The Working Man's Dessert
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- It can be kind of funny for us to think about what dessert was like for the working class in 18th century America. There was no ice cream, or was there? Fruit, cake, fritter? Find out right here in The Working Man’s Dessert!
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Beer, the working man's desert 😂
Works for me
And breakfast... and pretty much water.
Small beer though…. You’d have to drink a whole pitcher to feel buzzed (less than 1%)
Nah, Beer is the bread.
@@Malohta It's better than cholera. 😂
"a little bit of bread and cheese and some beer makes a good meal"
As a German, I can confirm that this still is true today 👍
Add an onion and you’d be in England.
@@clogs4956 Make it dark rye bread, lard, extra matured cheese, aspic, onion, a shot of dark rum poured over it and you'd be in Denmark.
@@natviolen4021 can't forget the dill !
@@HlfEtnBread No dill on my ostemad. 😁
I would positively consider cress and radishes, though.
@@natviolen4021 god i love cheese.
I'm immediately adding a daily event to my calendar called "Cheesing time". If my employer asks about it I'll send them this video.
Cheese all over those guys
On the one hand, I agree wholeheartedly with having a set meal just for snacking on cheese and drinking beer.
On the other hand, I do hope your employer isn't familiar with South Park. 😶
Pasties allow you to eat them with your hands dirty. You'd hold the crimped, sealed edge and eat the pocket. When you were done, you'd discard the edge you were holding since it was dirty from being held. I don't remember where I learned this, but I believe it was mainly in reference to coal miners so they wouldn't be getting their food full of coal dust.
I thought it was in the Cornish tin mines, hence Cornish Pasties
This is true, and the pizza crust served the same purpose
These are still popular in northern Michigan.
I wonder if the animals would eat the crusts after the fact. ( I also thought of Cornish tin)
@@didjitalone9544 Absolutely. The crimped edge on any small pie or pasty is simply to contain everything for baking. It's going to be the densest, most tasteless part of the food, so it gets tossed out often enough anyways, making it a convenient "handle" for dirty hands. But plenty of people were eating these as street food in the cities and towns who weren't particularly concerned with getting dirt on their food.
Breakfast, lunch, and dinner are essential for energy and health. Dessert is essential for morale.
Having more than three meals a day is a common practice. In NOLA the second meal of the day is longshoreman''s breakfast, a hearty meal in comparison to the coffee and bread at the first of the day. Many farming communities have the large breakfast after morning chores are done. So, as The Shire is an agricultural community, a hobbits "second breakfast" is not a silliness.
I sometimes make a large pot of soup and just eat it all day. Heck, I have a Molle II that I put veggie broth with tiny diced up veg in during the winter months. I'm like a hummingbird at the peak of summer with that thing, and I have like 2 percent body fat, so I need the warmth or I die. 😂😂😂
I eat like two meals a day because I have a life lol
I believe hobbits also have a "pre lunch" after second breakfast 😂
@@TheGryfonclaw Sounds like you don't live in New Orleans.
@@TheGryfonclaw Eating nice meals with friends and family IS life, once you've gotten the basics down.
My mother would core an apple and stuff it with butter and brown sugar and bake it in the oven.
Those are so good. If you score the skin, it's much easier to eat them.
Need to try this. Max Miller did it on a Tasting History episode (adding cinnamon). Looks gooood.
Same here, except we normally used the microwave. We still called it a "baked apple".
The 90s were a wild time. People actually thought microwaves were used for cooking and not just reheating.
Add Cinnamon
My mom, too. I tried it while living on my own and I just couldn't get it the same. Asked her and she said she added just a drop of vanilla extract. Delicious.
My Grandparents were hired hands on a farm. My Grandma would help in kitchens to feed the harvest workers and everyone else on different farms around the area. But usually the harvesters, hired hands and families would eat together. But the children were always served first, then the adults. She told us how she was helping one lady at harvest cooking and this lady was very vocal about how the kids were going to have to wait until the adults finished eating (not just served, but actually finished with the meal.) My Grandma, even though she was still young in her 20s, put her foot down and those kids got their plates filled first and ate with everyone else. Funny how different families even in the same area had such different ways of doing things.
