The Iron Throne | Game of Thrones Pisstake (Season 8 Episode 6)
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A friend of mine got upset because I made him a peanut butter sandwich, knowing he has a peanut allergy. I explained that I was just subverting his expectations.
Donovan 🤣, oh, you’re sick of hearing that unconventional narrative ➡️ subversive conclusion crap, too?!
@@kimrodriguez1698 YES! They should just say "We're done, lazy writing. gimme the money, enjoy our brilliance"
Donovan , thank you. I’m tired of being made to think I’m some kind of literary dunderhead for not understanding this *rational* explanation for arriving at irrational endings to story arcs. Following the money is, on the other hand, the most rational explanation for subverting our expectations!
Expectations succesfully subverted.
I *expected* season 8 to be *good*
@@sirocco2810 Well said.
You forgot that Yara laughed at Sam mentioning democracy even though that’s literally how Ironborns choose their leaders
The ironborne‘s nobles choose the king. That’s like a republic. Sam advocates for a direct democracy, which to be fair when 90+% of the population is uneducated peasants, direct democracy sounds silly
Edit: replies are right, Sam advocates for an elected monarchy, not a direct democracy. Also the ironborne are not required to be noble to have a say
Mantis Watch the scene again buddy
opugilist It’s the fastest way to another civil war.
@@mantis2048 Actually during the medieval period similar to GoT setting most nobles themselves were illiterate only monks, priests and nobles who deemed it necessary would learn to read and write. Therefore having peasants whom btw supply all the FOOD having some say in the affairs of the psychotic ruling classes isn't that far fetched. The history of democracy according to some historians stretches further back than the Greeks.
@@mantis2048 A Republic is a form of Democracy.
THE LEGITIMIZED SON OF THE KING IS LITERALLY AT THE GREAT COUNSEL AND NOBODY MENTIONS IT?!? I can't get over this.
Does he have a good story? Nah? There we go.
@@belisarius6949 Told well, he has a fantastic story.
Born a peasant in abject poverty, Gendry learned an honest trade and became a apprentice to a renowned smith. Forced to flee, he decided to join the night's watch. When his friends were attacked on the road, he bravely defended them. He survived imprisonment in harrenhal and escaped with the help of arya stark and a faceless man. He was captured by the brotherhood who recruited him upon hearing of his skills. Unfortunately he was betrayed and sold to a red priestess. He then learned the secret of his lineage as the natural son of the king. His kings blood was used in a spell to kill three kings. He was rescued by the onion knight and rowed himself to kings landing. Years later, he joined the forces of Daenerys Targarion. He agreed to adventure north of the wall on a quest to capture evidence of the threat of the white walkers. He saves the company from certain death by running back to deliver a message to Daenerys. He returns to winterfell and fights in the battle to defeat the white walkers. Upon their victory, he is legitimized by the queen and raised to lord of the Stormlands and lord of the greatest castle known to man, Storms End. He continues to serve under Daenerys and fights to remove Cersei Lannister. Hundreds of thousands die in the battle of the mad queens. Upon their deaths, he is summoned for a great council to determine the next ruler of the realm.
The council elects him King Gendry Barathean. Rightful king of all Westeros. Lord protector of the realm. King of the Andals, The First Men, The Rhoynar, and the Free Folk.
"Gendry The Great" there, a fucking better title than "Bran the fucking Broken"
@PetulantRosewulf not realy but he would propably be more accepted by the common folk then that foreign tree boy
Grandmother of Robert Baratheon was a Targaryen so that makes Gendry second cousin once removed of Daenerys and Jon's third cousin - he is totally legit to inherit the Melted Throne.
"The lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.”
*every remaining Stark goes alone to different corners of the globe*
That line was cringe af!
Considering how annoying every Stark became in D&D's fanfic, sending them to separate places to die would be a fricking blessing to westeros.
I will never get tired of hearing people shit on the final season of GOT. Never.
BJP Ever. They did it to themselves also so 🤷🏽♂️
Just beating a dead horse at this point...
I start off joking about it but then it actually makes me feel angry lol.
Francis Campbell well D&D killed the damn horse
Same man, same. And never will..
_"Death is the Death of Death."_ - Tyrion Obvious, Son of Dur.
Derp
Doesn't apply to Jon. He died but yet will still die again.
Experiment Master its called plot armor, none of the main characters got hurt, maybe Arya, but she survived being burned alive so...
Experiment Master and, beric died and they are kind of the same
Experiment Master maybe wormo tried to kill jon after he killed dany, he got scared of the outcome and let him go to the night watch.
I was absolutely shocked into silence when Sansa did what she did to Edmure. It was beyond uncharacteristic of her (the Sansa of ASoIaF was ALWAYS courteous) and not just that, Edmure by all rights should have rebuked her for speaking to him in that way. The idea of turning him into a comic relief character was disgusting and Tobias Menzies is a damn good actor to boot.
I certainly imagine a Lord Paramount more like Tywin or Robert would have just slapped her, called her "a predenter Queen, a Cercei from House Stark" and carried on with their candidacy.
"Are we brothers, Francis?"
"I am the Lord of the Riverlands, I will speak when I want."
Even in the show (before season 5), Sansa very much respected all her family. Edmure is her uncle.... why would she disrespect her family in front of the most powerful people in Westeros????
He should ve told her to go Fk herself the same way Uncle Lannister did when he told cersai i do not recognize your authority queen mother bitch
Brienne closing the book without the ink being dry is a meta representation of D&D ending the series
Finally someone defending my boi Edmure
Yeah, what the f*ck was that Sansa line? I grew to like Sansa, but that was just absurd. Aren't you all there to *discuss* why a certain person should or should not be put forth as the new monarch? That was ridiculous, and so brutal.
@@made-line7627 it was a girl power line.
They keep insulting my boy Edmure, Blackfish, Robb and of course the fucking Freys, but it doesn’t matter they’re all dead people now
@@DrRAZI99 Yeah, who's laughing now? Edmure. Except Edmure's not laughing because he's too good-hearted to laugh at the misfortune of others. Even if they're cunts.
Edmure's speech sounded like he was running for Senior Class President, but they cut him off before he could promise a Pepsi machine in the cafeteria.
Episode 3: “That’s the end of the Dothraki essentially”
Episode 6: *Uwlululullululullulullulullulullulullulullulu*
They reproduced
*The Dothraki kinda forgot that they died so they came back*
@@apostolis07 lmfao
@@muppet7665 Yes, their blood is very big indeed.
God sake your thick as shit! Daenerys literally says the episode before that she has deployed half her forces to the north and half her forces to the south to defend against Cersei in the event of a attack by the Lannister’s! All you idiots who pay no attention to what is actually said in the series and bitch and moan about things that you missed! GTFO! Imbeciles who don’t pay attention to a series that they apparently ‘love and adore’ 😂😂
Bran’s story is so good they ignored it in season 5
Ricands story was so good they only give him ~5 lines
Rickon @@joshdavis5991
If he knows everything he should have saved all the lives of the people in King's landing, but then he probably wouldn't be king so he's really is broken (in the head).
Burn him.
Edmure got done dirty. He's honestly probably the most qualified person to be a king at that meeting.
@@factbeaglesarebest To be fair in comparison to Bran he'd be a far better king.
If we go by books we'd have a currently 9 year old going against a 20-30 something who has experience ruling the Riverlands for years. Even if they aren't a Kingdom, they are large lands and Edmure is one of the few Lords who shows concerne for the smallvolk, aka what should be any Lords job, if they weren't so caught up in who gets the biggest piece of cake in politics.
