Sirui 24mm f/2.8 1.33x Anamorphic Lens
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The third Sirui anamorphic lens is a 24mm wide crazy wide angle. How does it work along the rest of the set?
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I loved the technical review at the 8 minute mark. I've got the 35 and 50 and just ordered the 24 this morning. Your reviews and knowledge are priceless. Thank you for taking the time to do this for us all.
Sirui does a great job with these affordable lenses, but the flares are too much for me personally.
too not "to"....yeah im that guy....sorry.....lol
Just preordered mine and went over to your channel and you never disappoint! I'm just glad Sirui gave us Fuji users some love at the wide angle!
As a film student right now, it’s really awesome to see whatever school your at continuing to work in this climate right now. Thanks again for those anamorphic inserts! Footage was grwat
Thank you! It was a tough semester for sure, and everyone made it out healthy! :)
Great advice as always. I’m expecting mine on Tuesday and can’t wait.
Great video, it looks so much wider than the 35mm! Just ordered mine, will have the whole set now!
great vid as always man! good work and thanks!
Just ordered this bad boy. It’ll be my first anamorphic that I’ll actually own. Very excited. Third times a charm even though the other two look great. Eventually will get that 50mm for tighter and I’m sure there will be some up used ;)
How is corner sharpness compared to the 35 tx
Great as always Tito!
Another great explainer. Cheers Tito!
Awesome video! What anamorphic stabilization settings did you use on the GH5?
This was a fantastic review. Clear, informed and well done. Subscribed!!
Thank you very much!
Thanks for the great review and footage.
We've got a little issue here with our 24 & 50mm lenses, both with MFT mount. We want them to use on a BMPCC 4k, which we'll buy soon. For the B Cam we already tried a Sony a6500 with an E-Mount to MFT mount adapter. The 50mm is really wiggly and lose on the adapter, whereas the 24mm won't fit over the mount at all. Pretty sure the lens bayonet diameters have a clear difference. Or is the adapter the problem?
Cheers
I absolutely need your mod for this one aswell! Love the mod for the 50mm. It's the thing that really makes it interesting
Thanks a bunch Tito, another great, super informative vid.
Will your 35 or 50mm inserts work on this lens? Or do we need a different size one?
I haven't opened this one yet, but considering that the 35 and 50 use different discs, that's my bet for the 24mm too.
Hey Tito, if price doesn't matter, would you pick this or the 28mm T2.2 Vazen? The Vazen is wider because of the 1.8x squeeze but I think the FOV seem pretty comparable, how does the 2 compare overall and specifically in Sharpness/CA? I'm personally drawn to the Variable Astigmatizer focusing but am on the fence due to Vazen's CA.
Great video, thank you!
Is that squeeze change to 1.25 also true for the other two Sirui anamorphic lenses (35 and 50mm), while being at close focus ?
Thank you! Yes, I show it on the 50mm video too, and have tested the 35mm as well, although didn't include it in the review.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget ok thanks, thats good to know!
Thanks so much for this! Would so love to get one. Do you need the Metabones EF speed booster adapter to use this lens on the Lumix S5?
The best bet to get this on the S5 is MTF Services in the UK, as they're making modifications for RF and L mount. Otherwise, here's why this lens won't work on an EF mount: czcams.com/video/mPzTzRd4_KQ/video.html
@@AnamorphicOnABudget really appreciate it - thank you so much!
Hey Tito! I have a kind of unrelated question and I'm not sure who to ask. I've been using the Sirui anamorphics on my A7SIII and I was wondering if there's a way to make the camera remember my clear image zoom settings? I'm really excited to use my 24mm but I really hope there's a way to avoid having to zoom every time! I don't want to use APSC mode because I can't shoot in 4k, but I had to do it a few times when I was in a rush.
Hey Ken! That was one of the most annoying things I had to deal with when using the A7s2. Clear Image Zoom is always wiped out when the camera shuts off. Based on your question I believe they didn't change this behavior in the A7s3. The best solution I found was to keep the camera on all the time and power it from external batteries that'll last way longer.
is there a way to get the 35mm to work on the Fuji X? Wondering why they did not release a FUji version for that lens.