We always make sure to let kids go first. They can get as much food as they would like. They are growing and need to eat well :)
The apple fritters are a popular dish in our region (Interlaken, Switzerland) and are called "Öpfelchüechli". The recipe from 1940 (Bernerkochbuch) reads as follows:
100g Flour
1 pinch of Salt
1 Teaspoon of Sugar
1/3 cup Water
3 Egg Yolks
1 Spoon of Vinegar
1 Spoon of Olive Oil
3 Beaten Egg Whites
Apples or Pears
Sugar and Cinnamon to sprinkle.
Preparation is the same as in the video.
As it was war time in Europe, when the book was published, there is an alternative recipe right there:
150g Flour
1 dl Water
1 dl Milk
a little Salt
2 Egg Yolks
2 Beaten Egg Whites
Apples or Pears
As you see, the recipe John showed us is essentially the recipe people fell back to, when food was rationed. Today "Öpfelchüechli" are served with a sweet vanilla sauce.
I screebshotted this for my pear-loving bestie. Thank you!
Pudding can still mean dessert. For example "if you don't eat your meat you can't have any pudding" from Pink Floyd.
Yep. I’ve read some British writers mentioning the pudding (desert, cookies/biscuits) to go with their tea.
I remember getting really frustrated as a young'un about the older folks using 'pudding' and 'tea' to mean not pudding or tea but 'dessert' and 'dinner'. Not sure if that was just neurodivergency or simple childish literal thinking at work.
Yea it's a Britishism. We changed to dessert
Yeah on top of still havin different meanings- for me an American in the south puddin is that creamy soft right in between liquid and solid consistency sweetish snack usually found in lunch boxes (Snack Pack brand being the main one already pre made bought from the grocery store that comes in little plastic cups with different flavors), in powder form from Jell-O brand being the main one that you have to make yourself about 50/50 premade home made (still easy to make), or can be made fully from scratch home made (still really easy to make) and it's never been seen as a desert on it's own per say more like a snack sweet treat or added to things that actually are seen as a dessert (layered pudding cake, pudding pie, banana pudding, etc) 😋
To be honest it wasn't until I was older that I realized puddin had a different meaning and for a while thought the other meaning of our word only applied to people of the past (thank A Christmas Caroll for that 🤣) didn't know it was still a thing in England but I was probably just being a dum dum kid 😅 It's really interesting how words can have so many different meanings sometimes drastically different.
He explained in this video.
Our purple corn is planted and it was a good spring for Maple Syrup in WV. So we will be making this pudding in September. Thank you for all of the great content!
Sounds lovely.
Ooooh nice. Do you think purple corn tastes a lot different from yellow ones? I find it has an interesting taste, maybe it's the cyanidin
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@brokenglassshimmerlikestar3407 Definitely a flavor difference from yellow. We don't use it for sweet cornbread but it's great with a big pot of beans! I'm sure with the maple syrup it will be good in the pudding. I'm unapologetically biased though, when you grow the corn and boil the maple sap yourself it automatically tastes better, if it doesn't I'll never tell.😁
@Neenerella333 Thank You!
"Ice cream! That'll will make a good lunch,"
My baby brother agrees with this lol.
Your baby brother and my kid nephew would get along really well...😅
The other night I worked late, and walked home not knowing what I was gonna have for dinner... Then realized I had a chocolate Oreo milkshake in the freezer... Best. Dinner. Ever. 😂😂
I'm with your brother! (And since I'm a grownup, no one can tell me no.)
@Yesica1993 My baby brother is 22 now lol. Dude can go for an ice cream in the middle of winter.
@@rakkis1576 I'm old enough to be his mom. And I love ice cream in winter too. Brain twins!
My grandfather and his father grew up as share-croppers. And sweets were always a treat. They would tell me how on Sunday for dessert they would have biscuits and molasses after supper.
Same with my father, his father was a sharecropper and one of his favorite desserts is biscuits and syrup
My father loved molasses and corn bread for a treat. His father had been raised a sharecropper but had learned to weld in the Navy in WW2 which had given him a trade.
