      But if I could get a Chinese bike or a Yamaha I know where I would put my money... But they won't built a lighter/smaller Tenere, as it would dig into the market of the actual Tenere ​@@ERUtheWINDRIDER

  • @Argo-F-Ur-Sef
    @Argo-F-Ur-Sef Před 11 dny

    I think it’s a shame. People are learning of other brands and developing other brand followings the more time goes by. I don’t even hear much about the XT250 but even that is being beaten out by the other 300s.

  • @joshdoddadbod
    @joshdoddadbod Před 11 dny

    I want a single cylinder 450 adv bike like a mini tenere. I'm hoping it's taken so long because they are in fact working on something special.

  • @churchofbrap876
    @churchofbrap876 Před 7 dny

    Yamaha has decided to completely ignore the dual sport market. Honda loves that decision.

  • @mattwilliams7454
    @mattwilliams7454 Před 11 dny

    Yeah its quite a bit lighter than say the crf 250l. It would be nice. Im afraid of what the price would be on a 350

  • @yorkchris10
    @yorkchris10 Před 12 dny

    1/2 of a CP2 doesn't make much sense, but a mono version would make a nice CP1 family.

  • @dustinanderson4809
    @dustinanderson4809 Před 8 dny

    With the new KTM 390's coming.... and the market shifting twards that magic 400ish displacement I think they either need to target that or stay out of it entirely.

  • @mikelobdell2666
    @mikelobdell2666 Před 11 dny

    Seat height was too limiting for many people. They sell buckets of xt250's all over the world because of the approachable seat height. Personally I think that the most you could hope for would be a 300 ish version of the xt. Reality though may be more like, sell xt250's until nobody can sell internal combustion motorcycles anymore.

    • @leeroykelly781
      @leeroykelly781 Před 5 dny

      I know Honda has came out with an “s” model for the crf300l (lower seat height)

  • @Jungleland33
    @Jungleland33 Před 11 dny

    I'm gutted that Yamaha stopped producing the 1200 Tenere as it's engine couldn't get Euro 5 compliance. I wish they'd get their finger out and produce it again as there are plenty of people who would snap them up for long distance touring. The T7 just doesn't tick enough boxes for me yet.

  • @travishimself1973
    @travishimself1973 Před 12 dny +2

    I don't think the Honda and Kawasaki dual sports are doing well. Rarely ever see them in the wild so I doubt that's giving Yamaha any confidence to compete with the small adventure bikes again.

    • @suzyamerica4679
      @suzyamerica4679 Před 12 dny

      I haven't tried one yet, but heard from people that the KLX300 isn't as good as either the WR250R or the CRF300L.

  • @quintmarcaletti4189
    @quintmarcaletti4189 Před 12 dny

    If they took 1/4 of the FJR1300, they would have a 325cc...perfect!

  • @lachy1709
    @lachy1709 Před 8 dny

    Tenere 350/400 would be nice to see

  • @888jimmy
    @888jimmy Před 12 dny

    With the success Yamaha are having with their T7 I don’t see any single cylinder dual sport in their future. Maybe a smaller Tenere twin sibling…

  • @lhurst9550
    @lhurst9550 Před 11 dny

    We still get them in the USA, so it is an issue with your market. Sales or emissions regulations.

  • @kokkiematematika1931
    @kokkiematematika1931 Před 11 dny

    I have a WR450F and converted my 'Popeye' (mean power & torque) into a light weight adventure bike. I sense that your inspiring view of the WR250R applies to my 'Popeye'. Any comments from your side??

    • @chroniclesofsolid
      @chroniclesofsolid  Před 11 dny

      I’ve only ridden the WR450F twice. All I will say is that the only similarity they share is that they are both blue 😅 I’ve seen some set up real nice for ADV but a bit too raw for my lacklustre skills 🙃

  • @ERUtheWINDRIDER
    @ERUtheWINDRIDER Před 12 dny +4

    The better idea for Yamaha will be to up their game to a 450~550 cc engine, killing the Kawy and Hinda and competing with Himalayan, 450MT, 450Rally etc

  • @MrBlunders70
    @MrBlunders70 Před 12 dny +1

    If Yamaha copy and pasted Hondas' 300L, and moved production to Thailand/ south east Asia, they could sell the numbers to make it worthwhile....Thailand has strong protectionism for their motorcycle industry, imported bikes are expensive, look up the price for a Honda 300L in Thailand.

    • @jakeviolet2195
      @jakeviolet2195 Před 11 dny +2

      Yeah, but then what would be the point? We dont need another SE Asian market budget commuter in dual sport drag with a Yamaha badge. We need a high end Japanese built performance dual sport.

    • @MrBlunders70
      @MrBlunders70 Před 11 dny

      You’re so correct, but the big four don’t make bikes for the Australian market they make them for Asia, then America and Europe.

  • @roblange1445
    @roblange1445 Před 11 dny

    Gimmie a THUMPER! A 690/701 beater cos I’m selling my T7 for one soon

  • @markcomisky7106
    @markcomisky7106 Před 11 dny

    Yamaha needs a real duel purpose motorcycle like beta ect..

  • @jabug_1144
    @jabug_1144 Před 11 dny

    What if Yamaha rip off the crf450rl strategy with the wr450f but don’t screw up the efi?

  • @punchbuggyyellow7097
    @punchbuggyyellow7097 Před 12 dny

    I can't see a true successor coming out with everyone moving to a modular system. Honda's 300 single powers a few of their motorcycle models. And building motorcycles is more of a passion project for Kawasaki, who seem to want the crown for most models in their lineup. Yamaha has already moved to a twin with the R3/MT-03, so they'd probably be more likely to release a mini Tenere using the same 321cc engine.

