Made mock lines and didn’t even put Skinner in the line up lmao. Skinner-McDavid-Hyman Kane-Draisaitl-Ardvisson Nuge-Henrique-Holloway Janmark-Ryan-Brown Nuge and Skinner could be flipped. The whole top 9 could be put in a blender and you’d still have 3 really solid lines. Great to see this kind of depth
That’s fair, I don’t think Kane is a bad player. I just think that if anybody is going to have to go for cap space, he makes the most sense. Although an argument could definitely be made for Ceci.
@@rhye_guy7717 Also, teams in their own division and conference are beefing up their D so you'll need some offensive toughness. Losing Kane will hurt. At the same time too it might have to be done for cap reasons. What happens if nurse decides to retire and then unretire? Does he have to sign a new contract? 🤣🤣 Just trying to think of loopholes here.
@@SSHockeyCeci absolutely will be moved first IMO. Evander bleeds for this team, and the Oilers know it. He played with A sports hernia mostly all year, and did have that wrist injury, you’re not the same after. I will believe them moving him when I see it. Pack your shit Ceci
Mmm Kane wasn’t so much a factor against the nucks as was Sam carrick! He was the factor that cancelled out zadorov size. Sam was hitting zadorov every chance he got and those hits left a mark
@@travishanna4619 if they don’t move on from Evander Kane wouldn’t one of them slide to line 4? Nug-McDavid-Hyman Kane-Draisaitl-Arvidsson Skinner-Henrique-Brown/Janmark Janmark/Brown-Ryan-Perry
@@SSHockey I think the prevailing school of thought right now is that Kane will likely get surgery after his summer vacation and will be on LTIR til playoffs. That would give Oilers ample room to figure out the Holloway and Broberg situations. Maybe even get 1 of them signed long-term.
@@SSHockey Also, I dunno if line combos really matter. The entire forward lineup could look good playing with McDavid. It's super deep. I expect lots of mixing and matching all year. I assume Kane will be on LTIR... and I think Holloways probably plays more games than Perry. And I think we got a couple prospects who could also see icetime. Lavoie plays a lot like Kane and could be a fit temporarily if he plays well in camp; and Savoie is a lot like Brayden Point and considering Perry doesn't PK, I could see him pushing Perry down to a 13th forward or first AHL call-up.
In regards to Evander Kane, the Oilers have 3 primary options, including; a) Provided that he waives his no movement clause in his contract, the Oilers could trade him for someone else (making a lot less money) or a draft pick(s). b) Depending on what happens with his ongoing sport's hernia, Kane could return to play in the regular season/playoffs, or, c) If he needs a delicate operation (probably in late August) and needs a considerable amount of time to recover, he could be placed on LTIR which in turn would free up over 5 million dollars in cap space. Then, if this should be the case, the Oilers would be able to re-sign players such as Dylan Holloway while at the same time being cap compliant. Problem solved.
Both Skinner and Arvidson will likely benefit from the Zach Hyman effect. He went from a 20 goal scorer to a 50 goal scorer. If either of the new players can learn to fit into the flow and be ready for the chances created, they will thrive.
Kane isn't going anywhere, neither is Nurse. I think the solution will be Kane on LTIR (pull a Vegas). I suspect Ceci will be punted before the season starts.
You're essentially right, but Drai was injured in the playoffs and it really affected his ability to shoot and it hurt the PP. Skinner could slot into Drai's position off the wall and do well there. So he'd fit in if there's injuries
Forgot Skinner in mock lines haha. I think the Oilers go with: Skinner - McDavid - Hyman (Skinner gives McDavid a pure sniper option, while Hyman provides the power forward option, both of which are proven to have the most success paired with McDavid) RNH - Draisaitl - Arvidsson (essentially the spiritual successor to the line with Yamamoto only Arvidsson is the same player as Yams just 2x better at least) Kane/Holloway - Henrique - Perry/Savoie (this is either the grinder line with Perry in, or it's legitimately a 1st line on the Ducks with Savoie in. Depends on which type of style the team wants.Also depends on Kane's health on whether or not Holloway is here or 4C) Fourth line is Janmark - Ryan/Holloway - Brown (you absolutely keep janmark and Brown together, and then whoever for 4C between Ryan and some of the Bakersfield prospects) Defense you nailed though. Ceci probably traded and Brown as the 3RD. Or kulak traded, Broberg 3LD, and we go another regular season with Nurse - Ceci til TDL
Woah woah woah… If your bottom 6 is Janmark-Henrique-Savoie Brown-Ryan-Perry Than where is one of: Mcdavid, Hyman, Draisital, RNH, Skinner, Ardvidsson, Holloway? I understand the narrative around trading Kane I don’t think they’re gonna do that, I think it’ll likely be Ceci, so you can add Kane to that list too.