My mom grew up on stuff like that. I learned to love both molasses and cane syrup as a result.
@@SewardWriter haha i was exposed to them but never did learn to like either :p
I adore biscuits and molasses.
Here in the UK, pudding still means dessert more generally. For instance, most people over here say "What's for pudding?", not "What's for dessert?". I don't know when or why pudding became the word for custard over there in the states.
As a canadian, can confirm. Worked with some ladies living in ireland or scotland and wales at the time and the phrase "What's for puddin' ?" Was used a lot.
Most likely from the jello company. They started selling “jello puddings” (custard desserts) and pudding became synonymous with jello/custard.
I love how they called dessert "pudding" even if they would have another dish. In portuguese, breakfast is literally called "morning's coffee" no matter what you are having. It shows the level of importance it has in our culture.
My mom-in-law taught our kids to make little apple pies. It was the first thing they learned to make. Happy Mother's Day to her and all you amazing Nutmeg Moms!
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It's still a customary to provide food/meal to the people you hire to harvest your field, repair something, or renovate your house.
I don't remember the title or the author, but I once read a short story where a poor boy died with the unfinished business of wanting to try candy. He loved apples but was too poor to buy candy. Then somebody gave the poor ghost some candy and it was way too disgustingly sweet for his palate, and he could finally rest in peace. 😅 I don't know why, but that story stuck with me and I think of it often.
I'm perfectly willing to believe in 'ghosts with unfinished business', but little boys who don't like candy? Get off it....😅
If you have never had sweetened food before sugar tastes bitter to the tongue. I've seen it mentioned before in older books, that when they had offered candy to children in slums they would wince and ask why it was bitter.@@raraavis7782
My wife would drop those apple tarts in the deep fryer. A simple dough of flour(all purpose), baking soda, a dash of salt and hot water. Filling is apples(can be any fruit, actually), some cinnamon, and a small amount of sugar. Usually the apples are precooked, then wrapped in thin rolled dough and then deep fried. Myself and the grandchildren love these.
That sounds lovely! Thank you for sharing
I'm expecting more pears on my tree this year. Will try the little pasty with them.
A little honey never hurt apple dishes.
A Kentucky Twist on your Apple Turnovers are a Fried version of the same dessert. Here in Kentucky, the Amish still make them as a sweet treat. They are an affordable mid afternoon treat to eat on an afternoon between lunch and supper.
My grandpa had to have something sweet to end his meal, just a bite. He often had honey or blacksterp on a biscuit
this is an amazing channel, have been having a busy life and feeling down for a while, but these videos are perfect for some wholesome and even informational content
thanks for all the effort, hope you and anyone else seeing this as well has an awesome day o7
From what I’ve been able to find out, “pudding” means “a measure of suet” because the word pudding used with so many different foods
Black pudding-blood sausage
Figgy pudding -a boiled dough
Yorkshire pudding-oven fried popover
It’s all derived from the use of suet in the recipe.
Yorkshire pudding was
always made in a big dish or tin and somehow better than the popover they do today. Try it. I always do it that was the popover is a very modern version. And not made with suet at all but maybe suet was used for the fat to melt in the tin before the batter is poured in. There were no vegetable oils when I was a child and olive oil was for salads only
@@marleneclough3173 yes, traditionally Yorkers were made from suet or dripping from the roast.
When I make them at home I use bacon drippings.
@@Menuki oh I get the beef suet and pork back fat from a butcher and render myself in the slow cooker. A real.butvher though not a supermarket
@@marleneclough3173 i used to work as a butcher for a restaurant and Americans have little to no concept of suet, so I kept it all. We’d get entire primals of short loins.
But you can’t beat hints smoke and spice from bacon fat
@@Menuki sounds wonderful who doesn't love bacon but I never have enough really to make enough fat for the Yorkshire pudding! Lucky you!
The word pudding is still used to mean dessert in Northern England, the Midlands (central England) and Northern Ireland!
This usage always makes me think of the line from Pink Floyd's Another Brick in the Wall Part 2 - “If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding!"
