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- Join Trent Horn and me as we discuss the issues with popular Catholic influencers and celebrity converts.
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Dude. Holy cow. You got Trent horn on. This is flipping epic!
Great stuff!
Thank you!!
A really good discussion! Appreciated the different views presented. Thank you, Trent and Amber.
Thank you!
Listened to this today on CoT! So good! I remember in high school going to the public library and searching for the Cliff Notes versions of the books on our summer reading list, but they were always checked out. I did, however, score a CD reading of "Water Ship Down" to help me fast track read that bad boy!
😂😂I love that
Trent Horn and Amber Rose is the most unpredictable yet awesome Catholic CZcams collaboration.
:D
Great interview.
Thank you! ⚘️
Wow, I really enjoyed this. Thank you for sharing.
Love this conversation. Thank you Amber and Trent. ❤❤
What a great conversation! I follow Trent which led me to this podcast to which I have now subscribed. I appreciate the sharing of your knowledge and experiences.
Really loving this talk!! I just wanna give you guys a little hope for the coming up generation. I’m a millennial and I absolutely will not let my children have an iPad or any screen until they’re basically an adult. My kids are gen alpha. We don’t own a TV. We spend lots of time outside. We sit around the table and pray and read the catechism together. So yes, it’s getting better already. 😊
That’s beautiful. I want that some day
Thanks for the podcast,I really enjoyed it.
Some commentators have just gone off the rails. A couple months back, people who I used to follow were on a four-way split-screen video lamenting that women have the right to vote.
I agree! Hence the mess we are in! 🤷🏻♂️
It’s so much fun, not so fun…you kids start using nonseculars…it sound like you cant speak properly!
Thank you for sharing yourself and the faith. I am a struggling Catholic and your videos have been a help for me.
So glad theyre helping, hang in there!
Very cool conversation on this topics! Great job :)
Thanks so much!
Enjoyed listening to this! As a Catholic blogger/influencer… I have to say, letting go of Twitter for the most part has been amazing. I just can’t with all that! Would love to have both of you in our community and listed on our directory. May the Lord bless you both abundantly! ❤️ Amy Brooks
There are THOUSANDS of protestant churches. My sis left the faith, and I remember the times she said that one of the pastors left to start their own church but she was not going to follow that particular preacher
🙄 So yes, there are thousands of these denominations
There may well be thousands of Protestant denominations, but there are not anything like thirty thousand. That figure was created by counting the same denomination in multiple places as separate denominations. This is obviously absurd. A Lutheran from Minnesota might worship in a Lutheran church in Norway and consider himself in the same denomination, for example.
@@sanjivjhangiani3243I hear what your saying but I also think there are thousands because they do split off and teach/preach their "own" thing. So you may have 7 Southern Baptist churches in one town, but they hold to different doctrines depending on the Pastor. (I just threw out Southern Baptists for example purposes, I don't know if that's a problem they have in their ranks).
@@sanjivjhangiani3243 Even if one concedes the "thousands of denominations" claim, the issue of multiple (and often conflicting) interpretations on the Bible and sources of authority (and we all know there are way more than TWO Protestant groups) still plagues the Protestant no matter how much one sugar-coats it.
@@sanjivjhangiani3243 It appears that you miss the underlying point of invoking the reality of 'thousands of Protestant denominations'.
This is an honest question - are you aware that the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Churches all have the exact same 7 sacraments (though they might have slightly different terms for them) - Baptism (water), Communion (Eucharist), Confirmation (Chrismation), Confession, Marriage, Holy Orders (Priesthood) and Unction?
The definition and limits of each Sacrament might vary, but the fact is that all of the Apostolic era Churches, bar none, all agree to the underlying theology of these.
*What does this say about the Protestants denominations who deny one of more of these?*
*It appears that the only Sacrament maintained valid by ALL Protestant denomination is Marriage.* Even Holy Orders is butchered to a point where any man and his mouse can declare themselves a 'pastor' on the basis that they can read and have an interpretation of the Bible.
@@alisterrebelo9013 No, I wasn't missing the point. I am willing to concede that the implications of there being many Protestant denominations with widely differing beliefs is a major problem for the Protestant position (which I don't hold, BTW; I am Catholic). I am just saying that it's not literally true to say that there are tens of thousands of Protestant denominations. That figure was obtained by counting the same denomination separately in different countries
So many great points here!
Excellent discussion. I had to look up St John Cantius church in Chicago. Wow gorgeous church!
