It's The Hope That Kills You
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- čas přidán 30. 04. 2024
- Manchester City have once again demolished Manchester United. It was a tough watch.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:00 - Good news for Man United
02:53 - Bad news for Man United
Background music:
@pinkxo (Prod Pink)
Producer: Tinashe Chipako
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This was supposed to be out yesterday. Apologies.
Yesterday it should be about the refferee, who cares about blood money fc
Blud I feel ur pain and disappointment. I had midsemister exams on Monday and watched this match to cheer the lads on. I don't recommend atall
unsibscribibg how dare you not uplaod at the EXACT date!!!
Blud thinks we desperately wait for your videos😏
Booooo! I was so excited knowing you were going to post this yesterday :((( still good video today so forgiven i guesd
“I’m not mad”
-a man who is SEETHING
I’m an arsenal fan and city is pissing me off I’d be seething too
It’s crazy if you told a United fan like 15 years ago their cross city rivals would dominate for years to come everyone would laugh at you
Fergie left a squad that wasn’t fit for purpose and they’ve never recovered.
@@olliemac32
To be fair, he was retiring. Meaning it is no longer his job. Weird how you expected him to do the next managers job for him.
Even if he did some transfers or whatever you wanted, the next manager might have disagreed. Did you want SAF to buy players he wouldn't be coaching? Weird thinking all round really.
@@jordan_roadhouse4798or maybe he foresee what will City will be. With this, he retired and didn't want to be in a rebuild just like in 2003 to 2006.
@@llbuitreYeah this could be true 😮
@@llbuitrehe was 70+
I expected 6-0 so a 3-1 loss is a win to me
Same here
Same here but it's still not fun
That’s sad😂
You're pathetic 😂
Damn this is how it feels to be a utd fan this is sad ...
The only thing that hurts me more than seeing Tenashe being a Man Utd fan is being a Man Utd fan myself
It could be worse, you could support Sheffield United like me…
Sheffield was never that team
We were
So it hurts way more @@christopherludlam1602
@@christopherludlam1602 sorry bruh
@@christopherludlam1602chelsea worst bro trust😂😂😅
I admire the fact you use your pain for our enjoyment! 😂😂
The state of the Man United club still has more in common with the side from the 80s that was mid table and needed years to get back to being a force in football than the side that was still winning major trophies in the 2000s and early 2010s
most MU fans conveniently ignore pre 1980
@@eavyeavy2864 most MU fans ignore the fact that their History is basically 1 coach... Alex.
That is their whole era, their whole history.
No alex, no MU.. simple.
Mark Goldbridge calling for a cheat ref on his live stream was hilarious.
Anything for clicks😂
He has to be delusional and call city 'cheats' always to get clicks, also when city lose (one game in many lol) he often says it's a crisis. Just hilarious
@@TheBenson51ur joking right mate
@@TheBenson51
You have a bad argument. You’re basically a gatekeeper.
Best football channel out there
Second best, after Balon English
FAX
That Ian Wright reference is dusting me 😭
It really blows my mind how more or less every single signing United have made, has been a player who came in a world class talent and became a jabroni within a few months. What did this club do to have this many players have their careers die at this club.
Not just players but managers too lol
I think the food in the united half of the city gets all their skill sucked out and sent to the other side of the city
I feel for Amrabat, he really shouldn't have come to play for United, because before then he was doing decently well with Fiorentina, but ever since he's come to United, his performances have gone downhill.
@@anonracer95same could be said for onana, maguire, sancho, martial, varane, and antony (he was never world class but was atleast doing something at ajax)
You keep using that word jabaroni, and it’s awesome
Yo....that Ian Wright clip killed me😂😂
Me too, man ...even though I couldn't hear what Ian Wright say...
@@kimbuoy1ppp
watching your videos are the best part of my day good work
Love this channel.... as a United fan, I find it both soothing and cathartic that someone else understands my rage, sorrow, and resignation!
Mr. Tinashe. I have been meaning to write that for a quite a while, but I have to insist, your voice, your tone, your poise, your wit, your rythm... I could go on. Such a class act. I admire your work. Big fan from Montreal.
