ESSENTIAL TIPS for Building an Aluminium Profile (8020) Sim Racing Cockpit
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- čas přidán 28. 10. 2020
- Building an Aluminium Profile Sim Racing Cockpit (or 8020 Rig as it's sometimes incorrectly called) can seem a little overwhelming. But there's a few easy things you can do to make the entire process far easier and less frustrating.
So in today's video I'll run you through some quick and easy things to help you get it right the first time!
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Im the most practically challenged person on earth and managed to put my Aluminium profile rig together without too much trouble so there is hope for anyone who is looking to build one.
I'll challenge your title any day of the week pal.
If you can build something from ikea, you can manage this…
And as a soon to be home owner, building a racing sim cockpit is Childs play compared to what i will be doing in my actual property
You're a mind reader mate. This is just the video I needed. I'm putting together parts to build a full rig with DIY motion platform and some nifty DIY Arduino items from amstudio as well. Thanks for all you do for the Sim racing community and newcomers alike. Much Appreciated. ✌🏻
I JUST put together my first 8020 frame from simlab last week. I can tell you, that adjustable square is a great recommendation and would've saved me A LOT of time.
@@MrWhoopwhoop10 i was fabricating?
Just ordered mine yesterday!!! Thanks for the tips 👍
Great video mate. Looking forward to that giant wrap around build!
Getting the chassis mounts, seat mounts, seat slider rails, and the seat itself all lined up was the most difficult part for me. I ended up just keeping all the seat related bolts just slightly loose in their respective positions, then actually sat in the seat until it settled, then had another person slowly tighten all the related bolts until it all was secure. First two attempts were a disaster, but this last method did the trick.
Thank you for posting this, starting my ASR3 build right now!!!
As always a great video helping us understand the basics thank you i love watching your videos always informative.
Now he tells :D Already went through the process. I never really understood the exact position for the uprights though. I looked at other rigs to see where it should go. I have a few tips for others:
- when the rig is almost done, put your wheel and seat on it and check if your knees don't hit the wheel (it did for mine)
- after building your rig, if possible, keep it on a spot for a while so you can easily access it to adjust things. While racing you will notice you want to change some things slightly. (Actually after 3 months I am still playing around with seat position and stuff)
- Don't put the plastic finishing caps on it until you are sure you are happy with everything. Getting them off is hard and you will damage it.
- if you want to move a aluminum part be sure to unscrew the bolt a few millimeters and pull it up while moving. Otherwise it will scratch the black paint very easily! (even better is to just unbolt the part complete but I am to lazy for that :P)
- if you move things, be careful to not damage wires (I did this 2 times while moving the pedal plat and a wire got stuck between the plate and the rig)
Thanks for the tips mate 👍🏻
I was lucky enough that my low level OCD made me do the same with my build.
Curious to hear your thoughts on the Rally seat. Look forward to your review 👍
Love your stuff Will. Keep ém coming. My Trackracer 160 is being delivered next week, so you're right on time. Looking forward to your "build video" .?
This video will help when I start building my trak racer. I just am waiting on the tr80 to arrive.
Thank's for your Tips. My Sim Lab P1-X will be shipped on Monday. I wanted to order the Bardland 300-12 via your link. Unfortunately there is no delivery to Switzerland.
Keep it up. Stay healthy.
Picked up a tr160 and recline seat for 46% off (nz closing down sale). What an awesome rig and comfy seat. 3 missing parts but these are on the way. (Great service by the sales person). All in all so happy- coming from an fgt lite.
This video would have come in real handy when I got my rig a month ago.
I can’t wait for your full review. I already ordered one and I’ll really like to know what do you think about it
I plan to buy one of these after I win and then sell an RSeat N1 from a league I'm in. Really excited to get all the TR stuff soon, getting a triple monitor stand as well so I can move from 24" triples to 27s!