Excellent question. I don't think so. :(
Another great video and thank you. However I don’t see a link to gear rings you mentioned in the video?
I had some finishing touches to do on them, but the link is up now! Just pick the 24mm from the dropdown!
anamorphic.e-junkie.com/product/1639633
Thank you very much and will do! Keep up the good work.
Dope review. Im looking forward to the oval bokeh as i just purchased the lens. I got your bokeh for the previous 2 lenses
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. Both of those BTS vignettes were shot deliciously, and I cannot get enough of them, damn!
Great review and information as always, Tito. Thank you for this. One question for you -- did you try the 24mm on your A7sii? I'm curious what the image circle would look like/what CIZ would be required to get a 2.39 crop.
I tried it on a Z-Cam F6, which is full frame, and the coverage was almost none past S35. :(
@@AnamorphicOnABudget What do you mean the coverage was almost none?
It covers S35 as expected, but it doesn't cover anything larger than that. Clear Image Zoom or a bigger sensor do not benefit this lens.
Yo Tito! I just ordered this to complete my Sirui Anamorphic Prime set. Something I've been wondering... Is it possible and/or practical to stack these lenses with something like the SLR Magic 1.33x adapter for some extra squeeze? Would that be a 1.66x ratio? I'd love to see you make a video exploring this.
Hey Kristian, I'd avoid that concept. The Anamorphot degrades image quality considerably, which Sirui is working hard to keep up. The resulting squeeze would be 1.77x. I'll add to my list to make an experiment stacking scopes. Mathieu Stern has done something similar before, if you wanna speed up your research.
I have the 50mm 1.6x and love it but I want something wider now but Sirui don't do a 24mm lens in that same series.
I also have the 1.25x adaptor, have you tried that on this lens to give 1.66x and, therefore, get closer to the 1.6x?
Just ordered the 35mm and I cannot wait to test it 😎
I just watched your video on why Sirui lenses can't be adapted to EF mount - but how about RF mount ? Is it possible ? Almost all adapters I have found is RF to everything not everything to RF
RF is possible, and MTF Services in the UK offer that conversion.
@8:27, can you explain your method to calculate the horizontal field of view? I don't get it. Thanks
Focal Length * Crop Factor / Squeeze Factor.
Dope dope footage Tito! I've got a question... Although this lens doesn't come with the "adapter rings" for another mounts.... is it possible to use the 35 ones on this or the 50 or both? if not... have you try out any m4/3 to sony E adapter? I've had bad experience with an F to EF adapter ring (too much play on it) so I was wondering if an adapter is worth it so I can get the m4/3 lenses for the most versatility
Thank you! Unfortunately you can't use the adapter rings from the 35 on the 24 nor the 50. There's screw holes missing. I haven't read of any good MFT to E adapter, they all have terrible reviews, so I'd steer clear.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget F*ck. Sirui had a million dollar idea but they flushed it down the toilet
So.. How hard to change the mount of this lens? Is it impossible. I have a sony camera and the bmpcc 4k. It would be nice to be able to switch from MFT to APS-C. Thanks!!
On this one, so far impossible. :(
I would be really interested in a video on the gh5 anamorphic settings. Especially the open gate utilizing the full sensor
That's coming up! :D
Is it good useing this for a gh5s for film ?
Thank you always for creating and sharing this type of content! I already have the 50mm and 35mm and ordered this 24mm to make the anamorphic set more complete. I agree with the hope of a longer future lens with a decent minimum focusing distance. I also ordered this lens to complete the set hoping they will all match closely in color. I haven't run the test yet between the 35mm and 50mm, but I guess I'll wait until I receive the 24mm and check it out. I'm not a great colorist and I find matching color in post production very tedious. It'll be nice to not worry about color matching between lenses.
