Stihl MS 462 (ported) vs Husqvarna 572xp (ported)
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Quick rematch in dry hard beech between these two new 70cc class saws. Both are woodsported with 8pin rim, same bar and hand filed Stihl 3/8 RSC chain. These saws are dead even in terms of power after porting. It just depends on personal preferences which saw you choose. Yes, the Stihl is 600g lighter, thats a big difference but the Husqvarna has the bigger bearings and bottom end, maybe better for long bar setups over time.
So they're pretty even. Nice to see a good comparison, and someone that knows how to run a saw properly for this type of comparison.
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@@Dechsi87 nice vidéo, super boulot
I will second that that is how a saw comparison should be done
Stihl is best. The Stihl still won even after using the more used up chain.
@@TTundragrizzly the Husqvarna also made a 22.8 cut. The Stihl had over 23 on one. They practically tied.
I just know 1 thing.....I would happily take either one. Good job on both. Great vid ! They are both beasts
I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle czcams.com/users/postUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.
I think they both are good saws. I own a 394XP and a 21R weed eater both run great, not sure on the age of the 394 but I bought the whacker in 1990 and it has taken care of the farm and three rental houses been in shop once. Sold on Husky.
Nice video!
I like to buy local if possible from smaller shops as opposed to chain stores. Where I got my 462 is from a small shop with two old guys like myself that have the time to talk about what they’re selling and they sell Stihl exclusively. For bucking firewood I really love my Stihl saws and I appreciate the weight savings with the Stihl saws as well.
So the two old guys have this small shop and both actually work on saws and have for many years, not a young kid who has no real practical knowledge about what he is selling for the most part. I bought a 261 from them and liked it enough that I bought a second one as a wedding gift, the couple had a Husqvarna home owners saw on their wish list. So instead of the bottom end saw I got them all lined out with safety chaps, gas can, a six pack of oil for the extended warranty, storage box, files, two extra chains and a professional grade saw. I had the old guys switch it over to 3/8ths and a 20 inch bar too. At the wedding I just put an envelope with the receipt in it and a note on the gift table so all they needed to do was just go pick it up and get the lowdown from the two old guys. I never heard back from the couple, thank you kiss my ass nothin. I guess they didn’t like it or I liked them a lot more than they liked me, oh well. The two old guys will never forget me though. :)
So then I call the two old guys up and told them I was wanting a 462, you bet they remembered me. They told me they had only one left so I asked them to put my name on it and I went over and picked it up the next day. You go to one of these big box stores you never see the same guy twice. I know without a doubt that if I ever need any help with my saws I got two old very experienced guys who will remember me and help me out.
Good to see someone use the same bar and chain really gets me people using a worn out chain to a newer one and compare two saws this test was spot on
Yeah.... or a bone stock brand new saw not broke in vs a ported and muffler modded hyposaw....
Was in red lake building a powerline in minus 30 everyday, husqs had no issues running the sthils had to have been warming up for them to start, husqs would cold start no problem
Been hearing that about the 500 I as well
😊😊😊😊😊🎉😂
It's a little "old school" trick from the days when saws were ALL magnesium and a giant heat sink but one way to get past that is to put a small squirt of gas into the intake. It never hurts to keep a small syringe in the work tools to do just that for when the weather is terrible. More than a cc or 2 will flood it but it'll pop off most of the time.
I don't care how many versus videos I seen I still love watching them
They are even. I would choose the lighter saw.
That would be the Stihl. It's 1.5 lbs lighter than the Husky.
I love how lightweight the 462 is. I was window shopping at my Stihl dealer. Have not had a chance on the 572. Only way is to special order the Husky at my local dealer. They dont have any demo models and won't be carrying them anytime soon. The 462 will be my next saw!
Recently got myself a 462. All i can say is just get it. Alot lighter than my 066 and does just as good a job.
Stihl please. When you buy a Stihl the store always fuels up the saw and oils it and then starts it in front of you. Very impressive. Will always buy Stihl for that reason and of course they produce a quality product.
3Vimages lol, if you are lucky enough to have a exceptional dealer... I have two Stihl dealers 5 miles from my house, and both are incompetent, and charge ridiculous prices on service.
I buy Stihl and Huskys, but I do my own service.
Ok ….. well I live in France and evidently every stockist here is required to run the machine for clients. Maybe it is just a Europe thing. @@Timijim
Thats rite they do that i got a MS 461 with a 25" bar on it i mite get another one they will squat down and get down to it they Run like a Deere my 2 favorite brands
John Deere and Stihl
I just bought a 572 from my local dealer in Myrtle Creek Oregon and he filled it with gas and oil and cranked it up for me. Has nothing to do with Stihl, it's all about the dealer!