Great video and such a help when considering building a profile rig 👍🏼
The tip about have the bolts in the right place before tightening things up is golden, learnt that the hard way. Also make sure to slide enough Tnuts into the framework before blocking off access. Otherwise its disassemble time just to slide a Tnut in. Hardest part of building my TR160 was that I was missing a load of pieces. Check that you have every piece required before starting to build..... hard way over here again. Cheers for a top channel your my go to for simracing.
Hi did you stay with TR160 or moved to something else? I have TR160 as well and I both like and don't like it - its horror to move parts forward\backward. Pedal plate - it's so heavy and tends to block during adjustments, you will scratch profiles easily. The same with wheelbase column or shelf. Of course I know its not specifically TR160 problem, as this is just how t-nuts tend to block in profiles when you want to move something. It's a huge problem in this video it's not mentioned. It's not like Will says to measure distances and tighten. You buy aluminium rig also because it looks like it will be adjustable, but its very hard to move components when they are in place and just loosened to be moved. And especially here where bottom profile is 160mm = 4 t-nuts on each side, move them without pain !
Make sure everything is even and squared up and parallel with each other, that's the message. Was expecting more but some people wouldn't think of this I guess.
Pro Tip = check that your floor is level first..
Haha yep that’s an important one!!
If your floor isn't level, don't get the coasters version but yeah truly pick your working site spot and make sure the frame is dead level when you've started. Keep double checking it too... The feet version can be adjusted in each corner, so after moving the rig can be adjusted again.
The higher the feet, the more potential for a wobble.
Awesome reminders, Will! So many little things can be frustrating when assembling 8020.
Yep. Thinking a few steps ahead makes a big difference. But that’s hard to do when you haven’t built one before. So hopefully this helps.
@@boostedmedia thats where you come in Will. Doing a great job educating people.
@@boostedmedia indeed. Most people who talk about building a rig says it's easy, well after you've done one you've been through a massive learning effort which cognitive dissonance will coat in copous amounts of sugar.
If you're not mechanically inclined, and you don't have many references, at first it is anything but easy.
This will be super helpful for anyone new to this, or someone wanting to refine their skills.
Great tipps! thank you ... very helpful because i start building my own Formula Rig (based on a RCC MK8 seat) and use aluminium profiles for the basic structur and 3d print a "real F1 cockpit" around it ... let´s see :))
Found this helpful, going to be assembling my very first aluminum profile rig in a few days (once delivered). These tips ought to keep the amount of vulgarities the neighbors here a bit lower, lol.
Hey Will this is great content, thanks for sharing. I built my first aluminium profile rig a few weeks ago and struggled a bit, but now things are in a really good place :)
Would you be opened to make a detailed video about mounting the triple monitors so that everything lines up perfectly? Maybe also touch a little bit on how different games are set up differently (angle of the screens mainly). The mount I have for my triple monitors is really sketchy and I'm still struggling a bit to get it right. Just a quick suggestion :)
My TR160 was delivered from Melbourne to Adelaide within 7 days of placing the order. I am bolting it together tomorrow, so thanks for the tips. I thought about waiting for Black Friday to order the Fanatec DD, inverted pedals etc but am concerned it may cause big delays in delivery if everyone else has the same idea. I picked up battery driver today to reduce rsi on the build. I will join the TR Facebook page (thanks for the heads up)
@Kevin Rochow, just be careful using the driver in aluminium, you can easily strip the threads.
Solid tips, I grabbed the angle thing myself watching one of your previous videos. Having a level floor is not be underestimated ;) a bigger level in addition to the angle one was a big plus.
Might be worth touching on use of medium locktite Vs/or good old fashioned grease for long term corrosion prevention.
TR 160 is amazing, and a lot of early customers' feedback have now been implemented, eg labelled bolt packs and step by step instructions. I have built a custom remote programming quad monitor workstation with studio lighting which doubles as a simrig, just amazing.
Personally I preferred 20mm bolts in a lot of places so grabbed some from elsewhere. It just made my build process easier. I am rather inept mechanically but like anything, it's just one bolt and one measure at a time! So got there in the end.