Theres always a lot of expectations and hype, but we just have to see. Will Skinner play on the top powerplay? Hard to say. When a player moves, theres different dynamics. Im sure there will be a lot of tinkering with lines throughout the season.
am stoked for J Skinner! he s been stuck on such a bottom feeder }} Fluff a lo }} for way too long! MCleod for Savoie is a steal! but.... the Perry Monster again? Bad luck..
skinner wont be on a stacked power play also kane doesnt fit in the playoffs is silly, the man could not sit on the bench due to pain he fits, hes just expensive and can be replaced by cheaper, younger players and nurse cant go anywhere if the oilers want to keep 29 and 97 longterm
@@MrBallzy I meant to mention Skinner on line 2 or 3 LW depending on if Kane gets moved or not! Just forgot to recap it that way after mentioning he could slide up to line 2
Why Skinner is a 1 year deal then gone, Arvidddon is a 2 year deal then gone, and don’t kid yourself , the oilers are not in a position to match an offer sheet, Broberg will cost team a 2nd round pick, Holloway will cost a team a 2nd round pick, the best the oilers can offer is 2-2.5 million, I will definitely give these guys 3-4 million 5 year deal, for a 2nd round pick, no brainer, let’s see what happens ???????? 😅
Biased media,oilers haven't made that much improvement theyre goalies still in net ...again his soft goal lost a game 7 cup to the panthers...there d isn't solid good luck with nurse
@@stephenbarradell4043 the NMC would make a trade tough, but I’m sure a team would take him for the right price. As for them not making it out of the second round, maybe. But I think their team would be better if they allocated that money to address areas on the roster that are weaker (defence).
@@caperboy1169 doesn’t mean it by any means, but if the team doesn’t win the cup I’d say it isn’t a “win” for the season. Their hope would almost definitely be cup or bust I’d say. Also, you never know. Just look at Florida and Tampa over the past 5 seasons 👀
@@caperboy1169 I wouldn’t say so, it was the first time the team made the Stanley Cup finals in the McDavid/Draisaitl era. I just think expectations have been raised now that they’ve gotten there
The curse of 1988 will dominate in perpetuity. Doesn’t matter who you sign, how many 1st overall pics you are gifted, no matter how many points you put up in the regular season. You will never win the cup again. Need I remind you of the events a few weeks ago. Oh so close, tough luck Edmonton.
Made mock lines and didn’t even put Skinner in the line up lmao.
Skinner-McDavid-Hyman
Kane-Draisaitl-Ardvisson
Nuge-Henrique-Holloway
Janmark-Ryan-Brown
Nuge and Skinner could be flipped. The whole top 9 could be put in a blender and you’d still have 3 really solid lines. Great to see this kind of depth
I hate the narrative around Kane. The Oilers wouldn't got past Vancouver without him imo.
That’s fair, I don’t think Kane is a bad player. I just think that if anybody is going to have to go for cap space, he makes the most sense. Although an argument could definitely be made for Ceci.
@@rhye_guy7717 Also, teams in their own division and conference are beefing up their D so you'll need some offensive toughness. Losing Kane will hurt.
At the same time too it might have to be done for cap reasons.
What happens if nurse decides to retire and then unretire? Does he have to sign a new contract? 🤣🤣 Just trying to think of loopholes here.
I would probably do Ceci@@SSHockey
@@SSHockeyCeci absolutely will be moved first IMO. Evander bleeds for this team, and the Oilers know it. He played with A sports hernia mostly all year, and did have that wrist injury, you’re not the same after. I will believe them moving him when I see it. Pack your shit Ceci
Mmm Kane wasn’t so much a factor against the nucks as was Sam carrick! He was the factor that cancelled out zadorov size. Sam was hitting zadorov every chance he got and those hits left a mark
Brown Henrique Janmark will be the third line
@@travishanna4619 if they don’t move on from Evander Kane wouldn’t one of them slide to line 4?