I’m a simple man, I see Trent Horn and I click.
Look forward to seeing Trent! The seminal Catholic apologist!
I just started my channel❤ young mom of 2, praying for a big family!
Love it
Great video, Trent is a great catholic apologist. Lately, the online catholic world has been very confusing and uncharitable, we should try to stay away of the extremes and try to stay close to God, that he may show us the way
Regarding Trent's comment about the organ: The origins of the pipe organ can be traced back to the hydraulis in Ancient Greece, in the 3rd century BC. And the use of an organ in the church came before the reformation.The first organ of which any detailed record exists was built in Winchester Cathedral in the 10th century. They weren't introduced and used only during the period of the reformation. It was much before that. (Love you Trent, but sorry....I heard you comment on that and felt compelled to correct you. 🥴 )
BTW - Trent Horn actually should write his own encyclopedia of knowledge - or perhaps together with Jimmy Akin. Those two just blow my mind. In a *good* way!
Good video
Young Catholic influencers on instagram who post pictures of themselves (sometimes multiple selfies in the same post!) and then put a random Catholic thought in the description are not worth anyone's time. They appear to be justifying selfies because there's "Catholic content" underneath. It comes across as incredibly self-absorbed and super cringe.
Read the lives of the saints instead.
Agreed!
Born in the early 80s so we are sometimes called xennials as in between Genx and Millennials. Our late teens and early 20s with dialup internet at generalized chat rooms or groups like AOL messenger and yahoo groups, we also created our own websites called geocities. In fact chat rooms here on CZcams live were similar. Then Myspace came along and started to mix the 3. Myspace had a messenger app, and can customize profiles like a website. I miss those days.
I've always heard us being called Gen Y or the Oregon Trail generation. I kinda hate that they lumped us in with the Millennials. I don't relate to them much. 😂
Definitely. I just started peeking into Twitter (X) more often, and most of the Catholic content on there is toxic and so negative. Some people seem to get addicted to doom and gloom, and sensationalize any and every scandal! I guess maybe even though it’s negative energy, its a form of excitement, and also a maybe way of getting attention and feeling like you’re part of a clique of like minded doom and gloomers? 🤷🏻♀️
I Love St John Cantius!!! I took my son there one Sunday for a totally random field trip, we live in South bend, and it was breathtaking ❤ I'm in 💯 agreement with you about beautiful church's. Especially if you're building a new church and intentionally make it look protestant. We just switched church's and I'm back at the church i grew up in, different building, the first church was in the basement of the convent/school. The new building is ugly and the blessed mother statue doesn't have a veil and the music has always sounded kind of barroom style? Anyways, never thought I'd be back, but my heart has been changed and I'm actually super grateful that our beautiful Catholic Church is willing to get into the trenches and really feed the poor in all regard. But I am grateful for the beautiful churches.
Trent did a good job debating destiny on sex work. I'm a pagan not a Catholic. Regardless though I love how Catholics value all human life & fight against the sex trade.
Love you both... you look like father and daughter 😂😂😂😂
Trent should do a video on hinduism, not a lot of apologetics material out there currently on the topic.
What’s the difference between Charismatic Catholics vs Roman Catholics?
All charismatic Catholics are Roman Catholics , but not all Roman Catholics are charismatic Catholics. The Charismatic movement, within the Catholic Church, favors emphasizing the gifts of the Holy Spirit, and involves fairly emotional mass services. For the purpose of this answer, I am neither supporting nor opposing this movement, merely describing it.
No difference. Charismatic is an adjective to describe how some catholics choose to worship.
24:42 what did you mean mass had to be done underground? Was there a tlm suppression phase?
I assume she's referring to times during the Reformation when Catholic Mass was banned in places like England and heavily censured in Ireland by the British rulers.
For example I've heard of things like the "Irish penal rosary" where it's just one decade with a ring on one end and you kept it and your hand in your pocket so as to not be seen praying it.
That said, that all happened long ago so I'm not quite getting to connection to now... but I guess it could be cultural practises that were passed down, maybe?
IT"S THE HORNS. BOW BEFOrE THEM. (if you know the reference, you know)
now you know Trents wife made an off the camera camio....
Do me a favor, and stop using none-seculars. Like: so fun…you don’t sound too smart. It’s so MUCH fun, not so fun! Get it!
Fyi pachamama was Pope Francis not JPII. Also, in regard to who raised millennials it depends. I am gen X and my kids are millennials.