But since Edmure only had one of his really character showing scenes from the books and they made him an absolute idiot in every single other one, it was pretty clear that they'd make him an idiot here too.
Not that show Bran becoming a King would make more sense, the kid does have zero experience in ruling anything at all. I think there was a Tywin speech in season 4 about why only knowing things doesn't make you a good king.
To conclude: none of these would be good kings in the show, because the bad writing decisions started in season 1 (maybe they should have kept Jeyne Poole) and kept getting worse until they ran out of books and then it was a huge mess.
[Btw I get why they omitted Ned's fever dream and dreams in general for the style they wanted to go for but it kept us from a lot of really important character moments and they did basically nothing to work around it. Changeing something can go well if you know how to do it. But D&D definitly don't.]
@Alexander Kerensky The 7 Kingdoms are
-the North
-the Vale
-the Westerlands
-the Reach
-the Stormlands
-Dorne
So far all what you said is right.
And the last Kingdom is the Iron Islands and the Riverlands. They used to be 1 Kingdom ruled by the Ironborn with their seat on Pyke. The Iron Islands are the 7th Kingdom, the Riverlands got split from them during Aegons conquest between House Tully and House Greyjoy, after the burning of Harrenhall.
So Harren Hoare was the last King of the Rivers and Isles and the guy was totally hated, didn't rule much and build Harrenhall which was horrible for the economy of the whole Kingdom and after Aegon came we became and even worse King, which lead to the rebellion from the Riverland Lords.
House Tully led the rebellion against Harren Hoare, their last King for the Targarynes and after Harrenhall fell they got the Riverlands for that, while the remaining Ironborn went back to the Iron Islands.
Aegon went there to take over and granted them to choose their leader as they did with the Kingsguard, only that they didn't rule for a King, but a Lord. They chose Vickon Greyjoy and after that the Greyjoys have held the title of Lord Reaper of Pyke.
So the Kingdom comes from the King of the Isles and Rivers with the seat on Pyke.
The Riverlands and Iron Islands are technically one Kingdom but the Riverlands itself are not one, because the seat and conquest came from the Iron Islands.
gendry has the best claim
Gendry: I'm I joke to you
tbf, Gendry IS the fastest runner
Jon died less than a year later after choosing to live in the coldest place in the world as the harshest winter ever recorded set in.
Sansa Bolton lost her crown several years later after a disastrous start to her reign. The toll of 3 major wars in less than a decade meant the new northern kingdom lacked sufficient food supplies and man power to last the winter. Thousands froze and starved, her lords rose up and she was forced into exile where she spent the rest of her years working in a pleasure house in Essos.
With no seafaring ability whatsoever, Arya and her novice crew became lost at sea in the vast uncharted ocean. After weeks without food, the ship turned to cannibalism, the lifeless ship is still lost out there somewhere to this day.
After showing up at Storms End claiming to be Gendry Baratheon true born son of Robert Baratheon Lord of the storm lands and liege lord to its inhabitants he was promptly beaten up by Stannis loyalists and thrown in a ditch.
Irritated by the fact only the North was granted independence, the new prince of Dorne and Yara Greyjoy rose up against the crown. The ironborn raids on the North contributed to Sansas downfall and the Dornish attacks on the supply lines from the reich were a disaster for Brans reign.
Disgruntled with the incompetence of the new lord of the reach, Bronn was assassinated in his sleep surrounded by whores from all corners of the earth. His lavish spending and refusal to act against the dornish invasions had disgruntled all in his sphere of influence, plots were quickly hatched to remove him from power.
The now again starving people of Kings landing rose up against their new king. With no clear law enforcement left after the massacre of the Lannister forces and the departing of the unsullied, only a few kings guard were present to hold back the mob. Bran was tossed from a window and fell to his death.
Brienne now having failed to protect two kings and killing another was branded ‘Brienne the useless’. She returned to Tarth where she fell into a deep depression until her eventual suicide a few years later.
After escaping the Kings landing mob through the tunnels under the city. Tyrion Lannister remembered he was Lord of Casterly Rock and Warden of the West. He returned home where he lived out the rest of his days drinking and whoring spending what remained of his family’s fortune.
With no clear heir after Brans death, the succession council failed to agree on who should be king. The country was thrown into the bloodiest civil war the world had ever seen. Hundreds of would be kings came and went, by the time the war was over, more than 150 kingdoms littered the country.
MR5pAMFixER I gave a thought once the show was over to who was brans troops now that Sansa is the ruler of the north and all that. Still haven’t come up with anything but maybe house 3 eyed raven lol
Tbh, that's probably what would actually happen in real life. Something very like it. At the very least the 7 kingdoms have been left in a precarious position. A handful of nobles have decided they want to run things a certain way, what on earth is there to stop one of the rest of the feudal lords overturning that and making themselves King / Queen of the united 7 kingdoms? Did everyone suddenly stop being human beings? Did everyone suddenly get "good" and "noble" and begin acting for the good of the realm? Did the rest of the lords suddenly stop wanting power for self and family just because Tyrion, Bron, Bran and Sam are in charge?
Ngl, I laughed so hard at the idea of bran getting thrown out of a window for a second time
it was better if Daenerys wasn't stabbed to death
@@hentaiprotagonist8312 *Daenerys
"YOU ARE NOT HERE TO SPEAK!"
"Oh yeah? What if I try one more time?"
"Oh, well that's different then, go right ahead with your speech".
Ha ! Take that, Unsullied...
I mean...
Is only logical to let him speak if he insist right after you told him to shut up
And why dont you use the opportunity to choose a new king as well?
the dialoge was all over the place, I guess the showrunners were just like "fuck it, just do whatever" at that point
"You are here to listen or something?"
- Yara remains silent in the face of a girl's death threat.
- Yara accepting the independence of the north knowing that all Yara has done in the show is fight for the Iron Islands to be independent.
- Yara laughing at the idea of democracy proposed by Sam knowing that this is how the salt king is chosen in the Iron Islands.
WTF Yara.
ASOIAF Edmure is what a true ruler should be. He truly cared for his people.
(Cat) Hundreds of smallfolk had been admitted to the castle, and allowed to erect crude shelters against the walls. Their children were everywhere underfoot, and the yard teemed with their cows, sheep, and chickens. “Who are all these folk?”
"My people," Edmure answered. "They were afraid''
He often was in over his head, but gods I love him for that. Plus his relationship to his father gave me some great Faramir vibes.
@@victormeunier9075I hope my boy will be okay in the winds of winter
@@victormeunier9075 Absolutely spectacular idea! Looking back at him, I think you're right and Edmure really will be like Faramir. Lord of his own realm, magnanimous towards all, loved by his people. Edmure may be kinda dumb but he's one of the genuinely nicest characters in the whole series
@@ChrisVillagomez "Tell father I will make him proud." Those feelings...
That Edmure bit was absolutely perfect. Someone had to defend my poor floppy fish from this absolutely disrespectful writing and I‘m glad you answered the call, sir. Well done.
You know what, I'm happy he's not king. They don't deserve Edmure Tully.
@@Glidus
They deserve an evil tree and (ha, ha) that's what they got.
I thought I've seen all the criticism, this one is just icing on the cake. The segment was perfection indeed :). The only character I wish people stop complaining about is Jon Snow. He's retarded and gets a pass no matter what DD wrote up for him.
