The Poor Beggar's Feast
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- čas přidán 27. 04. 2024
- Who helped the poor in the 18th century? Was there infrastructure for that? They were begging if to build poor houses, but what about the sick? How did the down and out live? What was the poor beggar’s feast?
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Hi. You don't know me, and probably don't remember my dad, Tom. He got to meet you a few years ago. He portrayed the American long hunter. He passed away last week, and I just wanted to say thank you for meeting with him. He was really proud of that. So, thank you.
I’m sorry for your loss.
@@lilykatmoon4508 thank you
sorry about your Dad, may he rest in peace
I remember that video. I was impressed with the portrayal. I'm sorry for your loss.
I am so sorry for your loss.
My grand-mamma was born in a "poorhouse" about 1890, got out, married to a fisherman, my grandfather, they had 7 offspring, one is my late father...
I am 75 years old.
Always nice to see when seniors interact with modern technology both for their own entertainment and benefit, and to share their stories.
My hat's off for you sir, or madame.
I tell you what, as awful as poorhouses were, we're worse off without them.
@@KairuHakubi yeah, I know. The stories are all negative and filled with abuse. But they had lives and community. Now the drug addicts roam the streets in gangs.
God bless
Sir, I say this in the most respectable way possible: You are, indeed, living history.
As one who works in a modern, inner-city, "poor-focused" hospital, I can verify that MUCH of what you describe still exists very strongly today. This video is a fascinating study.
Here in China we used to be the poorest country in the world. There was a lot of poverty a generation ago. Today however, there is less poverty than in many Western countries.
@@Mr.Patrick_Hung Mainly not absolute poverty, but relative poverty.
@@laciepyu255 We certainly had absolute poverty decades ago. However today, although salaries are lower than in the West, the cost of living is also low. Outside of the first tier cities, the basics are inexpensive. Rent, rice and cabbage are cheap. Frozen imported American pre-made meals are ridiculously expensive.
Details, please!
Sadly they turn to crime as an occupation though. Pretty tough to blame them when cities refuse to convict or punish it.
My grandmother's mom died when she had two daughters, the day after giving birth to the third. Her widower immediately SOLD them to a local orphanage and GAVE the newborn to another family. My grandmother had a reputation for being a bit hard, but did she ever come by it. The orphanage sold the children's labor to local farms and abused the children when they weren't working. I can't even imagine what their childhood must have been like -- no kindness, no tenderness at all. They didn't reconnect with their lost sister until they were adults.
My dad once overheard a conversation between his mom and aunt when they were both in their 70s saying things like, "Look at us -- so many times we thought we'd die young and no one would ever know or care, and here we are two old women with grandchildren ... "
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Wow. You come from survivors!
It's the same with orphans now. Wards of the State are placed in receiving homes and group homes where private investors make a profit off of them. Boys go to farms and job corps, and girls go to foster homes where they are overwhelmingly domestic servants and nannies.
Lmao 😂
@@FreedomJane-bx4um In what country? Social-Media World? The US has almost entirely gone to a government-funded foster care system instead. It gets, and deserves, plenty of criticism, but not for what you describe. The only orphanage left where I know people who grew up there is sponsored by a private trust and the kids I knew loved it compared to the troubled homes that they came from. They had healthy house-parents in multiple, large homes, went to the local public schools with homework help at home, had their own gardens, did raising and showing of their own sheep in 4H, hosted service projects for the community, and otherwise had as normal / healthy a kid's life as possible. There was no cost for most families (only if they were upper income and could contribute) and they refused government funding because of all the strings that came attached. They did fundraisers in the community once or twice a year to help make up what the trust couldn't fully fund. All that to say that there is some _excellent_ work done in this field, too.
My family was displaced by WW2 and both sides of my grandparents had to beg and forage in the wild the first few years of their lifes to survive. This kind of destitution is not as far removed from the West as it seems nowadays. We should commend all our ancestors for their incredible fortitude and strength to make it through the worst of times, be it 80 years back or 200 years back or 1000 years back
In rural communities in the 40's and 50's there were families working together to make thistle soup, or apple peel pies, or stealing blood and cow tails from the butchers for protein. Heck in the 70's there were still families that couldn't afford to put in plumbing while living in town. People wonder why seniors do things like save napkins and paper plates and accept food they don't need, it is because they grew up not knowing where food or clothing or materials might come from.
