No. The NK came south to find and ask someone what the fuck he was supposed to do with all those zombies and lately a dragon that were thrown at him. He thought asking the 3-balled raven was where to start.
10 years later, people still talks about Harry Potter. 20 years later, people still talks about LOTR. 4 years later, no one talks about Game of Thrones. Thats how much they fucked up at the end.
The star wars sequels are a pile of hot human excrement. The end of Game of Thrones was pretty bad but the beginning was amazing. It's a good thing House of the dragon is a good show
4 years later, and I'm still pissed off for the choices they made. Years of waiting, excitement, expectations, all flushed down the toilet in two seasons. Amazing.
I am no longer piseed off. For a long time, I was, because I wanted someone who has reach and audience to say it as it is, but all the youtubers and other media criticising the last season of GoT were trying to be polite and academic. They just couldn't or wouldn't say it as it is, that it is a pure shit. But a year or os after the season wrapped up, I found critical drinker, and he said it as it is. His reviews finally helped me to get over the shitfest that was the season 8 of GoT. And I am forever thankful to him for that.
What pissed me the most was the decision to exile John, a person who had always worked for the good. Throughout the series, everything he did was to protect everyone. He did nothing for his own good and sacrificed his life to save everyone and betrayed his queen in the end, because it was the right thing to do, despite all of this, even though he had the legitimate right to rule, love Of people and leadership skills, he ends up being banished to nowhere, even if he doesn't become king, at least king in the north, or lord commander, or lord of a somewhere , he is the character who is supposed to get a good ending that suits his efforts and his character development throughout the story.Even in an imaginary world we cannot see a good person rewarded for his efforts!! The scene when he was riding beyond the wall with the free folks was a heart broking ,he doesn't belong to the wild
The earlier episodes spoke of debts to the iron bank. Whose representative looked like he could murder you with a quill tipped pen. There was talk of needing time to rebuild armies and resources. Talk of payments and logistics. Where the fuck did all of that go?
Yeah funny how that works eh? Maybe they grow on trees or are tubers like potatoes and just happened to be ripe before the battle 🤣 And maybe Adolf Targaryen still can’t count higher than 20, and Dan & Dave think the audience can’t count either so they just throw forces around without a thought Really, how dumb do D&D think we all are? Did they really think no one would notice??
Jon Snow's entire dialogue in season 8: -She is my queen -She is my queen -She is my queen -She is my queen -She is YOUR queen -She is my queen -You are my queen
Started rewatching the series. Just finished season 4. I think I'll stop there and pretend it just ends with Arrya, Tyrion, and Varys sailing away forever. What a great show.
@@chucksmalley3987 there were some cool scenes from the later seasons like when the hound hacked those raiders to death or when Cersi nuked King's Landing but that last season just pissed me off
The ending to this show was so bad i forgot it even existed. Literally everyone i knew was always talking about this show... and then the last season happened, and everyone pretended the show never existed. They managed to remove it from everyones mind, which is an insane accomplishment when the show used to be good
Adam Collins Wealie boi became king cause who is going to be king except the Psychic Computer brain. Who has pulled a Doctor Strange and looked at all possible outcomes and went with the one he became king. Cause a person who has seen all of human history can’t be anything else.
What maddens me is that the story was always grounded in political truths: a ruler cannot be strong if succession is not assured, which is why Dany was targeted by assassins and Joffrey's illegitimacy mattered. Suddenly a Targaeryan with a legitimate claim on the throne can be banished on a promise not to come back and contest things and a king can be appointed who can never produce a dynasty - guaranteeing the civil war will start again when Bran dies. Nice one 👍
Dude, same and well said. It's pointless and stupid to have a Stark on one throne and a Stark on the other. The point? Especially when one can't breed wtf... The best way to fix that would be to have the actual classic hero (Jon Snow) with the legitimate claim to the throne defeat the Night King, saving all mankind, and having the stealth assassin (Arya Stark) or the trusted hand (Tyrion) take out the mad queen in one of their clever fashions. This would leave Jon open to taking the reigns alongside his cousin Sansa, uniting the entire continent of wildings, northerners, and southern Targaryen loyalists. If the eunuch army got their panties in a twist, then Melisandre could have used Jon's kings blood to awaken one of the stone dragons on Dragonstone, easily wiping out the foreign threat. Uniting the Stark and Targaryen houses is what will bring stability and peace to the entire realm. Literally everyone but the "writers" knew this, but I guess subverting expectations gave them a bigger boner than writing a cohesive and satisfying story that dozens of people dedicated over a decade of their lives to create.
I’ve been reading up a lot on the Wars of the Roses… which GoT is kinda based on (dynastic wars due to crisis in succession). Problem for a TV show is its theme doesn’t conclude… the wheel never breaks! And the writers had no way of imagining a way out of that conundrum. Same with George M. should Dany rule? Why? Should jon? Why? The only conclusion to war is legacy. Which is why Return of the King ending was so boring.
@@theManishMuse 100% legacy. It made no sense for 2 Starks to rule the north and south, and the south to have an impotent king that couldn't produce heirs. That leads to warfare and why a Queen bearing sons was always so important. Daughters weren't ideal, but they could reign if all else failed and preserve peace. Jon and Dany would have been able to unite both the north and south with their bloodlines, but Jon and Sansa/Arya would have achieved the same result if Dany was destined to die. So many viable and interesting options but they went with Bran the Boring... -.-
@@intpleb4206 it doesn't even have to be clever. Jon is the male heir. He technically killed Dany who was a usurper since the rightful heir Jon was still alive. He broke no laws by killing her and should've immediately been crowned king.
I have a bunch of fond memories watching the show and it had a big impact on what I expect from a well written story. But knowing that everything in the show is leading up to this.... I just can't bring myself to even consider re watching it and I don't feel much desire interacting with the rest of the associated media or discussions about it either. It's definitely weird though, how seemingly an entire slice of my life has effectively been deleted. A real shame.
This. It was a huge hype, with merchandise, T-Shirts, fans discussing every episode - and then it just - disappeared. As if it never happened. The end destroyed the entire thing.
I had been downloading every episode right from the very first, but I watched the last season on HBO. Within days of the final episode, I deleted all my downloaded files and dumped the entire show. Completely un-watchable.
Wrong. They tried to dig their way out of several thousand tonnes of stone bricks, the tragedy is when they almost reached the top, they ran out of strength and died.
I love how the previous episode, the dungeon collapsed entirely. Every wall, archway and brick in the place fell like dominos. Next episode, like 10 bricks in an empty room.
What honestly boiled my skin was the fact that Jon is the true heir to the throne and NO ONE THOUGHT TO MENTION THIS AT THE END?! Then he’s banished to the Watch but just leaves? Then Bran is just supposed to bow to an unsullied prick who is the commander to a dead queen (meaning he literally has no say or purpose anymore) What the serious flying fuck
@@davidpanepento2998 I would have been ok with Jon not becoming king at the end if it made sense. Jon made it clear that he didn’t want to rule, so why not have him pass the crown off to someone he deems fit? Or maybe he accepts the crown to finish what Dany had originally started? I’ve listened to many other people give ideas on how the show should have ended that are light years beyond than what D&D pooped out.
The worst part was the Danae and Cersi showdown. It was built up over 7 seasons and we were expecting some massive battle between the two. And then Cersi is...buried by rubble. What an anticlimax.
And in Season 8, they never have a conversation and only staring at each other. Even Sansa out of people have a conversation with her and even own Daenerys by asking her "What about The North?" When she's finally conquer Westeros. The only time they talked was on the end of Season 7 in Dragonpit andddd that's it!
I watched Mauler's season 8 videos recently and he brought up a question I hadn't thought of - what exactly made Dany stop attacking? The troops/city had already surrendered, Cersei was killed by coincidence with no way of Dany knowing about it, was it just an actual kill count she was after? I've had breakups that hurt less than this shows final season
But GOT has rarely ever went the way the audience thought it would. The Red Wedding, The Viper and the Mountain duel for example. Cerci getting a reasonably tame death and Deaneries turning out to be a bit of a mad Targaryen was about as Game of Thrones-y as you an get in terms of subverted expectations. I wasn’t that disappointed to be honest.
HAHAHA! Yeahhh that one one of the +/- 10 facepalm moments in the finale. Apparently I missed Davos telling the Unsullied to settle down and START FAMILIES, but there still were plenty more.
The writing of D&D. These twats got a Star Wars trilogy based on the writing of GRRM. Disney CEO Bob Iger said he hasn't been paying attention to GoT the last few seasons lol. I mean WTF? Do resumes mean anything anymore? Lets hire some guys to handle one of the most popular stories of all time so lets not look into their previous work or how well it was received. Unbelievable.
@@eternalreign2313 You'd think after Rian (I'm gonna fuck up star wars for everyone) Johnson they'd take more care. This really worries me after seeing GoT season 8.
Remember, "A Dance with Dragons" was published in 2011. We are now 12 years later and "The Winds of Winter" is still in the works, with the final book "A Dream of Spring" clearly not coming out this century.
just turned her in to a world domination cartoon villain .she came to Westeros to break wheel meaning stop the power struggle cycling over and over again then they made her want everyone to kneel and shit like wtf she never even asked slave masters to kneel .
They were trying to play the angle of her being a Targaryen and inheriting the "mad gene". It's just that nothing really indicated at her being THIS mad. She was cruel towards the end, sure, but not this batshit insane where she suddenly decides to torch innocent people and the city she wants to conquer and rule. What was she going to do with the throne and the city afterwards? It's been razed to the ground. It makes zero sense.
@@sleepysleeper3485 If she’s gone “mad” she doesn’t have to make sense, her burning down Kings Landing made as much sense to her as it did to her father. It was also foreshadowed all the way back in season 2 that she was going to destroy Kings Landing in the house of the undying, you literally see the Throne room destroyed. So her going mad and burning them all was always going to happen it’s just that the writers didn’t allow proper build up to it
@@josephstalin2606 give me a break. It was horrible writing. Dany went “mad” and killed people for absolutely no reason. If she didn’t value human life at all, why did she care so much about freeing the slaves? Her entire story makes no sense. D&D are the worst writers in human history.
Having not read the books I could still tell when they ran out of the author's source material. It was so obvious. It just took a turn and you knew that something was missing and it was not good. Unbelieveable that they managed to ruin it so completely.
The sad thing is that they didn’t run out of source material. They stopped adapting it after season 4. Book 4 and five never got to screen and they are both thick fuckers with plenty of stuff going on. With only these two they could have made another two or even three seasons giving the author the time to finish his damned book, and if he still hasn’t then just use the shit ton of sample chapters he released for yet another season. But they were like « nah we’re smarter than him we’ll figure it out »
It was actually impressive what the writers actually did. They created the most amazing TV show to exist, they may not even be able to make one that is better. And then they destroyed it in an also insanely amazing way that they destroyed its legacy and memory with it. There are very few shows or films that have ever self-destructed so amazingly well.
They did not create anything they bought someone else's intellectual property and turned it into a TV show. It's like me making a mod for Skyrim to turn into a multiplayer game and then saying I created the best video game in existence.
Things that doesn't matter: -John's lineage -Jaime's arc -Arya's shapeshifting skills -Bran warging abilities -Prince that was promised -Azor Ahai -Lord of Light -horse at the end of episode 5
That horse was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen. It was funny in a similar fashion to when Walter found out skylar took all the money from the crawl space
And it gonna cost HBO BILLIONS meanwhile they could of just fired dumb and dumber after season 5 and made 7 more seasons and made more BILLIONS, I swear people are not thinking.
Notice how Arya, Sansa and Bran were all in King’s Landing at the same time? Apparently ‘there must always be a Stark in Winterfell’ is no longer a thing either
@@CODA96 He probably warged into some poor person's body and used him as a remote controlled puppet in Winterfell while he was half paying attention to what was being said in front of him. That could explain the fact that he first said that he didn't want the throne and then said that this was what he had been working towards to all this time.