"this year, we dinally look like a team" Bruno Fernandez
😂😂
As a United fan, idk if this will ever end.
Well we do have people in the club now that want to see us win and they're building a proper structure too but it will still take 2 - 3 years minimum to get anywhere near Man City and it still won't be close enough. Thanks Glazers, you parasites!
@@mikester489610 years minimum
Do not put your hope in men, they are treacherous.
all big clubs have their ups and downs
you need to stick for the ride and soon you will be rewarded
I feel like Onana had the most touched on the ball that entire match.
He was second behind Dalot...
City players were playing touch and go with dalot😭😂@@L1terally_Me
Its absoloutely refreshing watching your videos as your hinest realistic and objective instead of being indenial and stuck in the past keeo doing what your doing mate.
Learn English
@@Its_not_could_of make me
@@Hyster1aMcR No. Do it to improve yourself.
Or continue being a moron to spite me.
Your call ✌️
Good video Mike e video about David Tressege 😊❤
Be grateful that now and again someone comes along and changes how the game is played.
Most clubs are taking it onboard.
Tip your hat to Cruyff's genius tweaked by Pep and look forward to the next football Messiah whoever they may be.
Rodri is such a good midfielder. To me he was the rightful winner of the Ballon D'Or last year
crazy
well the balon dor is stats and impact to team. if it wasnt for the world cup rodri is def 3rd (behind kdb and haaland}
He plays dirty. Talented footballer, but bad personality.
@@rakkowakko4921 If he's dirty what would you call Casemiro lol
@@rakkowakko4921 he’s just physical 😭😭 it’s a part of the game but he’s top class
I look forward to watching these videos as much as I look forward to watching the actual Derbys 😂😂😂
It hurt alot. Expecially after the lead ❤
Hey Tinashe, i just want to thank you for kepping me entertained for three years now. Your content never gets old. You are what i call “EN FED GOAT” in english “A FAT G.O.A.T” haha Love From Copenhagen❤
Just started the video but the title kills me😂..Will get back to you..Well don't know about the positives in united but ramus højlund has found some consistency.. He has been playing extremely well since the turn of the year..Might want to look at that..Also bellingham,saka,foden,palmer,grealish.. Who'll start for England at the euros? Harry kane up top..What kind of team have they got??? Also if jamal musiala hadn't switched nationalities what would he play? Lol just fun to think about these things..Great video as always 👍
He would play on the bench like Foden while we have rice, Kalvin Phillips and Henderson in the midfield
BRO WHERE IS MALACIA💀 man utd have not talked or even posted about him in soooo long bruh. we don’t even know if he’s still injured.
I'm a united fan but the 'he did it again' meme had me howling 😂😂😂😂😂
Meme references are the best part of these videos
love ur vids
If I were a united fan I would be embarrassed, I mean even bournemouth tried, but we are talking about manchester united, you can't expect to not concede being over 90 minutes in your penalty area, because in the few moments you have the ball you have to be clinical and it's not easy at all. Coaches always say it's worse when a striker doesn't have chances and scores a goal than having one that has many and maybe scores 1 out 8 shots, because it means they are involved in the game (I hope I explain it decently. I think rashford had too much backlash from this game, he scored and multiple times he tracked back, you can't expect him to turn everything in to gold especially if in the counter (a unorganized counter like you said) you let him alone. I think conte might be the right choice he could give a bit of athleticism and discipline. United has to rebuild everything from the ground. That said really appreciate your videos and your objectivity
Unpopular opinion: Man utd back line is actually pretty under rated. United has faced the 2nd most shots in the league, scored the same amount of goals as luton who sits 18th. The only reason utd aren't bottom half is because of the back line
If we had Martinez and Varane starting the whole season without their injuries, Man United would have been better off in the table.
@@caynehampton1878maybe, but it doesnt help that the attackers cant seem to find the net, even against Luton.
isn't facing a lot of shots evidence to say the back line is not good? i mean, their purpose is to prevent shots being taken, after all.
@@brzt4256 statistics can sometimes be misleading. Say if you faced an opponent whose majority of their shots came from outside the box, it'd contribute to the numbers too.
