I agree so much that we should allow them to take the time to decompress after military service. We want them back so much, but let’s put themselves first. We owe them that.
V said to Suga he wants to go away for a few days with the members and no cameras. I think that is the wisest thing they could do. I’m sure they have a lot of their comeback already planned but personally they should spend a few days reconnecting.
Yes pls do another video showing Jimin's emphatic communication style. Jimin is such a good listener and knows exactly what to say or respond to RM. Btw, love your reaction and explanation to this minimoni video.
I always felt that Jimin's empathy, emotional maturity and tactile nature helped the members to be open and connect with each other, like an invisible, emotional glue. They all have their different roles and compliment each other perfectly. 🥰 I agree that they should pause when they reunite. They talked about travelling together again. I hope they will.
i'll never forget the clip of MiniMoni sitting together outside-- RM was so stressed + anxious about their upcoming events/projects while JM comforted and reassured him. what always gets me is when RM says "it's all going to be okay, right?" in such a vulnerable and childlike way, while also getting choked up. he's not just a leader, he's also just a human being who struggles w the pressure of his position. def seems like JM is someone he goes to when he's feeling insecure, worried, overwhelmed, or in need of comfort + validation. (actually RM himself even said a version of that, too.)
Is this an interview or article or a book that is being reviewed? I’m so enthralled with the subjects that I missed (even after watching this video several times) where to find the original content.
9:42 "RM's leadership is underappreciated" - FACTS 🙌 10:05 Namjoon in sunglasses 😎 is a feast for the eyes 😍🥵 I liked the MMM episode so much. Minimoni always share these *deep* conversations, I knew I'd get super enlightened. Do you guys remember the telepathy Run episode when the 2 of them visited the park they used to practice their dance routines and hang out and write lyrics, while encouraging one another that they'd MAKE IT one day? They sounded so nostalgic while reminiscing. I got the same vibe with this music exchange. This album was such a stress reliever for RM, a therapy of sorts. And I'm glad he got to do it *on his own terms* , making it more authentic. You can feel it in the lyrics. Jimin was the BEST person to have this exchange with. He is so so receptive to people's emotional well being and always gives the appropriate support to all members. It however makes me worry about who's there for JIMIN?🤔 Who "sees" him like he sees others? Who connects with him most at an emotional and intellectual level and he can easily confide in? Jimin might be the most compassionate, most affectionate & most supportive to all members BUT I've also noticed (my own personal observation) that he doesn't or rather *rarely* allows himself to be vulnerable in front of the members. He somehow feels the need to be the strong one and not weak/ needing help. I think the day he shaved his head for military and came on Live is the most emotionally vulnerable/ 'naked' I'd ever seen him. Who knows, maybe in the next MMM he will also open up in a deeper way to RM.
Agreed. Jimin when in doubt insolates himself alone , so he can go trough his own thoughts and find tge way out. He is not a person knocking doors asking for support . He tells others about his strugles once tgey are already in his past. That way he shows respect and again empathy toward otgers by not confusing them while he is confused. I cannot stop admiroring his character and emotional maturity( not to mention his talent and hard work). All members delivered a lot to each other but Jimin stands appart - what a personality he has!
I think going into the military has had a profound effect on them all. Jungkook and RM seemed to be the most affected when Jin first left . I think they all would have been but it affected them more. Jungkook lost his shield the person who protected him the most and gave him confidence and allowed him to grow up at the right pace. RM had always said he needed Jin by his side especially in interviews. I think Jin being a calm and reliable character helped him in these times and he once said that his days were not good if Jin was not there. We know they are best friends as well as their families being close, so I think the bond between them is strong. He was in a sense his wing man not only in dancing but in his role as a leader. I have always felt that Jimin and Jin are the two that have the greatest empathy in talking seriously to the other members about things that concern them or their thoughts. This conversation between Jimin and Namjoon reminded me of the conversation between Yoongi and Jin when they were ‘In the Soop’. Both are empathetic and give good advice and are encouraging to others. Jimin shows this openly and Jin as usual silently behind the scenes. I think you are right in saying that Jin’s role in the band was important. J Hope once described him as the pillar of BTS and without them they would not have succeeded. I think Yoongi was the one that described him as the glue that held them together. To me he has been the silent leader of the group that Namjoon relied on a lot. There is no denying that Namjoon had the weight of the world on his shoulders and I think he survived because his hyungs were the type of people that understood this and gave him as much support as they could. With their global fame the pressure on Namjoon was immense and I think his time in the military will give him the opportunity to reflect on everything more and come out stronger, as I daresay they all will. There is a reason he is lauded as the best leader because he is, it has taken a strong person to cope with that pressure and although it has taken his toll on him, I think one day he will appreciate his great influence on people and the music industry and realise that as hard as it was, there was a purpose to it all.
I agree with everything you say here. I am really glad RM did this album before going into the military. It seems to be similar to Suga walking through the Amygdala door. RM looks so much more relaxed in the military photos he has shared. I think he cut a deal to do nothing while there - no special jobs, no instructor duty - someone who is so physically and intellectually capable and who won a training camp award is playing in the band as his job? I think it is the perfect situation for him.
I’m sorry but did you forget there are seven members I’m reading your thoughts yes they are yours but how can you leave out a member they each as individuals have strong roles within the group dynamics individual strengths and your blantent lack of respect for each of them shows how deeply you have missed BTS ethos and how they are too each other value every member
@@beccaboowoos2122 How dare you make that assumption because I failed to mention one member. Are you saying we cannot make a comment on anything without mentioning all the members! Because I never mentioned one member I am suddenly a terrible person and don’t follow BTS’s ethos! That thinking is beyond me. The author also only mentioned six members by name are you also telling her that she does not follow BTS ethos? The topic was Namjoon and Jimin which I was commenting on and mentioned JK as it was relevant to my comment. I mentioned Jin and Yoongi again relevant to my comment in comparing Jin and Jimin’s empathetic personalities. I mentioned comments that J Hope and Yoongi had made about Jin, again relevant to the post and my comments. The only one I did not mention was Tae because I had nothing of relevance to say about him considering the topic and my comments, not that I value him or his contribution any less than any of the other members. I will continue to write my posts as I wish and as my right and will not be dictated to by someone who judges me without even knowing me. I have posted many posts about Tae and my admiration for him and other members again without mentioning all of the members and had no one attack me because I did not mention all of them! It is all to do with the relevance of the topic and what I am commenting about and I may not always mention all the members in any one post and if that offends you shall I suggest you do not read my comments in the future.
“He sounds like a professional therapist”…that’s what a psychologist said - except I think he said he sounds like a psychologist - when he watched Jimin in another interview with Joonie. He EQ is genius level, a true empath and a literal Angel! Jimin really understands Joonie and Joonie knows it, so he feels safe talking about himself on a deeper level. MiniMoni have a very special connection - intellectually AND emotionally as close brothers.
I said already that I disagree about jimin being an empath. On that I'm not insulting him. psychologists skew the meaning of empath into someone who is sympathetic, which Jimin is, and he's nurturing. Empaths can actually feel other people's feelings, but that gets into an unscientific area that the pschology people can't handle so Psychologists made up their own definition. Oddly enough when I asked google for a definition, it fished up the oxford dictionary and gave me a good definition, "a person with the paranormal ability to apprehend [feel] the mental or emotional state of another individual." Psychologists sidestepped a whole group of real people who really have the ability, which is totally f'd up. I just don't think Jimin could possibly fit the (real) oxford definition.
Thank you so very much for this video. I have to admit I cried tears of joy the whole time. You always perfectly put into words all of the reasons I love BTS and their relationship to each other and to us. 💜 Also, as a black woman in America I often feel I live 2 lives. Most of the time called code switching something I learned from my mother the way I present myself at work or honestly encountering anyone who are not my friends or family is very different than when I am at home or around loved ones. I work at a bank in customer service and have regular customers who always tell me I'm always pleasant never in a bad mood no matter what. And to be honest they never will. But THAT is not who i am nor the real me. It's of course number one being professional but the other lay to that is I actively feel the need to try and make people "comfortable " around me. It has been automatic most of my life. But now at 50 it feels exhausting and I rush home just to feel some peace. As a matter of fact BTS has brought me peace
I was in your shoes in banking. I’m your basic Caucasian woman, but worked in Private Banking and Investments. So many licenses, it is like I went back to college! I too wore two faces….making everyone comfortable and at ease, while inside feeling so much pressure to do so! Everyday when I got home from work, I could decompress with my menagerie of animals. My husband worked second shift and usually not home till midnight. We had a phone relationship until MS got the better of me and I had to retire! Now I don’t like talking to anyone but family and my husband does all the talking with any other phone calls that might need to be made, from making appointments to dealing with finances! He is retired now and we live a great life. We both have different interests, but we are absolutely best friends and I can’t imagine a life without him! I just had to comment because my double life was like yours!
Code switching is definitely a thing we do. It's funny tho the younger generations don't seem to know about it. I've decided in my career that I will be my true authentic self as much as I can. I still have to put on my professional hat at times, and that is fine, but I got tired of suppressing my personality. I am 49 (50 in Sept.). I just found BTS. It's so nice knowing other women that look like me love them too. 💜
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As much as RM mentioned, after watching his old videos, being totally on edge for 12+ years, I think he also finds it hard to give away control. Did you pick up when Jimin said if the member's ever questioned 'why' RM would just say 'this is how it is'. End of conversation. I think that could be why he mentioned sub-units, so the members can work together without him having to oversee every minute detail. Something invaluable that he has learned from the RPWP project. The members have now gained that solo experience and I am sure they will also will want to have more of an influence on everything that goes into tracks/albums/concepts/staging etc. And for me that is so exciting. That is one of the best things about BTS, you never know what you are going to get. Constantly changing and innovating. Real leaders in music.💜
I agree with you 100%, but there has been a time or two in the solo era when I missed RM’s touch to bring some class and sophistication 😊 just sayin’. I love these guys!
@@maryr1905 I get what you mean.🙂 My examples: Jack Harlow dumping his vulgar, clumsy rap on JK's '3D'😕; Lotto "skanking" it up on JK's 'Seven'😕. Both songs, if left SOLELY to JK's gorgeous vocals (minus the "other" version😒) were ruined by shoe-horning in crude Western sensibilities for the Western audience (I'm American, but no thanks). RM's touch would have kept those 2 songs sexy still, but classy.😏
That is not what Jimin said. AT ALL. RM doesn’t desire control, it is a sacrifice he has made (bc most of the members were not writers in the beginning, could not speak English) which has lead to him feeling lost in who he truly is. Jimin’s exact words: “He always felt a lot of pressure about the team and there were so many things HE WANTED TO DO FOR THE MEMBERS. He had so much to say to our fans, so thinking about that really stressed him out. He has great things to say and great ideas but if you start thinking abt what EVERYONE ELSE (not himself or the members) thinks it becomes so stressful. He may grumble, but if the members…..it’s the same with EVERYONE, but especially with him if he says ‘this is so’ and ANYONE says ‘WHY is that?’ then that person is crazy.” This is JIMIN’S thoughts, not something RM would say to them to force them into something.
@@bdfhvxz but that is the song that RM sang the most in his live... when 3d was released...RM wouldn't have done a thing abt the kind of music each member released...Understand RM is the one who watched pQ$n even before jk was an adult... the hyungs who used the f-word more than others .....
This video made me sad and happy. Sad to hear of the intense pressure that RM felt, but happy that he's grown so much that he can put into words how he felt and what he is feeling now. Jimin is such a precious soul. You've always been able to see the emphat in him. Please do a deeper look into it for us.😊 To see how these young men have grown and to hear the feelings they have had and have now is a pure blessing. But it was those hard times that have helped them learn and grow into such deep , wonderful , insightful young men. I feel that RM and Jin felt the most pressure and had the most on them. Jin really was a strong backbone for RM and the other guys. He could contain the chaos and keep it in line so to speak. These last 9 years of watching them grow, seeing them go out on their own and hold up to such demands they each faced, has been like a proud grandmother watching her grand kids grow!! That is what has been imprinted on my heart, that's is why they are so important to me. They have let us Army into so much of their lives, shown so much of their private selfs and shared so many feelings with us. They shared the good and clumsy part of it all. They will each be in my heart till I'm no longer here. 🫰💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
The way you talk about them with the fondness that we all feel gets me every time because you are speaking from a place of care and love. I was so impressed with the way Jimin and RM spoke together, I can see that it was a good fit for this intro to the album to ask Jimin to come listen and a chance for RM to have the supportive thoughts from someone in the group about this very honest and different from his previous work album. I can’t remember now what was said but I started to tear up at one point in the video with the two of them because it impressed me about the way they were talking to each other, (I’ll have to go back and watch again to remember), it really gave me a heartfelt feeling of the bands bond. They KNOW each other. And I was so glad that Jimin made sure that RM could come to them if he was feeling badly, I think they have done this so long that each of them can share his burden in their own way going forward. They know this business and what they have done for 10 years before, they can be his shoulder to lean on. This type of video makes me feel yet again that I know why I love them so much. This is DIFFERENT. You do not get this kind of thing until many years into their middle age when most artists are doing some looking back and reminiscing. They are still young (30 is still very young!) and to be able to let us in and see the person behind the mask is so beautiful.