  • @770hevron
    @770hevron Před 11 dny

    So we will wait for the new drz...

  • @Laplander.
    @Laplander. Před 12 dny +1

    Fantic has XEF 310 (Yamaha WR)

    • @jimtitt3571
      @jimtitt3571 Před 12 dny +1

      Which is a full-on race bike not a trail/dual sport.

    • @Laplander.
      @Laplander. Před 12 dny +1

      Road legal in my country.

    • @paoloforti3762
      @paoloforti3762 Před 12 dny

      @@Laplander. I have the Yamaha WR 250 F (with 300 Athena big bore kit) so very close to the Fantic 300 and I can confrim it is a full enduro race bike, it's street legal but just enough to get to the close by single track or enduro park. The WR250 R instead is pretty diferent in service intervals and road capability...

    • @jimtitt3571
      @jimtitt3571 Před 11 dny

      ​@@Laplander.So are my 450EXC and my 200EXC but they are still race bikes with usual challenging maintenance intervals and terrible road manners. The European manufacturers take advantage of an EU exception to many of the laws about manufacture of motorcycles for machines primarily built for off-road use, trials bikes and competition enduro machines make it through by defining the seat heights and ground clearance.😂🎉

  • @alistairbartlett1930

    Just seen it lol

  • @samhill3496
    @samhill3496 Před 11 dny

    We may see one, from a distance. Sure there will be a modular product produced for the up and coming 3rd world countries. That's where the market and money is gir these size motorcycles. The market is almost dead in USA. There are all kinds and sizes of adv bikes sitting at deslerships. When we wanted them we couldn't have them. Buyers have moved on.

  • @je7647
    @je7647 Před 4 dny

    Annoyed the ag100 was discont lol

  • @Dalton5042
    @Dalton5042 Před 10 dny

    If Yamaha had a WR350R when I bought my KTM, I would have gotten it instead.

  • @southerndeth
    @southerndeth Před 11 dny

    I would like to see 12 new Dual-Sports from Japan. The CRF450L came out 5 years ago. Where is Yamaha's, Kawasaki's and Suzuki's? l think the market is dead.

    • @zokhrozzWoomzy
      @zokhrozzWoomzy Před 11 dny

      The crf450l is just a glorified dirt bike 🤣

    • @southerndeth
      @southerndeth Před 11 dny

      @@zokhrozzWoomzy Exactly

    • @churchofbrap876
      @churchofbrap876 Před 7 dny

      ​@@zokhrozzWoomzy450L is bad a$$. Aimed at more experienced riders.

  • @kingrasta7888
    @kingrasta7888 Před 11 dny

    Wr300r please and thank you

  • @michaelglenn2468
    @michaelglenn2468 Před 11 dny

    Give us a T3 but keep it under 300 lbs and $7k. They'll not be able to keep up with demand just as when the T7 came out.

  • @charlesr9110
    @charlesr9110 Před 11 dny

    I think that something like a tenere 400 is more likely

  • @straightup1234
    @straightup1234 Před 12 dny

    Please yamaha mini tenere 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @unknowncommonman
    @unknowncommonman Před 11 dny

    Solid among these theories which is most likely to be true in the first place ??
    Conspiracy theory :
    1) Just like WR250 was made from R1 engine. So, Maybe WR300 will be made from MT-09 Engine as it is also a pleasurable motorcycle to ride with a really great engine and good output.
    OR
    2) 321cc engine from R3 and MT-03 might make its way to the WR300 .
    OR
    3) They might be developing a 300cc single for the market right now.( Warning: Take the last theory with a some skeptisim ).

    • @chroniclesofsolid
      @chroniclesofsolid  Před 11 dny +1

      I think number 2 but I’d love to see any of those options 😎

  • @tomas7367
    @tomas7367 Před 11 dny

    WR 450 = 660 motor 👌

  • @KingFriday274
    @KingFriday274 Před 8 dny

    Huge tank? 2.1 us gallons.

  • @stefanmargraf7878
    @stefanmargraf7878 Před 11 dny

    Irrational those decisions mostly are. Yamaha should make a better CRF300. A 350-400 displacement would be perfect. Weight under 150kg. 2 Person capability. Around 33-40PS with about 30-40 Nm. Fuel consumption about 3,5l/100km. 12l tank volume and about 2-3l oil volume. LED lights, ABS, E-start. Dont wait for the Chinese.

  • @gabrielkopp2036
    @gabrielkopp2036 Před 11 dny

    I would call bs on the reason. At least in the US... if emissions and abs were tje reason then why can honda still manufacture the xr650l and suzuki still manufacture thr drz400s and dr650?

    • @joshdoddadbod
      @joshdoddadbod Před 11 dny +1

      The grandfather clause.

    • @gabrielkopp2036
      @gabrielkopp2036 Před 11 dny

      @@joshdoddadbod the explain why yamaha stopped making the xt350 in 2000

    • @joshdoddadbod
      @joshdoddadbod Před 11 dny +1

      @@gabrielkopp2036 they chose to, just like Honda stopped making the xr400r just dumb decisions.

  • @mattingray5651
    @mattingray5651 Před 11 dny

    From business perspective, updating WR250 would not make any sense. It is a very small niche market since only very tall people can ride it. Their road bikes or adv (such as Tenere) have larger audience, bigger market. That is where the money is.

    • @churchofbrap876
      @churchofbrap876 Před 7 dny

      The Tenere is even taller and heavier

    • @leeroykelly781
      @leeroykelly781 Před 5 dny

      They could make an “s” model with a lower seat height like Honda did with their crf300l.

  • @snupermoto723
    @snupermoto723 Před 11 dny

    Sorry to say it's likely not gonna happen mate, the dream is dead.