25yrs of using stihl daily up to 15 different saws.I am sick of being the guinea pig and sorting out problems that should of been solved before a saws release.The 201t and 661 debacle now I have a one week old 462 with a control unit being replaced.Stihl sort your shit out.
What happened with the 661? I have one and have had no issues as of yet but it's a low hour saw.
Finally I found a chainsaw comparison as I want. Good work! ;)
an which model did you buy?
That 462 sounds awesome
But sometimes its the little things in life. Like a cover that holds the bar nuts for you!!
Great comparison video!!! Both of those are screamers!! I'd be more than happy with either one of those lol. Thanks for the video!
Stihl just won't out cut a husqvarna
Well done, great review, either saw's a winner. I've got 3 old MS 460's ... I put a barker box on 1 ... then put on my best square ground chain and scared the heck out of myself .. It would eat my 660. That saw is 40% faster than my other old round filed machine. I know its a pain but if you cut a lot of wood it's a game changer getting a Simongton 451C and learning how to file square ground.
best comparasion test on you tube
Cool that bars interchange. Slots use to be wide on stihl. Hate buying different bars when uhave stihls and huskys
love the blurb at the end of the video clears up the difference for sure thanks .great job on all your videos.
Great running saws.That 7900 would still eat them alive ... that things is a ringing beast
He did eat them...ported dolmar 7900 had 17 sec.😄
Muffler mod 7900 21.8 sec
@@dolmar7844 Solo 681 stock 20.1 sec 😄
@@bazen44 yes ...solo 681 80.7ccm(4.7kw) stock....dolmar7900 78.5ccm(4.3kw) stock ...they are boath good saws and they can easy compeare with stihl and husqvarna
2 great saws cant go wrong with either one, for me I go with stihl
Man those cookies look like they were cut with a laser 😎
Good vid but it would be nice to see each saw have a brand new chain out of the box and each saw run there own equipment bar and chain etc. !
572 nice sound
There both nice saws I'd be happy with either one
and I must say there much quicker than my 72" cross cut (2 man) saw.
Tks 4 the vid
#thatisall
Ноздря в ноздрю,класні i Hus, i Stihl
a fair test
I wish you could do this as a side by side with the time synchronized. Stihl audio on left speaker channel, Husqvarna on the Right.
and a pro dj mixing the sounds hahah :)
Lmao
Ouch.
If that was a cold saw at the start of the video, and it sure sounded cold, revving it full throttle 5 seconds after starting and going full power into big wood less than 20 seconds later is... well, abusive, in my opinion.
Otherwise, well done, especially using the same bar and chain.
I think the Husky is 71 cc's versus the Stihl's 77, and that would be an impressive showing for the Swede.
Outstanding review. No BS here at all. Well done. 👍
Hey Dech, do you have a personal favorite between these two?
Good video . No bull just the simple basic facts .
They both run damn good, and you handle them well.
Just a little port work and muffler mod?
Squish/base cut on both, woodsported and muffler modded
Excellent demonstration for comparing these excellent saws. Stihl seems slightly better and is a slightly lighter saw. What I don't understand is what does porting do to the engine and why would you alter the factory setting?
Xtra performance . I live at 450 500 feet. Every saw I ever bought has to be adjusted to run well at my altitude.
Bigger ports mean More air and fuel = more power. Factory anything has room for improvement.
i bought a 462 as i knew someone and was able to get it for 900 i have a 562 husky and a 390 i have 15 gallons of gas through my 462 and so far so good.
Хорошее видео, пасиб за тест )
Like I figured. Probably minor design differences other than that same saw.
I run the 572’ have better service here. Everything I run is husky! Used to run Stihl, hard to get parts now. I like them both!
What saw do you find yourself preferring?
Nice work, detailed times in comparison, good deal!
Sthil 462 💪
God that Husk sounds awesome🤘
How long do ported chainsaws last ? Do they have a shorten live spans and do they either blow up and seize up ?
If a quality job was done and ports balanced it should run longer barring any other factors that can significantly shorten the life of a 2 stroke engine. The engine runs cooler and more efficiently with more oil mixed gas passing through the system per rpm keeping it well lubed also.
I’ve cut timber 20 plus years , I’ve used both and husky hands down tougher , faster , lighter and A LOT LESS vibration to hands
That Stihl is 1.5 lbs lighter than the Husky.
@@wcm68tn but not as durable
Can't go wrong with either to be honest I have stihl and Husqvarna
Stihl won
i thing huqsvarna 572 is one of the best huqsvarna chainsaw, i prefer this from stihl 462
for long hours of work BUT I THIS BOTH COMPANY have exalent chainsaw ,IN SOME CATEGORIES STIHL have better chainsaw, in some huqsvarna
I rather take something with a bigger bottom end in it and and that. so you know it will handle the power.
as a technician there are alot more crank bearing failures with 572xp than MS 462. it may have bigger bottom end but the quality of bearings are trash.