*How not to empathize with Namjoon the "LEADER" of 6 guys in 2013 or with 6 adult men in 2025?* *He didn't have time to look for what he liked, what he wanted to do because he put his brain and heart at the service of BTS and with Jimin he manages to calm and understand his internal struggle.* *In 2025 there will be a new stage for all of them, it is a new path to take together but along the way there will always be the Army's to support and encourage them💜*
I knew at their Festa Dinner in 2022 that there was more in their Chapter 2 than just solo work. I never believed they were disbanding as they told us many times in that’s dinner they weren’t. I knew it was the military and that was why they were all so emotional, especially RM! He felt he was letting us all down by having to go to the military, which of course nobody thought that! I loved your thoughts on Jin. He was the glue that kept them all together! The is band of brothers has touched my heart (at 57 when I saw them first) from the moment I started listening to their music! I dove into everything I could find out about them, read all the lyrics of their songs, found them to be exceptionally brilliant men, all of h them, with their own strengths to the team! Also they are all so funny and goofy, which another part of their brilliance! They are so endearing to me, I think of them as my sons and can get quite emotional about it. I too hope they take some time after the military to decompress, write their thoughts, reconnect with their family and each other! I know that ARMY wants a tour in 2025, but we won’t get one! I’ll be happy if at Festa 2025, when they are all free citizens again, that they simply have a dinner and speak about their feelings! I’ll be happy if they are still close to each other and can talk about a future together as a group and maybe lay out dreams for 2026! No promises to tour or put out an album! They need time to find out who they are with each other again! This was a great video! Jimin is a gem! I would love another in-depth video of Jimin’s side of the conversation! I find his ability to be so empathetic just another piece in this group that keeps them all so grounded! They all seem to have their emotional parts in the group that helps bind them together and an in depth study of that could be taught in psychology classes around the world!
If you'll ask me to choose a group of friends that i want to have in this crazy world.. i will choose BTS in a heartbeat. Their bond is really hard to find. It's like it's already written in their destiny that they'll be together. And tbh if there's a life after this... i hope they'll still find each other and be the BTS that we know of.
V told Suga that he wanted to see the northern lights, Suga agreed that they should go after serving. Then they disagreed on whether to do it as BV or private. I feel that this is exactly what they will need - a chance to decompress from not only military but also the past 10yrs. - a chance to reconnect as a group/family. - a chance to decide(?) on the direction of BTS for the term of this contract. The members have not only grown in their Solo era, but would've matured in the military. RM will still be the leader of BTS, only now his burden will be drastically eased. 💜💜💜😄😄😄💜💜💜
Yes please do another video on JiMin's empathy. I think he is the most supportive member. Always being postivite, comforting, and just there for a hug when u need one. Everyone should have a Jimin around to help cope with all the stuff we all deal with. A kind, encouraging word and a hug from JiMin would always make me feel better. THANX
All of your videos are so thoughtful. Thanks for taking the time to do these videos. I really appreciate them. I would love for you to do more about empathic Jimin. Also, if you have time, please explore more about Jin. This is my opinion. I think may groups fail because they don’t have a Jin and Jimin in their group. I honestly think these two are the glue that held BTS together. This is no shade to the other members. However, when you have people as talented and focused as these 7 men, there are bound to be clashes of personality. If the clashes get to be too much, people may decide their life is better without the stresses and move on. Adding their high profile life just makes the stress more. As you stated, Jin grounds the group. Calms the personalities. In The Soop, Jin and Suga had a profound conversation that emphasized Jin’s role in the group. Even when we see JK getting energized, Jin is there to play and work the energy in a positive way. Jin steps in when RM is tired and shares a joke, make insightful comments or ensures everyone has an opportunity to speak. Jin is really an amazing person and I look forward to his return. On the other hand, Jimin is the listener who makes you feel heard and okay. All the members have stated they go to Jimin to speak when times are hard. To be able to release your inner most thoughts to a trusted person is beyond valuable. When 2025 comes, I think BTS will be pressured to go on tour as soon as possible. With the messy issues of Min Hee Jin, another new group being started in BigHit, Seventeen evolving with the military (not going on hiatus but members leaving for the military at different times), as Hybe still trying to grow, BTS will release an album and go on tour. However, I got the impression they will still do solo work. The vocal line doesn’t have enough songs to tour but Jhope may want to do a solo tour or at least a few festivals. Suga is a workaholic so I imagine he is spending his off time creating new music for his next album and possibly for BTS album.
Oh boy, I felt after Indigo that RM was not feeling right for this job with BtS. It broke my heart to think he was suffering with all this fame after only expecting a 7 year career as a normal K-pop artist. We cannot even imagine the pressure these young men encountered as their meteoric rise to stardom happened beyond their expectations. I’m sure they loved much of their success and adoration from the fans, but it seems like RM felt so out of place with it all, especially because he had to be the one to step up all the time to the media. This new album RPWT blasts forth with all his struggles and we can all hear it loud and clear. He needed this catharsis or he won’t be able to continue with BTS. Oh my we need him to be OK. As life goes along, I hope he will see his value and continue on his life’s journey being the person who inspires us and makes the music that helps us all live better lives.
Thank you for your great analysis, I met them in 2020, pandemic time, I'm 66 now, a teacher who had students their ages or so, and always thought how difficult it should have been for Namjoon the boy, trying to make everything perfectly accepted by the world, feeling that he could not show his weakness or make mistakes because they were under the big eye of society, ready to jump over them in any opportunity it could be possible. So, this minimoni music video was something to keep and watch every now and then. Jimin is the most emphatic boy in the group, they way he listened, turning his body to Nam with total attention, and sympathetic comments. I feel glad that finally RM the artist could throw up in this new album what Namjoonie the boy had inside. Surely he had much more.
Yes, BTS are one of the or the most empathetic people i have ever come across. And this was the main thing that attracted me towards them cause at first i couldn't stop but wonder how a group of 7 different people can have such a good bond and blood between them and it of course was because of how kind, understanding, gentle, hardworking, humourous humans with top tier humanity they are like a whole package like brahhh i just cant describe them in words... they have a very good balance and their love towards their fan and each other is just so pure. And Jimin as you put it perfectly, i agree has a very high EQ, he is an angel who is so humble and idk every word he speaks feels so sincere and genuine coming from his pure good heart like what byeee
I really loved this conversation between the two of them. Two things that really struck me, is RM stating that he is a “wrong” person, and Jimin’s heartbreak at that statement. The other is when Jimin told RM that he was gradually finding his own color, and the relief and gratitude that RM showed- like something made him feel a little lighter. I am honored to have been allowed to see that exchange, and RM showed real courage sharing it with us. What I see when they all come back is that they all will become more active in the group’s decisions, since they all have had time to grow on their own both creatively and with life experience apart from the other members. And yet, since they all went during the same timeframe, they will also be in a similar place and be on a more level field than before. Of course, there are still going to be the Hyung and maknae lines, but more from an adult mindset. I don’t think Jungkook will settle with just going along with everything now, andI also believe that RM will be willing to let go of some of the control. That worked in the past, but acknowledging changes in each other allows relationships to grow. I also agree that they will need to get used to each other again, and I really hope that they take that time. As a former military wife, it took time for my husband and me to get used to each other again after he got home from Iraq. Maybe a couple of weeks at most , since I didn’t have to be a single mom anymore , and he had to get used to just living as a husband and father again. I hope they stay healthy and safe, and really let them find and explore a different side to themselves. I am really looking forward to Chalter 2. 💜💜💜
Very good point. It will be hard but I think BTS will find a way to lift each other up while coming together again. I think this next era will be so rich & varied - & given their past amazing discography that is saying something.
I admire and am grateful that Namjoon was able to lay it all out in his music. I think some of the fans needed to know how he was really feeling and how he was struggling to cope. I wondered how he could cope being put on a pedestal and being made to be THE global Ambassador for so many important causes. I felt heartache for him before this. I am kind of glad he is occupied somewhere else so he doesn’t feel pressured to do something right now. It is out of his hands. I pray going forward he gets to have a more normal life off stage. They all need that.
It is ridiculous to me how underrated RM’s role in BTS is by general public and even at times ARMYs. People seem to forget just how young he was, ONE YEAR older than 2 members of the maknae line. That’s it. There are no words to describe what RM went through and the sacrifices he made for his members. I don’t know many people who would have the strength to do what he did. All of it, has been nothing short of a miracle, anyone who understands how the music industry operates and knows a little bit about art can see just how impressive RM is. I hope one day he realizes and acknowledges (even if just internally) everything and everyone he touched and helped during his life. How blessed we are to live in the same timeline as Kim Namjoon, as BTS.
I am constantly amazed by these seven men. Their artistry, maturity, grace, and love for each other are astounding. The universe was truly inspired when it brought these seven together. Through courageous grit and their bond for each other, they became a treasure to so many. It is known that diamonds are created by immense pressure. BTS is the most brilliant. May they realize that they are so dearly loved 💜
When it comes to Jimin's heart and compassion, I don't know of any other man who can even come close. He literally runs to the members when they're hurting. Some people just have the capacity to do that. We all need a Jimin in our lives. He seems so sad to me at times. I hope he has a "Jimin" in his life too. Someone who can comfort him.
He has very close friends…Sungwoon and Taemin especially. Both of them are his seniors who have walked in the same path as him and, incidentally, they are carbon copies of each other with regard to their personalities. I believe they have been a very big, support and comfort to him. We’ve seen, on more than one occasion, both speak highly of Jimin and with great affection, admiration and respect. That makes me feel good to know he has individuals like them in his close-knit circle.
@@nicolecmke True, but I feel that's probably because Jimin doesn't open up that much himself, as his dad seems very emotionally aware and soft, and would have been there for his son in a heartbeat. People like Jimin are natural givers and don't like to burden others, i know something about it myself 🥹
Since the solo work I’ve found that Jimin really seems to be the centre of BTS keeping them all together as a family (mother figure) as such. Obviously they are all active in their BTS team/family, but Jimin seems to be the one reaching out to all of the team. He was the one attending all their solo commitments, providing support and gifts. Previously I’ve thought RM being the leader or Jin being the oldest or JHope being the mood maker may have been the centre of BTS, so I wonder if this is new and Jin was this figure and Jimin has picked up this role or always has Jimin been this way but second to Jin.
Ooo. I was thinking the same thing. These guys will have to decompress after being apart almost two years. They will have to regroup individually cause through experiences they have each changed and are not the same seven guys they were prior to enlistment. They have each matured in ways not known to themselves yet. They will need time to adjust to these changes individually. The love is still there but perhaps on a different level. Before they can present BTS to the world they will have to learn each other again based on MS experience. They each suffered emotional damage to a certain degree being snatched apart and sent in different directions. So let them have private time together to get to know the “new” them before they can face this “rabid”😂😂ARMY who also have went through emotional damage. I think ARMY is suffering from separation anxiety also but we love them and will let them readjust to their new chapter two on their own terms. It’s just my opinion. So maybe we can see the fully readjusted BTS in 2026 in full effect. I look forward to new music imagine the conversations they will share with one another. The music will probably reflect their growth further.
My hope is that all BTS members can spend time with family and friends as they come out of their military service. To find joy and peace in just being themselves. No demands, no expectations. When they are all together again I also hope that they can go on a vacation together and just rejoice and enjoy being with each other again. No demands, no expectations. Just seven young men enjoying the time spent with each other. ARMY can wait a little longer. I know this 67 year old ARMY will and they are worth the wait! Thank you for your insight on the MiniMoni Album video. Your perspective is unique, refreshing and concise. Not just informative but enjoyable.
Last night I watched a documentary by the creators & actors of MASH tv show. That show was on tv for 11 years. A statement was made that not only was the material and the actors great, but the actors actually loved each other . They became family and that’s why that show lasted so long. Viewers & fans of the show became part of that family. I feel the same with BTS and each member. I not only love their music, performances, and videos but I love the way the guys care for each other. They have had to put up with all the negative stuff on social media and the lack of recognition by the entertainment industry. But they could depend on each other for support . The same was said for the MASH group (although social media was not part of their problem). I've never been a consistent fan of any group or tv show, but I never missed a MASH show and still watch reruns and I don’t miss an album of BTS. I feel they lighten my load in this life at the risk of criticism over Social sites). it was also kind of RM & Jimin to include us in their recent conversation. RM was so forthcoming with his struggles and Jimin was so compassionate. I felt so much for RM. They are brothers. Many of us don’t have that kind of relationship with siblings or close friends or partners. They have a good thing going but things change and it will be interesting to see how they proceed after the military. I hope they do take a vacation without official cameras (just their own cameras). It would give them time to sort things out as well as relax. The one permanent in life is change. These guys will be changed after military but they will figure it out. ARMY fans will always support their decisions. RM…you have been an awesome leader of BTS and if you want to pass that torch to someone else, than you should. Change is not always a bad thing although we humans have a hard time with it. Love this site for analysis and discussion. Thanks
the revelation that jimin and namjoon are the closest in the group is quite surprising, but perhaps not entirely unexpected. people only remember that RM has a high I.Q., but forget that jimin was valedictorian of his batch in high school, and that jimin's classmates used to call him a "math god" -- so jimin would, in fact, be intellectually compatible with RM! also, both are introspective, as confirmed by the deep private conversations they had as trainees. it's like a meeting of minds and souls! and the fact the both RM and jimin live in the same luxury apartment complex just walking distance from each other just highlight their closeness. of course, it's more than precious for jimin to say that "he's someone i really need in my life" and for namjoon to say that jimin is "a family member who is always by my side." and for RM to publicly say that he'd like for him and jimin to put out an album together means they might be artistically compatible as well! and why not? as a writer, RM is a poet of the pen, and as a dancer, jimin is a poet of motion. rapper and vocalist each with very distinct colors and tones. overall, the video provides fresh insights into the dynamics between jimin and namjoon. and their affirmations of each other are rare and hard to find. they're so lucky to have such a beautiful friendship.