@@MarcelNL Exactly Marcel. Bran also warged into Ned Stark and let him be killed on purpose. He also warged into Walder Frey and executed his brother and mother. He also warged into Dany AND her Dragon at the same time: Dany never wanted to be Queen of Ashes, but Bran made her do it! And at the end, Bran warged into Jon and he killed Dany, it was just supposed to look like bad storywriting. Proof me wrong, i can explain ANYTHING with ''Bran did it''.
All these people freaking out like every joke on the internet isn't stolen and reused a million times. I'll do you guys one better. I made this joke while watching the episode when it first aired. Get on my level.
I can never forgive how they turned Tyrion, one of the most interesting, clever and witty characters into a whatever he was by the end of GoT. Its the only purpose he was there was because he was a fan favorite and needed to be on the screen for that purpose only. He was basically turned into an empty uniform that said whatever was needed for whatever shitty plot point they were trying to do in a specific episode
At season three: Friend: Do you watch GoT? It's amazing. Me: Nah, I'm not into modern story telling. Friend: This is different, it's so good, you'll like it. At season seven: *Crickets* After ending: Me: So should I watch GoT? Friend: *Grumbles*
They kept around just to deliver the who has a better story than bran line. They thought the Tyrion fan base would just accept that line cuz he delivered it, I think they knew if he didn't deliver it literally NO ONE would have bought. I mean not many did buy it....
@@Ackalan seasons 1-4 were good, then they ran out of the book material and it all went to shit, not to mention they were left unsupervised by GRRM Also BTW if you're 'not into modern storytelling' what are you even doing on the channel that's all about it? You should probably be on the channel about Shakespearean plays or something
He was my favorite character. Absolutely pissed all over his character by the end. He became predictable and in many ways unpredictable for all the wrong reasons. His cleverness that kept him alive was completely destroyed as his decision making was terrible. I'm surprised he wasn't killed off as every choice he made was wrong.
The story of the rise and fall of GoT is like a Greek tragedy. It was at one point the most fucking incredible show to have existed, that had the biggest fanbase in the world who were obsessed with endless theories about how it would end. Wherever you went, GoT would come up in conversation as casually as football. It was a phenomenon, lightning in a bottle. It was arguably the biggest pop culture touchstone of the 2010`s. And then season 8 happened. In just a handful of episodes they managed to completely crumble the towering monolith they had built. GoT was now a joke, and will forever be remembered as thus. It was so bad it made us question if the show was ever really good from the get go. And if was all because of the staggering hubris of the show's creators and the laziness of the original author. Even if it had stuck the landing in a bumpy way, the show still would have been remembered as an amazing achievement. But they didn't so much land, as more like crash to earth and torch the entire runway. Thus it will remain as a cautionary tale to all those who want to know how not to finish a series.
This is exactly what I said to my wife. It was like watching EastEnders set in westeros. They even cut an argument half way through, pure soap classic. FFS!
@@kene301187 So basically he steals my plan for winning battle royals of just chill until every is dead or out of ammo and hitpoints, then I just swoop in for the win when no one is expecting it.
Season 8 was probably the most disappointing thing I've ever been through in my life. Just years of loving the show, reading the books, obsessing over it, just to end like shit.
How can this actually happen? The show is based on the books of an author. Did the show extend beyond the stories in the books? And if so, did the author not have creative control over what came after for some weird reason? He is/was a cash cow. How would this happen? Did he himself start to not care anymore and give shitty input?
@@Dowlphin Yes, the show extended beyond the books. I think after season six? And that's when it became garbage. I don't know how GRRM allowed what happened in the shows after that point. My hypothesis is that he wanted to retain interest in his final book (Winds of Winter, still in the process of being written to this day!) and so he let the show go off in whatever direction so that his own plot points and arcs would still be worth reading; people would be a lot less interested in reading the book if the show already spoiled everything. Maybe he even knew just how bad the writing for the final two seasons was and let it happen because now everyone who was dissatisfied with the show will be lining up to throw money at him so that the book can wash the bad taste out of their mouths!
@@Palomino0813 That seems to make sense. Although maybe a sincere lack of writing motivation is the driving force. Maybe the show producers wanted to continue and he couldn't keep up. And I could even imagine this connection being relevant. Writing for stupid modern Hollywood can be a downer.
@@Dowlphin That, as well. I know other writers have had issues because the studio they write for has different ideas for how they want the show to go, and both parties tug on it until it just rips apart in the middle.
"And Bran's like 'Yeah, whatever, I've got more prehistoric wheelchairs to browse.' " It seriously took me almost a full minute to stop laughing. 😂 Also, awesome Terry Funk reference!
Dany kinda forgot she liked children. Tyrion kinda forgot he was smart. Jaime kinda fogot he cared about the innocent. Varys kinda forgot he was the scheming spider. The ruins of kings landing kinda forgot they were reduced to rubble. The dothraki kinda forgot they were wiped out. Arya kinda forgot she was an assassin. Grey worm kinda forgot Jon killed his queen. Drogon kinda forgot Jon killed his mother. The lords kinda forgot Jon saved Westeros. Jaime kinda forgot he was stabbed multiple times. Gilly kinda forgot she saw the dagger in the book. Bran kinda forgot there was no night's watch anymore. The wildlings kinda forgot to leave for the north when they said they would. The lords kinda forgot Jon was the true heir to the throne. Everyone kinda forgot the dothraki. Everyone kinda forgot there was always supposed to be a Stark in Winterfell. Everyone kinda forgot about the prophecies. Some suggestions from the comments and more of my own: The Iron Bank kinda forgot about their loan. The Faceless Men kinda forgot they wanted Arya dead. The Golden Company kinda forgot how to fight. Bran kinda forgot he had no power in the south. Bran kinda forgot he didn't want to rule. Little Finger kinda forgot he was sly. The woman in Winterfell Little Finger paid kinda forgot what she was being paid for. Sansa kinda forgot Brynden Tully was a good guy. The Iron Men kinda forgot they wanted independency. Everyone kinda forgot about Dorne. The scorpions kinda forgot about bullet drop. Dany kinda forgot Jorah asked her to put faith into Tyrion. Jon kinda forgot to speak. Dany kinda forgot about her dad. Cersei's soldiers kinda forgot to shoot the scorpions. Gregor Clegane kinda forgot to listen to Cersei and Qyburn. Qyburn kinda forgot to make wildfire. The wights kinda forgot to kill major characters.
What about the story of John fucking snow started from nothing never knew his parents rose to the top killed then brought back to life to become the king of the 7 kingdoms but noooo BRAN THE FUCKING BROKEN WHOS MIND IS ELSE WHERE AND DOESNT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING....
@@evoak8575 Are you saying they should have proposed to the Unsullied holding the city and Jon captive, that Jon should be the person who will decide how Jon is punished?
There was a question that was ask in the pick of game of thrones success … “Is there something Lord of the rings has, that game of thrones doesn’t?”. Things that it had: -Awesome fight scenes. -Gore. -Drama. -Sex. - Magic. - Well written characters. -Dragons. - Giants. -Zombies. -Culture. -STAKES. The One thing that GOT didn’t have, that LOTR had. A well done ending.
It seems unbelievable that Greyworm and the Unsullied, would just blindly follow Dany after her actions in season 8. I get that they are loyal to her because she freed them. But they went on to follow her because she was good. After she goes crazy, you'd have thought her army would still have the same mental state as before
I haven’t heard anyone mention the second to last episode in which Dany INEXPLICABLY decides to flip a complete 180 and massacre thousands of innocent people. The final episode was irrelevant at that point because the credibility of the characters was already erased.
I binged this whole series in the past two weeks and I was honestly so confused as to why she did that?? Like seeing her character from season one to 8 change so abruptly was like wth???
"I can't believe Dany sailing to Westeros was the final scene of GoT. So sad that HBO decided to cancel the show after only 6 seasons, but atleast it ended on a high note." Almost fixed it for us.
This will be true for me. I've got 1-6 on bluray and wont ever buy 7 or 8. I'm planning to write a conclusion with a friend so I can just reject this d&d pos fanfiction.
@@RJ-cq8dd for me its 1 through 4 and I'll watch 5 just for Cersei killing those sparrow fucks. I bought the books cus of the shitty end so I hope I like those.
D&D wanted to give everyone a happy ending, totally forgetting that A Song Of Ice And Fire was never about happy endings. It was about consequences, for one. Remember Ed Stark and how he was loved and seemingly did everything right and by the book (of honor)? Guess what, that's not how the game of throne works, and he died for it. Everyone who made a mistake in the game of thrones was punished for it. And here we have season 8, where everyone can make the most dumb mistakes and not only get away with it, but rewarded for it. D&D really forgot what made the books and the early seasons of the show great. They valued fan service and nice visuals over great story telling. I can' t believe how dissapointed I still am about this. They had gold, but turned it into shit
The last episode felt like what happens when you're invested in writing an interesting essay and you suddenly realize the time is almost running out so you shove a bunch of mumbo jumbo to avoid handing in a hanging story
I guess the Wildlings all forgot that they had been granted lands to the south of the wall and that they had been fighting for generations to get south of the wall specifically to acquire those lands so they didn't have to keep scraping a miserable living from the frozen rocks of a barren tundra. I guess they all came down with that amnesia bug that seems to have been going around in season 8.
It's like you expect the people that write four out of six of the last episodes to give a fuck about it? What's wrong with you? Don't you know who you're dealing with?
Yep. The Wildlings were the Mongols. The Wall in GoT is the Great Wall, ostensibly to keep out Mongol warriors, but actually to keep out Mongol trade and keep Mongols out of China. What was a deeply meaningful story resonant with actual human history and complexity becomes a stupid Hollywood Western trope. "Go North young man!" Just stupid.
The Wildlings are the Picts (or Scots). That is Hadrian's Wall not the Great Wall of China (pretty sure GRR said something along those lines at one point). Hadrian's Wall was the wall at the end of the world. The Dothraki are sort of the Mongols, though Mongol cavalry were much heavier armoured and had more archers.
Dude probably blabbed his mouth the second he saw someone, for some reason Jon Snow doesn't understand the concept of keeping a secret or just shutting up about literally anything. It's the same reason he just had to tell Cersei he bent the knee to Daenerys when it would guarantee Cersei wouldn't help them. The writers just made him stupid because, well why not?
@@natb9919to be real, that's how all the Stark men were; to fuckin' honest. Talk too damn much. Revelling plans to your enemies and thinking sh!t sweet afterwards.
C) The fact that 10 minutes into the series' pilot established the white walkers as a credible and ominous threat not to be tied up in a single episode by a character that had no emotional attachment to the arc.
it's not that hard. just imagine how a character would react in real life situations. You need to read some elementary things about logic and common sense and you are set.
"What would an evil mastermind who relies entirely on depection do when the lord looks him square in the face and quotes his own evil motto at him, making it obvious that the jig is up?" "Uuhmm... stick around and keep trying?"
One thing was missing from this review: the fact that a huge fucking dragon is now roaming the world and the small council says (in your words) "Nah, it'll be fine". Amazing stuff. Doesn't change the fact that you're absolutely right; it's been nearly four years and how GoT was treated in the end still breaks my heart.
I think the worst possible thing that was left was the motive of the night King, the importance of Bran and their connection. I was really hoping to see some massive reveal about Bran being the night king or something. Just a waste of a show, still upsetting to think about the last 3 seasons
I gave up watching about 1/2 way through and my husband summarized it for me afterwards. ETA: Just for reference, I've been loyally watching since S1E1 aired, but God...
It makes me so sad how this show tanked itself. I LOVED this show and it was heartbreaking watching it crash and burn in such spectacular fashion. I can normally laugh off a shit ending to a show but for some reason this one just pisses me off. I’m no screenwriter but I can think of many ways they could’ve done this and all of them are better than what we got. Honestly if they announced they’re retconning S8 and doing it again I’d be fine with that. I’d happily bury this season and never return to it again. Jon should’ve been the king.
