Leatherman's Replacement Arc Cutters Get Tested!! Surprising Results!
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I think you should have made cuts with the wire all of the way to the back to see if they broke. It’s way to tedious to have to position the wire in a precise way to avoid damage.
I was hoping he would do that too. Their wire cutters, not a precision instrument. It's absurd, annoying, and would add time to what you're working on. I can't think of one multitool or set of wire cutters I have were I have to take the time and be careful were I put the wire like is needed with this new design. Something else has to be at play.
Thanks for the update! Really glad the arc can actually cut wire as good as tools ten times cheaper. Good fix Leatherman!
I know you aren't asking me specifically, but here is my opinion. You can get a tool that works, or, for almost 8 times the cost, get a tool that does not work. This issue is not just the hard wire cutters; it is the pliers, the scissors, the awl, the PE blade, the wire stripper, the crimper, etc.
The Leatherman has a lower value than a knockoff at only 1/8th the cost.
The cutters either work or they don't. I don't put up with sub-par quality from any tool. Why should I have a different attitude toward Leatherman? Putting the wire in the cutters and clamping down is the correct way--regardless of any positioning lie/excuse Leatherman tells you. If their tool fails basic use--well, that really says that their design/workmanship/quality is sub-par. Leatherman should be called out of this, every time, and held to account, every time. If they won't make quality products on their own, either you as a customee can force them to correct their eggregious errors, or you can be one of those people who settles for a low-quality product. It sounds as if you already made your choice.
Leatherman does not care about their customers. They sell you high-priced junk, and laugh at you all the way to the bank.
Fools and their money are easily parted.
I know what you mean, I love Leatherman but really hope the Arc doesn't turn out to be a farce.
Back again with my Apples to Leathermans (leathermen?) comparisons:
With the iphone 4, the positioning of the antenna bands around the frame meant that signal would be completely blocked if you held the device in your typical smartphone grip position.
Apple's response: You're holding it wrong.
LoL! Great analogy!!!
I always wanted the cutters from EOD's on my Surges. After the Arcgate i noticed that my newest Surge came with that bad cutters so i ordered 2 pairs from amazon italy, the only place that sale those in Europe. It toke me 3 minutes to modify each cutter and im very happy now. It still can cut 2mm hardwire (that thing is as popular as duct tape in my country). For more serious jobs i rely on a Knipex Cobolt. In fact Surge+CoboltS+Cobra150 is equal to the price of the Arc here in Romania. 300 euros (or dollars).
Good fix!
Thats a good set-up, i love the 150 cobra
Yeah! The Surge is a survivor!! I literally broke waves, blasts, rebars, etc..
Honestly I'm still one the first set of cutters on my Arc an was sweating bullets when I had to use them at work to cut baler wire an it's like 14 gauge I guess not as thick as your coat hanger but still pretty damn strong,an they cut right through with no problem an I didn't slide wire all the to the rear of my cutters but in its designated area designed for it like my surge an no breaking or rolling so far,just saying,yeah it sucks to stop to look to makes wire is where it's supposed to beforehand cutting,but in the long end keeps from damaging your tool an gets the job done an also knowing how to use your tool properly an it's limitations,you just have to be smart about things,yes I agree with you I don't like the gap in the cutter's,even in my surge,I may look elsewhere later on when time to replace them for the longer cutters an see that eliminates the gap that's known now,ty for sharing your video,an yes I'm glad Leatherman did their heat treatment issue fixed,i got my Arc back second week of December a few days after my birthday an I just absolutely love it.
Glad to hear you haven't had any issues!
@@hvacbudget8600 ,yes sir thank you, yeah I was skeptical of ordering one after hearing all this on CZcams an my told me if I like it an want it,buy one an see,not to listen everyone,an yeah so far it's impressed me
I would just say to be mindful about placement, because if you are on a job & you are working away & forget....
@@edgaraquino2324 ,right exactly I get that,I always look before I clamp to make s cut to make sure an haven't had any issues yet.
the gap works like a wire striper without having to close the pillars. I have cut 30 wires + with my original cutters no problem. if you try to cut in the gap it will break them. thanks for the share! stay awesome .
Leatherman’s new geometry is garbage
Thanks for making this follow up. To me, this isn't a real fix. You still have to baby it by making sure you don't land the wire in that gap. Any tool above $50 that has to be pampered isn't worth the cost. ESPECIALLY when knock off's can perform like the legit tool should. I can't see this move as anything other than Leatherman trying to satiate those calling them out while keeping the new design for whatever reason they originally wanted it. Until they go back to the old design and be open about the issue I can't trust them.
It is very disappointing!
Really wish a Leatherman engineer could chime in to fill us in on the cutter dent.
I got my ARC in late November. The date stamp says 07/23. I wonder if I have a bad set of cutters. I went ahead and ordered a replacement set to be in the safe side. Those came in today. But I’m not cutting up hangers.