Loved your assessment. It will be interesting what the 'new' BTS will look like. I think initially it might be harder for RM because each member will have matured and maybe with the time spent away from their usual daily routines and the pressure of needing to find compromise, come to a new awareness of their needs and wants, which will definitely affect the dynamics of BTS. I think BTS will eventually operate in a much looser formation, with doing things together as BTS when they first return, like an album and a tour, but then I see them mostly pursuing solo endeavors with the occasional BTS album and a tour every few years. Whatever they were doing in Chapter 1 is not sustainable for the long run. They hid their struggles pretty well; however, not only RM's album and this conversation but also Jhope's dance documentary exposed some of their individual struggles. I hope they will find their way to do what is right for each one of them and make them happy regardless of what everyone else feels they should be doing.
Namjoon juggled many roles and did an excellent job. I hope that when they reunite, his bothers share the burden much more. He deserves to let them take strain off him.
Very insightful as always! I also wondered about RM’s role as the liaison between the agency and the group which would have had its own demands and of course we will never know. I too hope they take time to rest post military . After some sort of reunion tour giving Army their old music mixed with solos, I believe we will start to see the new BTS which will be exciting! They owe us nothing so I hope they can be more relaxed and release the kind of music that inspires them. 💜 the album exchange was emotionally enlightening 💜 I’m here for it and will always support them 💜
I wasn’t expecting to start crying watching this… not tearing up, but full out crying. We can’t comprehend what the members have gone through, but especially RM. I’m so thankful for him (them), but also hurting for him (them) at the same time.
I'm not army but researching for a project and watched the rise of banting. Rm deserves everything! He immediately caught my attention. He is brilliant and talented. Dynamic leader. I am.now understanding why yall love bts.
I'mnt Kpoper and following BTS due my curiousity why this group can be so fenomenal. The more I look into their concept as a group and one by one of the member quality, the more I understand why they can be so big. They arent only serving music, but the story of life!
Thank you for a very candid take on the mimi moni music video. First time I watched it full length , felt like I was in the same room. These two resonates with me Personally. Jimin is a human being with an exceptional emotional intelligence quotient. Namjoon is hurting when he made that album. The title Lost aptly described him at that phase in his life. Now the world knows how. And it was very courageously and artistically brought out by him through his lyrics and musical style . His exit song in the album Come Back To Me could be interpreted in many ways. My own take is that he lost something at the onset of his career but through the dizzying journey with BTS he went through a maze . He wished he could finish that puzzle and come out sane and in one piece. As the leader of a global explosion of a boy band he was tasked with so many things. He was able to do it and magnificently. My prayer is that they can choose what they want. The entertainment world is fickle and is swayed by advertisements and propaganda. But Armys is a world wide fanbase that is intelligent, diverse and fierce in their role as protectors of BTS. We Armys will always be by BTS' side through thick and thin. The connection is very strong proven by our support even if they are not on stage. Armys will accept whatever decision BTS make in the future because we are friends not only in songs and dance but in life and what it means to live.
If we are honest, we all live "multiple" lives with different personnas. The me I present to people I don't know is different from the way I am at home, which is not the same as the person who relates to co-workers at the office, etc.
Thank you, thank you for this. Finally, someone did a video about Jimin's empathy. I've always known that Jimin is this way, but watching him and RM talk about their feelings just further proves his ability to listen, show compassion, empathy and understanding. He truly is a supportive force within this group. Jimin's eyes say everything. You can feel what he's thinking and feeling by just his eyes. I can clearly see how concerned he was for RM. We all need a Jimin in our lives. As for RM, it broke my heart to see him break down in tears during their Festa dinner. I knew right away that he had been struggling with the pressure of having to care for 6 other members, when he, himself was so young at the time. So glad that he took his time before enlisting to deal with and express his emotions by pouring all of himself into this new album. I feel it expressed his authentic self beautifully. It may not be everyone's taste, but his creativity and poetry is what makes RM a genius. I loved Indigo, but this album clearly showcases his vulnerability and raw emotions. As far as their return in 2025, I truly hope that they all take their time reconnecting with friends and family and not rush for the sake of their fans. It is important they are mentally ready and have the personal time to do what's important for them Of course, we all miss them and want to see them quickly, but their mental health is more important, so as fans, we need to be supportive and not pressure them for a comeback in 2025. I would rather wait a little longer knowing they are doing the right thing for themselves.
Thank you for doing this video. I was waiting for your comments and insights. I agree totally that upon their reunion they should chill and spend time together to relearn the members 'new' likes or dislikes...maybe this will be the best time for them to travel like what V proposed to see the aurora lights (during swichita). When i first watched this interview, i really felt heartbroken...the hardship, the burden (to be the best also indirectly from army), the antis, etc...took a toll on our leader and BTS. Not to mention now the current issues in Hybe (vs Ador) must also have a great impact on the members...i wish them well and like what Jimin said, please do share 'the feeling' with army...we are here to listen and help in whatever way we can..apobangpo 💜
When you think about all that these 7 men have given us, we really need to consider that if they decide to NEVER do another song or concert again, we need to be ok with that. I don't imagine that happening, but my goodness, the sheer volume of work that they have done is astounding and I for one am so grateful for it. They've put out music that can address pretty much every issue or life event or feeling anyone would ever have. They have thrilled us with their dancing, made us laugh, made us cry, made us think, made us care more deeply, made us think about how we present ourselves to the world. They have given and given and given, and while I would be incredibly sad if they announced that they were done, I would understand and I would still be incredibly grateful. And as always support them completely.
I feel the same way; I hope they never feel like they HAVE to continue as a group because side WE want them to. They will have different lives; at 30-31 (and near about), they will be thinking of having families; Jin said as much. They should be able to do those things without concern for their fans.
Oh,Namjoon, I do feel for you. Thrust into a leadership rôle in his mid teens and trying to keep it together, both for himself and his bandmates, for so long, it was bound to take its toll. But he has been lucky to have both Jimin and Jin to support him. I only hope that the time in the military will help them all recover from the pressure cooker existence they have all been experiencing until their enlistment. As with many ARMYs I can’t wait for them to return but it will be different, it has to be. We mustn’t pressure them to give more than they are able to, we must wait until they are ready, difficult as that may be. OT7 forever.❤
I have felt and spoken out loud to myself that the guys will have changed and will have grown once they return in 2025. I’m looking forward to what the changes will be.
I have said and thought this so many times... Your insights are amazing. I would love for the boys to hear your thoughts. For whatever reason, this brought me to tears. ❤
When you talk about Jin's role, it always reminds of the interview BTS did and Jhope said that Jin is the one taking control of the group's atmosphere and how he grounded them without being overbearing about hierarchy. I didn't understand what he meant back then but I can gradually see how the members listen to him and seek him for advice, especially about how to live their life.
I really hope they give themselves TIME, once they are all out of the military, to reconnect with their families AND each other and to do that in private. They have given SO MUCH of themselves over the years, they deserve downtime AWAY from the public eye. If we want them to stay happy and healthy, we need to let them have LIVES outside of entertaining ARMY. Yes, they love and appreciate ARMY and give ARMY 50% of the credit for the success of BTS, but that doesn't mean they have to sacrifice personal lives forever. I really hope all ARMYs understand that and won't freak out when we finally find out one or more of the guys has gotten or will become married in the future.
I hope they take the time off and just pop in to say hello every now and then. If they are ready, maybe see them in 2026 sometime. I think the group roles will morph into a no set role for anyone. I just want them all to be happy in whatever they choose to do. If they don't want to make music, that's OK. I would be sad,but I would totally understand and respect that choice. ❤
When they return, they just need to talk to each other and see where they are at emotionally and psychologically before they decide how to move forward. We would support because we want the best for them. They deserve to be at peace and find true happiness.
Yes, I enjoyed RM explaining what he'd been going thru and also Jimin's conversation with him. I would love for you to do a video dedicated to Jimin's empathic communication style. Thank you.
I really appreciate your observation of this video. I picked up a lot of what you said. I definitely would like you to do a video on Jimin and all the members because I believe the dynamics between the group is why they are so successful.Each has their own special emotional intelligence that really shines through when they come together. Thank you for the video.
tbh i think if they don't feel ready to comeback in 2025 as a group, they won't force it. they've been through enough bs at this point that i personally think that they know their limits, when to push them, when to hold back. i trust them. i always put my trust and faith in them, and cut out the outside noise. whether from "fans", netizens or what have you, i put my trust in them and have faith that they know best for themselves, especially at this point. also i know people keep saying 2025, but i think that was said as more of a bench mark. at least that's how i took it anyway 🤷🏽♀
I feel RM "Indigo" was the calm before the storm that is RM "RPWP" to vent all of his pent up feelings finally, Loving It All! 🤔🙄😜😏 That's why Army Love, Support and Trust BTS! 🙋🏽♀️😍😘💜💞✌🏽🙏🏽🇺🇸 #ArmyLove #ForeverWithBTS
Actually the youngest where aprehensive about going it without a leader... but the leaders RM, Suga, and Jhope encouraged them to take their own reins and it made them more of leaders. It's okay to all be leaders but when they come back together their is only one Chief for BTS, and they understand that, and in a way it will be less pressure but now they will support RM more than ever before because they know what it is like to lead their own destiny. Even though it helped them grow as artists, men, and leaders, A REAL LEADER KNOWS WHEN TO FOLLOW AND THAT IS A TRUE LEADER - LEAD BY EXAMPLE, but I'm talking to the choir here, they are all true leaders and step up to the plate. In all that I see, it is RM and JK that are still the kids maturing late in life because of youth and for RM missing out on being a youth in the journey to BTS's success. They will have to make room for him and I believe he will be just fine especially after military service where he has had to follow other leaders and is still a leader by example. You' all get what I am saying? A true leader is a servant throughout his/her life and knows how to bend gracefully yet steps up to the plate with confidence.
It was a great analyse of the MiniMoni episode, which was bitter-sweet, really. I agree so utterly with you. I would love for them to know that they don't have to rush back to public life. Starting with Jin, although it's a moot wish... With Festa 'round the corner, he'll have many outside pressures to make a remarked appearance. I just wish it's at least partially something he wants to do for himself. But when they all are released from their military duty, I really, really hope they'll take a huge step back to take the time to breathe and reassess their new dynamics. I'm convinced the large majority of the fandom would understand and even encourage. As for the rest... well, all parents know you don't have to cater to all the needs of whimsical, demanding children. Thank you for the thoughts you shared in this video, and others. I appreciate that you are factual, fair and that you always give your audience food for thought.
I watched them last night and it was more profound than I expected. It’s so cool to hear them talk about the creative process while also letting us in on their emotions.
I hope the military serves as a break from responsibility for RM and that when they come back as a team they evolve. It’s really difficult when you know people this well to accept their change. Also you assume you know them and often stop having those important conversations with each other you can often fall into old behaviour patterns, so if anything I hope the time apart in their solo work and military they get to come back together and become stronger as individuals and a team. 100% agree I hope they don’t rush their reunion .
Thank you for this wonderful video as always, very informative and insightful. If I can have an opportunity to say something to Bangtan and Namjoon in particular after listening to this album is that I am grateful for him. For everything he did and he will be doing in the future with the rest of the boys (I know they are men now, btw). I now know why those tears were shed during their last Festa.
I would love to see you do a video on Jimin's empathic communication style. He is such an important person to each of the members, and it is beautiful to watch him with the others. And it's always interesting to see how he finds the right way to support each of the members. Jimin does have a high EQ, and he balances that with a high IQ (in fact Namjoon, Yoongi, Tae, Jimin, and Jungkook, all rank as Gifted or Very Gifted/Genius. Jin is average; and I don't know Hobi's IQ), which allows him to understand the members needs and feelings. It's funny, in an interview, both RM and J-Hope quickly pointed out Jimin as the most childish one, yet they have also said that he often seems the most mature member of the group, and that he is the one they go to when they feel troubled. And I agree that Jin's roll of providing a sense of stability and balance, is often overlooked. I think that is because he does it so easily and quietly (which seems ironic lol) that it is not obvious what he is doing. And that's incredibly valuable. All the members have a special part to play in the unique synergy of the group. And BTS could not have existed if THOSE exact seven people hadn't been brought together at that EXACT time. And honestly, I sometimes wonder - was it really Bang PD, or some force guiding him in his choices? Also yes, when they are all finished with their military service, they need time away together to decompress and reconnect. Time to learn how the time apart has changed them, and rediscover each other, and the new dynamics within the group. Bang PD once said that BTS employs a Horizontal Style Of Leadership. I think he was saying that each member has a valuable part to play within the group. And, when they come back together, I hope they can expand on that. So that, rather than most of the pressure landing on the shoulders of one alone, they can each bear a portion of it - so it is never too much for any one person. If you get what I mean.