@@PERPARSON where when? Never even heard of such a thing.
great video man. :) well done!
Thanks ;)
Mal eine Frage: Muss man das AutoTune ebenfalls komplett neu einstellen über einen Computer oder regelt sich das nach dem Porten von selbst richtig ein? Beim Vergaser ist es ja, mit dem richtigen Wissen, relativ einfach aber beim AutoTune stelle ich mir das schwieriger vor wenn es sich nicht von selbst komplett neu einstellt. Ich würde mal grob behaupten, dass das AutoTune seine Grenzen hat, daher meine Frage.
Regelt sich selbst wieder ein. Gab bisher noch nie Probleme, seit etlichen Jahren und Autotune v1.0 in der 576xp. Ist ja auch keine Hot Saw Modifikation, da sieht es schon wieder etwas anders aus, sondern eine optimierte, voll arbeitstaugliche Säge.
Als Hot Saw wäre es was anderes, klar aber beim Woodsporting regelt es sich komplett von alleine? Sehr cool, hätte ich nicht erwartet. Dachte es würde sich nur im Rahmen eines Muffler Mods nachstellen. Ich habe dem AutoTune nicht so viel zugetraut. Allerdings würde ich mir nicht zutrauen, die Grenze beim Porten zu finden zwischen „läuft ohne Probleme“ zu „jetzt wars dann doch zu viel“. Traue mich nicht mal einen Muffler Mod zu machen an meiner 550 XP M2... 🤭
Danke für die Antwort.
Eine letzte Frage zu deiner Person: Kommst du aus dem Saarländischen Raum? Dort gibt es auch einen der sich sehr mit Kettensägen beschäftigt und auch Portet.
Do a video of those two vs the 7900
basically you can compare the cut times with the 7900 video, it's the same bar, chain, sprocket and piece of wood ;) but i will do a shoot out cut with all the videos soon.
Very good comparison, I'm sure either one of these saws will be a good investment
B
yes. A comparsion to the "old" Dolmar 7900 would be nice. Please!
@@anna-lenablomkvist33 ported dolmar 7900 17.8 sec...muffler mod 7900 21.8 sec...dolmar wins😄
Throw a 32” bar and see who walks away.. 572- 39mm stroke will walk away with a long bar
MRP
Excellent comparison!!!!!
amadoua sunt bune....super tare merita ...
Should come down to wich one last longer. Longer lifetime wins?
longer lifetime in a ported saw? Isn't that a contradiction?
I believe he is talking about which brand will go the distance off the shelf.
In Australia they have used the 462 professionally in our hardwoods for 2 years not one problem with durability
@@garryaylward8050 yeah, but who ported it and how? If you gonna use it professionally, you should have somebody (wood)-port it (if at all) professionally too...
Could get a ported 461 vs 572 they weight close to the same... 461 more cc but the weight.... 462 in this segment vs other saws that weigh the same is no contest
They are pretty close, the only difference is one is mostly made in PRC and the other one in Sweden.
Stihls Pro lineup is exclusively made in Germany
@@DialektLp actually no, I have done a ton of research, depending on what market they are selling them at, mostly made in China, some in the US...
How much blow down on the 572 stock?
And ported?
Who cares lol!! Let's cut exhaust roof and compression goes down lol!! Why not just increase the port time area and keep compression up and still turn 14k out of wood and 12k in wood and have o broad power band!! Or cut roof to turn 14k out of wood and 10.5k in wood with like 120psi compression and narrow powerband!! Talking work saw pulling 24" bar in 24" wood!! You want to cut 12" softwood cookies with 16" bar thats different story!!
@@steppoffaith8426 how many have you done like that?
Got a video of one?
File down the rakes about 3/32 of an inch and hold on. You will tear it up
Basically the Stihl is lighter and slightly more powerful. The Husqvarna is built with more longevity in mind but gains a pound and has a little less power. Id take both, 18” on the Stihl and use it for in tree saw, 20” on Husky use it for a ground saw with my 25” 661c
You talk about longevity regarding husqvarna and no for the stihl.Well that’s bull l have a friend who’s got a 462cm he’s got 230hrs up on it not one issue in anyway still going strong. The fact is the stihl is an advanced design the husqvarna not so
@@garryaylward8050 3 years on my 572 logging. No issues.
@@austindenotter19 how many hours are on it?
@@garryaylward8050 i have seen a 572 with 1000 hours on it
Outstanding .