@@alanpennie8013 the evil tree won't last long: a survelliance state cannot rely on survelliance alone; he needs a repressive aparatus, he has no chance to develop. And the Night's Watch won't work as a Gulag, too. By every rule, in a year or son Jon should change the religion (from the Old Gods to the LOL), take a wife, father some children, and bring justice to the usurper Thee-eyed Raven who pretends to be Bran.
@J .S so was he
How could Dany possibly remember what the iron throne looked like in her vision in s02? She couldn't even remember the iron fleet after talking about it in the same episode.
heh :^)
ThePredaToR kinda forgot about the iron fleet
Ahh, logic.
The throne in the books is HUGE. Basically imagine what the show did and increase its size by 2,000-3,000 percent.
@@factbeaglesarebest they do bring that up with Petyr saying "There's not even a hundred. I've counted"
"Who will be our new king?"
"How about that weird guy who sits quietly by himself only occasionally muttering random things like 'Chaos is a ladder'?"
"Sounds good to us......"
'
The thing is, D&D thought it would be genius to yet again subvert expectations and let bran be king. And SOMEHOW we were supposed to think, that he planned all this.
So he let thousands die on purpose to be king? Ah no matter, not like anything mattered in the end. Might aswell give hot pie the crown and say he planned it all.
@@CODA96 Maybe it;s not so much that he planned it, but he knew what was going to happen. It's not good for him either way. But at least being the 3 eyed Raven he can see the anyone trying to plot against him. Or something.
@@EfftupSmith Its stupid. Bran even said himself ''I cant be Lord of anyone'' - but he can be King over 7 nations? What?
Also Bran could have foreseen literally everything and teach Jon and all the others about Dany going crazy or the Night King getting oneshotted by invisible arya with teleportation skills.
Yet he remained silent and never used his new found power BESIDES telling Littlefinger that chaos is a ladder, which was the only thing Bran did. So essentially Brans entire journey to see the future and past only existed so he could troll Littlefinger and tell Jon hes the rightful heir... which wasnt brought up again, ever.
I mean D&D could have written it in a way that Dany (being focused on the throne since years) finds out that Jon is the rightful heir, and seeing how people love him and despise her ''Bend the knee or die'' behavior would finally push her over the edge and start a war against Jon and the north.
This would be content for another season without the constant garbage they pumped out past Season 5. Its honestly sickening to see how fast GOT vanished away from everyones mind with an ending that bad.
@@CODA96 Yeah, there was a definite change in the writing after they ran out of book stories. In some ways I thought it would have been better if Jon had ended up like Carrot in the Terry Pratchett books. Anyone important KNOWS he's the rightful heir but although he doesn't want the throne, he's always there to remind whoever is on the throne he could take it from them whenever he wanted so it keeps them from stepping too far out of line. But then I also thought it would have been better if the Night King won the Long night. They made a big deal about how they needed EVERYONE to fight to save the whole country. maybe Cersei should have been crowing to herself about her winning the Game of Thrones only to see all her enemies, now with white eyes standing next to the Night King and the entire undead army at the gates, she realises that her selfish stubborn fighting for the throne has cost the ENTIRE population of Westeros. Bran might work in the books, but there would be an actual reason, and it wouldn't just come out of nowhere.
@@EfftupSmith
The Night King should have advanced to Kings Landing. I believe there should be no argument that teleporting oneshot arya killing him and his entire army in a matter of seconds was dumb. Not to mention the guy never got to draw his sword.
But this stupid scene was already planned in S7, with the ''If you kill a WW, you also kill the Zombies/Dwights resurrected by him'' - which reduces the extreme danger of 10.000+ Dwights to the Night King alone. Thats like saying if you kill Dany her dragons instantly drop dead. It just spits on every single scene depicting the danger of the Walkers, because apparently you only need to kill the night King for EVERYONE to drop dead.
To the rest i can only agree. The plot of the WW's was driven against a wall, such was the brain of every character and every plotline such as Dorne, Qyburn, the resurrected Mountain, Jons heritage etc.
If you havent seen it already, i recommend Attack on Titan. It actually got inspired by Game of Thrones alot, but ultimately prevailed in its detail and deep lore, and never failed to deliver. Sadly GOT (the show) did.
3:13 - Since when could the Dothraki understand High Valyrian? My headcanon:
Dothraki 1: "What's she saying? I don't understand High Valyrian."
Dothraki 2: "She just roasted half a million people alive on a whim, you really wanna test her patience? Just clap. Clap dammit!"
Dothraki: *clapping*
OneOnOne1162 😂😂😂 This is an awesome comment.
@@era95v Thanks mate. =p
Except the first half of the address wasn't in High Valyrian, it was in Dothraki.
sounds plausible to me
Since when can literally all the dathraki get killed in a battle, turn into zombies and then spontaneously re-emerge in full force with no explanation?
To be fair, I would much rather have Sir Edmure Tully ruling Westeros than emotionless, omniscient boy who all this time claimed he didn't want to be a lord, is not a Stark anymore, or even human, or didn't want anything from the world, but then, when he is presented with the opportunity to sit on the throne the first thing he says is "why do you think I've came all this way?". WTF? I see a whole sea of red flags waving...
Karr Tim Bran Stark should not have become King! Also why did Grey worm have any say?
@@tellyfan51 'Cause the Unsullied were basically in control of kingslanding (and were apparently back at full strength and not a depleted force after the long night anymore, idk man that 10000 went a LOOOOOooooooOOOOOOng way).
Well you see, he said he couldn't be Lord of anything, he didn't say anything about being king. ArEn'T tHeY sO CleVeR?
@@L0LyourFACE glossing over the fact that Dorne has an entirely fresh army still waiting on the beach for Danys fleet to pick up. The prince could of named himself or whoever king and killed any opposition haha
YES. It is so infuriating that not only does Bran become king, and not only does he say that, but that the other characters act like it was an amusing thing to say and nbd instead of realizing that what Bran is really saying there is, “I knew all along that you would make me king in the end, so I allowed thousands to sacrifice themselves at winterfell to keep me alive, then I allowed a dragon to be killed, then I allowed Dany to slaughter and burn MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, then I allowed my brother Jon to be exiled...all so I could be chosen to be your king right here. Ha ha, cool, right? I could have said or done something to stop it, I mean, I could have warged into a raven and pecked out Dany’s eyes and killed her, even, and saved all those innocent people including children, but hey, it all led to me being KING so suck it, innocent people! Me getting the throne makes all of your deaths worth it!”
They ought to have all ripped him to pieces when he said that, not celebrated him! He’s worse than Dany! She at least was upset and angry; Bran just legit stepped aside and let her do what she did. Every person there lost people they loved and/or cared about, some of them lost those people because they died saving Bran, and he literally just said, “hey, your brother had to die so I could get the throne, so...sucks to be him!”
I still can’t get over that. All that “I’m barely even human, I’m not Bran, I can’t rule because I have to be the world’s memory, it is so super important for me to do that that I can’t even weigh in on your stuff or care about it at all,” was basically a big huge LIE because he knew he’d rule at the end. EFF YOU BRAN. YOU PSYCHOPATHIC SCUMBAG. You deserve to be killed by all of those people who just stupidly elected you, a kid with zero experience or knowledge, who says he doesn’t care about anything or anyone and isn’t really even human anymore, a guy who has proven he’s happy to let millions die a horrifying and terrible death if it means he gets to be In charge, as their king.
Just, ffs. The worst ending ever.