Some other nuances to add to the MFT conversation: For the GH5s shooters, the sensor is actually larger than MFT. So if you choose to shoot in C4K mode instead of anamorphic, your crop factor is 1.8 and you should get ~32.5mm in your horizontal field of view. You do sacrifice some vertical real estate (i'm not sure what is the final effective field of view will be).
To commenters talking about not a special feel about this lens, I found when using a 0.64x focal reducer on my GH5s, my anamorfake'd Helios has practically the same frame width. So conceptually, one could make an equivalent anamorfake'd lens speedboosted to your favorite mirrorless camera. Personally, I'm interested in trying this out on vintage Nikon lenses, but haven't worked up the courage to buy a set to then subsequently mod. At least we know an expert on modding lenses 😎
Thank you for the long comment, Jon! And also very cool thinking with using C4K instead of regular 4K for some extra width in aspect ratio!
I'm always one for anamorfaking, so, I can't disagree with you on that! hahaha
We need a version of this lens in ef mount, i understand that the desing is diferent but all the users of bmpcc 6k cant use. :(
It's good to own 4K and 6K so you don't struggle like this.
can you tell me what adapter requires to use this lens on my ef mount camera zcam f6. Thank you
A miracle adapter. Just get the MFT mount for the Z-cam. It's about the same price of an adapter.
Here's why it won't work on EF: czcams.com/video/mPzTzRd4_KQ/video.html
@@AnamorphicOnABudget thank you
Awesome breakdown on 4/3. Great video sir
Thanks, man! :D
This is awesome! what movie are you guys working on !
I was just doing behind the scenes for the productions in my sister's class. :)
So besides the lens mount options this APS-C Sirui is an identical build, right? Could the mounts be easily switched with a third party one? Currently I'm working on M43, but I'm considering switching to another mount in 1-2 years without having to purchase a whole Sirui set again. Surely there must be some customizing options here? This concerns all 3 anamorphic lenses Sirui released so far.
Also, not quite sure which lens to start with. The 24mm would make sense for a MFT, being almost a portrait at 48mm, but too bad it has an almost distracting amount of blue flares. I love those every now and then, but if they are constant it moves into Abrams Star Trek territory.
I’m planing to get the 24 and 50mm for my GH5s. I l don’t really see much use in the 35mm on my GH5s since I’m more of a wide angle guy and I love the look I get with the SLR Magic 50 1.33 and my Veydra 25mm. I’m really exited to hear that you’re working on a cine ring solution.
just be aware, that this 24mm will be quite a lot (1.33x) wider than the veydra 25mm. Its image as wide as a spherical 18mm lens (though not as high, of course).
@@StephanWahlen The Veydra has a 1.33 anamorphic adapter attached.
I just bought a SLR Magic 21mm T1.6 spherical lens because I’ve noticed that 25mm is too tight for how close I want to be to the actors (I love spherical too).
With the 1.33 anamorphic: the 24mm would be my go to lens for most shots with the 50mm for close-ups. This is a generalization of course, some shots need long lenses and others wides. It’s just what feels right for most scenes for me.
I could even go for a 15mm 1.33 lens to be honest. I loved the way the 1.33 moondoglabs adapter looked on my iPhone 7 Plus.
I’m not a fan of being super close to the actors with very wide lenses tho. I like thinks to be somewhat “natural” looking.
Hard to judge the true focal length in full-frame on the z mount. I'd bite to use it on a b cam because the ultra-wide perspective would be nice, but those flares do not compliment my iscorama... Remarkable as usual!
Hello! If I have an anamorphic 24mm "mft" mount, which can be on sony body with M4/3 to NEX adapter?
No mirrorless mounts can be adapted to other mirrorless mounts. There just isn't enough room.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thank you for the reply.
The room you mentioned is a flange back?
Sirui 35mm or other anamorphic lens for aps-c are originally M4/3 mount. and another mount adapter ring is applied on the M4/3 mount ring. So I thought 24mm M4/3 mount anamorphic can be used on E mount with the ring adapter.