But I get what youre saying though. And as someone who's seen most of Man Utd's matches for as long as i can remember, the defence is just straight up trash at times.
This match especially they had the defensive solidity of a wet paper towel during almost the entire match. Shots (not blocked or on target) is a pretty trash stat in general in my opinion
It wasn't a dive by Rashford but he did actively decide to fall over instead of trying to score.
Maybe he was trying to play the injury card?
@@bloodyacegaming771 Just wanted a cheap(ish) FK. It's given most of the time, hardly something to be doing in such a high stakes match tho.
@@bloodyacegaming771Very well could have been, yeah.
R9 phenomenon video Tinashe
Your defence is terrified....... Rodir's on fireeeeee🔥🔥🔥💙
On a positive note, Utd looked like Arsenal for a while there.
Shame about the remaining 87mins plus stoppage.
Fantastic watch as always 👊🏿🙏🏿
As a city fan I have to say I appreciate the objective view on one's own club giving the good and bad as it is. Absolutely gained my respect and subscription for that. Great video brother
Good video👍🏽
Hi Tenashe, I'm a Man City fan. Funny enough, I was scared we would drop points like we did against chelsea.
Man united scoring first hurt me a lot. 😂
Man after what he's been through with Barca past 4 years, Frenkie De Jong deserves better than what United are rn.
Do a video on possible utd transfers in the summer after team overhaul, would really like to see your approach
Im a lifelong Arsenal fan and have looked at United with disdain for that entire period. When City came along and used massive financial doping to engineer a dynasty that has now lasted longer than a decade, it changed how I viewed United and Liverpool. One thing I will suggest to you as United fans is to not take the easy road, don’t beg for a Qatari takeover and try to rehash what the Emiratis have done with City. Take the road less traveled, innovate, reinvent. Lean on your identity and legacy as a club. This house of cards City has built will collapse soon enough, and only clubs with strong foundations will be left.
City hater located. Go Blues
9:15 more experience, yes…but calmer!?! Have you not seen the ice oozing from Kobbie’s veins?!
3:34 😂 that meme never gets old 😂
7:01 The Lee Judges meme😂😂
The thing with style of play is he needs the players and yes he’s had some signings but key ones like Martinez have been injured and he didn’t get a centre back last transfer window so he is stuck playing players such as evans and Maguire who are okay but can’t play the type of football he wants to play
new stadium will be a huge improvement to the quality of playing im certain. they definitely needed it as the old one despite it being legendary it hasnt felt like winning
i speak for everybody Nobody and i repeat NOBODY wants to see them back to their best mate.😊
Their “fans” were all glory hunters when they picked their team 😂
So are the fans of every major club. Arsenal, city , liverpool, Madrid etc
@@balachandranav5995 lfc were not great from 2006 to 2019.
And they didn’t win the League for 30 years until they finally won this
I would like to say something about ETH is that this season we’ve had so many injuries we haven’t had a consistent first team this season at all like 12 different centre back pairings. I think it’s tough that this season to say there should be some consistent play
If you spend a billion quid in the transfer market, injuries shouldn’t be a problem
While i agree with that if you spend that much money you should have plenty of options available, united have always overpaid so a billion spent for united does not get you the same amount as other clubs 😅 @@alexthomas2067
Liverpool’s injuries and loss of key players to international duty has been far worse
@@punchgod aggree. Liverpool's injury list has been the worst I have ever seen since the season after we won the Premier League. Yet, Liverpool are 19 points ahead of united, have a +39 goal difference against United's -2, and have been fielding academy players for the better part of the last month and a bit, and not by choice either. Seriously, even the injured Liverpool players would have given a better showing if they were playing, with their injuries, for United. I am a Liverpool Supporter, but seeing United THIS bad, is atrocious, embarassing!!
This is without doubt the best football channel, and one of the best "shows" in general.
Such a breath of fresh air to see someone else who's barely biased and just loves the sport, respects the sport, the teams and its player. Shows your overall intelligence and nuance, which is incredibly rare in the sports fandom.
Love the chill vibes and analytical format also. Fucking amazing. Cheers Geoff.