Another excellent video that provides intelligent and accurate information based on what they tell us and additional research as required. I think you were on point with your assessment of both Jimin and RM. I am proud of all of the members, but RM just sets the bar so high for both his lyricism and overall creative talent. He has performed as the leader of his group with professionalism, wisdom and grace. I am saddened that he does not see within himself how extraordinary he is, yet I completely understand why he feels the way he does. Honestly, for what they have all been through over the past 12-14 years would drive so many people into an unrecoverable abyss as evidenced by so many artist and celebrities that have achieved any level of fame. For all the members to be functioning, thriving, continuing to grow as men and artist, while still being so humble is wonderful to see. It makes us want to follow them as people and their careers. Thank you again for always taking the time to respond to your subscribers questions and delivering content that we can trust and learn about both the creative side of the industry as well as the business side.
Im a baby Army and just started following this year. I knew of BTS but not really much of them. Been delving into their music, and their history. I am fascinated by their creative brilliant endeavors. Ive cried so much at the hardships and mistreatments they have gone through, and laughed at their playful antics.I love their music, this 62 year old has never listened to rap before but now I do(well RM's and Suga's). I continue to explore their history, while I anxiously await their return. I do want to address about Jimin being an empath. While digging into their history(and there's a lot ) I have been going through old youtube videos reading articles and listening to their music. One of the first things I noticed is that whenever somone needs help or is crying, Jimin is the first one there to offer a hug and console them. It was disconcerting to me at times when he (Jimin) would laugh while doing that but l realized he just wanted to make them laugh or cheer up. I agree that Jimin is definitely an empath. I recall an original Star Trek Episode called "the empath" where the empath in question would literally take on the physical wounds and suffering someone else was suffering. This episode was pretty much ingrained in my memory, so that is how I view empathy. I dont exactly remember but I think V had said something about Jimin saying he couldnt help V but could give him his strength(in reference to a talk they were having)I took that to mean he would do whatever he could to help him with his pain..It didn't matter how much personal pain he (Jimin) is carrying or how much more pain he would endure, he would endure because that's what you do for your loved ones and friends(again this how I view empathy) When Jimin mentioned that he couldn't help V, it sort of breaks my heart because I took that to mean that He dosen't think he is doing enough. There's so many more examples of Jimin being an empath he truly loves his BTS family. I truly hope he realizes one day just how much he is helping not just his friends, but people like me I am enjoying music again and smiling more now that Im getting to know BTS. That being said I don't think he is the only one who is an empath. I believe that Hobie is one too. He moves steadily and quietly to the person who needs help and offers a hug or an ear or a shoulder he truly is a gentle soul. Truth to tell I believe all 7 are uniquely empathic, and tuned in to each other even when performing. I truly marvel at how much they have endured and remained, resilient and strong and courageous. I cry at how much pressure they have each been under. I hope they can take better care of themselves for their own sakes. I still shudder when I come across videos where they were injured or got sick, and insisted that they could perform even while hurt. They are so dedicated and perfectionists. They were mad at themselves because they feel that they let their fans down. I hope they realize that they are only Human..I love Jin, Suga,RM,Hobie,Jimin,V, and Jungkook I have no doubt this wonderful group of Humans will be ok.
I just want them to return to us with no physical or emotional wounds! I would love for them to feel no pressure, just take their time, talk about their experiences and regroup at their own pace! Due to the language barrier and his demeanor, it was important for Namjoon to be considered the leader but because they've all grown, matured and have experienced so much, the responsibilities can be evenly spread out amongst each other. I'm sure to them RM, will always be very important and much respect will always be given! Once they're all together and back in sync the type of music will come to them. I don't want them to worry about us, we'll be here patiently waiting for them with open arms and ready to give them all our love and huge support! Wow, I miss them so much!!! Author, thank you for this superb video❣️
The conversation was so eye opening. I agree with u that i think in 2025 when they are back together...they should take some time for themselves. Yes tour eventually but i hope they dont do because they think this is what Army wants.
A conversation between two honest people. Despite their young age, they have a lot of wisdom. You can learn empathy from books, but you have to be born with Jimin's deep empathy. No one can take that away from him. RM put his emotions into words wonderfully. A lot of people can't even articulate it. We had no idea, at least for me, he was carrying such a burden. I recommend the video itself to those who are in a relationship crisis. This is what an honest, comprehensive, relaxed conversation between the parties looks like. I hope we will have many more such conversations when they are decommissioned. Reflecting on Jimin's last question, what would you say to RM before the year 2025? He did it well, and especially with love. Because it's BTS.
Thank you for sharing this, their conversation where Jimin listened like a good therapist and RM was able to relax in his presence and express his feelings. Also, to present/describe Jin’s grounding effect on the members helps us appreciate him even more.
I think at this point BTS was fated. This 7 people came together and made such an incredible bond with each other that became so magnetic. This created ARMY and that is why we love them.
The bond among these men is so fascinating! I'm just gonna share some random thoughts. Very often, Jin is portrayed as this goofy WWH but we don't often see his "grounding" work within the group and how much RM relied on him. I remember V working hard to learn English because he wanted to ease the burden off RM's shoulders for doing all the English interviews. Remember the "Let's sleep...ok" clip? It was funny but Tae was serious in his intention. Suga and JHope always provided the supportive leadership so RM does not have carry all the burden. It's no secret how much JK adores RM. And of course, Jimin, our lovely Jimin, always knows what to say & when to say it. To me, the most impactful thing Jimin said was that they knew that their leader was having a hard time but the group allowed RM to wander as much as he needed. I really hope that they allow themselves the time to decompress and reconnect before tackling a new album or concert tour. And I hope that we don't expect them to come back the same because they are not the same. They have evolved into complex individual MEN who will come back together as a similar but different BTS.
It is interesting that every member who had a solo stage, they always introduced themselves as so and so of BTS. I thought that alone showed how strong the bond is between them and also with us ARMY.
You asked us to comment about living two lives. I spent about 2 years working in a major city part-to-full time. I lived in an ocean-side hippie community and had to drive over a mountain between the two. At home I lived in a world where nature was alive and spoke to me, and would often meet with others just by mentally messaging them. In the city I’d have to close down, focus, stay rational, and keep tabs on what’s around me to stay safe. It look hours, if not a day or two to shift between these two. The guys have their own way of being together that is different than with their fans on Weverse and in concerts, and even more different with the general public like journalists, interviewers, presidents. The female teacher Diotoma’s dialog with Socrates (via Plato) is all about that agency that is the source of creativity which lies between all opposites. She calls it Eros or Love, born of Aphrodite or Beauty (which, of course, contains its own opposite). This is known as the Daimon, referenced in Hermann Hesse and present Blood Sweat and Tears among others.
I think BTS won’t need RM to, “Lead,” them like he did in the past. Especially after their military experiences. I feel this will make RM’s role a little easier?
RM must remember BTS and Army will support him doesn't matter what. We have faith in him. BTS became men, how we Army handle that aspect of them will determine how the future will unfold. Do I want them to change, No and that is only for my own selfish reasons, do I want them happy, yes always. The good thing about Army is we grew older with them, we have proven we will be there no matter what. #rmhistory #recordkeeping_bts_rm #btsarmylovemyselfadedicationtobts #fortheloveofrm
I don’t mind them changing but that may be because I am new to BTS. I love the creativity of bands that experiment and try different things (Queen comes to mind). They did such unique things during their solos. The quality won’t change and that is what I really appreciate about them. I really loved the swagger of Mic Drop and Run BTS at the Busan concert, and Suga’s concerts so I am looking forward to chapter 2.
According to a korean insider every thing starts with RM it's his leadership that hss guided and kept the group so balanced and successful given just being talented is only one aspect of success its more obvious id orher groups by having talented artists they still couldn't stick together, it all comes from rm rm and his leadership he needs to see it accept it
Joonie is so intelligent, it means he often overthinks. I reckon everything will come back together easier than he thinks - he'll see army haven't gone anywhere and that our love for them is unwavering. 💜
Thank you so much for yet another great video. I could listen to you 24/7. You showed an article at 6:36 - Reason why we can't see BTS on variety shows...I tried to find this article online but failed. Do you have a copy of it maybe? Or even better - could you talk about it a little? I am a Central-European ARMY, have zero knowledge on Korean variety shows other then RunBTS and those few shows some of the members attended, but from the comments it seems they are very important for their industry. I would very appreciate an insight. Thank you
I have always wondered if Jin wasn't the glue, he has such a down to earth and comforting way of seeing how things are vs how they could be. He disciplines with humor and affection most of the time, and ,in the past, he has been the most honest with ARMY when it comes to serious things, like how music is judged, and how close they came to disbanding. I applaud him for being the best big brother. He has earned respect because he leads by example. I loved this talk, once again I feel you hit the nail on the head.
I just love the way you describe and analyze this video and give us a plain understanding of BTS situation. We have to give them time to grow and explore their true feelings and commitment to themselves and their work. I am sure by the time they return we will support them no matter what, because we are not selfish people right.🥵🙏
I enjoyed your insight into all of this, and agree about Jimin being an empath. But that aside, I truly hope these seven young men will come back together after their military service and take the time to re-acquaint themselves with each other, to talk about and discuss their growth, their experiences, attitudes, emotions/feelings-be it away somewhere, perhaps on a trip...whatever is most suitable, before they even begin to think about BTS and getting back together as a team. They have gone through so many different things-personal growth as solo artists, getting to know and depend on others in the military, what they went through & learned in the military, not being "seven together" for the first time in ten years, etc.-they will need to decompress, and I pray they won't feel they have a timeline to meet in that. We (Army) have to give them the time and space they need, as does HYBE, and let them decide what and how their future will play out, once they know themselves.
I didn’t think Namjoon was talking about a literal second life, but rather how he’s had to compartmentalize his life in order to function as a leader effectively.
Everything you said 100% true. This was heartbreaking I felt so much for RM. And you could tell as the years gone how RM was feeling. Especially during interviews. You could see the burden growing. BTS yes has a different way but I'm so glad that RM was able to say what he had to say. I'm so glad they all did what they wanted to do. I cant wait til they back for when ever they are ready. ARMY can wait.
Thank you for this really well presented and thought out discussion about a conversation that we got to be privy to with Jimin and RM. Your observations are spot on, and it's an "excited anxiousness" that I'm feeling about when they all come back together as 1 . The music that will come from THAT will be some AWESOMENESS for sure!
Ur style of narration is absolutely beautiful and perfect. U laid out my each feeling and thoughts so perfectly and professionally that I think u deserve an applaud. This convo had literally brought tears in my eyes, I was feeling so overwhelmed while watching them. It was as if I could feel rm's pain and sadness and yet i couldn't because it's really difficult to put myself in his situation. The world sees them as a boy band of 7 artists who somehow broke barriers and became successful. What they don't know and see is how much sacrifices they had to make, how many conflicting emotions they had to deal with, top it with the immense pressure of the industry. All I can say is that my respect for them have grown ten fold, especially for rm. And it's so considerate of u to point out the fact about jin, which many fail to acknowledge.
I loved this analysis. I also liked how you started out by detailing the psychology behind Jimin and RM’s conversation before starting the video. It makes me want to go back and watch the “MiniMoni” episode again to see it for myself.
I agreed with V when he stated in a live (the last one??) that when they all get out, they should take a trip all together with no cameras. He even suggested going to see the northern lights. I thought it was a brilliant idea and I hope they do it. I think it will be too soon to expect content and concerts in 2025. They will need time for lots of things before they are ready. Fighting ! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Just love BTS for their honesty. They potrude what I was unable to express thru their music. They got me going during my downs and paint a smiley picture on my face. Just love them
I agree so much that we should allow them to take the time to decompress after military service. We want them back so much, but let’s put themselves first. We owe them that.
Bon Voyage 5?
I cant wait but can.
V said to Suga he wants to go away for a few days with the members and no cameras. I think that is the wisest thing they could do. I’m sure they have a lot of their comeback already planned but personally they should spend a few days reconnecting.
@@jozefi68Bon Voyage 5.0 without cameras, a crew, or audience🙂. Then they can do BV 5.1 for us.💜
@@maryr1905 a few days? oh they deserve more time than that I think but to them that may seem like a lot, they're so used to incredibly busy schedules
Yes pls do another video showing Jimin's emphatic communication style. Jimin is such a good listener and knows exactly what to say or respond to RM. Btw, love your reaction and explanation to this minimoni video.
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@@himaririku9254 This is about Namjoon and Jimin. They're BTS members. Get a grip. 😂😂
@@himaririku9254 Got lost? Find ur way
I always felt that Jimin's empathy, emotional maturity and tactile nature helped the members to be open and connect with each other, like an invisible, emotional glue. They all have their different roles and compliment each other perfectly. 🥰
I agree that they should pause when they reunite. They talked about travelling together again. I hope they will.
i'll never forget the clip of MiniMoni sitting together outside-- RM was so stressed + anxious about their upcoming events/projects while JM comforted and reassured him. what always gets me is when RM says "it's all going to be okay, right?" in such a vulnerable and childlike way, while also getting choked up.
he's not just a leader, he's also just a human being who struggles w the pressure of his position. def seems like JM is someone he goes to when he's feeling insecure, worried, overwhelmed, or in need of comfort + validation. (actually RM himself even said a version of that, too.)