@@abcjjjun yeah, flange! I haven't found one of those adapters with good reviews, so I rather just say it's not a good idea.
Hello my friend!! Is it possible to have also this "VITAMIN A lut?
Looks like a good starting point!!
Thank you!!
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Question.
If I use a 50mm lens with 0.8x diy single focus unit, and a .71 speedbooster. Is my math work out correctly that it is effectively a 28mm focus length?
When you say "50mm" do you mean Sirui's 50mm, or a spherical 50mm? I ask because Sirui's 50mm won't be compatible with a focal reducer (speedbooster), and neither a sperical 50mm nor Sirui's 50mm won't need a single focus solution.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget sorry. I should have specified.
Spherical taking lens.
28mm focal length makes sense in this math, although I'm having a hard time figuring why you're adding a Single Focus solution to a spherical lens. :P
@@AnamorphicOnABudget hahahahaha.
I should have specified that I'm using it with a moller 32x2 scope, as well as an Isco ultra star. And I'll be experimenting this week with a 35mm tt artisan mft and the Moller as well. See how bad the vignetting is.
Shooting on a bmpcc 4k
Hey man, great channel btw, which of these lenses would you recommend for a BMPCC 6K?
Thank you! Unfortunately none of the Sirui lenses are compatible with the BMPCC6K.
Even using the EF-mount version? Would an adapter be good enough?
That's EF-M, for mirrorless Canon cameras. There are no such adapters as I explained here: czcams.com/video/mPzTzRd4_KQ/video.html
Oh great, thanks! I understand it now
The price dropped to $549, or so, at B&H! What annoys me is the flares though, and perhaps I could grab one of them and try my first anamorphic endeavors!
Yes please make a video about the focusing methods!
I'm editing it, and Members of the channel will get it about a month earlier than everyone else. :)
Now that seems a good addition to my 50/1.8 Nikkor+SLRMagic chunk. Only missing some for the Osmo Action, I guess. Tips on that?
And nice review.
There are some Osmo anamorphics on eBay, although I've never looked into them before.
I’m really interested in this lens as I have the 35 and 50 already. I use it with a GH5 and I still find the 35 too long in certain situations. I would love to see a field of view comparison of all three lenses on a mtf mount.
Also a quick question. One reason why I’m a bit hesitant to pull the trigger on the 24 mm, I’m not sure what camera system I’ll be using say, a year from now. If I decide to switch over to a Sony mirrorless , or a canon mirrorless, will I be able to adapt these lenses to those mounts? I know that these lenses only cover APS-c, but that’s fine. I’m just worried that I won’t be able to effectively adapt these micro 4/3 anamorphic lenses to a possible future Sony, or canon body.
Hey Ben! I can see the struggle about a change in camera systems. Sirui offers their lenses in E-mount too, so worst case it'll come to selling all the Siruis you have and buy them again in another mount. The flange for most mirrorless systems is pretty similar, so making adapters is quite tough.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Yeah, I watched your other video on adapters, and it explained it pretty well. But, I couldn't pass up on the early bird special, so went ahead and bought it!
Hopefully they will be amazing on the upcoming GH6 whenever it gets announced.
Thanks for the reply and the awesome content!
Hey there, maybe I'm just too excited about the new lens that I just ordered. But I can't find the link for the Focus and Aperture Gear ...
Best regards and thanks for the great video
Hey Martin, I didn't put them up yet! Just checking some tolerances first! :)
Keep an eye on the Community tab!
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Alright. I will be on the lookout ;-)
The link is up now! Just pick the 24mm from the dropdown!
anamorphic.e-junkie.com/product/1639633
@@AnamorphicOnABudget That's fantastic! Thx! I have just ordered the gears. Please be aware: PayPal mixed up my address a tiny bit and changed the order of street and number ;-)
Btw: I even asked Siriu for the circumference of the focus and the iris for the community in order to be able to start printing right away. But I prefer to order from you since it's much easier for me. Best wishes
Which Sirui lens do you think is the best out of the 3?