I would like to buy a 462 but my dad won’t let me because he doesn’t like supporting companies that are wholly owned by one rich family. He also won’t let me shop at Aldi for the same reason.
I've not ported either yet
572 timed like a 562?
Same cylinder design?
Real short blow down?
Hi, what do you mean for "ported"?
Thanks from italy
Mario Massari I dont even know what it is..
Ive been googling A bit and,it looks Like porting is A kind of tuning of engine to make it stronger..
Porting involves removing excess material in the engines ports. It doesn't always mean making it bigger. It can be as simple as removing casting flash leftover from manufacturing. The most common is to "clean up " the ports. But the port shape, size an position will change engine characteristics. Typically this involves using a die grinder to do the work or air dremel( think dentist drill) in the tight spots. However this is not a 1 STEP process, more air means more fuel, means more exhaust gases. So the whole system has to be tuned, carb,ports,pipe to utilize the new found air flow. Sorry if i confused you but i tried to explain.
The real question is which one will last longer? ( under the same conditions)
I always go with the heavier crankshaft and heavier bearings. Which the husky has. Been logging with mine for three years not one issue.
What do you mean by ported. You changed the exhaust ports?
Work on the cylinder (all ports), machining the squish band and cylinder base on a lathe, ignition and muffler mod 😉
I worked all day with a stick saw for years .all this porting does is take away what little power they have in the low end .The noise sucks and you get caught in Oregon is a 1000 dollars ticket every time other than that it's a cool video
Good for oregon glad I live in NC
462 won !
What is the lengh of guide bar? 20" or more?
25", like you can see in the description at the beginning of the video 😉
Я вчера купил 462!!!
What saw has the fewest Chinese parts that’s the saw I will buy
The Stihl. Their pro line is German or US made, depending if you live in Europe or USA. But you can hunt for "Made in Germany" saws in US too.
Штиль в руках никогда не держал,и не хочу... никогда не был хороший пилой, раньше делали немцы у которых 1.5 га леса было,а сейчас делают китайцы от которых нельзя даже иголку покупать.....
Good work.
Poulan would beat them both lol
Sthil le meilleur N 1
Bravo Stihl 👏👏👍👍
Very fast finger on the accelerator
Ahhhh .... these gloves 😎 ....
How much did they gain from porting?
Which saw gains the most from porting?
I'm still new to these two, i had not much time, customers needed them for work. I got around 22% percent on both, they're pretty even powerwise, but the 462 is a tad faster, but the 572 has stronger bottom end (crank, rod, bearings) it will easily take on a jug with 80cc or more if husqvarna decides to do 580xp or something in the future.
Yep , yes sir. Ford vrs Chevy.
Nice‼Nice‼Nice♥
Молодец, очень познавательный ролик, лайк.
So the 572 and 462 take the same bar
Yes, with an adapter 😉
porque montas la misma barra si el anclaje de stihl es distinto al de la husq, los esparragos de fijacion son mas gruesos los de la stihl-
El Husqvarna tiene un adaptador para Stihl. Tu ves en el video
@@Dechsi87 es mejor máquina husq. Que stihl las stihl nuevas. Dan muchos problemas. Carteres q. Se estropean gripazos etc.
🌲🌲🇧🇷🇧🇷👊👊 MS462👍👍
You don't use the felling dogs to lever the saw through?
Its impossible to replicate the same pressure on each saw when you lever, self feeding cuts with a bigger sprocket are the most precise way to measure the saw ;)
@@Dechsi87 Thank you.
Good 👍
What did you do with chainsaw comparison with stock chainsaws? I'm just going to go and buy a chainsaw. I'm not going to Port it or anyting.
I took the stock comparison down. To much hating about the new out of the box chain. I port chainsaw mostly for commercial users, all day work saws, so I do videos with them. Maybe I will do another stock comparison in the future if I have the possibility to get both saws at the same time.
572 5.4 up and 462 6.0 hp
the 572xp has 4.3kw stock wich is 5.9hp, not 5,4. Both saw's in the video are woodsported with a squish/base cut and a mufflermod, so they got a noticeable amount of extra power ;)
Deutsch?
Ja ;)
Oh das ist schön zu hören :)
Hallo was hast du denn genau verändert an der 462? Mfg Timo
Service after the sale...
Same chain not equal
nice video
462👊👊👊👊
nice video :)
Servus Stephan hätte mehr sägen zum porten
No now tell the truth 572 and 441 all same class
Maybe not correct. After two cuts, the string is different. It should also be cut in Stihl and the time would be better.
What is different?
@@Dechsi87 In order to be fully fer, a chain should be cut to Stihl. It has been used twice in Husqvarna DD