The Battle at Winterfell was what really made me realize Dan & Dan werent gonna stick the landing . Sending the majorly out numbered Dothraki right at the Night King was just stupid and as their Fire swords went out so did my Hopes of a good Finally !!!
Now that it's been a couple years, what's interesting is how thoroughly AGoT has been dropped from pop culture. The actors show up in other media but the show itself just vanished. There's a sense that GRRM won't ever finish the series, may not even finish the next book. Hollywood still has big plans for spinoffs, prequels, etc. but I feel like the viewing public is just done with it. That's a hell of a finale, that it was bad enough to destroy the whole run of the series.
@@LemuriaGames Exactly. Perhaps it explains why D&D suddenly decided to drop out of taking over Star Wars, after having rushed AGoT's ending just to start on it. OTOH, the new prequel, House of the Dragon, is excellent. It started out doing good but not great in the ratings, and then viewership steadily increased as word got around.
Playing as a character who's more intelligent that you are is also pretty hard. I mean, sure, you can just go "Intelligence check!" at every occasion, but that sounds a bit cheap.
What was the point of Arya's faceless powers if she didn't use them once this season? Why was Jon a Targaryen if it made no difference in the plot? Why did Drogon think a chair killed Dany?
@@kurdia100 That seems to be the sort of symbolism they wanted to convey, but er, when did dragons become capable of making such sophisticated philosophical distinctions? They have only ever proved themselves capable of understanding a single word. They are intelligent creatures, but the idea that Drogon somehow intuits that the desire for power (the Iron Throne) is more responsible for the death of his mother than the guy he just watched stab her to death, is, for want of a better word, fucktarded
@@kurdia100 Him being a Targaryen is not a very good explanation as to why the dragon didn't kill him. Targaryans fought Targaryans before in succession wars. An example is a civil war known as "the dance of the dragons" between Rhaenyra and her brother Aegon II. It all ended with Rhaenyra being captured and Aegon feeding her to his dragon while forcing her son to watch. I guess you could argue that Drogon "knows" Jon. But he hasn't really known him for that long so it's a pretty lame excuse to me. It seemed like the writers just wanted to have that cool scene because of SiiiMboLisM so they put it in there without thinking too much about it.
Went from “it doesn’t matter whose skeleton sits on the iron throne” to “the iron throne was always the main plot.” I cannot believe the White Walkers got tossed aside.
I blame it on the showrunners for committing to 73 episodes. They were too eager to move onto their next success, and said like a metronome, "73 hours is all we need", when in reality its clear they needed much more time to finish it off and it showed.
@@xshadionytpx7891 Don't get me started how Anakin and Luke's story were pissed on by Disney. I watched Forces Awakens and all my friends gave me shit because I thought it was weak lol. It makes me mad because there are better stories in the expanded universe and video games then that shit show.
Tragic...I've heard no talk of GOT since it ended. Nobody talking of how they miss it, or wishing they'd bring it back. Before the eighth season, i often spoke of buying the complete series once it ended to rewatch over and over. Now i no longer want to as the last season destroyed the series. Knowing how stupid and lame it all ended killed all the passion to reinvest my time in a worthless cause. R.I.P GOT.
I feel the same way. I used to live for GOT. The ringtone on my cell is even the GOT theme. But once the series ended, I just didn't give a shit about it anymore.
That's truly the greatest tragedy of all. They didn't just kill the show. They retroactively ereased everything good about it from existence. They made sure that what arguably used to be, and should have been the greatest TV show of all time will be remembered as nothing more than a bitter disappointment, and in a few years, even that will have been forgotten. It will become nothing more than another entry in the long list of dead franchises that we all wasted our time on. Thinking about this SHOULD make me furious, but the sad thing is that I don't even care enough anymore to laugh about it. I'm just done.
Totally agree, I lived for every new season, watched every episode multiple times waiting for the following week, watched other people’s reaction vids to kill time, bought every blue ray and now it all seems so stupid after the last two seasons totally killed the years I invested.
My friends' honest words about GoT: "We need to find another show to watch." That's how much it meant to them, and they'd been trying to convince me to watch it for years.
My favorite easter egg is the Unsullied going to Noth. If you aren't from Noth there is this butterfly there that basically kills you if you don't possess like... Noth antibodies or something? Either way. They will all die when they land and 'viist'. It's a pretty baller move from Missandei not to tell Grey Worm and the other Unsullied about this super important detail about where she comes from.
So Jon being a Targaryian that was built up for ages actually means NOTHING. Bran being the 3 eyed raven actual meant NOTHING. So much wasted. I just pray the books if they ever get written actually makes this make sense.
i just came here after 3 yrs to say bran is the most evil person in the show he saw the future and let all those ppl die so he can become king 🤮 also jon is still a bastard .raegar was married to elia martell .thats why he secretly married Lilyanna just to fool her
TV and movies are becoming unwatchable, and GOT is a perfect exemplar of why. You NEED a well written story with consistent and compelling characters. Flashy effects won't fix a bad script.
Every time I watch this last episode I get soooooooo freaking angry for Jon. What the actual f. They mulliganed almost every story arc to finish this show in such an unsatisfying way. Literally tear up for how bad it makes me feel.
Yeah instead he just gets sentenced to hangout with his friends up north. And if Greyworm and all of Dany's men are leaving westeros, why do the other kingdoms agree to punish Jon and Tyrion
@@spawncampe Better yet, why is Tyrion punished because he was the Queen’s hand, but the Queen’s literal ARMY responsible for single-handedly slaughtering countless of innocents after she went mad not given any type of punishment? Tyrion is imprisoned, but these guys are somehow still free to make demands?
The fact the two producers still have jobs is proof positive about how corrupt the entertainment industry is. Producing bad but fun shit (looking at you Mike Bay) is one thing, but these two LITERALLY destroyed the final season so badly that it went back in time and nuked all 7 prior seasons, and, it wouldn't be a stretch to think that it will fundamentally impact the sales of George RR Martin's final book when released.
The 'final books' are never being released. He wrote himself into such an awful corner. While shoving most of the characters into a building and blowing them all up was hamfisted, it was probably the best of a range of bad options. However, that doesn't fix others; like how Brienne was literally being eaten at the end of her last chapter. Can't square that with the show.
It's crazy how GoT has been completely forgotten. The last season was such a dumpster fire, that nobody even talks about GoT any more, unless it's to mock how disastrously it ended. A show that was universally praised, that was such a hype, that everyone was talking about and that was considered great by many critics... just cast down to the forgotten abyss because these idiot writers fucked it all up.
Daenerys burning down Kings Landing is extremely symbolic. Daenerys symbolizes D&D, and Kings Landing symbolizes the show. And the innocent people of Kings Landing are the fans. Good job D&D. Dumpster fire doesn't even begin to describe this. D&D didn't even try with season 8. Didn't even try.
@@Fabi_87 Look, I understand the appeal of looking to the books for a satisfying end to an amazing saga, but let's get real here. Martin is going to die of a massive heart attack before he finishes the next book, let alone two of them. I mean, he's always written slowly but this absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure if he's simply lost his passion or if he is just incapable of writing a good ending to a book series that is visibly struggling under it's own weight. Either way, he's well into his seventies and weighs as much as a Mini Cooper so I can't imagine a reality where he lives long enough to complete his work. Not when he's currently working at a pace of roughly a decade per book.
@@bredincaptivity4692 They'll hire someone to finish them for him, if he leaves enough notes/instructions on what he was going to do. They did it with Branden Sanderson for The Wheel of Time. They might do it again.
That first bit with Tyrion searching in the rubble - there's no conflict, nothing to provide drama. We're just watching him act. Then later when we get that extreme closeup of his face - it just seemed to never end. I was checking my watch, half unsure if the video was just paused.
@@firebush1343 I actually quit watching in season 5, but came back and finished for the release of season 8. So personally my expectations were not high, but even so seasons 7 and 8 were particularly sub-par.
@@WalterLiddy Lol, we had actually paused the video at that point (toilet break or some other thing more interesting than the show) and when we sat down again, after some time my wife said, impatiently, "play it then"; "it IS playing I said" as the imp slowly moved an eye. "Oh", she said...
"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair! Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Could've been on par with the lore depth of Breaking Bad and Star Wars, but they just haaad to wreck the show in the final season. An apocalyptic waste. The next generation of showwriters should strive to avoid this disaster
George RR Martin carried this show. As soon as he was out it went steeply downhill. Weiss and Benioff were incapable from the beginning. They were just lucky they had Martin
I mean the dude had a history writing books and for TV shows. So he atleast had a good idea of its ins/outs/pitfalls. That being said he should have never sold the rights until he was on his last book. He was naive to think they wouldn't catch up to his writing and blinded by the mountain of cash HBO dumped on his doorstep.
@@pokeman5000 Its to bad we don't get to see the final vision of his story played out on the screen. Maybe he thought he'd pull off a JK Rowling and finish the series while the books were being adapted.
I am of the Opinion that The Reason the Last 2 Seasons and the ending being Trash, we’re because the Last 2 books aren’t finished and there was no source Material to pull from. I hate to Shit on the man, but you have had 10 years to finish that God damn book let alone his series so He is just as responsible for this show going down hill. I am also skeptical where or not the ending to the books will be worth a damn.
This show ends at season 6, Jon’s parentage revealed and king of the north. Dany finally coming to Westeros with Tyrion and Varys. Cersei on the iron throne. Arya coming back to Westeros. That’s it. That’s the end. Brilliant cliff hanger
My canon ending: Jon Snow died at the wall. Danny comes to Westeros and conquers the entire nation at massive cost to herself. The night king invades while Bran desperately tries to reach Dany in time to warn her but is killed by bounty hunters hunting down anyone with the last name stark. Danny gets the thrown after losing two of her dragons to do it. The night king sweeps through the land like a plague and the I’ll prepared peoples of Westeros either die to his blade or they starve to death due to the lack of resources as they didn’t prepare for winter. Kingslanding comes under siege and Dany bravely defends the city. Fighting off a two front war between the hordes of white walkers and the starving citizens of Kingslanding who’ve begun to riot due to lack of food. The battle leads to a major collapse of law and order and Dany in desperation to save what lives she can blazes away with her dragon killing thousands while in a state of pure terror. She repels the invasion but kings landing is ablaze from the intense battle. The night king makes his way to the red keep as Dany desperately tries to force him back but must avoid his ice spears that have already wounded her dragon and has begun to take its toll. The night king reaches the iron and turns all of her servants including missandere into white walkers. Dany bursts through the walls on her dragon and burns the night king just as an ice spear pierced her dragons heart and kills him. The resulting death if the night king send a cold wave of ice and snow that quells the fires of Kingslanding as every white Walker vaporizes with him. Dany is left in the cold ruins as ash and snow fall, sitting on the throne alone. The kingdom a frozen wasteland and the last dragon now dead. Her lineage dies with her. Her subjects dead and dying and the prophecy has been fulfilled. She now rules over an ash filled kingdom alone. And the camera slowly pans out as she sits upon the throne in a daze before screaming in bitter rage as she’s lost everything. Cut to black. Credits. That’s a fucking subversion for you. That would’ve fit the narrative and the entire point of Game of thrones. I literally just came up with this on whim. Yet it works way better than this garbage. Sign me up I’ll retcon this trash and give this series a proper ending. At least mine fits in with the prophecy of azure Hai and the ash throne.