And many people up here in Scotland do too, especially in the midlands of Scotland (not sure about the Highlands but I wouldn't be suprised if it's also the case there)
Yep! Always said pudding growing up, never dessert
Where I'm from (East Midlands) pudding is used almost exclusively to describe any baked or prepared sweet course at the end of a meal e.g. anything from cake to custard to apple pie. Only time you see the word dessert used is on a restaurant menu. Colloquially "pudding" is common and universal!
English English is so funny. "Tea" means the mealtime when you typically have tea.. pudding means the mealtime when you have pudding. it's such a roundabout way of naming things that works perfectly fine in an isolated language area.
I’m curious how the apples of today compared to the apples they had back then and if that would significantly change things like how sweet these dishes turned out.
Our store bought apples today are almost tasteless by comparison and not really very well for cooking. There is an orchard in north Carolina called century orchard that saved and still sells many heirloom varieties from the golden days such as johnson keepers,limbertwigs,starman winesaps,etc. Their very helpful on their website and even produce a little catalog theyll mail out upon request.
Growing up, we had an apple tree that grew from seed. So, not really a heritage variety, but something like traditional apples. They weren't really less sweet than the store-bought kind, but they were much softer and had a mealy texture. I would guess was true for most traditional varieties, which is perhaps why old recipes never tell you to parboil apples. While unpleasant for eating out of hand, they made excellent pie filling especially because the skin wasn't tough or thick. I prefer to leave the skin on when cooking apples, in order to get the strongest flavor.
@@sophiejones3554 Theres alot of subtle differences between the varieties too. Some are great for baking,some for eating fresh,and others are best for cider as and vinegar. I imagine that old farms and homesteads used to grow a wide variety to have early apples and late apples so they could have vinegar for cleaning, cider for drinking and cooking apples thatd keep in a cellar throughout winter.
@@ciphercode2298 Yep, you dont want to take big bite of a cooking apple 🤢
4:40 just looks SO good to me its like cookie dough balls but somehow strangely better looking?
Fun fact from a British (Scottish specifically) person; Many of us here in the UK still use Pudding as synonymus with Dessert. There are specific food items called pudding ofc but at meal times myself and pretty much everyone I know will interchangebly use dessert or pudding when refering to the after meal treat.
Don't some Scots call haggis "pudding"?
@TheCoffeehound Yep, because Haggis is a savoury pudding by classification
Not really just Scottish - the whole of the UK uses the word pudding
@joannebarlow3900 Yee! Sorry, when I said Scottish specifically, I meant myself. I opened with British to mean it was a British saying, then clarified that I'm Scottish
I grew up in the American Southwest. Many people don't realize that different kinds of corn have different flavors as well as color.
And I think doing the Indian Pudding with blue corn would just look cool...
Yup! Corn is scrumptious.
A fair amount of Asia has rediscovered that corn is excellent in sweet dishes and desserts. Corn ice cream for one, or sweet rice porridge with corn. There is a reason why corn syrup is ubiquitous in North America.
Peruvian Chicha Morada is a sweet spiced purple corn beverage; very tasty
I wish currants were more popular in America. I love them.
Would you say they are not....current? (Had to lol)
@@ZamboniZone Nice
There’s a good reason for that-black currant plants carry a fungus that destroys white pines and threatened the U.S. timber industry. It was federally banned from 1911 to 1966 and banned by many states up until recently, when cultivators found some ways to deter the spread of the fungus. It’ll take a little while yet for black currants to catch on here. I’ve had them, and they’re great.
@@klawiehr interesting, thanks for sharing
@@klawiehr I'm all for keeping invasive plants out if it means my enjoyment of currants is limited to imported jams and chocolate.
I'd like to see more of these farm worker meals, please.
I do believe it's cheesing time.
I'm gonna go get that sorted.
I can tell that people came here in time for their just desserts. Cheers!
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Had a wonderful time meeting Jon, Ryan, and family at Martin's Station yesterday! Now you've got me craving something sweet to munch on haha. Great video!
I love watching your new video as I get ready for church each week ❤️
Awesome ❤
Was shocked but not surprised when you came out! I support you so much! Slay! 💅
Desert? I’m thinking sand, anvils and coyotes on acme branded rocket skates chasing roadrunners with explosive bird seed.