Is this an interview or article or a book that is being reviewed? I’m so enthralled with the subjects that I missed (even after watching this video several times) where to find the original content.
@@shondiaevans12 it’s a clip from one of their tv shows
I truly enjoyed the conversation between RM and Jimin.
9:42 "RM's leadership is underappreciated" - FACTS 🙌
10:05 Namjoon in sunglasses 😎 is a feast for the eyes 😍🥵
I liked the MMM episode so much. Minimoni always share these *deep* conversations, I knew I'd get super enlightened. Do you guys remember the telepathy Run episode when the 2 of them visited the park they used to practice their dance routines and hang out and write lyrics, while encouraging one another that they'd MAKE IT one day? They sounded so nostalgic while reminiscing. I got the same vibe with this music exchange. This album was such a stress reliever for RM, a therapy of sorts. And I'm glad he got to do it *on his own terms* , making it more authentic. You can feel it in the lyrics.
Jimin was the BEST person to have this exchange with. He is so so receptive to people's emotional well being and always gives the appropriate support to all members. It however makes me worry about who's there for JIMIN?🤔 Who "sees" him like he sees others? Who connects with him most at an emotional and intellectual level and he can easily confide in? Jimin might be the most compassionate, most affectionate & most supportive to all members BUT I've also noticed (my own personal observation) that he doesn't or rather *rarely* allows himself to be vulnerable in front of the members. He somehow feels the need to be the strong one and not weak/ needing help. I think the day he shaved his head for military and came on Live is the most emotionally vulnerable/ 'naked' I'd ever seen him. Who knows, maybe in the next MMM he will also open up in a deeper way to RM.
Agreed. Jimin when in doubt insolates himself alone , so he can go trough his own thoughts and find tge way out. He is not a person knocking doors asking for support . He tells others about his strugles once tgey are already in his past. That way he shows respect and again empathy toward otgers by not confusing them while he is confused. I cannot stop admiroring his character and emotional maturity( not to mention his talent and hard work). All members delivered a lot to each other but Jimin stands appart - what a personality he has!
Thank you for your acknowledging Jin's role in the group. Your description of him as being stabilizing force is right on point.
I think going into the military has had a profound effect on them all. Jungkook and RM seemed to be the most affected when Jin first left . I think they all would have been but it affected them more. Jungkook lost his shield the person who protected him the most and gave him confidence and allowed him to grow up at the right pace. RM had always said he needed Jin by his side especially in interviews. I think Jin being a calm and reliable character helped him in these times and he once said that his days were not good if Jin was not there. We know they are best friends as well as their families being close, so I think the bond between them is strong. He was in a sense his wing man not only in dancing but in his role as a leader.
I have always felt that Jimin and Jin are the two that have the greatest empathy in talking seriously to the other members about things that concern them or their thoughts. This conversation between Jimin and Namjoon reminded me of the conversation between Yoongi and Jin when they were ‘In the Soop’. Both are empathetic and give good advice and are encouraging to others. Jimin shows this openly and Jin as usual silently behind the scenes.
I think you are right in saying that Jin’s role in the band was important. J Hope once described him as the pillar of BTS and without them they would not have succeeded. I think Yoongi was the one that described him as the glue that held them together. To me he has been the silent leader of the group that Namjoon relied on a lot.
There is no denying that Namjoon had the weight of the world on his shoulders and I think he survived because his hyungs were the type of people that understood this and gave him as much support as they could. With their global fame the pressure on Namjoon was immense and I think his time in the military will give him the opportunity to reflect on everything more and come out stronger, as I daresay they all will. There is a reason he is lauded as the best leader because he is, it has taken a strong person to cope with that pressure and although it has taken his toll on him, I think one day he will appreciate his great influence on people and the music industry and realise that as hard as it was, there was a purpose to it all.
I agree with everything you say here. I am really glad RM did this album before going into the military. It seems to be similar to Suga walking through the Amygdala door. RM looks so much more relaxed in the military photos he has shared. I think he cut a deal to do nothing while there - no special jobs, no instructor duty - someone who is so physically and intellectually capable and who won a training camp award is playing in the band as his job? I think it is the perfect situation for him.
I’m sorry but did you forget there are seven members I’m reading your thoughts yes they are yours but how can you leave out a member they each as individuals have strong roles within the group dynamics individual strengths and your blantent lack of respect for each of them shows how deeply you have missed BTS ethos and how they are too each other value every member
There are no coincidences. There is always purpose & meaning behind everything.
@@beccaboowoos2122 How dare you make that assumption because I failed to mention one member. Are you saying we cannot make a comment on anything without mentioning all the members! Because I never mentioned one member I am suddenly a terrible person and don’t follow BTS’s ethos! That thinking is beyond me. The author also only mentioned six members by name are you also telling her that she does not follow BTS ethos?
The topic was Namjoon and Jimin which I was commenting on and mentioned JK as it was relevant to my comment. I mentioned Jin and Yoongi again relevant to my comment in comparing Jin and Jimin’s empathetic personalities. I mentioned comments that J Hope and Yoongi had made about Jin, again relevant to the post and my comments. The only one I did not mention was Tae because I had nothing of relevance to say about him considering the topic and my comments, not that I value him or his contribution any less than any of the other members. I will continue to write my posts as I wish and as my right and will not be dictated to by someone who judges me without even knowing me. I have posted many posts about Tae and my admiration for him and other members again without mentioning all of the members and had no one attack me because I did not mention all of them!
It is all to do with the relevance of the topic and what I am commenting about and I may not always mention all the members in any one post and if that offends you shall I suggest you do not read my comments in the future.
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“He sounds like a professional therapist”…that’s what a psychologist said - except I think he said he sounds like a psychologist - when he watched Jimin in another interview with Joonie. He EQ is genius level, a true empath and a literal Angel! Jimin really understands Joonie and Joonie knows it, so he feels safe talking about himself on a deeper level. MiniMoni have a very special connection - intellectually AND emotionally as close brothers.
I said already that I disagree about jimin being an empath. On that I'm not insulting him. psychologists skew the meaning of empath into someone who is sympathetic, which Jimin is, and he's nurturing. Empaths can actually feel other people's feelings, but that gets into an unscientific area that the pschology people can't handle so Psychologists made up their own definition. Oddly enough when I asked google for a definition, it fished up the oxford dictionary and gave me a good definition, "a person with the paranormal ability to apprehend [feel] the mental or emotional state of another individual." Psychologists sidestepped a whole group of real people who really have the ability, which is totally f'd up. I just don't think Jimin could possibly fit the (real) oxford definition.
Thank you so very much for this video. I have to admit I cried tears of joy the whole time. You always perfectly put into words all of the reasons I love BTS and their relationship to each other and to us. 💜
Also, as a black woman in America I often feel I live 2 lives. Most of the time called code switching something I learned from my mother the way I present myself at work or honestly encountering anyone who are not my friends or family is very different than when I am at home or around loved ones. I work at a bank in customer service and have regular customers who always tell me I'm always pleasant never in a bad mood no matter what. And to be honest they never will. But THAT is not who i am nor the real me. It's of course number one being professional but the other lay to that is I actively feel the need to try and make people "comfortable " around me. It has been automatic most of my life. But now at 50 it feels exhausting and I rush home just to feel some peace. As a matter of fact BTS has brought me peace
I was in your shoes in banking. I’m your basic Caucasian woman, but worked in Private Banking and Investments. So many licenses, it is like I went back to college! I too wore two faces….making everyone comfortable and at ease, while inside feeling so much pressure to do so!
Everyday when I got home from work, I could decompress with my menagerie of animals. My husband worked second shift and usually not home till midnight. We had a phone relationship until MS got the better of me and I had to retire! Now I don’t like talking to anyone but family and my husband does all the talking with any other phone calls that might need to be made, from making appointments to dealing with finances!
He is retired now and we live a great life. We both have different interests, but we are absolutely best friends and I can’t imagine a life without him!
I just had to comment because my double life was like yours!
Code switching is definitely a thing we do. It's funny tho the younger generations don't seem to know about it. I've decided in my career that I will be my true authentic self as much as I can. I still have to put on my professional hat at times, and that is fine, but I got tired of suppressing my personality. I am 49 (50 in Sept.). I just found BTS. It's so nice knowing other women that look like me love them too. 💜
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As much as RM mentioned, after watching his old videos, being totally on edge for 12+ years, I think he also finds it hard to give away control. Did you pick up when Jimin said if the member's ever questioned 'why' RM would just say 'this is how it is'. End of conversation.
I think that could be why he mentioned sub-units, so the members can work together without him having to oversee every minute detail. Something invaluable that he has learned from the RPWP project. The members have now gained that solo experience and I am sure they will also will want to have more of an influence on everything that goes into tracks/albums/concepts/staging etc. And for me that is so exciting.
That is one of the best things about BTS, you never know what you are going to get. Constantly changing and innovating. Real leaders in music.💜
I agree with you 100%, but there has been a time or two in the solo era when I missed RM’s touch to bring some class and sophistication 😊 just sayin’. I love these guys!
@@maryr1905 I get what you mean.🙂 My examples: Jack Harlow dumping his vulgar, clumsy rap on JK's '3D'😕; Lotto "skanking" it up on JK's 'Seven'😕. Both songs, if left SOLELY to JK's gorgeous vocals (minus the "other" version😒) were ruined by shoe-horning in crude Western sensibilities for the Western audience (I'm American, but no thanks). RM's touch would have kept those 2 songs sexy still, but classy.😏
That is not what Jimin said. AT ALL. RM doesn’t desire control, it is a sacrifice he has made (bc most of the members were not writers in the beginning, could not speak English) which has lead to him feeling lost in who he truly is.
Jimin’s exact words:
“He always felt a lot of pressure about the team and there were so many things HE WANTED TO DO FOR THE MEMBERS. He had so much to say to our fans, so thinking about that really stressed him out. He has great things to say and great ideas but if you start thinking abt what EVERYONE ELSE (not himself or the members) thinks it becomes so stressful. He may grumble, but if the members…..it’s the same with EVERYONE, but especially with him if he says ‘this is so’ and ANYONE says ‘WHY is that?’ then that person is crazy.”
This is JIMIN’S thoughts, not something RM would say to them to force them into something.
@@secretyidentity2833You are right!
@@bdfhvxz but that is the song that RM sang the most in his live... when 3d was released...RM wouldn't have done a thing abt the kind of music each member released...Understand RM is the one who watched pQ$n even before jk was an adult... the hyungs who used the f-word more than others .....
This video made me sad and happy.
Sad to hear of the intense pressure that RM felt, but happy that he's grown so much that he can put into words how he felt and what he is feeling now.
Jimin is such a precious soul. You've always been able to see the emphat in him. Please do a deeper look into it for us.😊
To see how these young men have grown and to hear the feelings they have had and have now is a pure blessing. But it was those hard times that have helped them learn and grow into such deep , wonderful , insightful young men. I feel that RM and Jin felt the most pressure and had the most on them.
Jin really was a strong backbone for RM and the other guys. He could contain the chaos and keep it in line so to speak.
These last 9 years of watching them grow, seeing them go out on their own and hold up to such demands they each faced, has been like a proud grandmother watching her grand kids grow!!
That is what has been imprinted on my heart, that's is why they are so important to me.
They have let us Army into so much of their lives, shown so much of their private selfs and shared so many feelings with us. They shared the good and clumsy part of it all.
They will each be in my heart till I'm no longer here.
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Jimins caring is not just on stage. He really deeply connects to people when needed.
Watching this video I immediately thought how insightful and attentive Jimin is. What a beautiful human being he is.
The way you talk about them with the fondness that we all feel gets me every time because you are speaking from a place of care and love. I was so impressed with the way Jimin and RM spoke together, I can see that it was a good fit for this intro to the album to ask Jimin to come listen and a chance for RM to have the supportive thoughts from someone in the group about this very honest and different from his previous work album. I can’t remember now what was said but I started to tear up at one point in the video with the two of them because it impressed me about the way they were talking to each other, (I’ll have to go back and watch again to remember), it really gave me a heartfelt feeling of the bands bond. They KNOW each other. And I was so glad that Jimin made sure that RM could come to them if he was feeling badly, I think they have done this so long that each of them can share his burden in their own way going forward. They know this business and what they have done for 10 years before, they can be his shoulder to lean on. This type of video makes me feel yet again that I know why I love them so much. This is DIFFERENT. You do not get this kind of thing until many years into their middle age when most artists are doing some looking back and reminiscing. They are still young (30 is still very young!) and to be able to let us in and see the person behind the mask is so beautiful.
*How not to empathize with Namjoon the "LEADER" of 6 guys in 2013 or with 6 adult men in 2025?* *He didn't have time to look for what he liked, what he wanted to do because he put his brain and heart at the service of BTS and with Jimin he manages to calm and understand his internal struggle.*
*In 2025 there will be a new stage for all of them, it is a new path to take together but along the way there will always be the Army's to support and encourage them💜*
Yes! Keep saying this so all will be supportive and nurturing while they all go through their next live transition. BTS- we purple YOU💜💜💜
STRAY KIDS IS THE KING OF KPOP...