Agreed.
Your editor does a great job with the subtle paralaxing of the stills - it elevates the production quite a bit
Paralaxing? Isn't that like shifting backgrounds in 2d video games?
@@seronymus In general the parallax-effect is when, in a side-tracking field of view, or even in a stationary view with moving elements, those elements farther away appear to move more slowly than foreground elements. This is because the field of view is conical, and so things farther away need longer to cross that field of view than do things in the foreground, even if the elements are moving at the same speed across the field of view.
This phenomena is used by our brains as a distance cue, which is why in 2d side-scrolling games they scroll the background by more slowly than the foreground, to give an artificial sense of depth to the picture plane. In videography it makes for a more pleasant viewing experience because it lends faux- 3d effect to a 2 dimensional image, giving the viewer a greater sense of the volume of space and the relationships between the objects in it.
I hope that helps.
If he has hired help, that’s great
Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens is a great example of how Great Britain dealt with the poor children. The children were often sold from the poor house into indentured servitude.
Was it moral? Often i hear people decry that kind of thing as always being immoral and defending it as unquestionably evil. I always wonder how it is more moral to watch your children die than to give them a chance at life. Our memories are so short.
My ancestor who came over to Philadelphia with William Penn came as an indentured servant but I had always imagined he had gotten himself into some kind of debt and I never could have thought that he , possibly as a child from poor parents could have been in this situation you're talking about ... I knew they were very cruel , even to children , my mother used to tell me this even though we love England and the English .
Based
@@refrigeratormagnet1680 The people looking down their noses from their high horses at people from the past are all coddled by modern society and have never experienced the kind of abject destitution and hardship that people back then were living in that drove them to such extremes.
@@refrigeratormagnet1680 You have to think of it this way to answer your question: if the collective decision by the wealthy and powerful who run society is that some people will naturally end up in destitution- then is it moral to use your power to create only a single avenue to escape it? That avenue being one where children of poor families become the literal property of some of these wealthy people? Society does not "naturally" have people who can barely survive: the people at the top make conscious decisions about how to organize society that create this suffering.
So yes, it is evil, because many policy decisions were made by the rulers, who are either the wealthy people, or those who are in the pockets of wealthy people.
One of my ancestors came over after the Battle of Culloden as an indentured servant, worked his indenture, then kept working for his former master for wages. He saved up enough to send back to Scotland for one of his relatives, he can over, moved in with the first guy, found work, and they both started saving to send back for two more relatives. Rinse and repeat until the entire extended family was in New England and they started spreading down to Kentucky, then Illinois, where my mother was born on the old family farm.
Scots in my family followed that path NE, Illinois, Kentucky.
@@Magoover1 There were a number of Scots who started out in NE and followed that path to Illinois.
My fifth great grandfather was wounded in Monmouth, he came home to find one of his sons was bonded out, kidnapped his son back, and was charged with kidnapping. What a wild time.
He was charged with kidnapping ... are you saying he then went to prison ?
Was he never vindicated ... please tell us the rest of this .
@@gardensofthegods Charges were dismissed but he had to pay 50 dollars and keep the peace for 12 months. But do you want to hear about the time he made counterfeit money? Stole a hog ? Or the valley forge experience? 😂
What happened to them then? Did they escape? Edit: Sorry didnt see you answered that already. Good on him!
@@MapleHillMunitions $50 back then was probably equal to thousands .
Yeah I'd like to hear about the counterfeit money and I know there was a lot of it especially by the time of the Civil War later on .
Yeah I really want to hear about it and then after that you can tell me about the stolen hog .
And since I'm from suburban Philly and we used to go sledding at Valley Forge and I love history yes I'd love to hear about it .. yeah all of it and I'm the one who was the little girl that always wanted to hear one more story and I love stories .
Sometimes when people tell me their stories if they're really good and they have a knack with words I encourage them to get it copyrighted and get it published
Also I'm sure your ancestors and those who passed down the stories would be glad that you're keeping them alive .
It always bothers me when some people have no interest in knowing anything about the people who came before them and they don't even ask their parents or relatives about any of those stories
You guys as well as Tasting History with Max Miller have taught me more about history than school has taught me
Same
What I love is that they teach the history of the everyday. It isn’t (always) high-ranking officials, major events, wars, etc. It’s teaching about how ordinary people got by day-to-day.
