We Have To Talk About Phil Foden
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
- Phil Foden Has Been absolutely incredible for Manchester City this season. And while it's great that he's getting the credit he deserves, there are still some that are reluctant to admit how good he is. And I think I know why.
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Transcript and sources: footballiconic.com
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00:00 - Introduction
01:27 - The rise of Foden
03:57 - Is Phil Foden Overrated?
09:45 - The player of the year?
Background music:
@pinkxo (Prod Pink)
Producer: Tinashe Chipako
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One thing we can agree on is that Foden put those "Mount is better" argument to shame💀
Now the shove saka in. People always take him for granted where they should be thankful england have this pool of talent
Emphatically...
nobody with common sense ever thought mount or saka is better. They want to insert their player in the discussions just to pretend theyre on Fodens level
Tbf to Mount his form has fallen off a cliff, to the bottom of the ocean.... meanwhile Phoden just rises continually though.
At the time they played each other in the CL final, Mount genuinely was better. But now there is no competition, Mount has been a total letdown and Foden has thrived.
The truly iconic football channel
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Nah this man looking for side missions, what happened against CHELSEA Tinashe??!!🤣
Truly .
* the truly football iconic channel
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Who’s here after that banger at Bernabeu, what a talented player🔥🔥
Naw I knew he would be a quality player several years ago to be fair
Hes been a sensation since school always loved playing with Ronnie.
who is here after REALity set in?
I must say, Phil Foden is the best english player in the PL at least. Great work and amazing video.
After bukayo..
If u r the best player in the best league, aren't you then the best player
@@joshuajacob4317 not right now I think their talent is very even but Foden is on fire atm
He’s not even the best player on the England team muchless the best in the prem. I guess saka isn’t England’s player of the year for the last 2 years
imo there could be superstars in other major leagues that can contend with being best player without their league being the best league. Think of it like this:
A team can be the best team because of their team work, but the players themselves may not be the best, but a team may not have the best teamwork, but some players show insane individual performance that can carry the team up to a certain lvl
brother, Oscar Bobb is going to be a mainstay in our lineup for the next few years. and our academy has had more export power than any other in England. i think Pep is incredibly picky in what he wants for the squad but many clubs in the PL era also haven’t utilized their academy and i don’t think MCFC can be considered one of them
Bro mentioned Cole Palmer later on in the video like he didn't spend years in the City youth academy either...
@@tylersmith3533 Yeah you're right. I was talking mainly about Manchester born players. Should've mentioned Palmer though!
We are with you Jean from Accounting! Go get it girl!
we forgive you for not uploading last week, you dont have to keep pumping out videos for this week😭 quality content as always
Weird comment
I've been saying this for a while now. Phil Foden is already one of the best in the world.
The U17 WC was so memorable. Really glad I got to see him live. Seeing players like Foden perform really blew me away.
India?
Welbeck is 10 years older than Foden…
Welbeck?
@@VC-ps2vm yes
@@giteausuperstar mb I confused him with someone else, it was probably Hudson Odoi
Can’t put my finger on why this channel is so fulfilling to watch. Maybe the simplistic edits and calm voiceover? Just feels like speaking to a friend who shares your passion for football. Awesome job, keep doing what you doing my man!
5:30 and oscar Bobb just to mention. And i wouldn't say a bit of staying power , that's just a complete lowball , they're already destined long term projects for city. And Bobb recently signed a contract extension with the side
Guardiola and Southgate need to stop playing Foden as a winger. Foden is one of the best left side midfielders in the world
Pep did that after Mahrez left
@@Agent.K.nah, pep has always played Foden on the wings because we have KDB. Foden belongs in the midfield tho, that’s his best position.
@@SebastianDalhed Not Always. He plays him in the wings against teams that can counter us. We need more bodies doing the runners so we can't have our normal 3-2-4-1. Instead, Foden sticks to the wings with some degree of freedom of drifting inwards. It's all well managed. There is no reason to be complaining.