@@henriccarlsson9052 MauLer is another YT critic, and he was less than happy about Jon ditching Ghost. Look up "Game of Thrones: S08E04: An Unbridled Rage"
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I remember that I resisted watching GoT until season 5 but after the Hardhome episode I got hooked... and my reason to resist it was knowing that RR Martin was nowhere near finishing his series of books, I knew the TV show would eventually catch the books and that tv writers are usually not very good at writing intelligent stuff, or else they will be book writers... so I kinda knew this was coming in the end and well, it didn't surprised me at all
Yes, me too, although I'm also looking forward to Alt Shift X's review later, if he bothers. I'm not sure I would. What a 'FUCK YOU' this series turned out to be.
By far the worst thing about GoT messing up the ending is that it has ruined a pretty much one of a kind story. Nothing else comes close to the quality of GoT's many long running story threads and the insane payoffs that get set up over the course of almost the entire story. Now we've seen an ending that was probably very close to how GRRM might have planned, but it was executed in the worst possible way. Additionally, it seems very apparent that the show overtaking the books has played a huge role in GRRM's difficulties with finishing the books. So not only has the show ruined the ending that we probably would have gotten, it has most likely robbed us of any meaningful ending to this story whatsoever. And there will not be another GoT.
I rarely let a bad ending ruin the entire show for me. Many shows still maintain their status despite having a bad ending but in this case it just ruined everything. The final season was so bad that I wish I forgot all about the existence of this whole series.
@@DielsonSales Right? The fucking catacombs collapsed. But when Tyrion gets there it's only a tiny piece of rubble in some corner? And the two of them are perfectly fine without a scratch. They would have been mush...such a waste.
I was hoping Tyrion was using the brick on Cersei's head because she got Jamie killed. Nope, Tyrion is sad his sadistic sister, who tried to kill him more than any one on the entire show, had died.
"I know a killer when I see one" -Arya Stark the Genius, just after almost being viciously killed by Daenerys for an entire episode, along with hundreds of thousands of innocent people What an amazingly wise observation! What meaningful input!
Got to love the hypocrisy and irony. "Why are you here Arya? To kill Cersie but your girlfriend killed her first. She is a killer" And what the heck are you? Was Arya going to tickle Cersie to death?
I WANTED to like Arya but the interviews with that egotistical Maise were such a turn-off. She acted as if she were some type of Wonder Woman because SHE was selected to make "the kill". Arya was just another "tool" in an empty and meaningless toolbox.
@@aileenpi73 Even if she tickled Cersei to death she'd still be killing her. No, instead she showed up, changed her mind after the Hound gives her a logical directive which he admits is contrary to his illogical one, and, glancing down at the map room floor, noticed hey, even this map is stopping West of Westeros, what's up with that? Got a new purpose now, gotta go, Sandor, thank you! She kind of forgot about who she was intermittently (after the hit on the head that concussed her during the exit from King's Landing and made her hallucinate that white horse).
Jon Snow's entire character arc was literally for nothing. I mean the fact he didn't become king in the end is unacceptable. His whole build up in the last two seasons is to become what he was born to be, and they just put him right back where he started. What an absolute travesty.
The worst ending because of Snow killing Daenerys and Drogon not roasting his ass.....smh. You describing Bran being unfit to lead is eerily similar to Joe Biden 😂
The Night King was trying to kill Bran to save us from this disappointment
I've been thinking the same thing since Episode 3 this Season.
The night king was our champion
And Jaime's kingslaying level was so high, he tried to kill the king 8 seasons ago. (Not my joke)
he was the hero in the story.
No. The NK came south to find and ask someone what the fuck he was supposed to do with all those zombies and lately a dragon that were thrown at him. He thought asking the 3-balled raven was where to start.
Drogon flew away to find better writers
@Rwaggy Rwuper Rwinstincts If GRRM ever gets off his duff and finishes his novels then Drogon and Dany should be in good hands.
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Or punish Beinoff and Weiss for killing off his mother.
@@snappycenter7863 Pity they were not on the Iron Throne when Drogon torched it.
They're hiding in Valyria
10 years later, people still talks about Harry Potter. 20 years later, people still talks about LOTR. 4 years later, no one talks about Game of Thrones. Thats how much they fucked up at the end.
In the same way, the sequel trilogy is being forgotten.
The star wars sequels are a pile of hot human excrement.
The end of Game of Thrones was pretty bad but the beginning was amazing.
It's a good thing House of the dragon is a good show
@@NoNoSquare For now, at least.
They do talk about it
true but only because george r.r martin never finished his own series
4 years later, and I'm still pissed off for the choices they made. Years of waiting, excitement, expectations, all flushed down the toilet in two seasons. Amazing.
Same
And STILL no WoW
I'll never forget my shock after season 8 episode 3. I had hope they would land the ending but I was so so wrong.
I am no longer piseed off. For a long time, I was, because I wanted someone who has reach and audience to say it as it is, but all the youtubers and other media criticising the last season of GoT were trying to be polite and academic.
They just couldn't or wouldn't say it as it is, that it is a pure shit. But a year or os after the season wrapped up, I found critical drinker, and he said it as it is. His reviews finally helped me to get over the shitfest that was the season 8 of GoT. And I am forever thankful to him for that.
What pissed me the most was the decision to exile John, a person who had always worked for the good. Throughout the series, everything he did was to protect everyone. He did nothing for his own good and sacrificed his life to save everyone and betrayed his queen in the end, because it was the right thing to do, despite all of this, even though he had the legitimate right to rule, love
Of people and leadership skills, he ends up being banished to nowhere, even if he doesn't become king, at least king in the north, or lord commander, or lord of a somewhere , he is the character who is supposed to get a good ending that suits his efforts and his character development throughout the story.Even in an imaginary world we cannot see a good person rewarded for his efforts!! The scene when he was riding beyond the wall with the free folks was a heart broking ,he doesn't belong to the wild
"Dany had 15000 unsullied left, after she started with 8000 and 35000 died" -Anon
It's the new "woke math";feelings
not facts.😂😂😂
The earlier episodes spoke of debts to the iron bank. Whose representative looked like he could murder you with a quill tipped pen. There was talk of needing time to rebuild armies and resources. Talk of payments and logistics. Where the fuck did all of that go?
Unlimited Refill on soft drinks and Dothraki Horsemen on a Monday.
Yeah funny how that works eh?
Maybe they grow on trees or are tubers like potatoes and just happened to be ripe before the battle 🤣
And maybe Adolf Targaryen still can’t count higher than 20, and Dan & Dave think the audience can’t count either so they just throw forces around without a thought
Really, how dumb do D&D think we all are? Did they really think no one would notice??
@@robhay3438 free bottles of water and $tarbucks coffee? ☕
Jon Snow's entire dialogue in season 8:
-She is my queen
-She is my queen
-She is my queen
-She is my queen
-She is YOUR queen
-She is my queen
-You are my queen
That's "MUH" queen to the plebs 😁
Don't forget "I don't want it."
You will always be muh queen *mercy stabby*
@@originalsun5206 Always = next 2 seconds
Muh kween! Duh!
Started rewatching the series. Just finished season 4. I think I'll stop there and pretend it just ends with Arrya, Tyrion, and Varys sailing away forever. What a great show.
Don't stop the series is great despite the ending.
@@chucksmalley3987 there were some cool scenes from the later seasons like when the hound hacked those raiders to death or when Cersi nuked King's Landing but that last season just pissed me off
perfect username
season 6 has a better ending....dany sailing for westeros!
I stopped at the end of season 6. Season 5 ending with Cersi killing half the city is a good dropoff point as well.
The ending to this show was so bad i forgot it even existed. Literally everyone i knew was always talking about this show... and then the last season happened, and everyone pretended the show never existed. They managed to remove it from everyones mind, which is an insane accomplishment when the show used to be good
It even killed the desire of rewatching it again, and/or recommending it to others.
The best joke I've heard is that the reason dragon melted down the Iron Throne was to make a ramp for Bran.
Chaos is a wheelchair ramp...
Hahhahahaha
Dayuuuuum.
Plus he wouldn't really need the iron throne, since....you know. He brought his own chair.
Best joke I heard was that the most ridiculous part of the final season was the idea that someone actually finished writing A Song of Ice and Fire.
Little Finger: Chaos is a ladder.
Bran: Wrong; it's a wheelchair accessible ramp.
nah it actually makes sense that chaos is a ladder, Bran can't cause chaos because he can't climb the ladder so if he's a king:
Adam Collins Wealie boi became king cause who is going to be king except the Psychic Computer brain. Who has pulled a Doctor Strange and looked at all possible outcomes and went with the one he became king. Cause a person who has seen all of human history can’t be anything else.
Beautiful comment
the IRON RAMP
Lmao!
What maddens me is that the story was always grounded in political truths: a ruler cannot be strong if succession is not assured, which is why Dany was targeted by assassins and Joffrey's illegitimacy mattered. Suddenly a Targaeryan with a legitimate claim on the throne can be banished on a promise not to come back and contest things and a king can be appointed who can never produce a dynasty - guaranteeing the civil war will start again when Bran dies. Nice one 👍
Yep...
Dude, same and well said. It's pointless and stupid to have a Stark on one throne and a Stark on the other. The point? Especially when one can't breed wtf... The best way to fix that would be to have the actual classic hero (Jon Snow) with the legitimate claim to the throne defeat the Night King, saving all mankind, and having the stealth assassin (Arya Stark) or the trusted hand (Tyrion) take out the mad queen in one of their clever fashions. This would leave Jon open to taking the reigns alongside his cousin Sansa, uniting the entire continent of wildings, northerners, and southern Targaryen loyalists. If the eunuch army got their panties in a twist, then Melisandre could have used Jon's kings blood to awaken one of the stone dragons on Dragonstone, easily wiping out the foreign threat. Uniting the Stark and Targaryen houses is what will bring stability and peace to the entire realm. Literally everyone but the "writers" knew this, but I guess subverting expectations gave them a bigger boner than writing a cohesive and satisfying story that dozens of people dedicated over a decade of their lives to create.
I’ve been reading up a lot on the Wars of the Roses… which GoT is kinda based on (dynastic wars due to crisis in succession). Problem for a TV show is its theme doesn’t conclude… the wheel never breaks! And the writers had no way of imagining a way out of that conundrum. Same with George M. should Dany rule? Why? Should jon? Why? The only conclusion to war is legacy. Which is why Return of the King ending was so boring.
@@theManishMuse 100% legacy. It made no sense for 2 Starks to rule the north and south, and the south to have an impotent king that couldn't produce heirs. That leads to warfare and why a Queen bearing sons was always so important. Daughters weren't ideal, but they could reign if all else failed and preserve peace. Jon and Dany would have been able to unite both the north and south with their bloodlines, but Jon and Sansa/Arya would have achieved the same result if Dany was destined to die. So many viable and interesting options but they went with Bran the Boring... -.-
@@intpleb4206 it doesn't even have to be clever. Jon is the male heir. He technically killed Dany who was a usurper since the rightful heir Jon was still alive. He broke no laws by killing her and should've immediately been crowned king.
The show actually went so bad, that no one talks about how good the first five seasons were. Its literally written itself out of existence.
I will always rep season 6 as battle of the bastards is top 3 tv episodes of all time
@@bentooley season 6 had some great moments and payoffs but it did start going downhill from there writing wise
I have a bunch of fond memories watching the show and it had a big impact on what I expect from a well written story.
But knowing that everything in the show is leading up to this.... I just can't bring myself to even consider re watching it and I don't feel much desire interacting with the rest of the associated media or discussions about it either.
It's definitely weird though, how seemingly an entire slice of my life has effectively been deleted. A real shame.
This. It was a huge hype, with merchandise, T-Shirts, fans discussing every episode - and then it just - disappeared. As if it never happened. The end destroyed the entire thing.
6 seasons*
The last season not only destroys the show's legacy, but it completely kills its rewatchability
Spot on. It’s actually heartbreaking 😢🤣
I had been downloading every episode right from the very first, but I watched the last season on HBO. Within days of the final episode, I deleted all my downloaded files and dumped the entire show. Completely un-watchable.