"Robin Arryn represents the power of Calcium" I died! 🤣🤣🤣
I had to pause the video after that and catch my breath. God tier joke
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this hahahah
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He totally found Tormund’s giant friend
The episode summary on the HBO website describes that situation as nursing "well past a reasonable age" and we still laugh about it to this day
"Anyone else thought Bran was gonna stand up too" I literally laughed by myself :D
Bran: *stands up*
Everyone else: "dude what?"
Bran: "what? Oh the wheelchair nah man I'm just fucking lazy"
to say S08 was disappointing was kind of an understatement. Sure there were fuck-ups from S04-S07 but most I didn't mind; except for Tyrion's brain going to soup and 'the best swordsman that ever lived' killed by a bunch of petty criminals with kitchen knives. But in S08 I was like.... wtf is this shit. It totally diverted from the wiki that D&D earlier followed. I expected an epic mind game between Bran and the night-king before they lost the battle and had to retreat further south (as in the wiki). But nooo, we got 3 hours of dark screen to look at which they dared to call 'the most epic battle in cinematic history' then some girl that got some 'Valah murgulis' skills got to kill the night king with the same technique she earlier used on Breinne of Tarth, coz FeMiNiSt MaRy SuE StUnNiNg AnD bRaVe 🤡 and it went only downhill from there. Like D&D totally forgot their set up that Jon was a Targaryan too.... to me it would make more sense if eventually Jon and Dani would got the throne and Targaryan rule would be restored with the both of them ruling benevolently and ending the war and create another period of peace and prosperity to the realm. Instead 'vahlar muglusis' girl forgot she could change faces, Bran went offline completely, and the Lanisters didn't know where the previous 6 seasons had gone, Tyrion cries for his sister while uuhm yeah that same sister tried to kill him by any means necessary, which is why he fled in the first place, the Dothraki got to respawn like it was a multiplayer game after they were slaughtered to the last man and argh.... D&D messed up SO big!
"Mein Fuhrer! I can walk!"
"Well, since Bran can't stand up for the new king anyway, let's make him the regent to avoid any ableism".
@@herrnenne The Throne is destroyed, lets crown the one who already sits, so we dont have to make a new one
I felt embarrassed when they shouted “queen in the north” like they really thought they ate that and it had 0% emotional impact.
Yeah the North presumably would not tolerate Jon Snow being in prisoned and banished.... Not even if it means his sister running the north and his brother running the iron thr
The best quote to sum up the end "I guess it was my fault for having paid attention"..I mean there are no better words
"I'm guessing that's my fault for having paid attention"
Why yes, yes it is.
😂😂😂 my thoughts exactly
I hope he learned his lesson.
Edmure Tully, i hated what they did to him in the show from his first scene to his last. A joke. In the books it clearly states he missed with the bow because he was drunk, because he was grieving the loss of his fucking father!
Yeah, and Brynden kindly offered to help him take his shot, not just shoving aside like in the show.
Same! I hated how everyone in this show treated Edmure like he's some sort of a buffoon from the start! Fking Robb drags his family to a war and Edmure seems to be a good commander defeating Lannister contingents. How did Robb thank him? By tearing into him for messing up a grand plan Robb had in HIS MIND! Who's fault is that for not sharing the battle plans WITH YOUR COMMANDERS! Fk you, Robb!
And even after that, he selflessly agreed to marry a Frey to make up for the golden boy Robb's fk up! Gets imprisoned for years! Blackfish, his own family doesn't give two shits about him. Blackfish was willing to sacrifice his own kin to save his childhood home! Fk you, Blackfish!
And fking Sansa has the gall to disrespect that guy. When all Sansa was doing was...basically nothing. She gets pushed around by literally everyone in the show. gets butt fd by a psycho and suddenly she's become the most badass, super smart, girl-boss of the entire North! Fk you, Sansa!
Seriously? Christ they did his character dirty @chyawanprash
Tyrion's not-democracy really is worse in every way. The great advantage of a monarchy is the clear line of succession, with no doubt about who is in charge. The weakness is obviously that the smallfolk get shat on.
In this system, there is no longer a set in stone succession and lots of opportunity for wars, politics and messy stuff like that. While the smallfolk probably get shat on even more in the resulting instability.
Also, they *did* give Bronn all the food, so next winter he can bribe everyone
Unless the new heir is an idiot or sadistic, or worse a sadistic idiot. There are real world examples of elected monarchies that were more or less functioning. The system is far from perfect, but so are most systems. And it is a good step away from absolute monarchy towards a constutional monarchy/democracy.
@@mathy1799 i know this comment is 5 months old and nobody cares but, the system proposed will really have no impact. Wars would start, powers would shift, rulers would change and things would be back to the way they were. So no it was most definitely not a good step
@@sarwatarannya8786 Yeah, ppl. misunderstand Westeros' monarchy. It's not an absolute monarchy, it's a feudal monarchy. The monarch essentially has to rely on the loyalty (bought or bred) of his nobles to exercise justice, taxes, public works projects, etc. Most monarchies work this way, even the "absolute" ones.
Given that by season 8 even the best of the Westerosi nobility are complete dipshits (looking at you, gaslighting xenophobic children whose irrational hatred is somehow proven after the fact), this means running a government in Westeros is and always has been a pain in the ass & will continue to be so under the new system.
I have no idea what Martin has in mind for all this. Like, in the event that Jon & Dany are out of the picture politically (hopefully in circumstances OTHER than her murder at his hands), Bran has decent chances as a compromise candidate at an honest Great Council a la Jaehaerys the old (not the impromptu nonsense in the show):
Edmure, lord of the Riverlands is his uncle.
Robin Arryn, lord of the Vale, is his 1st cousin.
The memory of Theon Greyjoy may have some sway over Asha, who may feel voting Brandon will help rehabilitate the Iron Islands to the rest of Westeros, given how badly the Greyjoys treated the Starks historically.
Even then, I'd still prefer an outcome with Dany as Queen. Just the idea that Martin thinks a half-god crippled boy with no claim would make a better king in his fantasy world than an adult woman of the royal house (who professes to do good & seems a reasonable enough person until the script decides she can't be anymore) leaves me cold. It's like he wants to re-write the Dance only make it MORE misogynistic
(intentionally or no).
@@jakobcrotty8907 Where do you learn this stuff, just curious?
"Robin Arryn: Lord of Calcium"🥰🥰🥰🥰
Made my day
Haha just watched that bit. Glorious!
XD
Got Milk?
it made preston happy
@@jaydenmartin2838 eh?
I love how we had 8 seasons of scheming for the Iron Throne for the whole thing to be wrapped up in 15 minutes with all the great lords just agreeing with Tyrion's first idea. Why didn't they just do this in s1 and save us all the trouble
"This was never about the Night King, it's the Game of Thrones!"
"Hey can I be king?" - "Okay."
@@jens6398 no no no! It's:
Can he be king, he doesn't want it!
Okay.
Do you accept?
Yeah, why do you think I came all this way?
So you want it?
No, and because you also don't want to be the hand you'll be the hand.
Most stories wrap up pretty quickly. That’s kind of the point. Most people who try to make a very long ending fail at it by making it way too long.
@@Aplesedjr they failed season 8 by making the ending completely stupid and convoluted
The Programmer of video games it wasn’t convoluted. I could follow along just fine. Sure, some story lines weren’t finished, but they finished the actually important ones instead of the few dozen ones that had no actual bearing on the story. It certainly wasn’t the best season, but it wasn’t as bad as the people who are basically exploding in rage over it think it is.