Nug-McDavid-Hyman
Kane-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Skinner-Henrique-Brown/Janmark
Janmark/Brown-Ryan-Perry
@@SSHockey I'd like to have Kane with McDavid and Skinner with Draisaitl and move RNH to third line center between Henrique and Brown.
no janmark and brown are unreal together and henrique at C was a great third line in the playoffs that’s why they signed
@@SSHockey I think the prevailing school of thought right now is that Kane will likely get surgery after his summer vacation and will be on LTIR til playoffs.
That would give Oilers ample room to figure out the Holloway and Broberg situations. Maybe even get 1 of them signed long-term.
@@SSHockey Also, I dunno if line combos really matter. The entire forward lineup could look good playing with McDavid. It's super deep. I expect lots of mixing and matching all year. I assume Kane will be on LTIR... and I think Holloways probably plays more games than Perry. And I think we got a couple prospects who could also see icetime. Lavoie plays a lot like Kane and could be a fit temporarily if he plays well in camp; and Savoie is a lot like Brayden Point and considering Perry doesn't PK, I could see him pushing Perry down to a 13th forward or first AHL call-up.
In regards to Evander Kane, the Oilers have 3 primary options, including; a) Provided that he waives his no movement clause in his contract, the Oilers could trade him for someone else (making a lot less money) or a draft pick(s). b) Depending on what happens with his ongoing sport's hernia, Kane could return to play in the regular season/playoffs, or, c) If he needs a delicate operation (probably in late August) and needs a considerable amount of time to recover, he could be placed on LTIR which in turn would free up over 5 million dollars in cap space. Then, if this should be the case, the Oilers would be able to re-sign players such as Dylan Holloway while at the same time being cap compliant. Problem solved.
Both Skinner and Arvidson will likely benefit from the Zach Hyman effect. He went from a 20 goal scorer to a 50 goal scorer. If either of the new players can learn to fit into the flow and be ready for the chances created, they will thrive.
@@user-sm3ii5dk1u absolutely!
Sorry man you don't know what you are talking about Kane was injured the whole season and is hardnosed in the playoffs.
A healthy Kane is worth so much...we need some team toughness still!
Exactly, Kane could go to LTIR now knowing they'll be fine
Kane isn't going anywhere, neither is Nurse. I think the solution will be Kane on LTIR (pull a Vegas). I suspect Ceci will be punted before the season starts.
Not sure when you recorded this, but they re-signed Lavoie on July 8th!
@@streaterschaffer1474 yup recorded just before the signing haha
Foegle off the team is a good thing. He is not a 3.5 million $ player.
@@tommytuna1419 definitely not with the Oilers. I honestly don’t hate the price for LA if he can remain a 20 goal guy.
I don't think Skinner's getting a sniff of the first PP unit. It's historically good, why mess with it?
@@neillore7332 maybe not the first unit, but he’d definitely help pp2. Plus you never know with injuries whether or not he will slide up
You're essentially right, but Drai was injured in the playoffs and it really affected his ability to shoot and it hurt the PP. Skinner could slot into Drai's position off the wall and do well there.
So he'd fit in if there's injuries
@@nrXic Good point. Depth is good
Forgot Skinner in mock lines haha. I think the Oilers go with:
Skinner - McDavid - Hyman (Skinner gives McDavid a pure sniper option, while Hyman provides the power forward option, both of which are proven to have the most success paired with McDavid)
RNH - Draisaitl - Arvidsson (essentially the spiritual successor to the line with Yamamoto only Arvidsson is the same player as Yams just 2x better at least)
Kane/Holloway - Henrique - Perry/Savoie (this is either the grinder line with Perry in, or it's legitimately a 1st line on the Ducks with Savoie in. Depends on which type of style the team wants.Also depends on Kane's health on whether or not Holloway is here or 4C)
Fourth line is Janmark - Ryan/Holloway - Brown (you absolutely keep janmark and Brown together, and then whoever for 4C between Ryan and some of the Bakersfield prospects)
Defense you nailed though. Ceci probably traded and Brown as the 3RD. Or kulak traded, Broberg 3LD, and we go another regular season with Nurse - Ceci til TDL
Woah woah woah… If your bottom 6 is
Janmark-Henrique-Savoie
Brown-Ryan-Perry
Than where is one of: Mcdavid, Hyman, Draisital, RNH, Skinner, Ardvidsson, Holloway? I understand the narrative around trading Kane I don’t think they’re gonna do that, I think it’ll likely be Ceci, so you can add Kane to that list too.