"Why do you always look like this? Please relax". The fact that he can't relax is one of the reasons why he holds the points record in all leagues he has coached in.
He was once asked recently what still drives him and he simple said it was _fear._ He said that he's constantly afraid of failing. Always.
And he clearly transmits that to his teams who buy into it, which is why they always work hard and give 100% against anyone and don't leave any room for error.
When he praises other teams in the bottom half of the table for "how good they are" and points out all the things they do well, he isn't belittling those teams or saying it for the camera.
That's what he drills into the players days on end before the game, showing the team countless clips of the oppositions goals and in what situations they are dangerous and how they have to stop those situations at all cost etc.
City only roll over everyone and make it look easy bc they are not only much better but _also_ work and try as hard as any football team possibly could.
Liverpool, who are currently in first place, were losing at half time against relegation candidate Luton. "Of course" they went on to win it with a relatively comfortable looking score line of 3-1 but they didn't turn that game by leaning back and thinking: "Don't worry about it. We're Liverpool. We're just better". Of course not - they worked their socks off.
Just because some teams in the _first division_ aren't as good or as consistent as the very best teams doesn't mean they are amateur teams. They can hurt the best teams, if the best teams don't actually perform to their standards - which takes effort, concentration and discipline.
After City went through past Copenhagen yesterday, Pep said that he was happy about reaching Quarters and proud of the team.
When a journalist pointed out that - despite the achievement - Pep must know that people will brush it off and say "It's just Copenhagen. Who cares", Pep answered: "You're right. Last season, when we played Leipzig in the Ro16, people were saying: 'Oh. It's just Leipzig. It's so easy'. But now when other teams (Real Madrid) have to play against Leipzig, it's suddenly not so easy."
Expecting the better team to win is one thing. Acting like it doesn't even require effort or an actual good performance by the better team to win is just very naive or facetious.
Pep - in his obsessive nature - is always expecting the worst case scenario, always expecting his opponents to have the best game of their season and always makes sure that his players take every opponent just as seriously as he does.
after 34 years... I gave up on this team, and this feeling is killing me
As a city fans im not expecting wins against Arsenal or Liverpool. We've been winning recently but it's been unconvincing
Describing this 1-3 loss against Man City as an "Major setback" is pure irony at the least :D
U dont really want to tell me, that you or anyone else expected anything different, right?
Love ur videos, keep going, ill support u as good as I can!
Tinashe is always a class act in every video
"Red Letter Day, Scott McTominay" was the last time I felt joy in a derby. Forget the Rashford winner last year, that McTominay goal was far more iconic.
I feel your pain. But this year I'm just gonna be glad if United reaches European football, to be honest.
I am enjoying more the fight for the title than to be interested in United getting somewhere or not.
Yeah, Pep always looks worried before and during a game.
I only watched the highlights and that Man City third goal says it all, Man cities team were in Man U's half pressing like crazy as if they were the ones losing 2-1.
The teams are miles apart it's not even close, this could have easily ended 5,6,7,8-1.
Me and my mate were drunk the whole match. Thank God.
How i missed these ManU videos.
“Stockport Lionel Messi” had me cackling
that frenkie dejong point reminds me of when united fans thought onana was the signing they need to become champions of europe again
I’m not expecting anything anymore, just watching with a sense of apathy, maybe someday we’ll rise again..
I got a midroll ad 1:36 into the video after getting an unskippable before the video started. CZcams is ruining its own platform
I knew we were going to lose, I have no hope for this current team but I do have hope for our future. We just have to eat shit for the next couple of years until we can put together a strong and cohesive team with depth.
If I had a CZcams channel about football it would probably be full of videos me venting about Manchester united too
I think we just have to accept there needs to be an overhaul if we ever want to compete again, as of now I'm Ten Hag in, but top 4 is a must next season and selling players is a must, the likes of Antony and Sancho need to leave for a starters, if we are lucky we might get 40 million for both
Main issue is that enough of the players he uses have been his targets and are now at the club. Second issue. United can't flog the players they want to get rid of. Contracts are so huge that even when expired people don't snap up the players as the negociating positions are poles appart. The fact De Gea (33) isn't playing for anyone even if he isn't a sweeper keeper says everything about the money he was on and that nothing has tempted him back in the game when he has years left on his career and is still an excellent keeper. Will take something special to retool United as there seems to be some poor personality traits as the dominant spirit for the group of players at the club. Has been that way since Jose really, maybe even under Louis.