@@terminallumbago6465 It really is great that they do that. To be fair, most school history teachers would love to teach on this level. The problem is first, getting kids to sit still for the instruction, and second, that the social studies teacher is usually expected to do a lot of the heavy lifting of teaching the kids thinking skills that allow them to make sense of historical fact- to ask themselves useful questions, draw conclusions from primary sources, and have enough of the basic facts that they can put interesting new facts into context.
It makes for a lot of "boring work" that isn't nearly as entertaining to work your way through as a kid than just being taught cool lectures on specific things you happen to be interested in.
@@roguenerd23 I think school in many ways is more about teaching kids HOW to learn and establishing soft skills rather than about any specific content.
I love your strong emphasis thought out your videos on understanding our ancestors. It’s so so important to not be so quick to pass judgement through a modern lens.
America was a nation of farmers well into the 19th century and there was always, always a need for farm labor. This type of labor was considered semi-skilled. From there, one could get a job in a small factory such as glass, brick and tile or pottery. It was the unskilled, very young, widowed or unwell people that ended up in the poor house and that is the reason why administrators didn't know what to do with them.
The fact they made you wear a badge if you happend to be one so misfortuned feels so surreal and is incredibly saddening, shaming those that already have nothing and then taking their dignity as well... I think it is really important that history like that is shared and not forgotten so that hopefully something like that will never happen again, though i still see it now even in a comfy first world country there are still many much less fortuned then others despite all the technological marvels we invented over the years, despite all the progress me made, it is sad and i wish it was different.
Unfortunately it is happening, again. Tennessee first state to make camping or sleeping outdoors a FELONY
What I find funny back then in the time frame John does brown bread brown sugar/molasses was cheaper since less work was put into which is why white bread and white sugar was more expensive. Now a days it's the opposite white bread and white sugar is less expensive. Using now a days they make it strait to white sugar and add the molasses back in to make the grade of brown sugar they want. Back then the more the refined to white sugar then more you paid
Brings to mind Laura Ingalls Wilder. Maple sugar was used for everyday use. White sugar was saved for company.
Thank you Townsends team, a very important part of our history and our present.
This is my first time coming across this channel. I am going to check out some more videos. Thank you for so much information broadened around the idea of food. It really isn't something people really think about too much. I had no idea that was basically how hospitals formed here in the US. Kind of dark beginnings.
Here in Sweden the government still in 1920 had a system for orphaned children to be offered to the ”lowest bidder”. The one who wanted the least amount of money for taking in the children got custody.
This was called ”auction of the poor”..
Of course these children were often more of less slaves.
One child here in the north spent his first ten years being called ”the dog”. Had to live under the kitchen table and given scraps of food and the bottom scrape of the porridge.
Eventually the postman realized what was being done and rescued the boy from that home.
He grew up to become quite a succesful entreprenuer.
My mom helped publish a book about his life.
Doesnt seem so long ago. People really dont know how good things are today..
My grandmother used to make what we called 'dishwater soup'. Dishwater soup was a pot of water, one peeled potato, a peeled onion and one beet which was cooked on the coal stove. If I was lucky I got the potato.
If i was lucky i got the potato... good greaf
Boiled beet root actually pretty tasty as well (here in Ukraine it is one of main ingridients for many dishes)
Is this for real? It sounds a little far-fetched. I mean she could have just cut the vegetables, it would make a much better stew even aside from fixing the odd fairness issue. And what year was this? I mean even if it was the 50s and you're a 80 year old CZcams commenter you'd struggle to be so poor that you couldn't afford more than one potato.
@@ravebiscuits8721 It''s real. I think grandma thought the depression never ended. She also would hit the thrift stores and flea markets for bargains. Once for a gift she gave my father 2 left shoes. She said "you'll walk a little funny but they were only $0.50".
@@ravebiscuits8721 fairness = more food for the people who work to bring in income
Yes! My favorite Sunday morning activity at 0900 Eastern. A cup of coffee and Townsends latest drop.
Edit: and when I hear the words Beggars & Feast together, I cannot help but think of Les Mis..the Thenardiers… (live not the movie!)