The only way to rewatch it is by stopping at the end of season 6 and pretending that the show was cancelled after that
@@voctur
yep. Season 7 is where it started going south. There were head-scratching plot choices there already.
@@darylwilliams7883 By the moment they said they were going to finish the show in just 13 episodes I knew it was going to be bad
The real tragedy of Jaime and Cersei is that if they stood a little to the right they would have been fine.
Wrong. They tried to dig their way out of several thousand tonnes of stone bricks, the tragedy is when they almost reached the top, they ran out of strength and died.
@@colonelburton8451 Indeed. They avoided all that blunt force crushing trauma and died of suffocation.
I love how the previous episode, the dungeon collapsed entirely. Every wall, archway and brick in the place fell like dominos. Next episode, like 10 bricks in an empty room.
I wondered why they didn’t just take shelter in balerions skull
*whisper voice* lil bits
What honestly boiled my skin was the fact that Jon is the true heir to the throne and NO ONE THOUGHT TO MENTION THIS AT THE END?! Then he’s banished to the Watch but just leaves? Then Bran is just supposed to bow to an unsullied prick who is the commander to a dead queen (meaning he literally has no say or purpose anymore) What the serious flying fuck
I know. I'll never forgive D&D for not making Jon king in the end. Literally his whole character arc just gets completely destroyed.
@@davidpanepento2998 I would have been ok with Jon not becoming king at the end if it made sense. Jon made it clear that he didn’t want to rule, so why not have him pass the crown off to someone he deems fit? Or maybe he accepts the crown to finish what Dany had originally started? I’ve listened to many other people give ideas on how the show should have ended that are light years beyond than what D&D pooped out.
@@MykaTheDevil Yes, Jon technically didn't have to become king, but it makes the most sense since he's the last true hair of the Targaryen line.
@@MykaTheDevil To be honest anybody other than Bran would've made sense.
He has plot armor, what should've actually happened is jon getting killed either by Dany's dragon, the unsullied or the dothraki
The worst part was the Danae and Cersi showdown. It was built up over 7 seasons and we were expecting some massive battle between the two. And then Cersi is...buried by rubble. What an anticlimax.
Seriously. Pisses me off
And in Season 8, they never have a conversation and only staring at each other. Even Sansa out of people have a conversation with her and even own Daenerys by asking her "What about The North?" When she's finally conquer Westeros. The only time they talked was on the end of Season 7 in Dragonpit andddd that's it!
"An anticlimax" is how I would describe everything in the whole season
I watched Mauler's season 8 videos recently and he brought up a question I hadn't thought of - what exactly made Dany stop attacking? The troops/city had already surrendered, Cersei was killed by coincidence with no way of Dany knowing about it, was it just an actual kill count she was after?
I've had breakups that hurt less than this shows final season
But GOT has rarely ever went the way the audience thought it would. The Red Wedding, The Viper and the Mountain duel for example. Cerci getting a reasonably tame death and Deaneries turning out to be a bit of a mad Targaryen was about as Game of Thrones-y as you an get in terms of subverted expectations. I wasn’t that disappointed to be honest.
Davos telling a group of warrior-eunuchs to settle down and start families is literally the dumbest thing I have experienced on TV.
Well, that was really a perfect example of D&D writing.
Not really, they reproduce by mitosis which was established after the battle of Winterfell, just like the Dothraki who can also breed the normal way.
@@MoffatLee Since all of them are men what way was that exactly? :D
Their descendants would just be more copies of the current Unsullied. Those fuckers reproduce themselves faster than cancer
@@Lukkuriddari i think its cloning. Dark magic witches.
After watching everyone get massacred and burnt to a crisp
Arya: "I know a killer when I see one"
Thanks Sherlock
Arya walks into the crime scene with dead bodies strewn everywhere. “I KnOw A kIlLeR wHEn aH sEe wUn” Gee ya think so Arya?
HAHAHA! Yeahhh that one one of the +/- 10 facepalm moments in the finale.
Apparently I missed Davos telling the Unsullied to settle down and START FAMILIES, but there still were plenty more.
The writing of D&D. These twats got a Star Wars trilogy based on the writing of GRRM. Disney CEO Bob Iger said he hasn't been paying attention to GoT the last few seasons lol. I mean WTF? Do resumes mean anything anymore? Lets hire some guys to handle one of the most popular stories of all time so lets not look into their previous work or how well it was received. Unbelievable.
@@eternalreign2313 You'd think after Rian (I'm gonna fuck up star wars for everyone) Johnson they'd take more care. This really worries me after seeing GoT season 8.
And it's still not in the top ten dumbest moments of the season. Maybe not even top 50. Did children write this season seriously?
Remember, "A Dance with Dragons" was published in 2011. We are now 12 years later and "The Winds of Winter" is still in the works, with the final book "A Dream of Spring" clearly not coming out this century.
Worst case scenario is George R.R Martin is gonna die before even finishing the last 2 books and going on dementia.
@@margarethmichelina5146well they can also ruin it.
I doubt Winds or Dream will every be released, sadly.
"Danny won't rest until they've liberated the entire world from the cruelty of being alive"
Honestly what the hell was her goal here
just turned her in to a world domination cartoon villain .she came to Westeros to break wheel meaning stop the power struggle cycling over and over again then they made her want everyone to kneel and shit like wtf she never even asked slave masters to kneel .
They were trying to play the angle of her being a Targaryen and inheriting the "mad gene". It's just that nothing really indicated at her being THIS mad. She was cruel towards the end, sure, but not this batshit insane where she suddenly decides to torch innocent people and the city she wants to conquer and rule. What was she going to do with the throne and the city afterwards? It's been razed to the ground. It makes zero sense.
@@sleepysleeper3485Generally "mad" people don't make sense. It's kinda implied.
@@sleepysleeper3485 If she’s gone “mad” she doesn’t have to make sense, her burning down Kings Landing made as much sense to her as it did to her father. It was also foreshadowed all the way back in season 2 that she was going to destroy Kings Landing in the house of the undying, you literally see the Throne room destroyed. So her going mad and burning them all was always going to happen it’s just that the writers didn’t allow proper build up to it
@@josephstalin2606 give me a break. It was horrible writing. Dany went “mad” and killed people for absolutely no reason. If she didn’t value human life at all, why did she care so much about freeing the slaves? Her entire story makes no sense. D&D are the worst writers in human history.
Daenerys: "I'm gonna break the Wheel"
Bran: Becomes King and adds two more.
Three. His is a 3 wheeler.
nipi tiri Yes. That's why he's adding two to the one that exists.
Ridin’ spinners
"Dey see me rollen, dey haten..."
Ayra goes west,
Dragon goes east,
John goes north,
The show goes south.
opollo underrated comment 😏
Did you have fun stealing that comment?
indeed, must be T-shirts with that Legend anywhere
They should have hired you to write the last season's script.
That's better writing than the entire last season.
Having not read the books I could still tell when they ran out of the author's source material. It was so obvious. It just took a turn and you knew that something was missing and it was not good. Unbelieveable that they managed to ruin it so completely.
The sad thing is that they didn’t run out of source material. They stopped adapting it after season 4. Book 4 and five never got to screen and they are both thick fuckers with plenty of stuff going on. With only these two they could have made another two or even three seasons giving the author the time to finish his damned book, and if he still hasn’t then just use the shit ton of sample chapters he released for yet another season. But they were like « nah we’re smarter than him we’ll figure it out »
It was actually impressive what the writers actually did. They created the most amazing TV show to exist, they may not even be able to make one that is better.
And then they destroyed it in an also insanely amazing way that they destroyed its legacy and memory with it. There are very few shows or films that have ever self-destructed so amazingly well.
They destroyed too well, I think. My theory is that there was some kind of miff between D&D and George Martin.
They did not create anything they bought someone else's intellectual property and turned it into a TV show. It's like me making a mod for Skyrim to turn into a multiplayer game and then saying I created the best video game in existence.
@@MrApostolis78 let's just say that season 6 onwards is there own abomination
Best show ever? Yikes. I take it you haven’t seen Breaking Bad... 5 seasons with a fantastic final season and a perfect final episode.
@@acpmc76that’s possible. He dipped off of writing for the show after they refused to include Lady Stoneheart
Things that doesn't matter:
-John's lineage
-Jaime's arc
-Arya's shapeshifting skills
-Bran warging abilities
-Prince that was promised
-Azor Ahai
-Lord of Light
-horse at the end of episode 5
-plot
Littlefingers plotting
Nightking
Faith of rhlor
The Dorne plotline
Cersei’s prophecy
That horse was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen. It was funny in a similar fashion to when Walter found out skylar took all the money from the crawl space
Bucz The Entire White Walker storyline
Essos
Meereen
Bravos
Many faced god
Lord of light
Iron bank
Aryas nymeria dreams
Golden company
Weapon names and significance
Crazy how the end of this series was so goddamn bad that it retroactively removed all of its influence from the cultural conversation
I'm starting to think that Tiger King had more cultural relevance than Game Of Thrones
Seriously, the only times I ever hear Game of Thrones mentioned anymore, it's always just referencing how bad the last season was.
Quite the accomplishment by D&D
And it gonna cost HBO BILLIONS meanwhile they could of just fired dumb and dumber after season 5 and made 7 more seasons and made more BILLIONS, I swear people are not thinking.
Yea 'cause it went all Nazi.
Bran being the 3 eyed raven
The night king
John being a Targaryen
Arya
All plot points that meant absolutely nothing in the end.
It was such a bland final, anti-climactic. Sean Bean must've been relieved to have his character killed in the 1st season.
He tried to take the ring from frodo. Eff him.
@@adamsteele6148 Different movie (franchise). Different character 🙄.
So glad Charles Dance got out of the series before it goes really bad
Sean Bean died? I didn't see that coming!
@@kitty6720 ...it's a joke. Obviously. I'm afraid you're dim.
Notice how Arya, Sansa and Bran were all in King’s Landing at the same time? Apparently ‘there must always be a Stark in Winterfell’ is no longer a thing either
Ehh, who cares. We have focking Bran do deal with everything. Cuz he is literally god. He just didnt choose to say anyhting. YUR MAH QUEEN
@@CODA96 He probably warged into some poor person's body and used him as a remote controlled puppet in Winterfell while he was half paying attention to what was being said in front of him.
That could explain the fact that he first said that he didn't want the throne and then said that this was what he had been working towards to all this time.
They kinda forgot
happened in season two aswell so what
@@MarcelNL
Exactly Marcel. Bran also warged into Ned Stark and let him be killed on purpose. He also warged into Walder Frey and executed his brother and mother.
He also warged into Dany AND her Dragon at the same time: Dany never wanted to be Queen of Ashes, but Bran made her do it!
And at the end, Bran warged into Jon and he killed Dany, it was just supposed to look like bad storywriting.
Proof me wrong, i can explain ANYTHING with ''Bran did it''.
Brienne closing the book before the ink was dry was a metaphor for the entire season
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Think that one up yourself clever twat.
Afshin The Great yeah, u stole that.
This was my joke under another video! I DEMAND JUSTICE!
So pathetic stealing someone else's comment. Shame
All these people freaking out like every joke on the internet isn't stolen and reused a million times. I'll do you guys one better. I made this joke while watching the episode when it first aired. Get on my level.
I can never forgive how they turned Tyrion, one of the most interesting, clever and witty characters into a whatever he was by the end of GoT. Its the only purpose he was there was because he was a fan favorite and needed to be on the screen for that purpose only. He was basically turned into an empty uniform that said whatever was needed for whatever shitty plot point they were trying to do in a specific episode
At season three:
Friend: Do you watch GoT? It's amazing.
Me: Nah, I'm not into modern story telling.
Friend: This is different, it's so good, you'll like it.
At season seven:
*Crickets*
After ending:
Me: So should I watch GoT?