@@Agent.K.nahh, foden is the reason why sterling lost his place & wanted to leave. Then city buy grealish & move phil to the right
I doubt southgate would know how to use this generational talent
to answer ur question at the beginning, real madrid is the only other team that has had injuries like that and is still seem as a top top team in the world on current form
Largely thanks to referees and the underperformance of other teams in Laliga I would say tho.
@@user-ir8er1bh4q so they literally lost 2 points BECAUSE OF THE REFS while every other team around them is either performing about as well as you would expect or a team on a miracle run. barca has only lost to girona, real, and villareal in the league. girona is on a miracle run in the league but ultimately they dont have the talent to go all the way, atleti have been hemorrhaging depth for years and everyone else in the league has a chance like one every decade at best and it isnt this year for them. real madrid are DEEP. their midfield depth is bellingham, kroos, camavinga, tchouameni, modric and valverde. basically any of those players slots directly into ANY team in the world, most of them in multiple positions not only in the midfield. they r dead middle in the league for penalties won while averaging most shots, shots on target, pass completion %, touches in the attack 3rd & penalty area, and 2nd in possession. when u r that much better than everyone else the only way they can defend u most of the time is fouling u. look at the nba and how people guard Giannis and youll see this. If you think they r being helped by the refs bc they r first in fouls drawn and have committed the least fouls, it is more likely just because they are more skilled
And Liverpool too.
Liverpool
@@user-ir8er1bh4q well at least they didn't have to be 'bought out' to get to where they are now.
The first time he played for Man Cty's A team I turned to my son and said "Foden has looked the most dangerous player n this whole game"... and game after game he has been just that, the most dangerous player for Man City. He's a real talent, pretty humble, and has it all. He'll struggle to get the recognition he deserves while in a star studded Man City team. But he will win trophies - and it is his club from the very beginning.
Can we please have a dedicated video about Rodri.
I generally believe hes a contender for the Ballon d'or this year
lol
He should have been in the top 3 last season too. Absolutely vital to a treble winning side.
65 games unbeaten Mr Rodrigo played. Records nothing to him 😲😲
If he changes his hair, instant +50% fanbase boost for the guy.
I'm here after he scored that banger at Bernabeu 😭
honestly big credit to you, your my favourite football channel on this app. Another great video as usual
I am loving the frequent content. Keep it up!
mad respect for this coming from you
Love your videos so much! Especially the fact that you always stay objective and don‘t let your preferences of teams change your opinion
one of the few channels I watch from start to finish. love your content
Please make a video on Julian's underrated season so far🙏 🥺. Guy I think is like 5-7 in g/a away from Foden and in much less games and he's still not talked about. He scored or assisted in all but one of the games he was replacing Earling for, for 2 months and sure he's been unlucky in his last few matches, but he's really been performing in all of them. Unlike Halland( who, declaimer, I love), even when he's not scoring or assisting, you see his presence on the pitch. I feel he's really been under appreciated this season 😔
I don’t think julian fit in this pep system. He’s suited in the 9 position.. but with haaland there, there’s no where he gonna bench him
@@thecitizens4573 that's what is so unfortunate 😕 😔
im a city fan and no alvarez is meady
Hey, loved the video... I just need to say that this feels great. Foden has been really dear to me since he debuted, nowadays he's my favorite player and it's just awesome to see him becoming THE Man City guy. IDK, I'm proud of him, I guess.
He’s got a special energy on the ball. An intuitive confidence. Great all around player with an accurate left foot. Special talent.
Great video again @football iconic keep up the consistency. Foden is class to be honest
Your videos are amazing! Big weeks ahead. Keep the uploads coming, please?
