Tanaka Commander Build Guide | World of Warships Legends Console
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- Commander build guide for Raizo Tanaka, the IJN Japanese destroyer commander in World of Warships WoWs Legends Console, the free to play game from Wargaming available on PS4 and Xbox 1. Going over skills, perks, traits and inspirations for Tanaka.
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This is really helpful. Definitely wouldn't mind seeing more of these in depth commander builds and your thought process behind them
Good to hear!
You should definitely do more of these in-depth Commander Builds. It’ll probably be a big hit with everyone.
Yep, will do!
Agreed
I love your tutorials I appreciate you so much and you are so right on with these builds.
Enjoyed the video, I play on Xbox1 and have pretty much the identical build for Tanaka. Mine is level 16 legend 2. I find that he is the best for Japanese destroyers, using Bey at level 8 and Tyrwitt at 9. Last battle in Kaveri, I was never spotted the entire game and ended up with best game so far, 175454 total damage, three kills, Liquidator, Witherer and High Caliber. Since the Japanese line of destroyers is in my opinion superior to other nations ,I haven’t wasted a lot of effort on the lines. Keep up good work.
Solid game! Each DD line has it's strengths and weaknesses, but the IJN does the trick when played well
Think this series is excellent. I feel like commanders and their inspirations are what I understand least about this game! Thanks for the content!
Glad you like it, I'll get some more coming down the pipeline soon
Exxxcellent! Much thanks for the Vid, certain commanders are automatically geered toward certain Ship Types but still helps seeing it.
Each nation has 1 generic commander that everyone has, and then 2 commanders that are intended for each class. You can use them on other classes if you want, but any perk that mentions a specific class of ship is wasted if you use it on a different class
Looks like my Tanaka build, except I'm only rank 8 but legendary 2. I'm running Fragile Threat, which makes the ships weak from a hp perspective, but he's very stealthy. Was saving PO's to rank him to 12, but bought De Grasse and sank them into Lemmonier. Another thing, since I got the Maass I'm just not playing IJN destroyers very much. I'm always pushing forward, often too aggressively, and IJN guns are not enough when you stumble upon anything other than a rival Japanese DD. Great video! Hope to see more like it.
Thanks!
More useful info, as usual. I like this Captain as well. I use the extended torpedo range though. Very useful for camping battleships and cruisers, plus just keeping the max amount of chaos in the water. Always look forward to your content.
Thanks!
First of all, great series...very informative and thought provoking.
Second, I disagreed on two of your perk choices for Tanaka...
...until you explained your reasoning, and I thought "damn...he's got a really good point there..." 🤔👍😎
😂 Customize the build to your playstyle. This is what works for me, but I was hoping to give people some ideas to think about, so I'm glad to hear it!
Great video Tbull. Added Simms for inspiration, who I have at R16, and jumped my HP from 13330 to 15540
Nice, that's quite a bump!
Saves me from getting 1 torp then port 😂😂
Great video keep up the great work!
Thanks!
Love this video need more
Good to hear!
Being IJN Destroyer focused myself this is exactly how I set mine up, currently at level 15 with legendary 1. Inspirations are Tyrwhitt and Sims. Don't have the others but I think I'd go with Sims even if I did, as I agree that the extra concealment is only marginally useful. (Mostly against other IJNs)
I'll definitely give Sims a hard look for this build when I get him
Most helpful. One principle I follow is that "You Can't Take It ALL With You", for configuring both ships and Commanders. There is no combination that will negate all weaknesses and maximise all strengths - imo, the best you can do is pick a general direction or "theme" and build out in that direction If you try to use the Commander to eliminate that ship's problems (such as trying to turn Jap DDs into gunboats), you will get something that might shoot OKish, but it still won't match a Brit or Yank DD and otherwise will be pretty mediocre.
. For example, my beloved Fuso has Legendary Kondo, The resulting combination shoots straight but not as far as some other BBs, and is a close-quarters beast with extra heals that Will Just Not Burn Down. Which suits my playstyle just fine, and that is a vital consideration when matching up Commanders and ships..
Yeah in general that is a good approach.