I made the same mistakes as this vid shows. I lined the seat up with the back of the frame to make sure it was square and I ended up being way too far away. I lined the wheel deck up with the top of the upright, and it was way too high. There's great advice here but don't forget about your ergonomics while trying to make sure everything is square.
NLE Ford Edition Elite arrives tomorrow, just getting ready!
The Most perfect timing! Just thinking of buying on of these rigs but debating upon getting the T80 or TR160 but not sure yet
Haha cool. First part of the full review will be up next week. If you do decide you want to buy one there’s a discount available in the video description.
@@boostedmedia Thanks Will, much appreciated. your my go to channel for honest advice so keep up the awesome job! :)
Thanks mate. Will do.
A good tip i used is to add big thick washers when mounting the pedal plates and motor plates to my P1 Simlabs. It stops bad gouging to the slots if you need to make adjustments if other people use your rig and need to adjust them. The bolts that come with the rig only just go over the diameter of the slots so damage is inevitable. The profile is soft aluminium and won't look nice all marred up. I noticed you have done this on your motor mount pieces but the P1 does not cover this
I just found this out the hard way. Larger bolts and washers now installed.
@@vividpsychosis8222 Glad to hear it, hope its all good now
nice to see Trak Racer on the channel. I feel like it's a underused brand
Whoops, I didn't do any of these. Kinda wanna put mine apart and rebuild with these tips in mind.
Good to know thanks
The bolt head hitting is why we use low heads nothing more annoying than bolts stopping you getting a bracket exactly perfect
Biggest thing is use blue loctite to stop screws backing out of threada
Tbh I didn’t use loctite on my simlabs rig and 7 months later (and with seat mover) nothing has come loose at all.
Hey mate. Loved the video. Wanted to ask if you still have a discount code for Pagnian? Gonna pick up a next level wheel stand racer and thought I'd check
Yep it’s linked in the description. Only works for NLR products though.
Amazing 🤞🏽 🥊😂💎
where can i buy this 8020 rig frame in perth and with the measurements that i want . i looking to build my own setup ?
Handy tip for everyone... Using electrical tape between aluminium components helps to stop scratching during builds when adjusting things.
Do you remove it afterwards or do you just leave it on?
Building the TR160 right now !
Regarding the seat rails , did you leaved them as is on this video ? I'm wondering if I should keep it flush with the back of the rig as you did or did you had to move it upfront further on ?
Moved later on. As I said in the video this is just done while building to create a point of reference.
It’s a combination square is the tool he is using. 12 inch Irwin is about 10 bucks on Amazon.
Got a bom of materials, lengths and specs of all prices required?
Just got this rig however it will not line up my steering wheel is always of centre by a centimetre or so
Any ideas ???
i want to see how someone converts between racing/space/flight/keyboard(work). Easily. Fast. Can it be done?
It also helps if u have someone else helping to hold up the profile whilst adjusting (or maybe I’m just a weak ass 🤣)
After building the TR80 rig by Trak Racer, my best tip would be to take the Trak Racer instruction manual with a pinch of salt! It's not the best instruction manual I have ever seen and I had to improvise in some parts. Oh and there are very few instances where you actually have to use the cut washers.
Is this rig compatible with the Next level Racing motion platform V3 or you will have to drill holes into the aluminium profile?
You can use the tracks in the profile to mount anything. Including that motion base
Hi Will, I built the same rig a month ago. Do you have any tips on getting the washer and spring washers on? I left alot off mine as I found the bolts a little short.
Tbh we didn’t run in to any issues with bolts being too short.
Hey Lance, unless you're running motion no real need to use lock washers for the most part but contact us at trak racer if you need a hand or extra screws and we will he happy to help.