I knew at their Festa Dinner in 2022 that there was more in their Chapter 2 than just solo work. I never believed they were disbanding as they told us many times in that’s dinner they weren’t. I knew it was the military and that was why they were all so emotional, especially RM! He felt he was letting us all down by having to go to the military, which of course nobody thought that!
I loved your thoughts on Jin. He was the glue that kept them all together!
The is band of brothers has touched my heart (at 57 when I saw them first) from the moment I started listening to their music! I dove into everything I could find out about them, read all the lyrics of their songs, found them to be exceptionally brilliant men, all of h them, with their own strengths to the team! Also they are all so funny and goofy, which another part of their brilliance! They are so endearing to me, I think of them as my sons and can get quite emotional about it.
I too hope they take some time after the military to decompress, write their thoughts, reconnect with their family and each other! I know that ARMY wants a tour in 2025, but we won’t get one! I’ll be happy if at Festa 2025, when they are all free citizens again, that they simply have a dinner and speak about their feelings! I’ll be happy if they are still close to each other and can talk about a future together as a group and maybe lay out dreams for 2026! No promises to tour or put out an album! They need time to find out who they are with each other again!
This was a great video! Jimin is a gem!
I would love another in-depth video of Jimin’s side of the conversation! I find his ability to be so empathetic just another piece in this group that keeps them all so grounded! They all seem to have their emotional parts in the group that helps bind them together and an in depth study of that could be taught in psychology classes around the world!
If you'll ask me to choose a group of friends that i want to have in this crazy world.. i will choose BTS in a heartbeat. Their bond is really hard to find. It's like it's already written in their destiny that they'll be together. And tbh if there's a life after this... i hope they'll still find each other and be the BTS that we know of.
So beautiful
V told Suga that he wanted to see the northern lights, Suga agreed that they should go after serving. Then they disagreed on whether to do it as BV or private.
I feel that this is exactly what they will need - a chance to decompress from not only military but also the past 10yrs.
- a chance to reconnect as a group/family.
- a chance to decide(?) on the direction of BTS for the term of this contract.
The members have not only grown in their Solo era, but would've matured in the military. RM will still be the leader of BTS, only now his burden will be drastically eased.
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Yes please do another video on JiMin's empathy. I think he is the most supportive member. Always being postivite, comforting, and just there for a hug when u need one. Everyone should have a Jimin around to help cope with all the stuff we all deal with. A kind, encouraging word and a hug from JiMin would always make me feel better. THANX
I also believe RM trusted Army enough to release this album. He knew we would support him and could handle the intense feelings he expresses.
I've always thought Jimin is an empath.
All of your videos are so thoughtful. Thanks for taking the time to do these videos. I really appreciate them. I would love for you to do more about empathic Jimin. Also, if you have time, please explore more about Jin. This is my opinion. I think may groups fail because they don’t have a Jin and Jimin in their group. I honestly think these two are the glue that held BTS together. This is no shade to the other members. However, when you have people as talented and focused as these 7 men, there are bound to be clashes of personality. If the clashes get to be too much, people may decide their life is better without the stresses and move on. Adding their high profile life just makes the stress more. As you stated, Jin grounds the group. Calms the personalities. In The Soop, Jin and Suga had a profound conversation that emphasized Jin’s role in the group. Even when we see JK getting energized, Jin is there to play and work the energy in a positive way. Jin steps in when RM is tired and shares a joke, make insightful comments or ensures everyone has an opportunity to speak. Jin is really an amazing person and I look forward to his return. On the other hand, Jimin is the listener who makes you feel heard and okay. All the members have stated they go to Jimin to speak when times are hard. To be able to release your inner most thoughts to a trusted person is beyond valuable. When 2025 comes, I think BTS will be pressured to go on tour as soon as possible. With the messy issues of Min Hee Jin, another new group being started in BigHit, Seventeen evolving with the military (not going on hiatus but members leaving for the military at different times), as Hybe still trying to grow, BTS will release an album and go on tour. However, I got the impression they will still do solo work. The vocal line doesn’t have enough songs to tour but Jhope may want to do a solo tour or at least a few festivals. Suga is a workaholic so I imagine he is spending his off time creating new music for his next album and possibly for BTS album.
Oh boy, I felt after Indigo that RM was not feeling right for this job with BtS. It broke my heart to think he was suffering with all this fame after only expecting a 7 year career as a normal K-pop artist. We cannot even imagine the pressure these young men encountered as their meteoric rise to stardom happened beyond their expectations. I’m sure they loved much of their success and adoration from the fans, but it seems like RM felt so out of place with it all, especially because he had to be the one to step up all the time to the media. This new album RPWT blasts forth with all his struggles and we can all hear it loud and clear. He needed this catharsis or he won’t be able to continue with BTS. Oh my we need him to be OK. As life goes along, I hope he will see his value and continue on his life’s journey being the person who inspires us and makes the music that helps us all live better lives.
Thank you for your great analysis, I met them in 2020, pandemic time, I'm 66 now, a teacher who had students their ages or so, and always thought how difficult it should have been for Namjoon the boy, trying to make everything perfectly accepted by the world, feeling that he could not show his weakness or make mistakes because they were under the big eye of society, ready to jump over them in any opportunity it could be possible. So, this minimoni music video was something to keep and watch every now and then. Jimin is the most emphatic boy in the group, they way he listened, turning his body to Nam with total attention, and sympathetic comments. I feel glad that finally RM the artist could throw up in this new album what Namjoonie the boy had inside. Surely he had much more.
Yes, BTS are one of the or the most empathetic people i have ever come across. And this was the main thing that attracted me towards them cause at first i couldn't stop but wonder how a group of 7 different people can have such a good bond and blood between them and it of course was because of how kind, understanding, gentle, hardworking, humourous humans with top tier humanity they are like a whole package like brahhh i just cant describe them in words... they have a very good balance and their love towards their fan and each other is just so pure. And Jimin as you put it perfectly, i agree has a very high EQ, he is an angel who is so humble and idk every word he speaks feels so sincere and genuine coming from his pure good heart like what byeee
Yes please do another video showing Jimin's emphatic communication style :3
I really loved this conversation between the two of them. Two things that really struck me, is RM stating that he is a “wrong” person, and Jimin’s heartbreak at that statement. The other is when Jimin told RM that he was gradually finding his own color, and the relief and gratitude that RM showed- like something made him feel a little lighter. I am honored to have been allowed to see that exchange, and RM showed real courage sharing it with us.
What I see when they all come back is that they all will become more active in the group’s decisions, since they all have had time to grow on their own both creatively and with life experience apart from the other members. And yet, since they all went during the same timeframe, they will also be in a similar place and be on a more level field than before. Of course, there are still going to be the Hyung and maknae lines, but more from an adult mindset. I don’t think Jungkook will settle with just going along with everything now, andI also believe that RM will be willing to let go of some of the control. That worked in the past, but acknowledging changes in each other allows relationships to grow.
I also agree that they will need to get used to each other again, and I really hope that they take that time. As a former military wife, it took time for my husband and me to get used to each other again after he got home from Iraq. Maybe a couple of weeks at most , since I didn’t have to be a single mom anymore , and he had to get used to just living as a husband and father again.
I hope they stay healthy and safe, and really let them find and explore a different side to themselves. I am really looking forward to Chalter 2. 💜💜💜
Very good point. It will be hard but I think BTS will find a way to lift each other up while coming together again. I think this next era will be so rich & varied - & given their past amazing discography that is saying something.
I admire and am grateful that Namjoon was able to lay it all out in his music. I think some of the fans needed to know how he was really feeling and how he was struggling to cope. I wondered how he could cope being put on a pedestal and being made to be THE global Ambassador for so many important causes. I felt heartache for him before this. I am kind of glad he is occupied somewhere else so he doesn’t feel pressured to do something right now. It is out of his hands. I pray going forward he gets to have a more normal life off stage. They all need that.
It is ridiculous to me how underrated RM’s role in BTS is by general public and even at times ARMYs. People seem to forget just how young he was, ONE YEAR older than 2 members of the maknae line. That’s it. There are no words to describe what RM went through and the sacrifices he made for his members. I don’t know many people who would have the strength to do what he did. All of it, has been nothing short of a miracle, anyone who understands how the music industry operates and knows a little bit about art can see just how impressive RM is. I hope one day he realizes and acknowledges (even if just internally) everything and everyone he touched and helped during his life. How blessed we are to live in the same timeline as Kim Namjoon, as BTS.
I am constantly amazed by these seven men. Their artistry, maturity, grace, and love for each other are astounding. The universe was truly inspired when it brought these seven together. Through courageous grit and their bond for each other, they became a treasure to so many. It is known that diamonds are created by immense pressure. BTS is the most brilliant. May they realize that they are so dearly loved 💜
When it comes to Jimin's heart and compassion, I don't know of any other man who can even come close. He literally runs to the members when they're hurting. Some people just have the capacity to do that. We all need a Jimin in our lives. He seems so sad to me at times. I hope he has a "Jimin" in his life too. Someone who can comfort him.
His dad probably
@laywaylove IDK because he said his dad cried when he first heard his song Face-Off because he didn't know he was going through that. 🥺
He has very close friends…Sungwoon and Taemin especially. Both of them are his seniors who have walked in the same path as him and, incidentally, they are carbon copies of each other with regard to their personalities. I believe they have been a very big, support and comfort to him. We’ve seen, on more than one occasion, both speak highly of Jimin and with great affection, admiration and respect. That makes me feel good to know he has individuals like them in his close-knit circle.
@@nicolecmke True, but I feel that's probably because Jimin doesn't open up that much himself, as his dad seems very emotionally aware and soft, and would have been there for his son in a heartbeat. People like Jimin are natural givers and don't like to burden others, i know something about it myself 🥹
@@ArmantoAlex13 True. Jimin even saw Sungwoon off when he went into the military. I'm sure he missed him during his solo promotions.
Since the solo work I’ve found that Jimin really seems to be the centre of BTS keeping them all together as a family (mother figure) as such. Obviously they are all active in their BTS team/family, but Jimin seems to be the one reaching out to all of the team. He was the one attending all their solo commitments, providing support and gifts. Previously I’ve thought RM being the leader or Jin being the oldest or JHope being the mood maker may have been the centre of BTS, so I wonder if this is new and Jin was this figure and Jimin has picked up this role or always has Jimin been this way but second to Jin.
Didn't Jimin start the buying gifts for members routine.
Ooo. I was thinking the same thing. These guys will have to decompress after being apart almost two years. They will have to regroup individually cause through experiences they have each changed and are not the same seven guys they were prior to enlistment. They have each matured in ways not known to themselves yet. They will need time to adjust to these changes individually. The love is still there but perhaps on a different level. Before they can present BTS to the world they will have to learn each other again based on MS experience. They each suffered emotional damage to a certain degree being snatched apart and sent in different directions. So let them have private time together to get to know the “new” them before they can face this “rabid”😂😂ARMY who also have went through emotional damage. I think ARMY is suffering from separation anxiety also but we love them and will let them readjust to their new chapter two on their own terms. It’s just my opinion. So maybe we can see the fully readjusted BTS in 2026 in full effect. I look forward to new music imagine the conversations they will share with one another. The music will probably reflect their growth further.
My hope is that all BTS members can spend time with family and friends as they come out of their military service. To find joy and peace in just being themselves. No demands, no expectations. When they are all together again I also hope that they can go on a vacation together and just rejoice and enjoy being with each other again. No demands, no expectations. Just seven young men enjoying the time spent with each other. ARMY can wait a little longer. I know this 67 year old ARMY will and they are worth the wait!
Thank you for your insight on the MiniMoni Album video. Your perspective is unique, refreshing and concise. Not just informative but enjoyable.
I agree wholeheartedly about them taking their time when they re-unite!!💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Last night I watched a documentary by the creators & actors of MASH tv show. That show was on tv for 11 years. A statement was made that not only was the material and the actors great, but the actors actually loved each other . They became family and that’s why that show lasted so long. Viewers & fans of the show became part of that family. I feel the same with BTS and each member. I not only love their music, performances, and videos but I love the way the guys care for each other. They have had to put up with all the negative stuff on social media and the lack of recognition by the entertainment industry. But they could depend on each other for support . The same was said for the MASH group (although social media was not part of their problem). I've never been a consistent fan of any group or tv show, but I never missed a MASH show and still watch reruns and I don’t miss an album of BTS. I feel they lighten my load in this life at the risk of criticism over Social sites). it was also kind of RM & Jimin to include us in their recent conversation. RM was so forthcoming with his struggles and Jimin was so compassionate. I felt so much for RM. They are brothers. Many of us don’t have that kind of relationship with siblings or close friends or partners. They have a good thing going but things change and it will be interesting to see how they proceed after the military. I hope they do take a vacation without official cameras (just their own cameras). It would give them time to sort things out as well as relax. The one permanent in life is change. These guys will be changed after military but they will figure it out. ARMY fans will always support their decisions. RM…you have been an awesome leader of BTS and if you want to pass that torch to someone else, than you should. Change is not always a bad thing although we humans have a hard time with it.