Feels good getting Mogami back (played WoW on PC till the lag kicked up) but miss being able to switch between x15 155mm or x10 203. I hope the Atago is available to buy soon, I sail out on my XB1 but appreciate your Vids.
Sounds like Atago will be the next campaign ship
i just unlocked this guy and hes is amazing, copled with the brish destoyer captains he makes your torps reload so fast.
Yeah I'd agree!
He was the first commander I unlocked from a random weekly crate, and I got a Kamikaze from a Santa crate shortly after. Tqlk about lucky synergy!
My favorite Legend
Got him 15 +1
Dam I need Bey!
Tanakas quite strong!
Same here. I need Bey.
@@AceMoonshot yep .
Another good vid. That is same build I use. Although even now I tend to switch it up depending in the tiers.
I will say there is one inspiration that I have used but not sure how to evaluate how much it actually helps. Dewey.
When I am in my DD, I like to spot fish in the water asap. Not for me but for my team. I get out there spotting to give my team a little edge in dodging the fishies. My Dewey expands the zone by 7.2%. But how many BBs it has saved, no way to know.
Anyway, good vid, thanks.
Yeah he's another one I was considering mentioning. And glad to hear you are screening for torps for your team! That definitely will help you win some games
I used Dewey before I got Sims. I agree it's effective and a good teamwork skill.
i always wondered what that percentage applied to.The enemies torp detection? 7.2% of a kagero,s 1.7 is only .1 km
@@kevingreen3209 No idea. Wondered the exact same thing. I must admit there is a shortage of comprehensive info in-game. I did look into it originally online, thinking the PC version might have more info that I could postulate from. But gave up the search pretty quick when I started getting new commanders. But .1km ain't much, is it? And iirc Kagero's torps are easier to see than others. So it'd be even less with other ships.
And that is if it is even a defensive skill to start with.
I’m leveling up fubi rn I have same Tanaka build but I use jerzy and bey for that extra concealment. Once I get up to tier 7 might switch one with terw
Your logic for detectability applies the same to the health. A small % for the smallest health pool at the tier. I always go all in on a ships strengths and make sure to always play at them. Finding a middle ground almost defeats the purpose of ship variety. As for range, the greater your torp range the more individual battles you'll be able to impact more safely. More ships incoming from different angles allows more advanced topedo play from a greater concealement range. Torpedo range over reload depends of map awarness and player skill. If you find yourself unaware and missing torps, the reload is indeed better.
Edit: The legendary trait unstoppable is currently glitched or miss worded because it applies its max legendary buff and currently works similiarly to quick fix.
You could also say that hitting someone at 10.6 km also relies on the lack of player skill on the other end 😉
@@TbullGaming While i see your point against inexperienced players. But anyone who just fires their entire salvo where the line tells them at long range is wrong. Using map awareness in tandem with player tendencies you can more times than not predict where a player is going to be next. That requires an experienced DD player, hence if you find yourself missing torps. Use the reduced reload. I just had a 192k tier 4 Kamikaze game with 20 torp hits and 7 kills. You dont get 20 torps hit in one game unless you know what you're doing. I dont think i would have had that many if i shaved 1-2km off of my max torp range.
Thanks for posting this , tbull . Will this set up work well for tier 4 Kamakaze ? Thanks .
Yeah, it works well with that ship
Good video well done but did you need 20 min to do a commander build?
Some new commander build vids would be good be good 👍 especially with the new commanders
Thanks TBull great stuff as always. If I already have 100 concealment can I reduce it any further, or would I be better boosting something else?
I'm not sure since I don't use the 1-100 summary stats, but just focus on the more detailed stats that show surface and air detection ranges. I haven't seen anything that suggests a low end cap to it though
@@TbullGaming Did a little research.. Kamikaze with Tanaka your build, Bey inspiration, 100 rating 5km detect. If I select Fragile Threat, can get it to 100/4.8km. So it looks like you are correct on all counts. I think FT is worth it, as my DD is toast if torpedoed or focused fired anyway, no matter how many HP. Stealth is the key and FT gives you more. Just my opinion - your mileage may vary. Love your stuff keep up the great work. Big fan.