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OMGS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ha!
Yeah, WHY is it the same word in the English language. So confusing 😅
Why can you not starve in the desert? Because of all the sand which is there.
Must be lovely to have dinner at 1, cheese-ing at 4, then supper at 8.
A simple baked apple is tasty, and doesn't really require anything more than an apple. Sure, it's better with cinnamon and nutmeg baked inside, with a little butter. But you really don't need it. I have roasted apples placed near the coals of a campfire whole, and they tasted so good!
Hmmm. Bloody butcher cornmeal?
11:20 I''m down for "Cheesing Time" at 4pm
Every video on this channel is a dessert because each one is a treat. Ty.
Sounds like good wholesome and filling meals. The only thing missing in the recipes is nutmeg.
Pudding Balls sounds like some kind of insult
Or term of endearment.
@@codename495 touche
One of my favourite films is a fairly low budget zombie film from New Zealand called Braindead (1992) (I think it was called "Dead Alive" in North America), and there's a fairly gross dinner scene when someone shouts out "NO PUDDING?", meaning desert. You can find the clip on CZcams. So still very much used in that meaning in many parts of the English speaking world. (Braindead isn't a particularly well known film, but it was directed by Peter Jackson who later went on to make the Lord of the Rings... so worth a look. And no pudding!).
Always love a good recipe on your weekly Sunday video! I really appreciate this every weekend.
My grandmother made us kids our own little turnovers every time she made a regular pie for the family, probably from leftover crust trimmings, but they were so good. These turnovers remind me of those times as a kid. Thank you for all you do, Jon, and all the Townsend folks.
I was born in England in the early 1960s; I never learned the word “dessert” until we immigrated to Canada when I was 7. In England, “pudding” meant anything sweet eaten at the end of a meal, be it actual steamed, cooked, or baked pudding, cake, pie, some other kind of pastry like a tart, Jello (although we called it “jelly”) or ice cream.
I'm from Scotland, and "pudding" is basically just the equivalent word for dessert. It can also mean more specifically a kind of mousse, and there are also savoury outliers like black pudding or Yorkshire pudding. I'm pretty sure it's the same throughout the British isles.
11:20 BRING BACK CHEESING TIME
Thanks for sharing this with us Jon, excellent desserts and well prepared and presented .Stay safe, Fred.
I was thinking about Root Beer while watching the video and it appears to have been a thing in the eighteenth century according to Wikipedia. Close to a dessert i suppose
In the UK we still broadly use the word "pudding" to refer to dessert at the end of a meal. "What would you like for pudding?"
Absolutely love this channel. Always enjoy the content!
That corn pudding is similar to bread some of the Haudenosaunee people make, except theirs is cooked with a variety of bean in it, and sometimes berries.
Jon, Thanks once again for the informative and amazing video!
I really enjoyed this episode. It was exactly what I want from this channel. So many recipes at once! Thank you.
Bring back cheesing time haha
Babe don’t call it “girl dinner”, Jon Townsend called it “cheesing-time”
Now, it's been a long time since I was in the 18th century, but I remember meals being ended with cheese, not sweets. Sweetmeats were served before the cheese course. -Now, we weren't poor, then, so maybe that's the difference. Pudding was almost always the second to last course.
I've read about pie made of pie plant, which was the ancestor of rhubarb.
We’ve really streamlined the process by replacing both dessert and dinner with just sleep.
Or in some cases, energy drinks.
Then we can get more work done! :D
Thanks for a great video. I always enjoy these history lessons. Carry On Sir!
Even today in Britain, "pudding" is the posh word for dessert.
Bring back Cheesing Time!
I'm always so intimidated by boiling big puddings! I will definitely try the mini version and the baked one!
Half flour, half suet plus raisins are probably an important source of calories.
I love this channel. =)
Always great, so interesting and you always take my imagination back centuries. Thank you!
Here in Québec it's kinda the opposite. Back then, they used to eat sooooo much maple syrup ! Like entire pudding boiled in maple syrup instead of water!
Such a fun video. Thank you!