It will be very interesting to see Foden's longevity in the future compared to other players who weren't rested as much and played from a very young age
Great video, you look very down to earth! Keep up going
Great vid but more importantly, congrats on hitting 300k subs
man you have really nice voice. very soothing🙌
I noticed that Foden is at 21 G/A in the league. Lampard's best non pen G/A was 28(2004/05). Foden has a chance(9 more games) to have a better season than the prime of one of the best midfielders in the EPL history in his debut season as a starter. Crazy!
Debut season ?? Were you just start watching football? Boy did not won YPOTY sitting on the bench.. he got benched last season, but that’s just pep style. Bernardo, sane , sterling, gundo, even aguero & rodri have all been there. Grealish this season. Only kdb a regular starter since pep came
If you do nothing but go by goals and assists, yes. The game is more complex than that.
But it won't count in terms of comparison since Foden did that as a forward not a midfielder
He is a midfielder playing as a forward@@MrLove717
@@MrLove717 Foden had all of his G/A playing in the middle. His dry games came when he played on the wing. Lampard played behind to strikers as well which is technically a forward's position but he is a midfielder.
For Liverpools player of the season, you have to add Mac Allister in. Hes been incredible
Honestly, most of Liverpool's players are doing well. Endo, Diaz and Nuñez are all doing really well too. Even Gomez is having a great season. But I don't expect him or Darwin to win it. Salah is good but not best of the best imo, so I would pick Van Dijk (who finally is the best defender in the world again) or MacAllister for Liverpool. But Phoden might win it too. We'll see. I am happy if Liverpool wins the league. All their players are appreciated by the fans either way
Great video, man ! I am French and more a fan of Liverpool, but i have to say each time i watch a play with Manchester i am stunned of how he is ridiculously so good, with and without the ball. Footballer of the year for me, no doubt about it.
"Manchester City has a stupid amoubt of depth". Might want to get your facts checked there; City has the smallest senior squad in all of the Premier League. We have players who can play a variety of positions, but we don't have many players per se.
Some of the most common sense commentary I've heard in a while...well researched, well considered too...massive fan mdara wangu😂😂
Great vid as always
This guy makes me enjoy football so much
Pls do a video on Alfredo Di Stefano I never see people talk enough about him in the Goat debate imo he is only behind Messi and Pele. The greatest signing in Madrid history and the reason why they are the club they are today. As well as the most complete player the game has ever seen. Yet not enough people mention him. The only winner of the Super Ballon d'or. And won 2 ballon d'ors and it lnly existed when he was past 30 Messi himself has only won 3 past the age of 30 he could easily won at least 4 Ballon d'or if it existed since he began playing the game.
I'd be more interested in the super team he was part before going to RM: River Plate from the 40's, known as "La Máquina". A team that was considered the very best of that decade worldwide.
This is particularly important since River is considered to have the best football's youth academy in Argentina, above other great ones like Argentinos Juniors (Mac Allister and Maradona, for example), Vélez Sarsfield (Otamendi, Simeone), Newell's Old Boys (Maxi Rodriguez, Scaloni), Rosario Central (Di María), Estudiantes (Verón), Independiente (Bochini, Dibu Martínez), and Racing Club (Diego Milito, Lautaro Martínez).
If di stefano played today he’d be equivalent to Marco Asensio.
Great video! ✨
Man City's depth is provided by Pep. He has players performing well, and effectively. Clearly, he instructs his players in a way that they not only understand what he expects but they believe they can and will deliver. TBH if he leaves that league, I'll feel sorry EPL. They truly don't deserve the extra european places earned by Italy and Germany. Liverpool minus Klopp and Salah is bad enough, but if city was to lose Pep too, it would be shambolic.
"England will lose in the most extravagant way possible" 😂 Well said!
And just like that you’ve earned yourself a subscriber 😅! Very nice video.
I love this channel. Like a lot.
Best channel on CZcams
Awesome job ❤
Great video !!!