There's a lot of wonderful takes in this but Edmure's speech set to "This is the Moment" (which is a relatively obscure musical theater JAM, so props to you!) takes the cake. I was near tears, not just with laughter, but also because of your heartfelt defense of MY BOI EDMURE FUCKIN' TULLY who is so shockingly shafted in this show, despite being one of the sweetest, most well-intentioned and honorable characters in the books, bless his little fishy heart.
This is actually the first time I heard that song and it was wonderful. It's so underwritten it's amazing.
First watch here, I'm currently crying...
And there's an ad break right in the middle of it.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched this and the other pisstakes. Your humour and criticism mix so well it has endless rewatch ability
ty, mad to think that i made each one of these in a week. i was so angry, and so motivated.
same tbh i love hearing the line "let's tear this thing to shreds!"
I watched it like 29 times
I've watched Glidus' "Every GoT Episode Ranked" vid more times than I care to admit. It's gold.
@Sure0Foot bruh when i take a long bath i keep that on. I complete 1/3rd of the vid each bath, so in 3 weeks i will have complerdd the vid. Its great fun to hear
“Drogon gets confused by the plot and decides to flys to a different show” hahahahahaha
That was the BEST!!!
He also auditioned for a small role in the Jurassic World sequels, but he didn't look genetically engineered enough.
Professor Xavier 😂🤣
@Hugo Pichon-Martin Yeah, that was pretty freaking weird. What were they thinking? :D
😂😂😂😂😂
@Hugo Pichon-Martin 🤣
Edmure Tully did nothing wrong!
Here's what I don't get. If Sansa was going to be Queen in an independent North, why the hell did she get a vote in the remaining kingdoms?
Edmure Tully is pure, he must be protected.
He made some mistakes but so what - not everyone is a master at Crusader Kings 2, he's a fun guy anyway. Kids can be so mean.
Well, except attack those Lannisters. But yeah, a good lad in heart.
@Cerebral Cortex CEH Ehhhhh, I don't see that being the intent. Arya disrespected and threatened Yara - where's the girl power with that? I think the intention was to present our young characters as having been molded and hardened by their experiences, but the issue resides in the fact that both Yara and Edmure were not exactly having the best of times either - I would've loved to see Edmure having grown from his incarceration to be more like Brynden. Then perhaps his off-screen death would mean something.
Barristen does write his own entry in the books, Jaime even reflects on how funny it is that Barristan updated his own page before fleeing King's Landing.
Let's be real, who would dare step into the room to stop fucking Barristan from writing?
The other knights probably brought him the ink and quill and pulled the chair for him.
Barristan writes most of it. The beginning of his entry would have been written by the previous LC tho. Gerold Hightower?
@@Serryy Probably.
Drogon, like the nice dragon he is, burnt down the city so they could rebuild it with ramps and burnt the throne to make space for Bran's wheelchair.
Isn't he a good dragon.
Drogon is probably smarter than 50% of named characters by the end
Once he comes back, he'll be known as Drogon the inclusive
he's just a good boy
" Drogon got confused of the plot n flew away" no truer words
Edmure should have been king, he's actually perfect for the job. He's caring, intelligent, calm and rational. Bran is a tree.
why do you have to do magnificent trees dirty like that
ngl, i laughed hard, here's a like
Nah.
The problem is, that there's so much more unexplored with whatever Brann is. Could be a tree, could be much, much worse. For all we know, there could be something diabolical under that bored face of his. It's a story involving magic, undead kings, dragons and whatnot. Let's make a cripple that survived a journey north of the wall, while shit hit the fan, the King. What could possibly go wrong?
Edmure isn’t a very capable military commander however he is shrewd and unlike Robb’s dumbass lust for that Westerling girl that got him killed he knew better than to piss of the Frey’s and that stopped him from getting executed and he is 10x better than handicapped bran
You can wake me up in the middle of the night 7 years from now and i will still happily tell you in minute detail how shitty this episode and the ending was.
It’s been 3.5 years, now the halfway point.
@@joshdavis5991 Indeed, now that you have reminded me of this disaster, i'm still as pissed as 3.5 years ago. Have i told you how shitty that episode and the ending was, btw ? Unvelievably shitty. Anyway, let's see in another 3.5 years if anything has changed my mind by then. I doubt it.
Thanks for defending Edmure. I think is bananas how Sansa treated her own uncle in that scene.
her*
@@gru6817 true
"Death is the Death of Death"
my absolute favorite GoT quote
kinda true if you think about it, they killed off so many characters by the end that all the death that happened in the last two episodes didn't matter and was boring af lmao
@BONESAW IS READY unless your Jon Snow.
Grey Worm didn't teleport. When Jon sees him at the top of the stairs, that was 2 weeks later. D&D kinda forgot to add the time card informing us.
@@muppet7665 No, an hour or two, tops. Arya has time to dust off the soot, but not treat her injuries
he did teleport. there was lots of teleporting in the final season.
All the unsullied are identical clones. Whichever one takes off his helmet is today's "Greyworm".
Brienne should've given Oathbreaker to a weaponsmith to remake the sword together with Widow's Wail into Ice again to give it back to the Starks. Since she kept her oath and now she should give it back
She commited treason and killed the rightful king stannis. She shouldve been exucuted by Jon when she arrived at Winterfell.
@@winterman8248 wat
@@winterman8248 no doubt. If I was running the show, it would have been the first thing I would have done in Season 7. It had become a bad show with no consequences so nope cannot touch the "powerul whemen". Not to mention she betrayed her oath to protect Sansa by leaving her post to satisfy her vengeance.
Nickan Zohrevand - fusioning the swords to fullfill the Azar Ahai prophecy. It would have been the third time like the book says.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 here here good fellow I agree. She took the real King's life under the false userper Renley's name. Broke oath to Sansa, betrayed the Robb Stark war on the Lanisters by accepting to take Jamie to freedom under orders of Catelyn who is not a general or lord, but the King's mother previously lady of winterfell. Therefore Catelyn had no authority, making Brian's actings a crime.
Tbh at this point it would have been better if they lost the big war and everyone died.
Seriously, it would have been better if Jesus returned during the big dumb meeting and exploded everyone with his eye lasers and then took the crown for himself with a couple bad b*tches by his side.
Ned: Death is the Love of Duty
Margery: Love is the Death of Love
Arya: Duty is the Love of Death
Night King: Death is the Death of Death
The love of duty is death.
omg this comments are sooo underrated
ok but Arya's duty was not to die at sea that was bs and she should have stayed with Gendry I'm still pissed
Hodor: Hodor is the hodor of hodor
Damn this is actually deep
Thanks for that Edmure bit. Needed to be said.
As well as the Lord of Calcium/Robin Arryn jab, and everything else
@@xtzyshuadog i dont think he has been so screwed all this years as Edmure. And because of Rob s mistake. Sansa was so damn annoying this season
@@Zalazalamero Sansa had access to the script, that's why she's right all the time but that does make her annoying
@@sirocco2810 i used to love her character but this season she has been annoying as hell.
How did they even know Dany was dead and not just flown off? That’s my biggest question since this episode.
Because Jon's an "honorable" moron and told them at the earliest possible opportunity.
@@chasm671 I like to imagine Jon walking out of the throne room and immediately addressing one of the guards with: "Excuse me, I'd like to report a crime."
@@krissuyx Guard: "Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll."
Jon: "What?"
Guard: "What?"
yeah that literally happened earlier in her story lol
Why did anyone in westeros care is the real question. It's just bad writing, they wouldn't have, especially after learning he's the rightful heir and given the fact she just went scorched earth on them.