And Orthodox Palm Sunday 🌴☦️
As the situation in the world gets worse and worse and my situation with it, your channel becomes more and more valuable to me EVERY DAY. I use so much of your recipes for the poor to survive. (central Europe btw)
I have someone on my Mom's side of our family, came to the US from Ireland as an indentured servant
Yes same here my mother's ancestor who came over with William Penn was an indentured servant .
My mother’s grandmother was an indentured servant. Her husband paid off her debt, married her. She was German.
Sad that people look upon new migrants with as much hatred as they did all the way back then. I hope I never become one of those ivory tower twats, we were all once migrants in search of a betted life, it wasn't easy to get to where we are, the amount of racism the Irish experienced was insane
i'd imagine many of us do, I have quite the english/welsh and irish background but my mothers side is all over europe and what little I do know of my fathers side is also european and mexican.
Nothing like going to watch a show about beggars and poverty BUT FIRST ARBYS BRISKET MANWICH commercial!
my mother grew up on a dairy farm during the depression. She always said they never had much money but always had plenty to eat.
These videos are food for the soul… 😊
Always love your work, keep it up please.. these subjects are difficult for people to swallow but as someone that's spent a quarter of his life homeless in the modern age, it's easy to see how detached humanity has become from reality itself.
These subjects remind me that not everyone lacks awareness and that these problems are far easier to surmount in the modern age compared to the 18th century.
Hello 👋 I'm a new subscriber from ontario canada and it was the same here but in history we learn about the American revolution here to and most of canada 🇨🇦 was still wild and we are taught alot about the voyagers fur traders/ explorer's thank you for everything 😀 😊
If you're alone, making minimum wage in America, you're just a step or two above an indentured servant.
The only difference between now and then is climate control, clean running water, modern medicine, electricity on demand, the phone you use to make that comment that connects you to unlimited free information and entertainment.
Just small stuff like that.
@@jimmysp4des229 Access to all of that goes out the window if your rent gets jacked up and you get thrown out on the street. Or if you can't afford your internet bill, phone bill, or astronomical medical bills on top of the basic cost of food and shelter. The modern advancements are here, but just like in the 18th century not everybody gets to use them.
since when does the US have clean running water? I thought that's more like an EU thing?
@@PySnekit’s clean just the taste depends on state
@@jimmysp4des229 The thing is, there are a bunch of countries where being poor isn't quite as much of a painful grind as it is in the US. And they all have air conditioners, running water, electricity, and smartphones, too. They even have modern medicine for the single minimum-wage worker, which said worker probably can't afford in the US.
Our modern infrastructure isn't actually directly powered by suffering. The people who cause the poor to suffer don't get to pretend that it doesn't matter how the poor are doing, just because somebody invented smartphones and that automatically means everything is okay.
The origin of hospitals and healthcare sounds like a great basis for future videos!
Insanely well said at the end. Amazing insight. Thanks for the video!
I really appreciate the cooking in these videos, but also the history lesson, which helps reminds me to be grateful for what I have today, which is quite helpful when I'm feeling down.
Thanks Jon and Crew 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🌹
Kids at school should listen to your videos. Food is something everyone can understand, and it helps connect the mind to realities of the time. Never got that out of a text book.
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for making this video.
Beaurifully done essay, sir. Again I'm so pleased with your behind the scenes work and your matter of fact and very humanitarian presentation... a stand out against so much that is out there. Kudoes, and thank you so much.
Thanks for the great video. Jon Be Safe and Keep Up the Amazing Work!
This was just wonderfully done, thank you Townsend's...
Babe wake up, new Townsends just dropped
Indeed! Between Townsends and Tasting History our weekly need for good culinary info is sated!
Babe go to sleep, another unoriginal comment was made for hundred thousand time
I think this is one of your best videos, or at the very least one of my favorites 🙇♀️
My grandfather was a Bernardo child and was sent from England to Canada as an indentured farm hand. In the orphanage in England he was well looked after and well educated but the family in Canada was not good to him and he ran away.
Same thing happened to my great uncle. He hit the farmer on the back of the head with a shovel then rode the rails. He didn’t get back to Britain until the War when he was in uniform.
Great video. Equal parts history and cooking. Learned a lot. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the awesome content and great video!!
Thx for doing this, filming it and sharing it with us.
Another wonderful and well made video. I really enjoy your content and thank you for all the hard work you and your crew put into makeing them.