Love this site for analysis and discussion. Thanks
Very good analogy between MASH and BTS.
the revelation that jimin and namjoon are the closest in the group is quite surprising, but perhaps not entirely unexpected. people only remember that RM has a high I.Q., but forget that jimin was valedictorian of his batch in high school, and that jimin's classmates used to call him a "math god" -- so jimin would, in fact, be intellectually compatible with RM! also, both are introspective, as confirmed by the deep private conversations they had as trainees. it's like a meeting of minds and souls! and the fact the both RM and jimin live in the same luxury apartment complex just walking distance from each other just highlight their closeness. of course, it's more than precious for jimin to say that "he's someone i really need in my life" and for namjoon to say that jimin is "a family member who is always by my side." and for RM to publicly say that he'd like for him and jimin to put out an album together means they might be artistically compatible as well! and why not? as a writer, RM is a poet of the pen, and as a dancer, jimin is a poet of motion. rapper and vocalist each with very distinct colors and tones. overall, the video provides fresh insights into the dynamics between jimin and namjoon. and their affirmations of each other are rare and hard to find. they're so lucky to have such a beautiful friendship.
Eloquently said. Thank you. 👏👏👏
they are not the closest two members in the group.
I'm excited to see them back together but if they need time for themselves, it's definitely ok with me.
Made think and appreciate the creative process of artists like Rm and Jimin.
Loved your assessment. It will be interesting what the 'new' BTS will look like. I think initially it might be harder for RM because each member will have matured and maybe with the time spent away from their usual daily routines and the pressure of needing to find compromise, come to a new awareness of their needs and wants, which will definitely affect the dynamics of BTS. I think BTS will eventually operate in a much looser formation, with doing things together as BTS when they first return, like an album and a tour, but then I see them mostly pursuing solo endeavors with the occasional BTS album and a tour every few years. Whatever they were doing in Chapter 1 is not sustainable for the long run. They hid their struggles pretty well; however, not only RM's album and this conversation but also Jhope's dance documentary exposed some of their individual struggles. I hope they will find their way to do what is right for each one of them and make them happy regardless of what everyone else feels they should be doing.
Namjoon juggled many roles and did an excellent job. I hope that when they reunite, his bothers share the burden much more. He deserves to let them take strain off him.
Very insightful as always! I also wondered about RM’s role as the liaison between the agency and the group which would have had its own demands and of course we will never know. I too hope they take time to rest post military . After some sort of reunion tour giving Army their old music mixed with solos, I believe we will start to see the new BTS which will be exciting! They owe us nothing so I hope they can be more relaxed and release the kind of music that inspires them. 💜 the album exchange was emotionally enlightening 💜
I’m here for it and will always support them 💜
I wasn’t expecting to start crying watching this… not tearing up, but full out crying. We can’t comprehend what the members have gone through, but especially RM. I’m so thankful for him (them), but also hurting for him (them) at the same time.
I'm not army but researching for a project and watched the rise of banting. Rm deserves everything! He immediately caught my attention. He is brilliant and talented. Dynamic leader. I am.now understanding why yall love bts.
I'mnt Kpoper and following BTS due my curiousity why this group can be so fenomenal.
The more I look into their concept as a group and one by one of the member quality, the more I understand why they can be so big. They arent only serving music, but the story of life!
Thank you for a very candid take on the mimi moni music video. First time I watched it full length , felt like I was in the same room. These two resonates with me Personally. Jimin is a human being with an exceptional emotional intelligence quotient. Namjoon is hurting when he made that album. The title Lost aptly described him at that phase in his life. Now the world knows how. And it was very courageously and artistically brought out by him through his lyrics and musical style . His exit song in the album Come Back To Me could be interpreted in many ways. My own take is that he lost something at the onset of his career but through the dizzying journey with BTS he went through a maze . He wished he could finish that puzzle and come out sane and in one piece. As the leader of a global explosion of a boy band he was tasked with so many things. He was able to do it and magnificently. My prayer is that they can choose what they want. The entertainment world is fickle and is swayed by advertisements and propaganda. But Armys is a world wide fanbase that is intelligent, diverse and fierce in their role as protectors of BTS. We Armys will always be by BTS' side through thick and thin. The connection is very strong proven by our support even if they are not on stage. Armys will accept whatever decision BTS make in the future because we are friends not only in songs and dance but in life and what it means to live.
that's why the eldest isn't the leader. So the leader has someone to lean on.
Awwwww 😢
If we are honest, we all live "multiple" lives with different personnas. The me I present to people I don't know is different from the way I am at home, which is not the same as the person who relates to co-workers at the office, etc.
Thank you, thank you for this. Finally, someone did a video about Jimin's empathy. I've always known that Jimin is this way, but watching him and RM talk about their feelings just further proves his ability to listen, show compassion, empathy and understanding. He truly is a supportive force within this group. Jimin's eyes say everything. You can feel what he's thinking and feeling by just his eyes. I can clearly see how concerned he was for RM. We all need a Jimin in our lives. As for RM, it broke my heart to see him break down in tears during their Festa dinner. I knew right away that he had been struggling with the pressure of having to care for 6 other members, when he, himself was so young at the time. So glad that he took his time before enlisting to deal with and express his emotions by pouring all of himself into this new album. I feel it expressed his authentic self beautifully. It may not be everyone's taste, but his creativity and poetry is what makes RM a genius. I loved Indigo, but this album clearly showcases his vulnerability and raw emotions. As far as their return in 2025, I truly hope that they all take their time reconnecting with friends and family and not rush for the sake of their fans. It is important they are mentally ready and have the personal time to do what's important for them Of course, we all miss them and want to see them quickly, but their mental health is more important, so as fans, we need to be supportive and not pressure them for a comeback in 2025. I would rather wait a little longer knowing they are doing the right thing for themselves.
Thank you for doing this video. I was waiting for your comments and insights. I agree totally that upon their reunion they should chill and spend time together to relearn the members 'new' likes or dislikes...maybe this will be the best time for them to travel like what V proposed to see the aurora lights (during swichita). When i first watched this interview, i really felt heartbroken...the hardship, the burden (to be the best also indirectly from army), the antis, etc...took a toll on our leader and BTS. Not to mention now the current issues in Hybe (vs Ador) must also have a great impact on the members...i wish them well and like what Jimin said, please do share 'the feeling' with army...we are here to listen and help in whatever way we can..apobangpo 💜
I was extremely impressed by the way Jimin walked through things with RM. He showed empathy at work.
Thank you. 👏 👏
I would def want to see that video on Jimin. He really is the heart of BTS.
When you think about all that these 7 men have given us, we really need to consider that if they decide to NEVER do another song or concert again, we need to be ok with that. I don't imagine that happening, but my goodness, the sheer volume of work that they have done is astounding and I for one am so grateful for it. They've put out music that can address pretty much every issue or life event or feeling anyone would ever have. They have thrilled us with their dancing, made us laugh, made us cry, made us think, made us care more deeply, made us think about how we present ourselves to the world. They have given and given and given, and while I would be incredibly sad if they announced that they were done, I would understand and I would still be incredibly grateful. And as always support them completely.
I feel the same way; I hope they never feel like they HAVE to continue as a group because side WE want them to. They will have different lives; at 30-31 (and near about), they will be thinking of having families; Jin said as much. They should be able to do those things without concern for their fans.
Oh,Namjoon, I do feel for you. Thrust into a leadership rôle in his mid teens and trying to keep it together, both for himself and his bandmates, for so long, it was bound to take its toll. But he has been lucky to have both Jimin and Jin to support him. I only hope that the time in the military will help them all recover from the pressure cooker existence they have all been experiencing until their enlistment. As with many ARMYs I can’t wait for them to return but it will be different, it has to be. We mustn’t pressure them to give more than they are able to, we must wait until they are ready, difficult as that may be. OT7 forever.❤
I have felt and spoken out loud to myself that the guys will have changed and will have grown once they return in 2025. I’m looking forward to what the changes will be.
I have said and thought this so many times... Your insights are amazing. I would love for the boys to hear your thoughts. For whatever reason, this brought me to tears. ❤
When you talk about Jin's role, it always reminds of the interview BTS did and Jhope said that Jin is the one taking control of the group's atmosphere and how he grounded them without being overbearing about hierarchy. I didn't understand what he meant back then but I can gradually see how the members listen to him and seek him for advice, especially about how to live their life.
I really hope they give themselves TIME, once they are all out of the military, to reconnect with their families AND each other and to do that in private. They have given SO MUCH of themselves over the years, they deserve downtime AWAY from the public eye.
If we want them to stay happy and healthy, we need to let them have LIVES outside of entertaining ARMY. Yes, they love and appreciate ARMY and give ARMY 50% of the credit for the success of BTS, but that doesn't mean they have to sacrifice personal lives forever. I really hope all ARMYs understand that and won't freak out when we finally find out one or more of the guys has gotten or will become married in the future.
I hope they take the time off and just pop in to say hello every now and then. If they are ready, maybe see them in 2026 sometime. I think the group roles will morph into a no set role for anyone. I just want them all to be happy in whatever they choose to do. If they don't want to make music, that's OK. I would be sad,but I would totally understand and respect that choice. ❤
When they return, they just need to talk to each other and see where they are at emotionally and psychologically before they decide how to move forward. We would support because we want the best for them. They deserve to be at peace and find true happiness.
My gorgeous Wildflower just be happy
Yes, I enjoyed RM explaining what he'd been going thru and also Jimin's conversation with him. I would love for you to do a video dedicated to Jimin's empathic communication style. Thank you.
I really appreciate your observation of this video. I picked up a lot of what you said. I definitely would like you to do a video on Jimin and all the members because I believe the dynamics between the group is why they are so successful.Each has their own special emotional intelligence that really shines through when they come together.
Thank you for the video.
tbh i think if they don't feel ready to comeback in 2025 as a group, they won't force it. they've been through enough bs at this point that i personally think that they know their limits, when to push them, when to hold back. i trust them. i always put my trust and faith in them, and cut out the outside noise. whether from "fans", netizens or what have you, i put my trust in them and have faith that they know best for themselves, especially at this point. also i know people keep saying 2025, but i think that was said as more of a bench mark. at least that's how i took it anyway 🤷🏽♀
I feel RM "Indigo" was the calm before the storm that is RM "RPWP" to vent all of his pent up feelings finally, Loving It All! 🤔🙄😜😏 That's why Army Love, Support and Trust BTS! 🙋🏽♀️😍😘💜💞✌🏽🙏🏽🇺🇸 #ArmyLove #ForeverWithBTS
Actually the youngest where aprehensive about going it without a leader... but the leaders RM, Suga, and Jhope encouraged them to take their own reins and it made them more of leaders. It's okay to all be leaders but when they come back together their is only one Chief for BTS, and they understand that, and in a way it will be less pressure but now they will support RM more than ever before because they know what it is like to lead their own destiny. Even though it helped them grow as artists, men, and leaders, A REAL LEADER KNOWS WHEN TO FOLLOW AND THAT IS A TRUE LEADER - LEAD BY EXAMPLE, but I'm talking to the choir here, they are all true leaders and step up to the plate. In all that I see, it is RM and JK that are still the kids maturing late in life because of youth and for RM missing out on being a youth in the journey to BTS's success. They will have to make room for him and I believe he will be just fine especially after military service where he has had to follow other leaders and is still a leader by example. You' all get what I am saying? A true leader is a servant throughout his/her life and knows how to bend gracefully yet steps up to the plate with confidence.
It was a great analyse of the MiniMoni episode, which was bitter-sweet, really.
I agree so utterly with you. I would love for them to know that they don't have to rush back to public life. Starting with Jin, although it's a moot wish... With Festa 'round the corner, he'll have many outside pressures to make a remarked appearance. I just wish it's at least partially something he wants to do for himself.
But when they all are released from their military duty, I really, really hope they'll take a huge step back to take the time to breathe and reassess their new dynamics. I'm convinced the large majority of the fandom would understand and even encourage. As for the rest... well, all parents know you don't have to cater to all the needs of whimsical, demanding children.
Thank you for the thoughts you shared in this video, and others. I appreciate that you are factual, fair and that you always give your audience food for thought.
I watched them last night and it was more profound than I expected. It’s so cool to hear them talk about the creative process while also letting us in on their emotions.
Thank you once again! You are a much necessary voice for Army to listen, your analysis so brilliant. Borahae 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I hope the military serves as a break from responsibility for RM and that when they come back as a team they evolve. It’s really difficult when you know people this well to accept their change. Also you assume you know them and often stop having those important conversations with each other you can often fall into old behaviour patterns, so if anything I hope the time apart in their solo work and military they get to come back together and become stronger as individuals and a team. 100% agree I hope they don’t rush their reunion .
Thank you for this wonderful video as always, very informative and insightful. If I can have an opportunity to say something to Bangtan and Namjoon in particular after listening to this album is that I am grateful for him. For everything he did and he will be doing in the future with the rest of the boys (I know they are men now, btw). I now know why those tears were shed during their last Festa.
I would love to see you do a video on Jimin's empathic communication style. He is such an important person to each of the members, and it is beautiful to watch him with the others. And it's always interesting to see how he finds the right way to support each of the members.