Depends on what your goal is. For me, and a lot of other folks, the 35mm gives you the most flexibility.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget nice, I was stuck between the 24mm and 35mm. Went with the 24mm got it today. Considering the 35mm too. Thanks bro!
Was going to order this lens but just heard your "it won't work in EF" ... even with an adapter? Couldnt find the video you mentioned too about the topic.
Yes, I updated the video with the link, but here it is too: czcams.com/video/mPzTzRd4_KQ/video.html
There's no adapter that could do the job.
So is the 24mm m43 equivalent as in 12mm? or is it standard as in 24mm? (25mm m43 equivalent)
A 24mm is a 24mm. On MFT crop, it's equivalent to a 48mm on Full Frame, or 36mm on APS-C. But because of the anamorphic compression, that value is divided by 1.33.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thanks. That's what I kinda figured. So the 24mm is 50mm full-frame equivalent so it's not that wide. Maybe because I consider 9mm-24mm full-frame FOV wide lenses. Unless I am misunderstanding it all.
nice review!
Great man!
I orderd this lens today and i cant wait😁
Where can i find a follow Focus Ring for the 24mm Lens?
Thx my friend and cinematic Greetings from Germany 😎🙏🏼🎬
You should look into getting a Tilta Seamless follow focus ring! They’re literally 2 bucks on B&H
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Thank u so much! 😁🙏🏼🎬
If you're still considering the 3d printed rings, I just put the link in the description and it's here too. Just pick the 24mm from the dropdown!
anamorphic.e-junkie.com/product/1639633
@@AnamorphicOnABudget okay thank you so much. Cant wait for your Next Video.
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I saw it has some distortion, also I hoped for a 1.8. But a great lens none the less
Maaaaan, listen...
I absolutely cannot understand how Sirui makes these lenses for so cheap.
What an amazing, welcome technical disruption!
Looking forward to adding this 24mm to my 35mm and 50mm lens set.
If they could just hurry up and release that 85mm tho...
The miracle of modern Chinese manufacturing.
@@ShowsOn FRFR
Amazing achievement for the price. I'll be buying. If they did a full frame version in M42 mount, it would blow up!
Oh it would. But the added distance from the sensor would make the price hard to freeze. :P
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Really? Can't cost too much more, surely?
It surely does. :(
The footage looks really great. I was using the 35mm on my S5, (the original) and I loved it, but I sold it because I needed some other spherical lenses for a film I'm working on, but once I'm done, I'm gonna buy it again, although I'm wondering if the 24mm would be better to pair with the 50. I'm either gonna get the 35 and the 75 or the 24 and the 50. No matter what, I know they look really beautiful, and I know I'll have great coverage either way. Or........... maybe the full frame lenses??????? Probably gonna save that money and stay with the APS-C lenses to be able to have two instead of just one. APS-C mode on the S5 is so good! Thanks for the great content, as always.
I find the 35-75 combo better than the 24-50 option. :)
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Since I already used the 35 and know what it looks like on my camera, I'll probably go that way. Thanks! and always looking forward to your videos.
10:10 is that “Anamorphic mump” or something?
Nice and detailed video as always!
Perfect use of the term! Yes, that's what shows mumps!
Nice. I want 17mm for MFT with gears and 77mm filter thread.
So after the squeze, shouldnt be the picture, when filmed in 4k be sharper than with normal not squezed 4k 🤔
So the pixels was taken normal and the squeze let them come close = sharper picture... or am i wrong? 😅🎥
hope they make an RF mount
I second that.
I'm excited for suri to eventually make full frame lenses. I just don't see the benefits of anamorphic if I'm forced to crop to apsc on my full frame camera.. If I'm forced to crop then at least have the lens be 2x to make up for it.
All in all these lenses are very tempting, just not there yet for me.