You said it right you have to place the wire a little up on the cutter. If you place the wire where the notch is it will break.
It's sad that you have to do that spending $230. I suggest people buy the old Free P switch out the pliers. I have the Free P it has no problems with cutting.
IME if you put it in the notch it doesn't break, just doesn't cut. My suspicion is the breaking was a heat treat issue on a batch, just combined with the changed cutting position that confused people
As for indexing the wire - i dont have to look or be super intentional now i have the muscle memory for it - i partially close the pliers around the wire and then back them out and the wire indexes itself against the top of the notch. Still less convenient than seating at the bottom, but a non-issue for me now.
I do wonder if there was some other reason they changed them (tho ofc leatherman is always obnoxiously opaque on this stuff) - maybe to solve binding issues ive heard some people got after cutting wire on the old style cutters with the wire pressed down into the joint?
Now if only they'll fix the Style PS scissor spring hardness rather than discontinuing the whole thing, and put a magnet in the bottom of their extension again. Their website is all kinds of messed up too with little mistakes like showing a Style CS picture on the Style PS. Man this company has gone downhill. Meanwhile daicamping over here not letting anyone down...
Do the cutters of the flissa fit in the Leatherman?
No unfortunately.
Can you tell me how good Daicamping DL30 cutter works? You are testing it?
It works good! Check out my earlier videos about the Arc's cutters. I tested the DL30 in that one.
The thing that I don’t like is …… The no response / no statement from Leatherman about the ARC’s cutters!
If Leatherman wants to be the world leader in Multitools …. Then they need to stand up and communicate to their customers about their products!
C’mon Leatherman …. Have some balls and communicate! Good grief!
This applies to Surge too, ita a joke, get ya act together leatherman!
If someone makes a good old style cutter I would buy. Crazy to have to be careful where you cut. I have one old set I will move from another Leatherman to my Arc but unhappy about it. I don’t like knife on Swiss tool otherwise would go back to it.
I don't mind do cutters go to the end or have any small hole until they cut the wire I gave them.
Right positioning also do not bother me - it's like the following tool producer's recommendations.
Sometimes we're trying to find problems where there are no one there.
Good video! As I understand it, with these new cutters, we need to "eyeball" what we are going to cut before we cut it? So we have to be careful to place the wire above the gap to avoid messing up the cutters? Wow....& these are the cutters meant for a vast majority of L's tools....wow again, just nuts...I took out my Surge & I have the "old" cutters as the "gap" is barely negligible...i.e., they are almost all the way to the bottom....thanks for showing the difference...the "gap" in mine is a tad bigger than a hole a pin makes...
You are fortunate!! Yes you are correct about positioning the wire.
@@hvacbudget8600 thanks...it's still nuts that you have to be careful with placement now when that was not a worry before....I agree with all your points & your misgivings as well....
you can do it by feel by partially closing the pliers and then backing out the wire until it seats itself against the top of the hard wire cutting notch
Did Leathermen charge you for the new cutters?
No, they sent them free.
I would normally say they aren’t meant for cutting coat hangers. But then a couple weeks ago Leatherman themselves put up a social media post encouraging that cutting chain link fencing is ok. Odd timing on their part.
LoL, that is!!
Man i feel for ya, I'd be stressed using the Arc at work😂
Good video as always mate👍
Thanks!
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I'd be annoyed if I had to put up with this on a $30 multitool. I'd be furious if I paid over $100 for it. 😬 Thankfully I am buying cheapo multitools first for now, and letting you experts go through the pain for me. 😁😋
LoL! I know!
Try $230 for an Arc and you'd be furious!
@@andrewplaysoutside Let me redo this then: I'd be annoyed if this happened on a $30 multitool. I'd be furious if this happened on a $100 multitool. I'd call for a meteor the size of the moon to crash into the heart of this world and split it in half, letting us fly into the unknown depths of eternity if I paid $230.
Better?
🤣
i replaced the original cutter with the M42 cutter from aliexpress.
Nice!
Did you have to modify the cutters to fit the ARC? It says on their website sanding is required.
Also which is more useful, the angled or straight cutters ?
Thanks
@@whirledpeas5644 no modification. Direct installation. Mine is angled but i have yet to test it.
Why change from what’s worked for 20 years
Exactly!
I so regret getting the arc I broke the Cutters. Almost immediately I notified Letherman about it. They won't Send me a new set. Until I send them the broken Ones I have 2. spend my money to send the broken ones back. They want not send me a new set until I send the broken ones back.. So I will put my leather Ark In my drawer. and use my Cheaper tool that has better cutters. Which is not a Leatherman. I will not. Suggest anybody to get them until they get it fixed. Or send me my new cutters.
Wow!
Having to be so finicky about it is beyond ridiculous. This can not be considered a legitimate "feature".
Still garbage.