@gm2407 I'm hoping they go the arsenal route and get rid of the overpaid players over time even if it means running their contracts down
@@jasonmillsom2981 I don't think we can view more than a 5 year horizon for Sir Jim decision making due to his age. Any more is very optimistic. Hope his appointments work out well as they need to overcome future Glazer screw ups if Sir Jim is incapacitated. United need to be win now with Sir Jim.
@@gm2407 that's not happening, it's going to take probably 3 years till we are finally competitive again
@@jasonmillsom2981 Probably. I just mean it is unlikely to go longer than 3-5 years.
Marcus Rashford is the only player that loses all of his confidence after scoring a banger
You’ll be okay man 😂❤️
ManUr´s defeat vs. Fulham was much more damaging for them. Rashford goal was 2nd time you ManUr´s had the ball on Man$audi´s half for more than one touch in a row. Oh, and Onana started well, which was the 2nd biggest surprise of the game after Rashford scoring a screamer (not in general, but in THIS moment). Anyway, there is a question: Liverpool had a 30-year break in winning the top division of English football, whatever it´s name have been, will it take over 30 years from the last title of ManUr´s to win the EPL next time, if ever?
300 k soon bro, we celebrate sadly together. We face Liverpool soon.......
Man u had a pretty good surgery the first half and their counters were pretty good. But it was tough to maintain for 90 minutes.
Most sensible UTD fan I've ever seen
I had hope until those the two misses from rashford going into the second I just braced for impact
I would say that united didn't look great but they could've definitely played worse. I heard a lot of 6-0 predictions for City so losing 3-1 wasn't so bad in my eyes. Lot of improvement as man city should've had more but is what it is.
United need to gut this squad. Injuries have been an issue all season but too many times we've seen basic mistakes. I would like to see Ten Hag stay, it's clear he's trying to build something. If INEOS decided to pull the trigger on him I'd understand it. When United lose to Liverpool in the cup I think his fate will be decided potentially when there really is nothing to play for.
Bruv, are you using an AI version of your own voice for this? Why does it sound so robotic in the intro part of the video?
So many thoughts. I am a Man UTD fan, despite trying to change allegiances recently I've discovered that it is true, you really can't. And I found myself watching City play, you know, as if they were my club. I recognized the possession difference but when you see the numbers on paper, OMG. At about 94' I thought, just blow the whistle and call it already. Rashford's goal gave a glimmer of hope, I thought, hey maybe. But no. Side note, I noticed recently how interesting it is that two young star players came into the club as hot players but left in such poor form and seemingly quite defeated (Jadon Sancho and Donny VDB of course). How does that happen?
Fun Fact
The River Mersey starts in Stockport
united is feeling what we spurs fans have been feeling for decades upon decades of mediocrity. so refreshing to see.
you deserve better bro
Okay but would you rather city or Liverpool to dominate the prem
It was still a fun match tho. Im not a fan of either but it didn’t really look like United were playing terribly, it was just City scored some nice goals. Also the opening goal form Rashford and the equalizer from Foden were certified bangers🔥. Plus Foden brace was cool, and its reliving to see Harland is actually capable of missing an open net 😅.
*Haaland sorry about that
As painful as it is but United is no longer a top 4 premier league team, it’s just the history that keeps us deluded that we are still great 🥲, I’m ready for massive changes during the summer.
"This isn't a dive" and shows the clearest dive in premier league's history
So when Ralf said we need open heart surgery everyone was on him like he doesn't know football but here we are now years later and what he said still runs true. Jose, CR7 and Ralf knew exactly what they were saying 🙄
It's just annoying to see the way United fans bicker like little children about Rahaford. The only pleyer that actually put the ball behind the net at the derby (an impressive world class goal by all standards)
Yet you'll see comments like, he scored then went back to his shell,
Where was Ganacho, Bruno, lord Scot, almighty Antony and the rest of the team, dead useless that's where.