Thankyou! I thought my lens was faulty, 1.25x not 1.33x 😂
Well well! Bug or feature? hahaha :)
My question is why as an anamorphic reviewer are your videos in 16x9?
Hahahaha fair enough. CZcams doesn't support End Screens for videos in other aspect ratios. BUT, I've switched over to widescreen reviews and videos and will continue the trend moving forward. ;)
highly recommend S35 cameras to work with these lenses, Sirui defines this series for "M43" cameras, so does Vazen! they made the image circle clearly s35, but tell people to use it as M43, because they want u to use the middle of the glass, so the sharpness could go up~~~i personally feel anamorphic lenses have nothing to do with sharpness except that failed Zeiss master anamorphic lol, the edge of the anamorphic glass is where the charm at: strong distortion, edge blur, coma and some vertical and horizontal bokeh cutoff if the front glass is square, also wider!!!
1:41 Gahh!!! A matte box without a bellows or any filters, shooting indoors.
I live for comments like these! hahahaha! Thank you!
12mm is the wide were all looking for if you have 4/3 mounts.
Not feeling the blue flare...
Yeah. Too much, and not very "pretty"
I would absolutely love it if they made a 14mm even if they had to hike the prices up a bit as that would make an incredible experience to behold
Wow, 14mm is wild. I don't super see the point of anamorphic when going this wide. Bokeh gets lost and there isn't a lot to begin with. :(
hopefully they make an 8mm and 12mm
Do i get away with using a 0.71 Speedbooster with this Lens and a MFT Camera?
No, this lens is already for a short flange distance, you can't fit a speedbooster behind any of them.
Besides the flares I can hardly tell it's an anamorphic lens... To me the anamorphic look is mainly oval bokeh and barrel distortion not just blue flares.
Which anamorfic lenses are than for you?
it's good but for me its flare proneness is a no
#AskMeAnamorphic u have a new follower. Awesome videos. I assume we can use the lens for street photography as well. Your opinion please. All i see is videos.
Glad you joined us! You can definitely take photos with it! But anamorphic has been a video thing for the longest time, hence the intense focus on video use. :)
Thank you for the reply ❤️👍. Guess I will have to buy it and try it in the street with my Olympus.
5:27 Matt Workman cameo? lol jk
Hahahah! Maybe Mark will get there one day!
the lens flare looks like blue tape
I won't disagree. hahaha
The flares aren't really cool
Generally, the look of it doesn't feel really special :/
Flares look really bad... inorganic and fake looking...
They might look like that because there are a lot of artificial lights on this footage, it should be more subtle with natural lighting.
I dont like the flare too...
Full frame glass next please. :)
1.3 isn't wide enough to be worth it. If they did at least 1.6/1.8, then I would bite lol. Also really wish they would tone down the ultra saturated blue flaring, that wide angle didn't even look usable with those flares.
But why do all the videos look out of focus?
uhhh what?
Creo que no es buena idea grabar un detrás de camara con un lente anamorfico
Flares on 24mm too distracting ruining the shot in my opinion. I'll stick with my 35mm wait for 85mm for the bokeh
Makes sense. It is very flary.
don't fret, no one has been able to pronounce the name for years.
Bro,you need some weight gainer👀💪🏻
100%!
It's a very bad user experience when the content creators don't know how to use fade in/fade out the sound. Starting out a video with BIG BANG MUSIC is very amateur-ish and annoying and kills the vibe for the whole video. You'll never see pro-level CZcamsrs do that, even ones that don't specialize in shooting videos.
Are you mad because you forgot sound was maxed out, and it woke up your s.o.? :P
In any case, note taken, thank you!
@@AnamorphicOnABudget If you are on headphones and you just listened to some music or even if you are on speakers is just annoying and not well thought out!
Every CZcamsr has different sound levels but most of the pro's are using universal LUFS standard (a TV sound levels standard)
Switching from a random video to your video with so much pumped out music without any warning is indeed a very unpleasant experience :)
You're right. I just got surprised by it twice loading it by accident. Something to avoid repeating on future videos.