When the beggars feast looks better than what I eat normally.... Beef?!?! that stuff has become so expensive :(
Beef, imho, is so good for you. It is a great healer. Try ground beef, it less expensive 😊
I hear you there! Today, I can eat relatively cheaply if I stay away from expensive beef, salmon etc.
You need to eat cheaper cuts
@@Nan-1017 I've seen this before, let me head off the next very stupid suggestion. Cook the beef before you eat it
@@user-eu4cr2ql8w IIRC that is one of the problems nowadays - cheap cuts often do not make it to the consumers. They are set aside for industrial processing, such as mechanical separation (to make sausages) for example.
Thank you for discussing this!
I love the artwork that gets put into these videos. I know thats gotta be a lot of work to find
Hey just bingeing some Townsends. I love your channel. Keep up the great content!!!❤
i really love this channels feeling, it has a very homely warm style its nice to just have it on in the background but i of course love watching the videos 😃
Ah, yes, the poor beggars. Not to be confused with the rich beggars... politicians.
*CEOs
@@fixthefernback8030So accurate it hurts. Everyone but the CEOs, obviously.
Oh no won’t someone think of the poor CEOs profits?!
So true
I was gonna mention that but didn't want to soil the thread.
This type of video is my absolute favourite, thank you so much for uploading, love ur stuff :3
I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work!
Excellent research and storytelling!
I've never been this early for a Townsends video. Truly a morning blessing. God bless, Jon.
My Grandmother was born in 1902 in IN. Not sure what was in place for the poor then but my Great-grandfather ran off and my Great grandmother had to farm out my Grandmother to help the family survive.
Great content Jon, like always!
I could keep watching these kinds of videos forever ngl
Love all the content this channel produces!!!
This was beyond reflective. Stay gold.
Looking forward to doing this myself. Thank you for the information.
I love this series so much, I instantly lit up when I saw it pop up. What a way to start my Monday!
Oh dear Lord, that brotn for breakfast thing takes me back. There were a couple of times my Grandpa Larson bought two thermoses to his compass adjusting Job. One had the coffee, the other had a nice hearty broth. He used to call it the Beggar's Breakfast. Now I know why. He was a Professor of Naval History in Bellingham Washington. I got my passion for history partly from him.
Thanks for the memory. 😊
The Surgeon General of the United States is always an Admiral because he was originally the supervising Surgeon of the Marine Hospital Service, established in 1798. This was a manditory, single payer heathcare-insurance plan for those engaged in the maritime trades, the largest domestic industry of the time. This replaced a similar institution established by Queen Elizaberh I. It collected a small fee from those covered. From it sprang all other healthcare plans, including the VA, so that by 1904, it became the National Public Health Service while retaining it's distinct program. The MHS, one of the most successfull government programs ever enacted, was active until 1982, when Ronald Reagan abolished it as "socialism" for the benefit of the commercial insurance industry.
Being poor is subjective. I was raised with next to nothing. However everyone around us lived the same. Looking back we were poor but never poor of spirit.
Obviously the topic is monetary destitution
Townsends, This video is fantastic! I liked it a lot!
You need more of these type of videos
I really love this series, it'd be awesome if in future vids we get to see more of the regional variations in what would make up such a feast even among equivalent class backgrounds
"Please sir more soup."
the poor you have with you always
‘Life was hard, people died young and were treated horribly, they lived a life of hard work, disease, crime and filth.
Anyways here’s a great recipe for beef stew!’
I jest but it is eye opening to consider that these were living people and I’m trying to understand it through modern eyes
I’m glad to know that although poverty is still real, there is now a better degree of support and luxury that would make our predecessors smile.
Just want to say I appreciate your content, nothing else to add :)
Well done once again, Mr. Townsend.
I really like end of the video with CZcams aspects, the composition is nice. Thumbs up video creators and postprocessing guys ❤ at least on phone, idk how it looks on PC
The plate up at the end looked great, that suet pudding looked so good.
Not sure if you've done one before but I would be interested to see a video on a meal that was from foraged/hunted/fished ingredients only.
I just really appreciate the focus you've been putting on lives of the poor in colonial America and the early United States. It's something that is rarely focused on, especially in historical reenactment. It's like our view of that time period is as long as you're not a slave, or have graduated from indentured servitude, you've accessed the middle class. That was not the case, so I very much appreciate this series of videos elucidating that topic.