I once read a football manga called "Ao Ashi". Now, the main team "Tokyo fc esperion youth academy" has a broken squad for being a youth club, with 4 players from their squad always being called up to play for japan's nationals, so for a high school team, they have about 5-6 potential candidates to pick from for nationals. While that is impressive, the players are called up in the middle of their high school league, leaving behind a team with 4 spots open, that were filled by these stupidly talented players. The coach then said that what makes a strong team, is when the substitutes are on the level as the main starting 11 as well. The team that mostly fits this in my mind, is Manchester city, and their great roster of top tier players
Great video! A lot of other channels either refuse to talk about City or just spend 10 minutes slandering them so thank you for actually breaking down Foden/City's season so far. Keep up the great work almost at 300k!!!
Such a unique player with a unique style and also humble.
Bro who writes your script it’s so easy to listen to you
Big up 👏🏾🇿🇦
A.I. all day...... aka Grammarly
It's been clear for years that Foden would mature into a great player. There's good reason Guardiola said Foden is the most talented young player he's worked with.
Last season Foden was great but still young and one of a super squad. This season his coming of age has taken another leap and he's becoming a talisman
this season hes been brilliant even playing in different positions he's crazy good the best player in the pl.
Here after that champions league banger
truly an iconic football moment right here
Jane from accounting goes hard 👏👏👏😂😂
There's a reason Agüero has been hilighting Phil's talent since he joined the first team, even called him "his Prince". Foden's also put a lot of work in, even getting a private sprinting coach to improve his acceleration a few seasons back. He's class and will be even better in years to come
My man uploads 2 top quality videos in just 2 days, pay some respect, truly iconic
calm down.
Been saying this myself for the last couple years. This dude is a talent.. he has no problem taking the back seat to the stars so to speak, but when needed always steps up big.. man city isnt my first team, but they are certainly a team I enjoy watching
Cant believe some people compared mason mount to this guy😂😂
They have players who developed quality but their actual squad is small compared to the other top 6. They may have some better players quality wise but not in quantity.
I think it's the face. People look at his face, decide they don't like him, and then start hating. I'm a City fan so i love the guy but that's my best guess.
Are you ok
@@tinsaederesse9173LMFAO😊
Maybe you don't like the face 😂😂😂😂
My favourite Airbus plane is the A380 due to its size and comfort. As someone whose flown on it multiple times with Emirates airline I'm still in awe of its different feel in the air. There seems to be no turbulence when in an A380
I feel like Foden in a different era (between 1992 - 2018) he would’ve been the most hyped English talent ever. But he’s taken somewhat for granted now.
mainly because he's done nothing for England.
@@kevinb9830 until southgate goes, or starts playing foden centrally instead of out wide, we won't see peak phil for england anytime soon
@@jedreznokyovic2103 That may be true but if you put Messi or Ronaldo in either position they would still be the best player on the pitch. I know those two are sort of in a class of their own but the same applies to many genuine world class players.
@kevinb9830 i mean you said it yourself, youre literally putting him in comparison with the best players of the past decade. Obviously he's nowhere near their prime level, no one is. But he's also not in his prime yet, and its not like he fails in those positions at city, he just doesnt shine as much. But my answer for his england form, gareth southgate, useless man.
@@jedreznokyovic2103 I think world class attacking mids would still be top performers in any position in the attacking third.
My friend used to say mount was better when i used to say he only statpads against Norwich and foden is clear. He's been real quite nowadays.
Need a video on cold palmer
Do you reckon you could make a video on athletic club (they just won the copa del rey in spain and could be interesting)Many thanks ❤
As a Real Madrid fan I’m terrified 🥶. Sure we look more promising than last year, city looks less dominant, and hearing that Walker will probably be out I was slightly reassured. But nevertheless Foden and Rodri will be a real problem and I hope Ancelotti has some tactic in store to preform better against city.
Yup, real will need to try and mark foden out of the game for both halves
Correction: City dont have depth instead we have high quality players. All 5 substitutes are world class players. After that its just academy players who are great too.