Friend: *Grumbles*
They kept around just to deliver the who has a better story than bran line. They thought the Tyrion fan base would just accept that line cuz he delivered it, I think they knew if he didn't deliver it literally NO ONE would have bought. I mean not many did buy it....
@@Ackalan seasons 1-4 were good, then they ran out of the book material and it all went to shit, not to mention they were left unsupervised by GRRM
Also BTW if you're 'not into modern storytelling' what are you even doing on the channel that's all about it? You should probably be on the channel about Shakespearean plays or something
Tyrion sucked in the last season. Stupid actions, idiotic lines...i didn't love her as successfully. Wtf does that mean? Who wrote this sh!t?
He was my favorite character. Absolutely pissed all over his character by the end. He became predictable and in many ways unpredictable for all the wrong reasons. His cleverness that kept him alive was completely destroyed as his decision making was terrible. I'm surprised he wasn't killed off as every choice he made was wrong.
The story of the rise and fall of GoT is like a Greek tragedy. It was at one point the most fucking incredible show to have existed, that had the biggest fanbase in the world who were obsessed with endless theories about how it would end. Wherever you went, GoT would come up in conversation as casually as football. It was a phenomenon, lightning in a bottle. It was arguably the biggest pop culture touchstone of the 2010`s.
And then season 8 happened.
In just a handful of episodes they managed to completely crumble the towering monolith they had built. GoT was now a joke, and will forever be remembered as thus. It was so bad it made us question if the show was ever really good from the get go. And if was all because of the staggering hubris of the show's creators and the laziness of the original author.
Even if it had stuck the landing in a bumpy way, the show still would have been remembered as an amazing achievement. But they didn't so much land, as more like crash to earth and torch the entire runway.
Thus it will remain as a cautionary tale to all those who want to know how not to finish a series.
The joke's on us. We have been trolled by George R.R. Martin and he even told us so.
Season 7 was also bad. If i rewach GoT, I'll stop at season 6
This isnt Georges fault, it is D&D's fault. They ran out of source material and just ripped this show apart
The show will still be legendary regardless
@@markozerdin9784season 7 wasn’t that bad
This is just a damn shame......such a wonderful story reduced to nothing more than an expensive daytime soap opera. Terribly sad
This is exactly what I said to my wife. It was like watching EastEnders set in westeros. They even cut an argument half way through, pure soap classic. FFS!
Bran : "I can never be lord of anything."
Tyrion : "What about being the King?"
Bran : "Where do I sign?"
He played you apparently 😂
He knew he'd be offered becoming King. He's just sitting pretty.
And let's imagine what happens when Bran gets old and dies with no heir. Does he just appoint who he want to succeed him?
He lied that he don't want to be lord of anything, that is a good reason to not let him be the king xD, yet fake Tyrion logic
@@kene301187 So basically he steals my plan for winning battle royals of just chill until every is dead or out of ammo and hitpoints, then I just swoop in for the win when no one is expecting it.
Season 8 was probably the most disappointing thing I've ever been through in my life. Just years of loving the show, reading the books, obsessing over it, just to end like shit.
How can this actually happen? The show is based on the books of an author. Did the show extend beyond the stories in the books? And if so, did the author not have creative control over what came after for some weird reason? He is/was a cash cow. How would this happen? Did he himself start to not care anymore and give shitty input?
@@Dowlphin Yes, the show extended beyond the books. I think after season six? And that's when it became garbage. I don't know how GRRM allowed what happened in the shows after that point. My hypothesis is that he wanted to retain interest in his final book (Winds of Winter, still in the process of being written to this day!) and so he let the show go off in whatever direction so that his own plot points and arcs would still be worth reading; people would be a lot less interested in reading the book if the show already spoiled everything. Maybe he even knew just how bad the writing for the final two seasons was and let it happen because now everyone who was dissatisfied with the show will be lining up to throw money at him so that the book can wash the bad taste out of their mouths!
@@Palomino0813 That seems to make sense. Although maybe a sincere lack of writing motivation is the driving force. Maybe the show producers wanted to continue and he couldn't keep up. And I could even imagine this connection being relevant. Writing for stupid modern Hollywood can be a downer.
@@Dowlphin That, as well. I know other writers have had issues because the studio they write for has different ideas for how they want the show to go, and both parties tug on it until it just rips apart in the middle.
Now I know how my mother feels
"And Bran's like 'Yeah, whatever, I've got more prehistoric wheelchairs to browse.' " It seriously took me almost a full minute to stop laughing. 😂 Also, awesome Terry Funk reference!
Dany kinda forgot she liked children.
Tyrion kinda forgot he was smart.
Jaime kinda fogot he cared about the innocent.
Varys kinda forgot he was the scheming spider.
The ruins of kings landing kinda forgot they were reduced to rubble.
The dothraki kinda forgot they were wiped out.
Arya kinda forgot she was an assassin.
Grey worm kinda forgot Jon killed his queen.
Drogon kinda forgot Jon killed his mother.
The lords kinda forgot Jon saved Westeros.
Jaime kinda forgot he was stabbed multiple times.
Gilly kinda forgot she saw the dagger in the book.
Bran kinda forgot there was no night's watch anymore.
The wildlings kinda forgot to leave for the north when they said they would.
The lords kinda forgot Jon was the true heir to the throne.
Everyone kinda forgot the dothraki.
Everyone kinda forgot there was always supposed to be a Stark in Winterfell.
Everyone kinda forgot about the prophecies.
Some suggestions from the comments and more of my own:
The Iron Bank kinda forgot about their loan.
The Faceless Men kinda forgot they wanted Arya dead.
The Golden Company kinda forgot how to fight.
Bran kinda forgot he had no power in the south.
Bran kinda forgot he didn't want to rule.
Little Finger kinda forgot he was sly.
The woman in Winterfell Little Finger paid kinda forgot what she was being paid for.
Sansa kinda forgot Brynden Tully was a good guy.
The Iron Men kinda forgot they wanted independency.
Everyone kinda forgot about Dorne.
The scorpions kinda forgot about bullet drop.
Dany kinda forgot Jorah asked her to put faith into Tyrion.
Jon kinda forgot to speak.
Dany kinda forgot about her dad.
Cersei's soldiers kinda forgot to shoot the scorpions.
Gregor Clegane kinda forgot to listen to Cersei and Qyburn.
Qyburn kinda forgot to make wildfire.
The wights kinda forgot to kill major characters.
This is the best summary of the flaws so far.
Please add the east in this, Iron bank, Golden company and Faceless men were just.....gone
Bran kinda forgot he was busy doing 3 eyed raven work?
Sagadi! The BEST Summary (after the CZcamsr)! Excellent 🤣🤣🤣
@@SammyVOfficial Can someone explain me the Gilly bit?
"Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?" Umm... literally everyone who has ever appeared in GoT, including Ed Sheeran.
What about the story of John fucking snow started from nothing never knew his parents rose to the top killed then brought back to life to become the king of the 7 kingdoms but noooo BRAN THE FUCKING BROKEN WHOS MIND IS ELSE WHERE AND DOESNT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING....
RIP this show man 😫
The fookin legend of Gin Alley had a better story than Bran did...
Exactly!
@@evoak8575 Are you saying they should have proposed to the Unsullied holding the city and Jon captive,
that Jon should be the person who will decide how Jon is punished?
I've never before wished a show I loved had been cancelled before it's final season.
There was a question that was ask in the pick of game of thrones success …
“Is there something Lord of the rings has, that game of thrones doesn’t?”.
Things that it had:
-Awesome fight scenes.
-Gore.
-Drama.
-Sex.
- Magic.
- Well written characters.
-Dragons.
- Giants.
-Zombies.
-Culture.
-STAKES.
The One thing that GOT didn’t have, that LOTR had.
A well done ending.
YOU AHR MUH KWEEN, YOUL OLWEEZ BE MUH KWEEN
I DON WUNNIT
I LUV HAA
I KANT KOUNT TO TWENTEEE
MUH QUEEN!
lightning muh kween
Break the wheel, two more shall take it's place
~ King Bran
Hahah, this made me laugh out loud 😂 👍
It took me a minute, but I finally got it..
His chair actually has 3 wheels, so even more bang for your buck.
Hail hydra
@Evil Doughboy Rian Johnson would be so proud. They did not simply Subvert Expectations, but they Subverted the entire story
It seems unbelievable that Greyworm and the Unsullied, would just blindly follow Dany after her actions in season 8. I get that they are loyal to her because she freed them. But they went on to follow her because she was good. After she goes crazy, you'd have thought her army would still have the same mental state as before
"Just following orders" has gotten a lot of people killed.
I haven’t heard anyone mention the second to last episode in which Dany INEXPLICABLY decides to flip a complete 180 and massacre thousands of innocent people. The final episode was irrelevant at that point because the credibility of the characters was already erased.
I binged this whole series in the past two weeks and I was honestly so confused as to why she did that?? Like seeing her character from season one to 8 change so abruptly was like wth???
they ruined her@@alexandraluckett2070
GoT became a high budget CW show.
CW?
I think it's still better than whatever they've got planned for Batwoman
@@scarlet__eye9489 a channel on TV that's home to a lot of superhero shows like Arrow, The Flash and Black Lightning
Yes.
@@fairlyliterary4771 cheers buddy!
"I can't believe Dany sailing to Westeros was the final scene of GoT.
So sad that HBO decided to cancel the show after only 6 seasons,
but atleast it ended on a high note."
Almost fixed it for us.
You're optimistic. This already went downhill since season 5 imo
This will be true for me. I've got 1-6 on bluray and wont ever buy 7 or 8. I'm planning to write a conclusion with a friend so I can just reject this d&d pos fanfiction.
@@RJ-cq8dd for me its 1 through 4 and I'll watch 5 just for Cersei killing those sparrow fucks. I bought the books cus of the shitty end so I hope I like those.
The death of Stannis was the Death of the show. Only good scene after that was Battle of Bastards.
"Gaaah!"
"What's wrong, Ned? Bad dream?"
"Yeah. Sorry, Catelyn. Anyway, I'm going to tell Robert no thanks."
D&D wanted to give everyone a happy ending, totally forgetting that A Song Of Ice And Fire was never about happy endings. It was about consequences, for one. Remember Ed Stark and how he was loved and seemingly did everything right and by the book (of honor)? Guess what, that's not how the game of throne works, and he died for it. Everyone who made a mistake in the game of thrones was punished for it. And here we have season 8, where everyone can make the most dumb mistakes and not only get away with it, but rewarded for it. D&D really forgot what made the books and the early seasons of the show great. They valued fan service and nice visuals over great story telling. I can' t believe how dissapointed I still am about this. They had gold, but turned it into shit
The last episode felt like what happens when you're invested in writing an interesting essay and you suddenly realize the time is almost running out so you shove a bunch of mumbo jumbo to avoid handing in a hanging story
Sansa: and the north will be an independent kingdom!
Bran: (nods)
All other kingdoms: so...can we be independent?
Bran: (shakes head)
Ffs Sansa... North doesn't recognize you as a king but wants to be independent. THAT'S FOOKING BRAN WHO'S NED STARK'S ONLY LIVING SON! Fook off show
Dorne: "Wait, she can do that?? I didn't know we can do that... we can do that??
perun1nj she can’t do that! Shoot her....or... something
@@jamesa7147 we can't. We lost all scorpions and we somehow forgot for what bows and crossbows are... They are for cleaning the shit house, right?
All Jon would have to do is show up in Winterfell and he would be King with Sansa getting the boot
I guess the Wildlings all forgot that they had been granted lands to the south of the wall and that they had been fighting for generations to get south of the wall specifically to acquire those lands so they didn't have to keep scraping a miserable living from the frozen rocks of a barren tundra. I guess they all came down with that amnesia bug that seems to have been going around in season 8.
Damn lol I completely forgot about that story arc. The main reason they joined the fight was to escape the North. Only to go right back
You're right I was thinking the same thing when I saw the wildlings traveling back from where they fought so hard to leave from.