Raizô Tanaka - against superior firepower, against radar, against surprise, against T formation, against the odds ... a Genius.
The unstoppable legendary perk works like the engine perk that Burke has. It keeps your engine and steering working if it's been knocked out. Imo that's more valuable.
The way it's worded, it didn't sound like it worked like that until it was maxed. You guys are telling me it does work, so it's definitely much more valuable
@@TbullGaming yeah that's what I thought until someone else said that it worked anyways. So I tried it on Bey in my Maas and my engine got busted, kept approx. 3/4 speed until my engine fixed itself.
Whats the smallest detection ring you can get (no smoke)
Had to do a double take when video first started... looked like you had the same commander in both inspiration slots. Bey and Tyrwhitt long lost brothers? Lol
If they're brothers, I have a feeling they didn't get along during family gatherings
If there is one thing I have learned playing DD's it is that teamwork is rarely there. Cruisers usually run for cover hiding behind Islands usually incapable of targeting enemy destroyers and friendly battleships try to run around Islands acting like they're being sneaky.
There is no such thing as a sneaky battleship morons.
When you're playing you're destroyer just assume you're on your own.
Can Tanaka be used on carriers to increase the torp damage? As an inspiration not as a captain
Hey bud, really informative vid... I'm using heihachiro as my destroyer build. Captain, he seems a little better than tanaka, I'm missing something ..what do I think.
All the best
Rob
The generics aren't bad for DDs, in fact I think all of Togo's perks overlap with Tanakas. I'd argue Tanakas base trait is stronger, and for perk 1 & 4 I use different options than Togo has, but if he is working for you that's what matters. The point of the commander system is to set up the ships to accentuate your playstyle, so what I find valuable will often be different than the next player
Yassss Queen! The broad spectrum look at the different countries commanders is helpful and useful but the more in depth look at commanders is definitely more beneficial in my opinion. Just my 2 cents though.
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Glad to hear it, I'll have more coming down the line
I have a question u say that the usn destroyers have the strongest smoke, what do u mean with that do u mean the longest oder the widest? Keep up the good work ur my hero in this game;)
Longest initial deployment, which if you keep moving allows for very large clouds, and longest lasting once it is deployed.
Thanks!
I use Tanaka with Gleaves and Bay as inspiration for sneaky, fast and powerfull longrange torps when i am not spotted, while i spot for my team. I try to fire them as close as i can get, without being compromised. have had luck so far. I hate facing the same thing when i am in a battleship... Karma.
Can you please tell me how I get my commanders past tier 8. I get promotion orders but they only work for the lower tier commanders.
You are probably low on commander xp (blue stars). Be sure you have enough blue xp when you try and level up a commander; if you don't have enough, it will substitute green xp, which takes a long time to accumulate
Mine haves the same rank as yours but for inspiration i got for the moment a lvl 16 LR2 Sims for more health in case that I'm attacked and a lvl 12 LR2 Jerzy for concealment but i wonder how lower it would go if i had Bey with Jerzy since both have concealment base traits then maybe some DD may go lower than 5k. I have Tyrwhitt but I'm working of having him at a higher level so that he can be useful and with this build then my beloved Kamikaze can reload its torps under 40 seconds and my Kagero i believe it's a little bit over 70 seconds around like 77 but and i also got Von Spee unlocked but I'm disappointed with Burke that he doesn't have the Surface Venture perk so I'm still using Dewey for the U.S. for torp runs and i also got Halsey and Kurita for gun boat running and i do have Vian but not sure how to set him up but one thing for sure is that with Sims as inspiration on my Z23 then the HP goes over 21k mark and i could use Bey as a tanky gun boat build but I'm hoping that some point in the future the Z39 is available for purchase. Nice Vid and have a nice day.
Thanks, you too!
Jellicoe better than Trywitt, torp skills same. Simms a wasted inspiration. The extra 400 hp is worthless.