It wasn’t even Pachamama.
Listen to your parish priest, not some media creator who’s age you don’t even know.(Not talking about Amber or Trent, however your parish priest should have more priority)
Not all parish priests are trustworthy, some push a liberal agenda using their office as a cudgel. Look at the scandals and the liturgical abuses , the contempt for the laity in faith and resources as the most obvious examples of how the old fashioned trust your priests is not always wise.
Amen.
1. all new church architecture must be in the style of pre 1910
2. pre 1910 style becomes post 2023 style
3. post 2023 style is not allowed
4. No new churches can be built
I'm glad Trent is not Pope
real.
Trent Horn's books should be required reading for all atheists.
You are very Cute !
Jesus was not too gentle when he went into the Temple, and whipped the money changers! Being to nice is pseudo humility!
Guitars and organs both annoy me but of the two organs are the most offensive
Oh no, why Trent?
Am i missing something? Y not trent?
@@sonu8034 Because He doesn’t see anything wrong with Suplicans
Saw him at Ben Shapiro
@@jmm91910 oh i didnt knw anything about that. What exactly happend? Can u elaborate.
Trent doesn't agree with his opinion therefore Trent is bad.
@@StringofPearls55 U mean trent doesnt agree wth ben's opinion? What was ben's opinion? Nd what was the topic? I really meant it whn i said i dnt knw anything about this.😅
I stop listening to Trent long time ago because he said that mariguana is ok because the catechism says is ok🤔
If you study how bad Mariguana is, and it’s getting worse, so I don’t trust him any more. Also I don’t think his position on the new Vatican Document Fiducia Suplicans that I heard on Ben Shapiro is not good, sometimes you have to risk it all for the truth.
Can you provide a source for the marijuana point, either the relevant CCC passage or where Trent said that?
Where in church history have the group that "risked it" on opposing the papal magisterium (not the disciplines, the magisterium) ever been vindicated?
It's a losing bet.
He’s not traditional 😟
Uh... he is traditional. Not sure where you get that from.
How not?
In what way is Trent out of line with the deposit of faith?
I was disappointed to see Trent defend the evil document Fiducia Supplicans. As a scandalized parent who is trying to protect my children from this evil, it hurts to see many go along with evil
How many Catholics sin?
What is wrong with blessing the sinner and not the sin?
Why welcome sinning Catholics but condemn outsiders from attempting to correct themselves?
Am I missing something?
@@Skarlet-ju8sr If you read the whole document it says Couples not individuals (individuals could always receive one). It also says it’s an innovation and development in Church teaching. This evil is contradicted by 4K years of Divine Revelation and 2K years of church teaching and Tradition, in 2021 the magisterium released a document condemning what they are now permitting. The Church has never allowed this until now.
@TruthSeeker-333 it also explicitly forbids blessing the sin, and blessing the nature of their UNION. It forbids a formalized blessing in a holy place and it forbids gestures. Emphasis is placed on the blessings of the individuals within the couple, not the nature of the relationship.
You people are conflating intentions when EXPLICIT LIMITATIONS on the blessing were placed.
To be spontaneous instead of planned.
I get where you are coming from, but do you even get where the Pope AND the Magisterium are coming from?
@@Skarlet-ju8srThe document says nothing about blessing individuals, it says COUPLES - several times. Was God and His Church wrong all this time? Why was this forbidden until now? I know evil when I see it, my children do too, and so do all the Bishops in Africa
@@TruthSeeker-333FS changes nothing. If a priest can bless an entire congregation, or a choir, or a brother and sister going on a trip, then certainly a couple in an irregular situation may have one as well. And it was an act of charity to the German bishops, showing them where the line is and clarifying what they can do. Those looking at this and teaching their children to look at this like you do, are not erring on the side of love. It is very uncharitable. Holy zeal would be better expressed in extra prayer, adoration and Mass. Not publicly detracting and dissenting from the one thing that God has given us Catholics that holds us together. You and the others are acting like a rebellious son running around the house slandering the father and telling them to move to the ape house next door. Haven't you noticed the enemies tactics yet? He loves to set up camp right next to God's people, all around, to the left, to the right, north, south, he even gets into our camp, he can look and talk like us, but you'll notice him in the pride. He can't stand to pretend to be humble for too long. You'll notice him in the division, divide and conquer is his best strategy. You'll notice him being among the loudest voices in the crowd, because he wants you listening to him instead of God, in prayer.
If my reply is immodest, please forgive me.