I’ll never get over how stupid it is that John took the black again or the fact that there’s still a nightswatch. The Night King died and half the wall was blasted open. If anyone wanted to walk through then they could and not to mention the vast majority of the wildlings are south of the wall.
I feel sorry for the actors having to betray their characters, the story and GOD.
If I were on the show there would have been arguments every day. I would literally have gone up to D&D and say this is fucking stupid. What are they going to do, recast Jon Snow?
As an actor, I don’t think you want reputation as someone who openly defies the directors. It’s just a warning sign that you’re difficult to work with, so people would rather pick someone else. Most of the cast is disappointed though, Kit literally said the ending was disappointing.
Yeah that's also what I thought about why the actors and actresses seem "happy" about it
The actors and actresses practically have a red dot sight on their forehead. They probably just don't want to piss off the wrong people
god is a fairy tale. grow up.
@@scottk1525
Lol, really I was being sarcastic.
But anyway, la tee da, you sound all grown up and sofiticated. Not.
More like a stuck up little bitch. Whatever, go ahead with discriminating and discrediting people for their spiritual beliefs. Onward with the attack keyboard warrior.
3:43 D&D love Arya, or more accurately, Maisie. They don't need a reason to have her in the scene, they need a reason to *not* have her there.
15:56 Bran's story is so good that he was absent from an entire season.
Correction they love Maisse they dont care about Arya ... at this point I dont think they even really understand the difference between the 2
they have a crush on a teenage girl. Soo creepy
FACT
@@delusionalunicorn5324 Maisie's 22 - they haven't had a crush on a teenager since Season 6! HBO's legal team handily produced charts to say that this whole showrunners totally in love with Maisie/Arya thing definitely isn't creepy right before episode 2.
@@sihollett she looks like a little kid, though. I have seen 13 year olds with more mature looks than her.
"Who has a better story... than Bran, the Broken?"
*yakety sax starts playing* shows list of 38 characters
Ramsay “If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention.
D&D “Hold my beer”
Its very consistent, because DnD does not pay attention nor respect. Of course it has an asspull happy ending
D&D wrote season 8 like that just to piss Ramsay off, post mortem. Now it all makes sense.
Sam didn't even do democracy first. The nights watch elected Jon and the iron islands have the kings moot.
The nights watch is small, that’s like a local democracy. The ironborne have a kind of republic where the nobles choose a king. Sam advocates for a direct democracy, which to be fair when 90+% of the population is uneducated peasants, direct democracy sounds silly
@@mantis2048 A Republic is a form of Democracy - why do so many people like to believe it's some kind of dichotomy when it's more like an umbrella under which a representative republic remains snug and dry from the rains of *MONARCHICAL TYRANNY!*
Seriously, though - that's democracy. They could have a representative democracy with the lords demarcated by present spheres of influence presiding over public bodies of peasants organized according to their occupations (literally the one thing in the world the peasants will be knowledgeable about) - thus giving the peasants a power block while putting a stop-gap in place when it comes to uppity peasants trying to stick their noses in shit they have no clue how manage.
Seriously, you're not going to let the dairy farmers balance the court budget. All they care about is their security and safety and livelihood - if you tell them to focus on the livelihood part, and let their liege lords handle the security and safety part - you have a symbiotic system - basically Feudalism - but with more town hall meetings. The symbiotic nature of Feudalism is affixed with the ability for peasants in their occupational bodies to elect executive officers and other officials which would speak on their behalf with the liege lords, and those officers would have an avenue in place to then reach out to the lord of their direct liege lords if they feel that those liege lords aren't holding up their end of the bargain.
While the peasant bodies function amongst themselves in a more direct and ad-hoc "Night's Watch" capacity, the lords in the rungs upwards behave more like a representative monarchy or republic - these different organs fulfilling different bodily functions in different capacities, but working to uphold one whole entity.
This is more of a thought experiment - one way this COULD go - than anything else, but I think your take on it is fairly boring and unproductive, to say the least.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 americans say republic are not democracies to justify their broken electoral system lmao
@@fuzzydunlop7928 I think you seriously overestimate the extent to which simply describing a system in abstract means it is practical to implement. The "occupation" of the vast majority of peasants will simply be a farmer of staple crops, and they would have neither the ability nor the inclination to "organise". Not only are they all illiterate, but most of them would never have left the village in which they were born. You're right that they'd only care about their security and livelihood - but they wouldn't see how spending some of their precious time meeting _somewhere_ (not in a "town hall" since most of them will never even visit a town) to "organise" with people they have no real reason to meet would help with any of that. There's a reason why only specialised craftsmen and merchants really organised in the middle ages and it was only in the 19th century with the industrial revolution that organising extended to much of the population.
@@evoluxman9935 Or it could be the long history of explicitly non-democratic republics, such as the Italian city-state republics, or further back the largely non-democratic Roman Republic, which the American Founding Fathers knew about and considered carefully while designing the American Constitution.
"A targaryen, alone in the world, is a terrible thing"
_Jon enters room_
"hey!"
@Isabeau de Foix Montmeyran Neither is Dany. Egg married a Blackwood, not another Targ.
@@neriumsuitedher no that's her brother
@Isabeau de Foix Montmeyran he's not bastard though a his parents where married
@Isabeau de Foix Montmeyran oh shut the fuck up and fuck off you pompous bitch.
i still can not get over the fact that gendry was literally next in line LITERALLY NEXT IN LINE but they chose some disabled clown that literally not too earlier said "i dont want to be lord"
LMAO disabled clown
The remaining stark children just deciding between them who's going to head the family goes against the essence of the system.
It just doesn't make sense, they got more anachronistic each season.
"BEST SEASON EVUUH!"-Emelia Clarke
well they are not allowed to bad mouth the show, but you can see the pain in her eyes when she said it
@@tommerker8063 and you can see that Grey Worm approves.
@@tommerker8063 She was being sarcastic… That’s why the others laughed and she was making that face in the camera.
For real, the disrespect towards edmure was such a shitty moment. I liked the guy. His speech was beautiful before being interrupted.
I loved how Danny brought her tailor with her that made her a black dress 20min after destroying the city "because I'm the evil cowboy (girl) now" lol
Maybe she hired the night kings tailor who's been unemployed since his death.
And hair stylist too! She doesn't even have Missandei anymore
And, let us NOT forget those red leather gloves...Lemme just go order me some for..'Winter is Coming'....😤😤😤😤😤
But how would you know she's evil now if she's not wearing an SS uniform?
14:13
Good gravy, that was cathartic. My detest for Sansa is high and I don't see enough people sharing this passion.
The three remaining Starks are unempathic psychopaths.
@@sergiocortes125 Which would be problem enough (since they were basically fine in the earlier seasons), but they get rewarded for it! Their gaslighting xenophobia is proven correct after the fact & as a result they all get what they apparently wanted (although Bran claims not to want anything) while every other character who was hitherto sympathetic to any extent gets shafted to greater or lesser degrees.
Dany had it the worst, Jon slightly less so (I mean, he gets to live, that's about it), and...
Actually, that's about it. Tyrion had been riding on fumes from earlier seasons for a while, since his bad advice (courtesy of D&D, who think what Tyrion says is smart) failed to help any side he happened to be on. Jaime is... debatable IMO. Stringing Brienne along (if not up to the point of coitus) is something I COULD maybe see him doing, depending on the circumstances.
@@sergiocortes125 Exactly. And I wouldn't be surprised if Bran has warged into Rickon to stop him from zigzagging, just to eliminate a human Stark contestant.
What are you doing here?