@@mattsten2751 thanks for that. No i have it all together and love it. It was just a query in how Will got on. Such a solid unit with my DD2 wheel. My quad monitor mount just arrived here in London so that is going to be my weekend adventure setting up all the monitors
Nobody ever talks about how sharp these Ali profile rigs are I’ve rebuilt mine twice and both times ended up with a bad cut lol maybe I’m just careless 😂
Having so much trouble finding aluminum extensions in the US. It seems like such a convenient option. Has anyone been successful in the US finding these?
Your seat brackets could go on the inside and would have greater adjustment
Hey will, want to start off by saying love the channel. Only been watching for the past month or so, but I’ve watched so many on your videos and have been doing a lot of research of various sim racing products. Currently, I’m using a thrust master tmx on a crappy wheel stand, and I’m planning on upgrading to the fanatec forza bundle that includes csw 2.5, cs v3 pedals, universal hub and shifter for about $1,500. What in your opinion is the best cockpit for under $1,000? Keep in mind I live in the USA so that may affect your answer in terms of what you know is available here. Looking forward to hearing your response! Also if anyone else sees this in the comment section and has a recommendation I’d love to hear your input too
Tbh o haven’t tested many in that price range but the FGT from next level racing was great with my Csw2.5.
@@boostedmedia what was the flex like on the wheel deck? I already know a simple mod to fix any flex regarding the pedals.
Was fine for the CSW. Didn’t hold up with a DD though.
Does anyone have any great cable management solutions? Seems like managing all the cables for a triple monitor set up is way more involved than building the extrusion rig imo
True. Less time you will spend on learning some mental techniques to accept mess rather than make it looking good.
Which 8020 series did you use for your build?
Its a combination square
Hey Will, have you taken a look at AMS2 lately?... They added GT3 cars and updated some other stuff, I picked it up in steam sale for £19 yesterday, I’m quite impressed with it.
The stuff of dreams...
Are they 8020 profiles? Because they look 8040 and 12040.
No they’re 4040, 8040 and 12040
@@boostedmedia What are your thoughts on the 12040? They seem a bit overkill to me.
Hi all😁
6:15 what the heck is a millimeter
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This is literally 150 dollars of profile and a 100 dollar seat back, I don't see where they get off charging these prices
You could honestly just build this sim cockpit yourself at home and would be cheaper then buying thru a supplier
I think you mean an 8020 Rig ?
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Smh. Lol
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Lost all faith after the little ruler thing comment lol
Thank god, you can properly pronounce „Aluminium“ 😍 not Aloominum 😂
LMAO! I was waiting for someone to tell me I'm saying it wrong. Give it a few more mins ;)
At least we know what a combination square is. O and a decal not a deck-coal
@@boostedmedia both North American and non-NA spelling are actually correct!
*alumnilum
@@boostedmediafrom the USA here. I know this is how it is pronounced in a lot of the world but to me that pronunciation will never not sound like “alyouminium” 😅😂
Surprised anyone buys from this company, they are just full of lies and false promises
My personal experience has been the complete opposite. They kept me informed the whole way, the TR guys even called me up and helped me out over the phone when I raise a question on FB. Anyway I rate the guys at TR and the rig as well.
Hi Graeme, if you're a customer please get in touch so i can resolve any outstanding issues. We never lied about anything. Yes, we had delays from suppliers (shipping lines and UPS included) since March 2020 that were out of their control but it's all changed now they have surplus of stock. Matt (Founder)
@@TrakracerAu that's it! always someone else fault. I cancelled after almost 9 weeks of waiting with false delivery dates given, I'm now the proud owner of Sim Lab PX1, took less than 7days from order to my doorstep. This will be the lat of my time wasted speaking to anyone from Track Racer.
@@goldengraeme1918 Sorry to hear that Graeme. Regardless, Simlab is also a good product. Happy racing.
@@TrakracerAu My rig is amazing and everything was actually pretty much on schedule give or take a week or so - and this was at the height of the first part of the pandemic!
I'm in Australia, so this may have helped a fair bit. But anyway you accommodated some order changes in a great way and I'm super happy with my quad screen workstation / rig now. It's such a supreme setup.