Jimin does have a high EQ, and he balances that with a high IQ (in fact Namjoon, Yoongi, Tae, Jimin, and Jungkook, all rank as Gifted or Very Gifted/Genius. Jin is average; and I don't know Hobi's IQ), which allows him to understand the members needs and feelings.
It's funny, in an interview, both RM and J-Hope quickly pointed out Jimin as the most childish one, yet they have also said that he often seems the most mature member of the group, and that he is the one they go to when they feel troubled.
And I agree that Jin's roll of providing a sense of stability and balance, is often overlooked. I think that is because he does it so easily and quietly (which seems ironic lol) that it is not obvious what he is doing. And that's incredibly valuable.
All the members have a special part to play in the unique synergy of the group. And BTS could not have existed if THOSE exact seven people hadn't been brought together at that EXACT time. And honestly, I sometimes wonder - was it really Bang PD, or some force guiding him in his choices?
Also yes, when they are all finished with their military service, they need time away together to decompress and reconnect. Time to learn how the time apart has changed them, and rediscover each other, and the new dynamics within the group.
Bang PD once said that BTS employs a Horizontal Style Of Leadership. I think he was saying that each member has a valuable part to play within the group. And, when they come back together, I hope they can expand on that. So that, rather than most of the pressure landing on the shoulders of one alone, they can each bear a portion of it - so it is never too much for any one person. If you get what I mean.
Another excellent video that provides intelligent and accurate information based on what they tell us and additional research as required. I think you were on point with your assessment of both Jimin and RM. I am proud of all of the members, but RM just sets the bar so high for both his lyricism and overall creative talent.
He has performed as the leader of his group with professionalism, wisdom and grace. I am saddened that he does not see within himself how extraordinary he is, yet I completely understand why he feels the way he does. Honestly, for what they have all been through over the past 12-14 years would drive so many people into an unrecoverable abyss as evidenced by so many artist and celebrities that have achieved any level of fame.
For all the members to be functioning, thriving, continuing to grow as men and artist, while still being so humble is wonderful to see. It makes us want to follow them as people and their careers.
Thank you again for always taking the time to respond to your subscribers questions and delivering content that we can trust and learn about both the creative side of the industry as well as the business side.
Im a baby Army and just started following this year. I knew of BTS but not really much of them. Been delving into their music, and their history. I am fascinated by their creative brilliant endeavors. Ive cried so much at the hardships and mistreatments they have gone through, and laughed at their playful antics.I love their music, this 62 year old has never listened to rap before but now I do(well RM's and Suga's). I continue to explore their history, while I anxiously await their return. I do want to
address about Jimin being an empath. While digging into their history(and there's a lot ) I have been going through old youtube videos reading articles and listening to their music. One of the first things I noticed is that whenever somone needs help or is crying, Jimin is the first one there to offer a hug and console them. It was disconcerting to me at times when he (Jimin) would laugh while doing that but l realized he just wanted to make them laugh or cheer up. I agree that Jimin is definitely an empath. I recall an original Star Trek Episode called "the empath" where the empath in question would literally take on the physical wounds and suffering someone else was suffering. This episode was pretty much ingrained in my memory, so that is how I view empathy. I dont exactly remember but I think V had said something about Jimin saying he couldnt help V but could give him his strength(in reference to a talk they were having)I took that to mean he would do whatever he could to help him with his pain..It didn't matter how much personal pain he (Jimin) is carrying or how much more pain he would endure, he would endure because that's what you do for your loved ones and friends(again this how I view empathy) When Jimin mentioned that he couldn't help V, it sort of breaks my heart because I took that to mean that He dosen't think he is doing enough. There's so many more examples of Jimin being an empath he truly loves his BTS family. I truly hope he realizes one day just how much he is helping not just his friends, but people like me I am enjoying music again and smiling more now that Im getting to know BTS. That being said I don't think he is the only one who is an empath. I believe that Hobie is one too. He moves steadily and quietly to the person who needs help and offers a hug or an ear or a shoulder he truly is a gentle soul. Truth to tell I believe all 7 are uniquely empathic, and tuned in to each other even when performing. I truly marvel at how much they have endured and remained, resilient and strong and courageous. I cry at how much pressure they have each been under. I hope they can take better care of themselves for their own sakes. I still shudder when I come across videos where they were injured or got sick, and insisted that they could perform even while hurt. They are so dedicated and perfectionists. They were mad at themselves because they feel that they let their fans down. I hope they realize that they are only Human..I love Jin, Suga,RM,Hobie,Jimin,V, and Jungkook I have no doubt this wonderful group of Humans will be ok.
I just want them to return to us with no physical or emotional wounds! I would love for them to feel no pressure, just take their time, talk about their experiences and regroup at their own pace!
Due to the language barrier and his demeanor, it was important for Namjoon to be considered the leader but because they've all grown, matured and have experienced so much, the responsibilities can be evenly spread out amongst each other. I'm sure to them RM, will always be very important and much respect will always be given!
Once they're all together and back in sync the type of music will come to them. I don't want them to worry about us, we'll be here patiently waiting for them with open arms and ready to give them all our love and huge support! Wow, I miss them so much!!!
Author, thank you for this superb video❣️
The conversation was so eye opening. I agree with u that i think in 2025 when they are back together...they should take some time for themselves. Yes tour eventually but i hope they dont do because they think this is what Army wants.
A conversation between two honest people. Despite their young age, they have a lot of wisdom. You can learn empathy from books, but you have to be born with Jimin's deep empathy. No one can take that away from him. RM put his emotions into words wonderfully. A lot of people can't even articulate it. We had no idea, at least for me, he was carrying such a burden. I recommend the video itself to those who are in a relationship crisis. This is what an honest, comprehensive, relaxed conversation between the parties looks like. I hope we will have many more such conversations when they are decommissioned. Reflecting on Jimin's last question, what would you say to RM before the year 2025? He did it well, and especially with love. Because it's BTS.
I always love your insights on things esp with BTS, that's why i never miss any of your contents about them. Thank you so much for this💜💜💜
Thank you for sharing this, their conversation where Jimin listened like a good therapist and RM was able to relax in his presence and express his feelings. Also, to present/describe Jin’s grounding effect on the members helps us appreciate him even more.
I think at this point BTS was fated. This 7 people came together and made such an incredible bond with each other that became so magnetic. This created ARMY and that is why we love them.
The bond among these men is so fascinating! I'm just gonna share some random thoughts. Very often, Jin is portrayed as this goofy WWH but we don't often see his "grounding" work within the group and how much RM relied on him. I remember V working hard to learn English because he wanted to ease the burden off RM's shoulders for doing all the English interviews. Remember the "Let's sleep...ok" clip? It was funny but Tae was serious in his intention. Suga and JHope always provided the supportive leadership so RM does not have carry all the burden. It's no secret how much JK adores RM. And of course, Jimin, our lovely Jimin, always knows what to say & when to say it. To me, the most impactful thing Jimin said was that they knew that their leader was having a hard time but the group allowed RM to wander as much as he needed. I really hope that they allow themselves the time to decompress and reconnect before tackling a new album or concert tour. And I hope that we don't expect them to come back the same because they are not the same. They have evolved into complex individual MEN who will come back together as a similar but different BTS.
It is interesting that every member who had a solo stage, they always introduced themselves as so and so of BTS. I thought that alone showed how strong the bond is between them and also with us ARMY.
You asked us to comment about living two lives. I spent about 2 years working in a major city part-to-full time. I lived in an ocean-side hippie community and had to drive over a mountain between the two. At home I lived in a world where nature was alive and spoke to me, and would often meet with others just by mentally messaging them. In the city I’d have to close down, focus, stay rational, and keep tabs on what’s around me to stay safe. It look hours, if not a day or two to shift between these two.
The guys have their own way of being together that is different than with their fans on Weverse and in concerts, and even more different with the general public like journalists, interviewers, presidents.
The female teacher Diotoma’s dialog with Socrates (via Plato) is all about that agency that is the source of creativity which lies between all opposites. She calls it Eros or Love, born of Aphrodite or Beauty (which, of course, contains its own opposite). This is known as the Daimon, referenced in Hermann Hesse and present Blood Sweat and Tears among others.
I think RM will realize that these are adults & don’t need to be lead in the same way as in the past. He’ll know when to lead & when to step back. 💜
I think BTS won’t need RM to, “Lead,” them like he did in the past. Especially after their military experiences. I feel this will make RM’s role a little easier?
RM must remember BTS and Army will support him doesn't matter what. We have faith in him.
BTS became men, how we Army handle that aspect of them will determine how the future will unfold.
Do I want them to change, No and that is only for my own selfish reasons, do I want them happy, yes always.
The good thing about Army is we grew older with them, we have proven we will be there no matter what.
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I don’t mind them changing but that may be because I am new to BTS. I love the creativity of bands that experiment and try different things (Queen comes to mind). They did such unique things during their solos. The quality won’t change and that is what I really appreciate about them. I really loved the swagger of Mic Drop and Run BTS at the Busan concert, and Suga’s concerts so I am looking forward to chapter 2.
Jin jin jin jin jin jin jin .....oooh can´t wait!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
According to a korean insider every thing starts with RM it's his leadership that hss guided and kept the group so balanced and successful given just being talented is only one aspect of success its more obvious id orher groups by having talented artists they still couldn't stick together, it all comes from rm rm and his leadership he needs to see it accept it
Joonie is so intelligent, it means he often overthinks. I reckon everything will come back together easier than he thinks - he'll see army haven't gone anywhere and that our love for them is unwavering. 💜
Thank you so much for yet another great video. I could listen to you 24/7.
You showed an article at 6:36 - Reason why we can't see BTS on variety shows...I tried to find this article online but failed. Do you have a copy of it maybe? Or even better - could you talk about it a little? I am a Central-European ARMY, have zero knowledge on Korean variety shows other then RunBTS and those few shows some of the members attended, but from the comments it seems they are very important for their industry. I would very appreciate an insight. Thank you
I have always wondered if Jin wasn't the glue, he has such a down to earth and comforting way of seeing how things are vs how they could be. He disciplines with humor and affection most of the time, and ,in the past, he has been the most honest with ARMY when it comes to serious things, like how music is judged, and how close they came to disbanding. I applaud him for being the best big brother. He has earned respect because he leads by example.
I loved this talk, once again I feel you hit the nail on the head.
I just love the way you describe and analyze this video and give us a plain understanding of BTS situation. We have to give them time to grow and explore their true feelings and commitment to themselves and their work. I am sure by the time they return we will support them no matter what, because we are not selfish people right.🥵🙏
I enjoyed your insight into all of this, and agree about Jimin being an empath. But that aside, I truly hope these seven young men will come back together after their military service and take the time to re-acquaint themselves with each other, to talk about and discuss their growth, their experiences, attitudes, emotions/feelings-be it away somewhere, perhaps on a trip...whatever is most suitable, before they even begin to think about BTS and getting back together as a team. They have gone through so many different things-personal growth as solo artists, getting to know and depend on others in the military, what they went through & learned in the military, not being "seven together" for the first time in ten years, etc.-they will need to decompress, and I pray they won't feel they have a timeline to meet in that. We (Army) have to give them the time and space they need, as does HYBE, and let them decide what and how their future will play out, once they know themselves.
I didn’t think Namjoon was talking about a literal second life, but rather how he’s had to compartmentalize his life in order to function as a leader effectively.
Thank you for your insight!
Everything you said 100% true. This was heartbreaking I felt so much for RM. And you could tell as the years gone how RM was feeling. Especially during interviews. You could see the burden growing. BTS yes has a different way but I'm so glad that RM was able to say what he had to say. I'm so glad they all did what they wanted to do. I cant wait til they back for when ever they are ready. ARMY can wait.
Thank you for this really well presented and thought out discussion about a conversation that we got to be privy to with Jimin and RM. Your observations are spot on, and it's an "excited anxiousness" that I'm feeling about when they all come back together as 1 . The music that will come from THAT will be some AWESOMENESS for sure!
Ur style of narration is absolutely beautiful and perfect. U laid out my each feeling and thoughts so perfectly and professionally that I think u deserve an applaud. This convo had literally brought tears in my eyes, I was feeling so overwhelmed while watching them. It was as if I could feel rm's pain and sadness and yet i couldn't because it's really difficult to put myself in his situation. The world sees them as a boy band of 7 artists who somehow broke barriers and became successful. What they don't know and see is how much sacrifices they had to make, how many conflicting emotions they had to deal with, top it with the immense pressure of the industry. All I can say is that my respect for them have grown ten fold, especially for rm. And it's so considerate of u to point out the fact about jin, which many fail to acknowledge.
I loved this analysis. I also liked how you started out by detailing the psychology behind Jimin and RM’s conversation before starting the video. It makes me want to go back and watch the “MiniMoni” episode again to see it for myself.
I agreed with V when he stated in a live (the last one??) that when they all get out, they should take a trip all together with no cameras. He even suggested going to see the northern lights. I thought it was a brilliant idea and I hope they do it. I think it will be too soon to expect content and concerts in 2025. They will need time for lots of things before they are ready. Fighting ! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Just love BTS for their honesty. They potrude what I was unable to express thru their music. They got me going during my downs and paint a smiley picture on my face. Just love them