@@jakobcrotty8907 I mean Jon does get to be with the free folk again who cared about, and gandry was legitimized, so yeah their endings mostly turned out fine.
My poor Gendry. Who lived in/worked in Kings Landing his whole life, also a legitimate claim to the throne. Smithed all the weapons and dragon glass. Went beyond the wall and saved Jon and all the other idiots for going beyond the wall. My poor Gendry 😭
He’s the Lord of Storm’s End with a smaller target on his back than if he became King so don’t feel bad for him
for me jon asking arya "what are you doing here" brook the fourth or fifth wall or something because everyone thought the same thing.People are appearing randomly everywhere and even Jon Snow is questioning the logic of his world at this point.
Arya shouldn't even be alive at that point, but her plot armor was stronger than the wall
Jon is starting to realise that he wasn't actually brought back from the dead, and all of this is just a dying dream in his final moments after getting stabbed by the Watch.
Sansa: "The North will have our independence"
Everyone else: "will there be a hard border in the trident or a soft one?"
TheAdarryl m
Momm
Bran must build the WALL !!!!! Keep Sansa out of Westeros..
Season 9 of GoT is just a long series of dull negotiations between Sansa and the Small Council, while she uses the threat of a "no deal Nexit" to stop the northern lords from overthrowing her and demanding Jon back.
22:20. Personally I think Bran was the one who torched the iron throne, possibly was the one who burned King’s Landing, and was even the one staring at Jon and Dany when they were kissing after their joyride.
That would be nice if there was literally any information whatsoever pointing to it.
My headcanon is that whenever there's a sex scene (consensual or otherwise) Bran's just in the corner jerkin' off lmao
Actually it was a good question, what was Arya doing in the meeting, Sansa was there to represent the starks, Bran was there as the 3 eyed raven and Arya was just there. Why did no one argued when she threatened Yara
Because nobody can question Deus Ex Arya, the Usurper of Character Arcs and Wearer of Punchable Faces. I'm still honestly surprised they didn't choose her as Queen of the Six Kingdoms. As insufferable as she was, she did at least have a better story than Bran the Broken (as did everyone else).
It’s the 3 eyes crow.... The show changed stupid things (like turning the Others into White Walkers, 3 eyed crow into 3 eyes raven... Asha into Yara)... the show was absolute garbage.
It’s be just simply bad if it wasn’t for the fact that the freaking books are PHENOMENAL!!!! Real literature.
Also Robb did have a crown. An iron crown. Fuck the show; das ist scheisse!
@@factbeaglesarebest I don't see how turning asha to yara makes the show trash, they did it so she wouldn't get confused with osha
@@factbeaglesarebest all the things you listed weren’t even ba changes the name three eyed crow to Raven and others into with walkers is non Consequential
I love the feminism in that scene too, because female empowerment comes from women threatening eachother in formal meetings is a top tier girlboss move!
"This guy who rides for Gondor" and "This Oberyn cosplayer" Bloody brilliant XD
May as well put Geoff in charge.
Hey! Hell yes Aragorn for king. 😆
@@cjd5235 but what about his tax policy?
I Faramir am here to show my quality.
This guy, who I just decided is Howland Reed.
"I understand the impracticality of drawing a longsword while macking. Truly, I do. More than most" might be the funniest thing I've heard this month
I am still startled how all these lords accepted a sovereign north reigned by a Stark, while the rest of the kingdom is ALSO REIGNED BY A STARK.
Did they just tell them: "Oh, hey, look, Bran's totally not a Stark any more, he's the Three-Eyed Raven, this god-like entity. Believe me, bro!"
I’ve watched this at least 5 times over. And 1 year later, Edmure’s “Moment” is still absolutely hilarious.
nice
That awkward moment when watching videos trashing the last season of GOT than actually watching the last season.
In the wise words of Olenna Tyrell, “it’s the only joy I get in all this misery.”
Dany was right, Tyrion was always trying 2 protect his family! She should've attacked the Red Keep in S7, period. All her Dragons would be alive and the Wall would be intact!
Angel Pabon Jr then a fuckton of night walkers would conquer the world because arya killls the NK
@@Evili555 how would they ever get past the wall without Daenerys going north and giving them a dragon.
@@abboud6393 You know, that never made any sense to me. How the fuck was the Night King ever going to get past the wall without Daenerys' dragon? If she never went north would he have had a backup plan? Really stupid writing.
I always liked the theory that since the white walkers rose again that it was going to be the coldest winter since the long night. So cold that it would be enough to freeze the body of water next to the wall. Frozen enough for the White walkers and the Wights to be able to cross and pass the wall. That would have been cool..instead we got what we got...
Abboud well he could shoot another dragon because he got some aimbot hacks and then use his scummy revive hacks
She wanted to, even Yara, the Lady of Highgarden and the girls from Dorne were all behind her at this point.Plus she had all of her dragons, Unsullied and Dothraki armies intact. She shouldn't have listened to Tyrion. He knew his brother and sister would probably die when Daenerys took the Iron Throne, so he shouldn't have been sabotaging her plans from the beginning. As for Jon, fuck the North. According to Sansa, they didn't need her armies and dragons, cause they had badass superkiller girl Arya with plot armor so thick she could've defeated all of the attacking white walkers and the night King all by herself. She should've burned Tyrion when he got to Mereen. Once a Lannister, always a Lannister.
"Tyrion warns him that they're developing a spinoff series, wich pushes Jon to eventually kill the executive producer" wise choice
"Dave who wasn't invited but followed us and we were too polite to tell him to leave" oh my god I cracked up. I'm wheezing. Send halp
"Usually when you leave a place you end up in a different place." lmao
Maybe she forgot her wallet
And resorted to dig through the rubble for it with her nose.
This will probably get lost in the comments but; I dipped on this show way back in season 3 when they made Robb Stark LAUGH at his uncle Edmure's failure to light his father's funeral pyre. Robb would have never, never disrespected his mother that way; he was as honourable as his father, and he LOVED his family. They massacred my boy (right before they massacred my boy)
That being said, I love watching these recaps and I'm quite glad people are pointing out the absolute garbage shit writing and lazy plot holes.
You know what, you're right. Edmure might be the show's earliest complete butchering of a character. Book Edmure is a generous, kind soul who truly cares for his people in a way most lords never do. He's a sentimental guy who embodies the principles of his house. The dude accepts a life-long burden because his nephew made a mistake. Honestly Edmure is one of the books' few characters you could say has a good, honest, selfless heart. He's great.
Show Edmure is a proud, bumbling buffoon who they want me laugh at in spite of the immense suffering he's gone through. Brynden and Robb laughing at him is an insult to all three of their characters. One of my favourite moments in Storm (high fucking bar there) is when Brynden kindly offers to perform Edmure's duty of shooting Hoster's pyre. It's just a beautiful realisation of what this family is all about. Absolutely ruined that moment in the show. I love the early seasons but they're not perfect. Making Edmure prideful and Brynden a badass old man who doesn't give a shit was a misstep.
So true. I had read the books before watching the series and was surprised by Edmure's portrayal in the show.
character assasination before actual assassination
I'm late, but what of how the Blackfish just RUDELY pushed HIS OWN LORD OUT OF THE WAY TO LIGHT THE PYRE INSTEAD? In the books, he was very polite about it. That was really horrible.
Ugh, this video reminded me of the sheer cringe that gripped me when Tyrion proclaimed Bran as “the Broken.”
Who in the ever-loving FUCK would ever want to call their goddamned monarch, the protector of your entire kingdom, “the Broken” as anything OTHER than a posthumous title given by historians to distinguish different monarchs with the same name or as an insult spoken out of earshot and in privacy?