High quality is depth
Love the channel
10:18 was Mo Salah league champ ‘21-‘22? 😋
Your voice is like melted butter, just thought you should know
As a 33 YO City fan who has seen us at utter shite live... this is a very very good video and I appreciate your videos.
It's that russian bolt cut he's rocking. My man wants to black but look like a teenage Dimitri.
Tf you mean dawg
@@icyikon4154he’s just trying to say white people can’t have haircuts that black people get.
It’s just casual anti-white racism which is acceptable these days for some reason.
It's the haircut. Guaranteed
Best video about Foden for a long long time
Jane from Accounting was a legend.
I think he is easily the best player on the league this season. It's true his role has change on 2024 meaning he is more crucial in terms of being part of goals and assists. But nonetheless he is easily the best player of the premier ( in terms of the eye test not stats) this seaso along with Palmer who yes, half his goals are penalties (16 goals 8 penalties currently) but he is too crucial in terms of goals created for a horrendous Chelsea who might be stressing over relegation without him
What’s amazing is Man City aren’t even the biggest spenders! They’re so smart with their money.
yes myself a 16 year old arsenal fan am well aware of this Manchester city domination.
I AGREE SO MUCH
The thing that makes foden better than a lot of footballers is the fact that he takes the ball a lot farther in tight, tight places. He can drag the ball further up the field while still being surrounded by 4-5 ppl and just pass to a player who's free
Man city not replacing key players like mahrez and gundugan isn't really justified
they already have, phoden ,doku,alavrez heck even bob and lewis
they never have any shortage with players, let alone quality
You mentioned 5 players and none of them can replace gundogan or can even play the role, alvarez tried to put alvarez in that gundogan role and it didn't work
He tried to replace mahrez with foden on the right but foden isnt an out and out winger
And those two are almost irreplaceable
been saying this a long time. Exceptional footballer.
I'm not sure why the hate? chav hate?
hate happens when acceding towards the top, don't ever forget this......
Could you talk about Bernardo Silva? How does he compare? @Tinashe
phil is one of our own mate
He's in exceptional form but there's definitely several players in the league who you can make the case are better than Foden, although he certainly belongs in that debate by this point
Rodri could very well become one of the best defensive midfielders of all time. Van Dijk is more or less back to his pre injury best. De Bruyne is still De Bruyne even if he missed half the season. Salah isn't as exciting as he once was but he's still insanely consistent and his already underrated playmaking ability has gone up another level. Saliba and Gabriel have been world class defensively. Mac Allister and Rice have completely transformed their respective teams. There's other examples out there as well but all of those players have a very strong case going for them
Dont sleep on rico. Wherever he goes he will Definitely take the center midfielder position
Bro, can you please make another Manchester United video? it's always a hot topic when they're brilliantly lost. They're really good at delivering comedy content
Foden would be the star man of any other team. Even if he goes to Real, he'll be the main man, with Carlitto setting the team around him! It's crazy to think that England is gonna find a way to miss the Euro title again! I don't know how, but I know it will.
It hurts to say this as a United fan, but yes, Phil Foden us really really really good.
"There's so much talent there, I just know England are going to lose in a spectacular fashion." This line killed me, lol
3 videos in the span of a week? Christmas came early
ppl forgot that during haaland's greatest premier league match at old trafford, foden assist the goals and score 3 as well
Gut Video Mike e video about we is better ramos ar Madini❤
Please do a vid on Griezzzman😢
Hendeson, Mount and Phillips to start for England !
Strength in depth but they still miss one player who gave them the balance which makes great teams, Ilkay Gundogan. Players like this are very difficult to replace.
It's crazy how this guy delivers more world class content than his own club and still has less subscribers than man u petition for Football iconic to get to a mil before the end of the year
@footballiconic needs a FPL mini league
To see how good a player is you have to watch them at a football ground. I saw Phil foden last season away to notts forest and he was head and shoulders above everyone else.
I swear he does so well to anticipate the rebound from the initial shots by the attackers he supports