Dessert came from the posh houses when the dining room would be converted into a ballroom so the last course (a sweet course with expensive sugar of course) involved deserting the dining room. Ironically they didn't have to dessert the rooms for the toilet as commodes were provided in the same room. Puddings originated with savoury meat versions such as black or white puddings.
Weren't jams and preserved fruit products (not dried) available in that time? I could totally see some apricot jam to go as a dressing for any of these dishes.
In my family here in Aotearoa/ New Zealand, pudding was always something stodgy (in the nicest possible way) and filling. Steamed pudding, Rice pudding, Sago pudding, Tapioca pudding, Bread and Butter pudding, Bread pudding, Fruit pies and Crumbles and Crisps and Bettys... all guaranteed to fill bellies that may otherwise have remained a little bit empty. Anything a little more refined (and therefore lighter and less stodgy) was known as a Dessert. For some reason all the ones l can think of were chilled or frozen but, l'm not sure if the was part of the classification or just coincidence - Gooseberry or any fruit Fool, Blancmange, Flummery, Trifle, Fruit salad, Jelly, lcecream... 😊
Edited to add: l can't believe l forgot Jam RolyPoly in my list of puddings. Lovingly dubbed "Dead Man's Arm" and always served with custard, as were most of the Pies and Crumbles etc. Wanted to also add that Sago pudding was always known as Frogs' Eggs and Tapioca pudding was Dolls' Eyes despite our mother's protests.
When you say dessert, I generally think of a dish usually served after dinner, that is generally sweet in flavor profile.
The videos are so wholesome.
I'm a simple woman- I see a new video from Townsends I click sending my little history lovin heart soarin 💕😂
In England today we still say pudding instead of dessert. Thanks for the great content
Yup, when I got into British TV, and then panel shows(Taskmaster, QI, WILTY) I got confused by stuff like that, 😂 never thought I'd be whipping up Welsh 'Rabbit' because I saw it on the BBC one time...
My grandmother was born into a farming community in 1918, and it was still absolutely imperative to have a good spread during harvest. She was known for her coffee and coffee cake and it brought many a worker to our family's fields.
Great use of the word, Satisfying! Your channel is full-filling! 😁
Apple turnovers are still popular in Scotland
I’ve been loving this series! I think they actually did some things better back then than we do now lol
12:33 Wow, this is like a scene from Game of Thrones. It's such a great shot. Lighted by the window and a candle, fruits, desserts. It's like a painting.
I appreciate the attention to detail when sticking to spices available to the working man. I thought for sure we’d at least get a mention of that certain spice known to enhance apple dishes…
It's Cheesing-time!
Brutal work day, bloody hell.
Sign me up for the battered and fried apple slices, a little nutmeg and cinnamon in there
Actually, a lot of these deserts interest me, my husband's diabetic so something that's only the sweetness of the fruit, especially the hand pies. Has a great appeal.
"Pudding" can just mean "dessert" in England (with the exception of Yorkshire puddings, black pudding, white pudding, etc.). Most important meal of the day😉.
I need to stop watching your videos hungry
they all look delicious and quite doable even in today's kitchen 👍
British usage traditionally is 'pudding' (dessert still sounds American to me, though it's widely used here in the UK now). See the Oxford English Dictionary:
*Pudding* II.4.e _Chiefly British._ Any sweet dish served as a dessert. Also: the sweet course following the main course (or sometimes the cheese course) of a meal; dessert.
Can only remember my mother making puddings for Christmas - she would make it weeks before and then moisten it with rum.
When I was small my mum would make the fritters. She peeled and cored the apples then sliced them about a centimetre thick. Battered and shallow fried dusted with sugar whatever was to hand.
Boiled dough sounds like chicken and dumplings and it was my FAVORITE meal as a kid haha so I approve.
Great stuff.
I adore warm indian pudding, sweetened with molasses and accompanied by a little ice cream.
in parts of britain today (don't ask me where specifically its just something i've occasionally heard my whole life here) pudding is still used as being synonymous with "dessert" as a category name for that type for food
Really miss your sherry trifle.
Love dessert. Thanks for the history/cooking lesson. 😁