Love this channel
"any kind of health issue can immediately push a family into poverty" are we still talking about the 18th century
There's a channel on London History by J. Draper, she covers the entirety of London's history from its founding to present day, but she has a video dedicated to the life of servants in the Victorian era. Very insightful for those who want more on that very specific topic.
One of the best Ye Olde English channels.
When you said "dirty jobs", i imagined Mike Rowe doing an 18th century 'Dirty Jobs' tv show.
Goes to show how revolutionary that show was if its the definition of that phrase in our minds 😂
That exists! Check out Worst Jobs in History with Tony Robinson.
@@nahte123 Interesting. Because Mike Rowe is a theater kid trying to act like a tough guy laborer, whereas Tony Robinson is a theatre kid doing fun historical stuff.
Worst jobs in history is great
My Wife’s grandfather escaped from a workhouse in northern England and stowed away on a ship to Canada with a friend. He’d just turned fourteen and we found out that that was the age at which schooling stopped and physical labour began.
Thanks!
It's funny, that's the exact supper I had tonight.
As always, great video.
This channel is incredible
Quite possibly my favorite channel on youtube.
One of my favorite channels
History of the work houses makes Foucault's connection of hospitals and prisons make more sense.
Whats crazy to me is that all these dishes from old times that were considered "Poor people food" are nowadays, some of the best food that exists. You literally just made a crockpot roast with veggies. That is some of the best and most wholesome eating you can get these days.
I always identify with the poor people you talk about. I'm not wealthy and live on my social security. I am so grateful that I am living now as opposed to the 18th century.
Regarding the point about hospitals being poorhouses originally - it's worth noting that medicine didn't have a lot of the big equipment that needs a centralized care facility in those days. No heart rate monitors, oxygen tanks, let alone all the fancy diagnostic equipment. So a doctor coming out to your house could give you the best care they could possibly offer. If you were at that financial tier, you could hire someone to do the kind of monitoring that patients in hospital get today (again, minus the whole technology aspect). So if you were bedridden at home, you'd have doctors doing their best work, hired help dedicated to *your* care rather than caring for all the patients in your ward like at a hospital, and the same kind of food you'd eat normally (hospitals are *starting* to get past the terrible food thing, but that was a major problem with hospital stays for a long time, well after they started resembling more a modern medical facility than a 19th century house for the poor and sick.) All in all, you'd get better care at home than at hospital.
I love how you not only explain the foods people ate at different times and in different areas/roles of society, but also teach the history that goes along with it.
Love these "poverty series" videos, so fascinating. As you said, they are talked about very little!
Taken from The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood (set in the 12th century):
"Why," quoth the Beggar, peeping into the mouths of his bags, "I find here a goodly piece of pigeon pie, wrapped in a cabbage leaf to hold the gravy. Here I behold a dainty streaked piece of brawn, and here a fair lump of white bread. Here I find four oaten cakes and a cold knuckle of ham. Ha! In sooth, 'tis strange; but here I behold six eggs that must have come by accident from some poultry yard hereabouts. They are raw, but roasted upon the coals and spread with a piece of butter that I see-"
That's fiction. And the beggar was a bandit. Most of that, if not all, would have been stolen.
@@Alacritous I'm currently listening to it on Audible. You are correct. Robin was looking to trade clothes with a beggar and he found a very successful bandit instead.
As a history and culinary nerd, I love this channel. Finding someone who has such a niche interest is rare, this is the only guy who can do it! Ever since I visited Sturbridge Village on a school field trip, I’ve been enamored with the way our ancestors used to live. It was a simpler time.
Mr. Townsend: What is a feast to a poor beggar?
Me: HE SAID THE THING 🤩
A severe illness can put someone into poverty you say..... why does that seem so familiar....
I really enjoyed this video.
It is depressing how little has changed about how we treat the poor. At least we don't make them wear badges anymore...?
There's still poor people in England, times are hard, poverty is in a different form now.
Yes just like here in America and it's terrible what has happened in this country with so many people
It is amazing how much "poor" food is still a common thing to this day. I have several recipes from my great-grandma who grew up during the depression and they're mostly variations of beef/potatoes/flour. To me it was just a simple meal, it took until I was older to realize it was out of necessity.
I need videos made this fascinating for my music history and theory review classes lol. Found them already for my regular history stuff
I love this series.