It's like you expect the people that write four out of six of the last episodes to give a fuck about it? What's wrong with you? Don't you know who you're dealing with?
Yep. The Wildlings were the Mongols. The Wall in GoT is the Great Wall, ostensibly to keep out Mongol warriors, but actually to keep out Mongol trade and keep Mongols out of China. What was a deeply meaningful story resonant with actual human history and complexity becomes a stupid Hollywood Western trope. "Go North young man!" Just stupid.
The Wildlings are the Picts (or Scots). That is Hadrian's Wall not the Great Wall of China (pretty sure GRR said something along those lines at one point). Hadrian's Wall was the wall at the end of the world. The Dothraki are sort of the Mongols, though Mongol cavalry were much heavier armoured and had more archers.
What I had always wondered: how did they know that Dany is dead? Jon killed her and no one was there, Drogon took her body, so how did they know?
Jon likely confessed, like he did to killing Mance in a room full of wildlings. He's not one to lie or bs about anything
Dude probably blabbed his mouth the second he saw someone, for some reason Jon Snow doesn't understand the concept of keeping a secret or just shutting up about literally anything. It's the same reason he just had to tell Cersei he bent the knee to Daenerys when it would guarantee Cersei wouldn't help them. The writers just made him stupid because, well why not?
@@natb9919to be real, that's how all the Stark men were; to fuckin' honest. Talk too damn much. Revelling plans to your enemies and thinking sh!t sweet afterwards.
Somehow, the dothraki returned.
The real debate is, which multi-season major plot point amounted to less?
a) Bran being the three eyed raven
b) Jon being Aegon Targaryan
The night king ?
Bran being the Three Eyes Targaryen
I would also add (though, not to the same degree):
c) Arya being a faceless assassin.
And who th fook is azor ahai?
C) The fact that 10 minutes into the series' pilot established the white walkers as a credible and ominous threat not to be tied up in a single episode by a character that had no emotional attachment to the arc.
The problem with writing smart characters is that you yourself have to be smart.
Well… there goes my writing career
At least you have the advantage of time to think about what the character would just immediately do.
it's not that hard. just imagine how a character would react in real life situations. You need to read some elementary things about logic and common sense and you are set.
Just like Christopher Nolan who needs to use science in every of his movies and makes everyone confused of what the fuck is going on.
"What would an evil mastermind who relies entirely on depection do when the lord looks him square in the face and quotes his own evil motto at him, making it obvious that the jig is up?"
"Uuhmm... stick around and keep trying?"
One thing was missing from this review: the fact that a huge fucking dragon is now roaming the world and the small council says (in your words) "Nah, it'll be fine". Amazing stuff. Doesn't change the fact that you're absolutely right; it's been nearly four years and how GoT was treated in the end still breaks my heart.
I think the worst possible thing that was left was the motive of the night King, the importance of Bran and their connection. I was really hoping to see some massive reveal about Bran being the night king or something. Just a waste of a show, still upsetting to think about the last 3 seasons
I had no emotional attachment / reaction to what happened in this episode.....
I stopped watching after episode 3. I feel nothing but anger and disappointment now..
dew ok yeah lol was watching n my girlfriend freaked out n I was like, cmon you knew it was coming especially when dani died
I tried, i really tried hard
I've realized that the only feeling this and the previous few episodes managed to induce in me was cringe.
I gave up watching about 1/2 way through and my husband summarized it for me afterwards.
ETA: Just for reference, I've been loyally watching since S1E1 aired, but God...
Game of thrones didn't die it was MURDERED.
LastMan Standing honestly
I feel used....
Today on television writers essentials lesson book
It's so embarrassingly fucking retarded that it had to be intentional.
@@CMCAdvanced beat me to it. -brought to you by admiral of the intellectual viewership community, tonald loke
It makes me so sad how this show tanked itself. I LOVED this show and it was heartbreaking watching it crash and burn in such spectacular fashion. I can normally laugh off a shit ending to a show but for some reason this one just pisses me off. I’m no screenwriter but I can think of many ways they could’ve done this and all of them are better than what we got. Honestly if they announced they’re retconning S8 and doing it again I’d be fine with that. I’d happily bury this season and never return to it again. Jon should’ve been the king.
The Battle at Winterfell was what really made me realize Dan & Dan werent gonna stick the landing . Sending the majorly out numbered Dothraki right at the Night King was just stupid and as their Fire swords went out so did my Hopes of a good Finally !!!
Breaker of legs, defender of the ramps, long may he roll.
Joshua Perry 😂😂😂
They see me rollin, they hatin
Chaos is a ramp
The Chair That Was Promised.
With no future heirs.
Epic fail. Historically will go down as the worst finale ever
Naw, it'll be fine
*Neil Druckman, Director of The Last of Us 2:* _"Oh, is that what you think?"_
The finale of Star Trek Enterprise was a huge slap in the face too.
UGH.
@@John-X you're an idiot.
Mass Effect 3
STILL rewatching this after 4 years. The Mauler poke at 13:30 or so still gets me.
Now that it's been a couple years, what's interesting is how thoroughly AGoT has been dropped from pop culture. The actors show up in other media but the show itself just vanished. There's a sense that GRRM won't ever finish the series, may not even finish the next book. Hollywood still has big plans for spinoffs, prequels, etc. but I feel like the viewing public is just done with it. That's a hell of a finale, that it was bad enough to destroy the whole run of the series.
Probably erased a few hundred millions in merchandise profits as well.
@@LemuriaGames Exactly. Perhaps it explains why D&D suddenly decided to drop out of taking over Star Wars, after having rushed AGoT's ending just to start on it. OTOH, the new prequel, House of the Dragon, is excellent. It started out doing good but not great in the ratings, and then viewership steadily increased as word got around.
As any Dungeon Master will tell you; the hardest thing to do is to write a character who is more intelligent than you are.
My favorite line! Thanks...I needed that.
@Christopher Marlowe several people wrote his character. Thus he has intelligence equal to that of many people added together. Truly a genius.
My Dad accused me of being a homosexual.
Playing as a character who's more intelligent that you are is also pretty hard. I mean, sure, you can just go "Intelligence check!" at every occasion, but that sounds a bit cheap.
#comicsgate
What was the point of Arya's faceless powers if she didn't use them once this season? Why was Jon a Targaryen if it made no difference in the plot? Why did Drogon think a chair killed Dany?
@@kurdia100 That seems to be the sort of symbolism they wanted to convey, but er, when did dragons become capable of making such sophisticated philosophical distinctions? They have only ever proved themselves capable of understanding a single word. They are intelligent creatures, but the idea that Drogon somehow intuits that the desire for power (the Iron Throne) is more responsible for the death of his mother than the guy he just watched stab her to death, is, for want of a better word, fucktarded
@@kurdia100 that's what I thought at that moment. Drogon can't kill John because he knows he is a targaryen. But we will never know.
Jon being a Targaryen really just helped Bran.
There's a dagger in her chest. The chair is pointy.
Dragon logic.
There, I figured it out.
@@kurdia100 Him being a Targaryen is not a very good explanation as to why the dragon didn't kill him. Targaryans fought Targaryans before in succession wars. An example is a civil war known as "the dance of the dragons" between Rhaenyra and her brother Aegon II. It all ended with Rhaenyra being captured and Aegon feeding her to his dragon while forcing her son to watch. I guess you could argue that Drogon "knows" Jon. But he hasn't really known him for that long so it's a pretty lame excuse to me. It seemed like the writers just wanted to have that cool scene because of SiiiMboLisM so they put it in there without thinking too much about it.
Went from “it doesn’t matter whose skeleton sits on the iron throne” to “the iron throne was always the main plot.” I cannot believe the White Walkers got tossed aside.
I blame it on the showrunners for committing to 73 episodes. They were too eager to move onto their next success, and said like a metronome, "73 hours is all we need", when in reality its clear they needed much more time to finish it off and it showed.
A year later and I cannot even look at the excellent earlier seasons fondly. The season ruined the show for me.
I don´t remember Dany´s corps being taken by the dragon. I probably didn´t watch the whole episode, just skiped it
@@xshadionytpx7891 Don't get me started how Anakin and Luke's story were pissed on by Disney. I watched Forces Awakens and all my friends gave me shit because I thought it was weak lol. It makes me mad because there are better stories in the expanded universe and video games then that shit show.
Leon Robinson new or not its still wrong and disgusting
Mission accomplished then.
For real.
Watching it again, is like eating the most amazing of meals, knowing you're going to shit your life out when you're done
Tragic...I've heard no talk of GOT since it ended. Nobody talking of how they miss it, or wishing they'd bring it back. Before the eighth season, i often spoke of buying the complete series once it ended to rewatch over and over. Now i no longer want to as the last season destroyed the series. Knowing how stupid and lame it all ended killed all the passion to reinvest my time in a worthless cause. R.I.P GOT.
I feel the same way. I used to live for GOT. The ringtone on my cell is even the GOT theme. But once the series ended, I just didn't give a shit about it anymore.
I feel the same. It wasnt just bad, it forgot about arya's shapshifting or brans ability to see everything therfore making the build up pointless.
That's truly the greatest tragedy of all. They didn't just kill the show. They retroactively ereased everything good about it from existence.
They made sure that what arguably used to be, and should have been the greatest TV show of all time will be remembered as nothing more than a bitter disappointment, and in a few years, even that will have been forgotten. It will become nothing more than another entry in the long list of dead franchises that we all wasted our time on.
Thinking about this SHOULD make me furious, but the sad thing is that I don't even care enough anymore to laugh about it. I'm just done.
Totally agree, I lived for every new season, watched every episode multiple times waiting for the following week, watched other people’s reaction vids to kill time, bought every blue ray and now it all seems so stupid after the last two seasons totally killed the years I invested.
My friends' honest words about GoT: "We need to find another show to watch."
That's how much it meant to them, and they'd been trying to convince me to watch it for years.
My favorite easter egg is the Unsullied going to Noth. If you aren't from Noth there is this butterfly there that basically kills you if you don't possess like... Noth antibodies or something? Either way. They will all die when they land and 'viist'. It's a pretty baller move from Missandei not to tell Grey Worm and the other Unsullied about this super important detail about where she comes from.
I love how the Ghost reappearance was literally to shut Mauler up. The fandom yeah, but mostly Mauler 🤣
Sloppy, lazy, and awful...perfect description of Hollywood.
Forgot pedos
you can add tasteless and ignorant.
@mule vpn oy vey, it was literally unuddahsh0@h
James so like.. all of Hollywood?
Seemed to like it the first 4 or so seasons
So Jon being a Targaryian that was built up for ages actually means NOTHING. Bran being the 3 eyed raven actual meant NOTHING. So much wasted. I just pray the books if they ever get written actually makes this make sense.
digwillhachi who car S about the books? GRRM let the whole series get out of control....
Jon should have been King and Bran should have been his Hand/advisor
i just came here after 3 yrs to say bran is the most evil person in the show he saw the future and let all those ppl die so he can become king 🤮 also jon is still a bastard .raegar was married to elia martell .thats why he secretly married Lilyanna just to fool her
TV and movies are becoming unwatchable, and GOT is a perfect exemplar of why. You NEED a well written story with consistent and compelling characters. Flashy effects won't fix a bad script.
Every time I watch this last episode I get soooooooo freaking angry for Jon. What the actual f. They mulliganed almost every story arc to finish this show in such an unsatisfying way. Literally tear up for how bad it makes me feel.
"liberated the entire world from the cruelty of being alive."
“We destroyed the hamlet in order to save it.”
Me: hey Thanos, someone took your idea!
@@54markl From communism?
Wish someone would do that to me.
😂👍I loved it too
D&D kinda forgot that Jon came back to life for a purpose.
They would forgoth that they have fingers if they wherent using them to hold their credit cards.