Theres always a lot of expectations and hype, but we just have to see. Will Skinner play on the top powerplay? Hard to say. When a player moves, theres different dynamics. Im sure there will be a lot of tinkering with lines throughout the season.
Nobody needs to change anything about the powerplay. Sadly we already lost 2 of our best penalty killers.
@@docforest4851 well said, and absolutely.
He will play on the second power play unit not the first guaranteed.
I think you forgot about Skinner after you didn't put him on the second line lol.
Lavoie was signed to a 2-way deal 3 days ago.
The next season begins NOW!
kane was huge for edmonton in the playoffs especially in the vancouver series. the money might not make sense tho
am stoked for J Skinner! he s been stuck on such a bottom feeder }} Fluff a lo }} for way too long! MCleod for Savoie is a steal! but.... the Perry Monster again? Bad luck..
Oilers r stacked
skinner wont be on a stacked power play
also kane doesnt fit in the playoffs is silly, the man could not sit on the bench due to pain
he fits, hes just expensive and can be replaced by cheaper, younger players
and nurse cant go anywhere if the oilers want to keep 29 and 97 longterm
So, is Skinner a healthy scratch?
@@MrBallzy I meant to mention Skinner on line 2 or 3 LW depending on if Kane gets moved or not! Just forgot to recap it that way after mentioning he could slide up to line 2
Kane has a no movement clause. That is pertinent to this discussion.
Savoie playing in the middle six makes no sense. Do better.
Why Skinner is a 1 year deal then gone, Arvidddon is a 2 year deal then gone, and don’t kid yourself , the oilers are not in a position to match an offer sheet, Broberg will cost team a 2nd round pick, Holloway will cost a team a 2nd round pick, the best the oilers can offer is 2-2.5 million, I will definitely give these guys 3-4 million 5 year deal, for a 2nd round pick, no brainer, let’s see what happens ???????? 😅
Biased media,oilers haven't made that much improvement theyre goalies still in net ...again his soft goal lost a game 7 cup to the panthers...there d isn't solid good luck with nurse
Their is no such thing as winning the offseason RIDICULOUS
You are so out to lunch . Why there's probably don't make it out of the second round Without evander kane. He also has a no movement.
@@stephenbarradell4043 the NMC would make a trade tough, but I’m sure a team would take him for the right price.
As for them not making it out of the second round, maybe. But I think their team would be better if they allocated that money to address areas on the roster that are weaker (defence).
ya Evander K can go! Oilers just got WAY ! better! and, like Florida Cats this year-- they had to wait a year to get Stanley!
Trade Kane and ceci for a good quality d man
lol. It was bust last season and it will be the same next season. Making the finals doesn’t mean the same will be repeated. Look at The Blues.
@@caperboy1169 doesn’t mean it by any means, but if the team doesn’t win the cup I’d say it isn’t a “win” for the season. Their hope would almost definitely be cup or bust I’d say.
Also, you never know. Just look at Florida and Tampa over the past 5 seasons 👀
@@SSHockey this past season was considered a bust then
@@caperboy1169 I wouldn’t say so, it was the first time the team made the Stanley Cup finals in the McDavid/Draisaitl era.
I just think expectations have been raised now that they’ve gotten there
Easy retort: look at the Panthers.
@@Squishysforbreakfast look at Vegas and Colorado
No there defence an goalie suck
If that was true the Oilers would have given up a lot more goals and eliminated from the playoffs much earlier. So obviously you're wrong.
The curse of 1988 will dominate in perpetuity. Doesn’t matter who you sign, how many 1st overall pics you are gifted, no matter how many points you put up in the regular season. You will never win the cup again. Need I remind you of the events a few weeks ago. Oh so close, tough luck Edmonton.
1988 curse ? Lol
So the Oilers didn't win in 1990? Why is this 1988 curse you are talking about?
Duh.