Bran the Rebuilder was RIGHT THERE, DnD what are you dOING
I remember hearing it spoken like something we had all been hearing for years. I was like, 'say what'? Bran the what now?
Seriously, you have to go back to Tytos Lannister (Tyrion's own grandfather!) to see vassals openly mocking their lord so brazenly. And we know how Tywin handled those shits.
I still can't get over Cercei having ever been queen of westeros. She had no claim to the throne except as regent via her children and her children were gone. It was more likely for a Cleon-the-Butcher type character to usurp her and establish a military junta by virtue of strength. Women aren't respected in Westeros. King's Landing is a city of schemers and the way they kowtowed to her and ceased to be politically relevant was embarassing.
It would have made more sense if she hid the death of Tommen (even by executing rumor-spreaders) and declared he was ill, then ruled as queen regent indefinitely in his name. She'd have legitimacy and as Varys once said "power resides where people believe it resides."
"I could not think of a more apt way to describe the 8th season of GOT then someone repeating a joke you've heard before & not giving you the punch line"
This season leaves you feeling hollow!
That Edmure rant gives me life. Damn, I hate Sansa.
Imagine what a terrible smug just annoying terrible ungrateful "Queen"she must be, all about just feeling absolutely nothing but disappointment with that terrible pointless dull dead ending compared to the just awesomeness of when they organically declared John snow to be their new King out of actual earned respect and accomplishment.
@@danielhicks4826 Sansa suffered the same fate that arya did. I really liked Arya in the first season. Tomboyish, loyal and her adventure was fun to watch. Sansa was a brat at first, but ultimately she gained my respect for changing into a stronger character. Yet, both just turn into edgy, boring, arrogant people in the last few seasons. Yes, she was abused by Ramsay. So? She acts like nobody else ever suffered, and still has the audacity to command him to sit. God, the whole season was such a trainwreck.
@Avani Marks Thats just one of many example of the writers trying to make the characters sound meaningful, not realising what neurotic drivel they're putting out.
@array s Treacherous to Jon as well.
I wish I could like your comment a thousand times over
“Robin Arryn who represents the power of Calcium.”
"John doesn't want to kill his girlfriend, because hes a beta"
D&D made every male character a bata because theyre 2 feminist men or feminist focus groups were up their backsides from day 1.
I think its both tbh. Not joking but I think D&D were getting regular blo jobs from everyone left at the final meeting off set.
Sam, Sansa, Defdinately Tyrion. Jamie and Cercie were taking in the A$$ thats why they lived to the end.
@fabRic_jAck ignore women
Sell children (Arya and Bran)
@@winterman8248 You sound like you should see a therapist.
@@sheevinopalpatino4782 shut up
It always pissed me off how the show shat on Edmure.
Ur dp
Was he cooler in the books? because in the show sansas treatment seemed appropriate.
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take.
-Edmure Tully
He has a lot of experience missing shots.
You also miss 100% of the shots you do take. - Edmure Tully
-Edmure Tully
@@chasm671 Tell that to Roslyn Frey ;)
The Edmure "This Is The Moment" bit and his little Sansa rant afterwards is my all-time favorite Glidus moment. Someone needs to upload a video of JUST that so I can share it with my friends, because they see the time of these videos and say they'll watch them which is just a polite way of telling me to fuck myself.
"Usually when you leave a place, you end up in a different place."
I thought I couldn't take anymore reviews of this episode, but I was wrong. Every line in this is gold 🌟
That Edmure skit was hilarious
"usually when you leave a place you end up in a different place" that cracked me up way more than it should have.
your pisstakes certainly are the best outthere
There must have been a solar flare and she ended up back in King's Landing moments after she left through the Star gate and forgot what she was doing.
"Death is the death of death" is oddly more poetic and accurate than the actual line of dialogue
Drogon flew off to audition for the The Witcher
sadly, he lost to a giant fried chicken
I love that we live in 2019 and you probably can't remember the last time you touched a fountain pen. Yet everyone yelled at Brienne, "THE INK ISN'T DRY, DUMBASS!"
I’ve never even written with a quill and ink yet I know. Why can’t Hollywood show runners use their thinking cap for a couple minutes :(
"The amnesia plague spares no one."
Also Tyrion fought off Stannis during his first Handship.
I like how you spoke up for Edmure. When I first saw how he was just cut off by Sansa I thought it was really out of place. I always liked his character and he’s been through a lot. it felt as if the plot was trying to enforce the idea that lesser characters don’t have as much impact on the story than the major ones do - which would of never been an issue earlier in the series where the world building was more impactful.
And like was it supposed to be funny when Sansa cut him off? It's infuriating. The tone of that entire scene is beyond baffling.
@@Glidus The entire second half of the finale is basically a sitcom.
A better ending would've been if Hot Pie had walked in during tyrions trial with an AK-47 and gunned down the whole cast, then used the infinity gauntlet to snap the throne back to reality, sat in it and declared himself the king of not only westeros but also essos. So in the end Hot pie is the king of the whole world and roll credits. This would've been more enjoyable than what we actually got
Hot Pie is Azor Ahai confirmed
I feel like everything after season 5 was just an impossibly long fever dream in Jon's dying mind after the stabbing, and it gets progressively more and more simple and nonsensical because he's losing brain function due to blood loss. This is the only explanation I have that even sort of justifies how this shit went down.
Goddamn I like that explanation, leaves hope they can finish it right one day.
Very good, sir!
Bran: I can not be Lord of Winterfell because I'm not Brandon Stark. I am the Three Eyed Raven.
Tyrion: Hey Bran, wanna be king?
Bran: Sure!
Bran: well duh. Why do u think i came all this way?
Bran: I don't really want anymore
Tyrion: Do you want to be king?
Bran: Hell yes!
"Flaccid" is a good description for season 8.
Thank you for your rant about Edmure and Sansa. I 100% agree.
I honestly got goosbumps when he screamed THE KING IN THE NORTH! Gods, this show was so good back then.
Tyrion uses Jaime as an example of love outweighing reason, which prompts Jon to quote my favorite line from the whole series: 'Love is the death of duty'
Tyrion is like "WTF bro, you can't say good dialogue in season 8", but Jon's says "nah mate, sall all gud, it's a season 1 quote". HAHAAAAA
You Sir are a legend. I've watched countless GOT reviews and your reviews are in a whole new level. I hope you make more of these for Season 6 and 7.
This is my favorite quote from all 6 episodes:
"Oh no, oh no, no, no, no, no, Grand Maester Sam? Go Fuck yourself. He dropped out after one semester. He even has a Chain, this is insulting. Not as insulting as the book though."
my favourite quote is "fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck"
Glidus for 23 straight seconds, that was impressive. I only wish I had tickets to Comic-Con this year so I could say it to D&D in person.
Glidus it turns out Dumb and Dumber chickened out of showing up to the Comic-Con panel. Add to that they gave a speech in the beginning which is a pisser and to cap it all they didn’t have “time” for fans to ask how they pissed away the ending of this show. It almost seemed like they were trying to justify this season but it came across as some shit gave them so they can have a future in Hollywood. Fuck!
"Winterfell is only 6 minutes away from kind landing by jetpack"
Best quote of season 8
I laughed so hard I choked
Thank you
I almost pissed myself at the "This is the moment" for Edmure🤣🤣 The song fit PERFECTLY
Also you are so right, Sansa was insufferable and my boy Edmure was too good for them anyway