It's shameful to see these comments. The dude, put in a shift despite his injury. The clubs does this thing where it constantly looks for someone, something and and some entity to throw under the bus when things don't go our way.
The entire team is BAD, enough with blaming players, I can understand criticism when someone does poorly, but when everyone is equally bad and a player despite injuires puts in the only goal and still gets this much bad month. Then you know it's more just petty bickering at this point.
Today is the day, when 5 years ago Erik Ten Hag's Ajax beat FUCKING REAL MADRID in SANTIAGO BERNABEU! THE TEAM FRESH OFF THEIR UCL TRIPLE in past 3 seasons with 4 UCLS in 5 years. The same AJAX team went onto beat Ronaldo's Juventus in their home too and they would have nearly qualified for final if not for Lucas Mouras' heroics in last minutes (or seconds) of 2nd leg UCL semi-final. It was the team of same Ten Hag who was not even shy of putting CR7 on bench. But his reluctance to change his failed tactics and the fucking terrible away record he has with united(25 plus matches against PL TOP 10, only 1 win........BRUH) is really changing my feelings about him. We have good stints only when we have a goal scorer in red hot form. I do acknowledge the positives he has brought tho. Maguire's redemption arc, Onana in domestic games, Lisandro Martinez, Rasmus Hojlund and maybe more which is surely not good enough rn. With lack of options in manager market, I would give him 1 more year if I was in charge. Let's see how things turn out. But maybe I am a tad bit too optimistic, but I personally feel United are destined to be on top eventually. I have believe in Sir Jim.
I'm a Gooner and always thought the anti-Rashford sentiment was garbage. Per season, he should be having 20+ goal contributions across all competitions. But the management, tactics and roster situations have been subpar his entire career. His conduct has not been perfect, but he ends up being a scapegoat for greater dysfunction at the club.
It never ends; we own you
Can you make a video on Arsenal? We’re flying atm
2:06 About Omar, he was only responsible for making the deal at City, not for identifying talent. So just hope that the other people coming to United are good at identifying talent because he ain't it.
4:15 It wasn't a foul! The "clip" was barely noticeable. He dived and continued whining instead of helping his team which led to a goal.
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I'm scared as a Liv supporter as Arsenal and City are on top form and we are only getting players back from injury.
I think I'd cut ETH some slack tbh. I don't think he handled the Sancho situation well, but is the Anthony drama in any way his fault? I'd say not. Is there anything he could do to improve Rashford's form? Not really. Ultimately, he's gone the same way as Solskjaer, turning to the solid McTominay because his more talented players show such indifference to losing.
When I was a kid, United won the treble. That season, they averaged just over 2 points a game. That's what it took back then. Look at the league now. Villa have just over 2 points a game & they're more in contention for 4th place than for the 1st place. The PL's become like the Bundesliga - the only way anyone can deny City is by having a truly exceptional season, like basically going unbeaten.
If the test for a United manager is whether they're good enough to beat Pep for a league title, I'm not convinced ETH is the right guy. If the test is simply to make progress, I think he needs to improve his man-management. And I know enough about the Dutch to know that emotional intelligence is not their strong point.
Both Klopp and Arteta failed a lot before they succeeded tbf. Great video btw!
Actually didn't even care about this game, we have injuries to literally every signing we've made except Casemiro. We knew we would've lost, but it was much close than that, the chances they had was because of our mistakes and nothing else, everything else were their boredom tactics which makes the game feel dire and inconsequential
Not surprised, I had initial hope that we would try vs Man City, but like always vs elite sides (Man City, Liverpool, and Arsenal), we throw it away, with poor performances from our overpaid stars, who do not show up in these big matches, and do not have the elite mentality that is needed for wearing the Man United shirt. Man United are still a legendary club that you cannot deny our legacy and it will take years to rebuild properly with a new board, squad of players (keep Mainoo, Garnacho, Hojlund, Martinez, Dalot, and Bruno), and “maybe” a new manager.
Stay patient united fans