They did jon dirty
Bruhhhhhh
Yeah instead he just gets sentenced to hangout with his friends up north. And if Greyworm and all of Dany's men are leaving westeros, why do the other kingdoms agree to punish Jon and Tyrion
@@spawncampe Better yet, why is Tyrion punished because he was the Queen’s hand, but the Queen’s literal ARMY responsible for single-handedly slaughtering countless of innocents after she went mad not given any type of punishment? Tyrion is imprisoned, but these guys are somehow still free to make demands?
The fact the two producers still have jobs is proof positive about how corrupt the entertainment industry is. Producing bad but fun shit (looking at you Mike Bay) is one thing, but these two LITERALLY destroyed the final season so badly that it went back in time and nuked all 7 prior seasons, and, it wouldn't be a stretch to think that it will fundamentally impact the sales of George RR Martin's final book when released.
Ryan Johnson brought me here
Actually the 2 last Transformers movies also nuked the first Transformers.
The 'final books' are never being released. He wrote himself into such an awful corner. While shoving most of the characters into a building and blowing them all up was hamfisted, it was probably the best of a range of bad options. However, that doesn't fix others; like how Brienne was literally being eaten at the end of her last chapter.
Can't square that with the show.
It's crazy how GoT has been completely forgotten. The last season was such a dumpster fire, that nobody even talks about GoT any more, unless it's to mock how disastrously it ended. A show that was universally praised, that was such a hype, that everyone was talking about and that was considered great by many critics... just cast down to the forgotten abyss because these idiot writers fucked it all up.
Daenerys burning down Kings Landing is extremely symbolic. Daenerys symbolizes D&D, and Kings Landing symbolizes the show. And the innocent people of Kings Landing are the fans.
Good job D&D. Dumpster fire doesn't even begin to describe this. D&D didn't even try with season 8. Didn't even try.
Drogon burning the iron throne symbolises the fans burning D&D.
Dont forget, they also took an extra year, to not even try.
The guy killing main characters as a living could find better than destroying the throne?
@@Fabi_87 Look, I understand the appeal of looking to the books for a satisfying end to an amazing saga, but let's get real here. Martin is going to die of a massive heart attack before he finishes the next book, let alone two of them. I mean, he's always written slowly but this absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure if he's simply lost his passion or if he is just incapable of writing a good ending to a book series that is visibly struggling under it's own weight. Either way, he's well into his seventies and weighs as much as a Mini Cooper so I can't imagine a reality where he lives long enough to complete his work. Not when he's currently working at a pace of roughly a decade per book.
@@bredincaptivity4692 They'll hire someone to finish them for him, if he leaves enough notes/instructions on what he was going to do.
They did it with Branden Sanderson for The Wheel of Time. They might do it again.
"Why are you wasting time telling us shite we already know." That's how I felt for about 45min of the episode.
Sort of like watching this review lol
@DrTheKay Yeah i got banned from the GoT reddit years ago for telling them how bad s5 sucked. Wonder how they feel now.
That first bit with Tyrion searching in the rubble - there's no conflict, nothing to provide drama. We're just watching him act. Then later when we get that extreme closeup of his face - it just seemed to never end. I was checking my watch, half unsure if the video was just paused.
@@firebush1343 I actually quit watching in season 5, but came back and finished for the release of season 8. So personally my expectations were not high, but even so seasons 7 and 8 were particularly sub-par.
@@WalterLiddy Lol, we had actually paused the video at that point (toilet break or some other thing more interesting than the show) and when we sat down again, after some time my wife said, impatiently, "play it then"; "it IS playing I said" as the imp slowly moved an eye. "Oh", she said...
"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Could've been on par with the lore depth of Breaking Bad and Star Wars, but they just haaad to wreck the show in the final season. An apocalyptic waste. The next generation of showwriters should strive to avoid this disaster
George RR Martin carried this show. As soon as he was out it went steeply downhill. Weiss and Benioff were incapable from the beginning. They were just lucky they had Martin
I whole-heartedly agree.
I mean the dude had a history writing books and for TV shows. So he atleast had a good idea of its ins/outs/pitfalls. That being said he should have never sold the rights until he was on his last book. He was naive to think they wouldn't catch up to his writing and blinded by the mountain of cash HBO dumped on his doorstep.
@@pokeman5000 Its to bad we don't get to see the final vision of his story played out on the screen. Maybe he thought he'd pull off a JK Rowling and finish the series while the books were being adapted.
I am of the Opinion that The Reason the Last 2 Seasons and the ending being Trash, we’re because the Last 2 books aren’t finished and there was no source Material to pull from.
I hate to Shit on the man, but you have had 10 years to finish that God damn book let alone his series so He is just as responsible for this show going down hill. I am also skeptical where or not the ending to the books will be worth a damn.
@@alexkeeton5624 yeah, he made a fantastic and complex story but looks like finishing it is too much of a challenge even for him
Tyrion was actually crying over how bad the writing had gotten.
Dinkledge was able to summon the tears just thinking about what this scene was doing to his legacy.
"I used to be the smartest one!"
method acting
It’s pretty obvious the caste hates the ending
That was probably the camera rolling between takes, and they got Dinklage crying over how badly they butchered his character and show.
This show ends at season 6, Jon’s parentage revealed and king of the north. Dany finally coming to Westeros with Tyrion and Varys. Cersei on the iron throne. Arya coming back to Westeros. That’s it. That’s the end. Brilliant cliff hanger
💯💯💯
My canon ending:
Jon Snow died at the wall. Danny comes to Westeros and conquers the entire nation at massive cost to herself. The night king invades while Bran desperately tries to reach Dany in time to warn her but is killed by bounty hunters hunting down anyone with the last name stark. Danny gets the thrown after losing two of her dragons to do it. The night king sweeps through the land like a plague and the I’ll prepared peoples of Westeros either die to his blade or they starve to death due to the lack of resources as they didn’t prepare for winter. Kingslanding comes under siege and Dany bravely defends the city. Fighting off a two front war between the hordes of white walkers and the starving citizens of Kingslanding who’ve begun to riot due to lack of food. The battle leads to a major collapse of law and order and Dany in desperation to save what lives she can blazes away with her dragon killing thousands while in a state of pure terror. She repels the invasion but kings landing is ablaze from the intense battle. The night king makes his way to the red keep as Dany desperately tries to force him back but must avoid his ice spears that have already wounded her dragon and has begun to take its toll. The night king reaches the iron and turns all of her servants including missandere into white walkers. Dany bursts through the walls on her dragon and burns the night king just as an ice spear pierced her dragons heart and kills him. The resulting death if the night king send a cold wave of ice and snow that quells the fires of Kingslanding as every white Walker vaporizes with him. Dany is left in the cold ruins as ash and snow fall, sitting on the throne alone. The kingdom a frozen wasteland and the last dragon now dead. Her lineage dies with her. Her subjects dead and dying and the prophecy has been fulfilled. She now rules over an ash filled kingdom alone. And the camera slowly pans out as she sits upon the throne in a daze before screaming in bitter rage as she’s lost everything. Cut to black. Credits.
That’s a fucking subversion for you. That would’ve fit the narrative and the entire point of Game of thrones. I literally just came up with this on whim. Yet it works way better than this garbage. Sign me up I’ll retcon this trash and give this series a proper ending. At least mine fits in with the prophecy of azure Hai and the ash throne.
The one positive of Season 8.
I found The Critical Drinker on CZcams.
Everything I wished for after season 1 came tr000
Silver linings!
@TooLateToTheStory yeah, but the outfit will still cost you your left leg.
The soundtrack was still good. That was the one upside for me.
If you like critical drinker you must like cinema sins also?
@@jeannettecampbell1402 that's like saying if you like RotJ you must like TLJ...
"So Jon returns to Castle Black and reunites with Ghost so Mauler can stop complaining about it."
Brilliant!
I don't get it :(
@@henriccarlsson9052 MauLer is another YT critic, and he was less than happy about Jon ditching Ghost. Look up "Game of Thrones: S08E04: An Unbridled Rage"
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He does talk about Ghost a lot, highly recommended.
I mean, Mauler was very angry about it.
Loved it
So embarrassing. Thanks for thourally explaining all of this horror. At least we have that to bring us some sanity after all that madness.
I remember that I resisted watching GoT until season 5 but after the Hardhome episode I got hooked... and my reason to resist it was knowing that RR Martin was nowhere near finishing his series of books, I knew the TV show would eventually catch the books and that tv writers are usually not very good at writing intelligent stuff, or else they will be book writers... so I kinda knew this was coming in the end and well, it didn't surprised me at all
I went in with expectations below zero and was still disappointed...
Perverted expectations.
Nloveru Freaking Wealie Boi
From the moment this episode ended, I could only think of one thing, your review.
Thank you for that.
The best part of this finale by far.
Yes, me too, although I'm also looking forward to Alt Shift X's review later, if he bothers. I'm not sure I would. What a 'FUCK YOU' this series turned out to be.
By far the worst thing about GoT messing up the ending is that it has ruined a pretty much one of a kind story. Nothing else comes close to the quality of GoT's many long running story threads and the insane payoffs that get set up over the course of almost the entire story. Now we've seen an ending that was probably very close to how GRRM might have planned, but it was executed in the worst possible way. Additionally, it seems very apparent that the show overtaking the books has played a huge role in GRRM's difficulties with finishing the books. So not only has the show ruined the ending that we probably would have gotten, it has most likely robbed us of any meaningful ending to this story whatsoever. And there will not be another GoT.
I rarely let a bad ending ruin the entire show for me. Many shows still maintain their status despite having a bad ending but in this case it just ruined everything. The final season was so bad that I wish I forgot all about the existence of this whole series.
Yeah dude, I totally expected Jamie or Cersei to cough and come back to life. THAT'S how low my expectations had got.
lol I was like "didn't the whole ceiling fell down as far as I remember?". Turns out history is always rewritten next episode in this season.
Dielson Sales that’s what I’m saying underrated point. This season is honestly childish
@@DielsonSales Right? The fucking catacombs collapsed. But when Tyrion gets there it's only a tiny piece of rubble in some corner? And the two of them are perfectly fine without a scratch. They would have been mush...such a waste.
I was hoping Tyrion was using the brick on Cersei's head because she got Jamie killed. Nope, Tyrion is sad his sadistic sister, who tried to kill him more than any one on the entire show, had died.
lmao me too
"I know a killer when I see one" -Arya Stark the Genius, just after almost being viciously killed by Daenerys for an entire episode, along with hundreds of thousands of innocent people
What an amazingly wise observation! What meaningful input!
Got to love the hypocrisy and irony. "Why are you here Arya? To kill Cersie but your girlfriend killed her first. She is a killer" And what the heck are you? Was Arya going to tickle Cersie to death?
@@aileenpi73
that would have been better to watch :-)
I WANTED to like Arya but the interviews with that egotistical Maise were such a turn-off. She acted as if she were some type of Wonder Woman because SHE was selected to make "the kill". Arya was just another "tool" in an empty and meaningless toolbox.
Anna Wisdomsdottir yes, she & sophie are so annoying
@@aileenpi73 Even if she tickled Cersei to death she'd still be killing her.
No, instead she showed up, changed her mind after the Hound gives her a logical directive which he admits is contrary to his illogical one, and, glancing down at the map room floor, noticed hey, even this map is stopping West of Westeros, what's up with that? Got a new purpose now, gotta go, Sandor, thank you! She kind of forgot about who she was intermittently (after the hit on the head that concussed her during the exit from King's Landing and made her hallucinate that white horse).
Jon Snow's entire character arc was literally for nothing. I mean the fact he didn't become king in the end is unacceptable. His whole build up in the last two seasons is to become what he was born to be, and they just put him right back where he started. What an absolute travesty.
The worst ending because of Snow killing Daenerys and Drogon not roasting his ass.....smh. You describing Bran being unfit to lead is eerily similar to Joe Biden 😂