@@none3763 for lower tiers maybe but for higher tiers are worth it because you have to remember that you have to multiply the current number by the level of tiers. For battleships may not be need it but destroyers could be useful going up against other destroyers or if you take a sudden hit but still managed to survive enough to hit back then i recommend but I'm aiming for lots of concealment and when i unlock Bey and pair him with Jerzy just to get even closer to dump torpedoes and get the hell out of there but Tyrwhitt is also a good choice but i need him at a higher level to make him more useful.
@@none3763 BTW Surface Venture perk is better than Contact Is Imminent perk and Jellicoe doesn't have it.
-10% DPM :(
Sims is a good inspiration for dds too. Only for high tier dds though.
Yeah, I'll be interested to see how it works once I get him unlocked
I use Bay and sims for my ijn dd line.
That way I can take the skill that gives me a better concealment but less hit points
When you add a commander as an inspiration, does it add only their base trait? Or adds some of their perks? Or all levels of their perks?
Just the base trait at the level it is at for the commander being used as the inspiration
@@TbullGaming I thought I had read somewhere, that after a certain level, you might be able to take advantage of all traits and perks of the inspiration commander. But don't recall where I seen that. That would be awesome if true!
That would be way too powerful. I have a maxed Norm Scott and he doesn't get anyone else's perks, nor does his perks apply to any other ship, so I believe wherever you got that info it was incorrect
Isn't Unstoppable the equivalent to Last Stand? Engines stay running when damaged.
At the highest level it is
I got Tanaka to L2 last night and it works @2 , got hit in engine and still kept going.
Hmm, must have been a poor translation then. Good to know!
I heard that this was a bug...going to get "fixed" in the future...? Not sure where I heard it...Tactic, maybe?
Let's hope not, I just checked on legendary1 and works. Shhhhhh don't tell WG.
Fun fact: with the right commander setup (and a booster) you can get a 20km range on the Iowa.
I don't doubt it. Back up far enough and Kageros running this build will skip through the lines and nuke those iowas point blank though 😉
Does he work on lower tis To I only have my D d'sAt T4?
Yeah he is a good fit for the entire line
Do you still think Simms base trait is worthless for BBs?
I don't think I'd say it's worthless, but there are other picks that I'd take over it
Hahahaha turns out this is almost the same build I use. Except Reginald Tyrwhitt yet. So I run Bruce Fraser instead for the speed boast. Seam to work pretty good. Still working thru the Akatsuki. And I'm setting at 97 for maneuverability and 95 for concealment. I can hit 41.1km, 640m turn radius, 2.6s rudder shift and detectability by sea 5.9km, detectability by air 3.3km, guaranteed detectability at 2km and detectability whilst firing in smoke is 2.5km. Hope to sink you without being seen soon Tbull. See you out there.
😂👍
i been noticing how the turn radius affects gameplay,The higher this stat, the more it becomes apparent.
a higher turn radius means your vunerable side is shown for a longer time in a full turn.Also when dodging in a full turn you can take yourself out of your range to return fire or even get back in the fight
How do you unlock Tanaka to begin with?
Every Sunday there is a mission that unlocks that has a commander crate in it. You'll get it out of there soon enough
@@TbullGaming I checked this Sunday and - tada - I got Tanaka. Thank you sir!
Not a Destroyer build but I put Madden and Cunningham (both rank 11/legendary) as inspirations on my rank 15/legendary Takagi build and had a dude in a Scharnhorst literally message me accusing me of cheating cause my Amagi was reloading too fast and bullshit accurate xD
Solid build. Sadly Madden is on of the five commanders I still need, which sucks because I would run him on numerous battleship and cruiser builds
I don't even have Tanaka. And I'm not wasting more money on crates just to get duplicates. I think there's about 9 or 10 commanders total I still need.
You'll get him sooner or later. I had a really bad string of luck but I've been getting some non-Dewplicates as of later
@@TbullGaming...Dewplicates...I see what you did there...😆
@@TbullGaming The last duplicate I got was of that mustachioed fool, I wasn't impressed.
Use same for Tanaka. Jellicoe is better than Trywitt for RN DD's.
That would be very nice
When I pop smoke it doesn't seem to do any good. They still always know exactly where I'm at in the smoke and pummel me.
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Tbull the crossplay is going to be huge If they can pull it off
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