"How OFF can you be?!" with special guest uThermal | Rank Roulette
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- After some HEAVY improvement in the seconds episode of Rank Roulette the fall can be all the more deeper. What are those replays?!
Don't forget to like this TERRIBLE episode, if you still want us to continue!
And of course go ahead and let me know your vote for Harstem against the World again! Vote here: forms.gle/AUwvjpX8DbYdaELv5
Also of course a BIG thanks to @uThermal , who was an AMAZING third guest at Rank Roulette! Check him out and leave some follows, likes and maybe even something delicious to eat for him:
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0:00 Intro
0:05 What is Rank Roulette?
0:51 Meet the participants!
1:13 Round 1
5:05 Round 2
8:55 Round 3
11:38 Round 4
15:47 Round 5
20:32 What is Harstem against the World?
20:38 Harstem against the World Round 3
#harstem #uThermal #StarCraft2 - Hry
Thanks again to today's guest uThermal! Leave him some love:
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Also this comment now becomes a STRONG spoiler, so finish the video first!
In case you are confused on the points received in the 5th round today, I probably should explain that we capped the possible points per round at 7!
Stay safe my little spoiled karaks!
How is this comment was posted 2 hours ago if the video just came out?
@@jor1456 CZcams logic
Hastrem, headed to Sweden to visit family from US. Where are you? Let me your first noob fanboy guest. Lol
Just... wow... I'm Aluminium 3 and I could beat some of them >.
@@sranubus I am wood 3
I don't like silver leaguers anymore
googleing the escherichiaC guy shows him in gold 2 league btw: www.rankedftw.com/player/3181684/
Most silvers are good at one thing, sometimes two. So they can look like pros in that small sliver of the game, while not really being good at any of the rest. That's my take anyhow.
@@br8twurst Some of the replays are pretty old and I have to take their rank at the according time obviously :)
Neither of you looked at just how much they were banking XD
@@hamster_designs oh yes makes sense :)
This was not meant as a hit towards you and your work of course btw!
you're doing an amazing job with this show
Mom im on kamera !! im sry harstem not doing that blink again :/
Great job on master 3, godlike
I'm also famous now, I'm the Escherichia guy omegalul!
@ We love you, keep improving and stay safe
"The only Terran that name himself after Protoss uprade."
Love that line.
“This was Europe. Europe is a region where the players actually know how to press the buttons”. - best part
Let me guess, you're European and jealous you don't live in the world's super power, like the rest of the European countries, so you guys stay taking jabs at the U.S and circle jerk over little comments like the one you stated because it makes you all warm and fussy and masks your insecurities. It's ok, I'd be jealous if I wasn't living in the country that dictates how to run yours, too. That's with an orange bofoon in office, too! Ouch!
@@kevinb.3656 lol that sounds like a copypasta.
@@FPMHamma ha, but it was still pretty sharp.... i mean in today's world how many people are there, that are pushing for communism/socialism, work for a boss (instead of be your own), and are more involved in social nonsense ( also known as phones, and feminism) than they are in nature.... war is coming to this world... that's for certain....
Lol. I’m in Kansas City, MO. It’s just funny because it’s true. Not sure why you’re so butt hurt by it.
I think there is merit to what Jaykayrq said..... seemed like he was ready to go with the comment.... People are pretty easy to offend these days.... can't say nothing to no one....
"He's silver and he has units that make sense! How can this be?" It's very entertaining to what ideas they have about lower leagues. Can wait to watch the next episode!
To be fair, I play gold 1 and the people I play against use voidrays vs hydras
StarCraft Team: we are not doing cool stuff anymore
Harstem: Hold my Beer!
Harstem our hero!
The "how is this silver" moment is the embodiment of silver players watching replays of plats and golds on CZcams and commenting, "how are these guys gold or plat, I'm silver and am way better than these guys."
That's why it's unfair that they don't show the bases or macro of the game. Anyone can learn battle control from custom maps.
The most pog collaboration in SC2 history
This is now the thing I await every week with maximum eagerness. I love so much!!! Hope to see other pro players (we can dream about Serral haha)
Only 2 more scores like this and I'll see you in the finale ;)
(x) Doubt
We need a Harstem reacts to Bronze league heroes series. I want to see his reaction to actual bronze so bad.
Bronze league doesn’t really exist anymore tho if you watch winters blh a lot of it is people faking it these days
@@michealjaymurphy I can tell you that there’s still bronze players.
I’m one of them but Blizzard didn’t fix MMR so I’m stuck in silver
He'd quit SC2.
@@Kilesfactor Please send replays to this show
@@PotatoMussab A'ight bet.
Personally, as an American, I understand where the below-average NA meme comes from- that stereotype is more often than not, true.
So I would say your fine discharging a few jabs at NA, especially Americans! Goodstuff!
Both players floating like 5-6k+ mins at that game w/ supply block should be a bit of a giveaway XD.
We need Beastyqt on here. It would be interesting to see if his experience against so many lower league players would help :). Also that first gold leaguer really let down NA's reputation, and that's really hard to do.
I’m willing to bet beasty will be a guess
Beauty knows the Craic
That 'gold' player probably does that same cheese every match and has their MMR inflated because it is a noob crusher strat
The simple fact the person knows how to stack units makes them unilligble for Bronze. Bronze players are those who dont know their unit and dont know what to do at all. When you see a real bronze players, there will be no doubt in your mind
There are people in the lower leagues that play at a much higher MMR than you'd expect in NA.
They just only know one or two builds and how to execute them perfectly...but if you throw some cheese their way or do something they weren't expecting and they crumble because they try to over compensate.
That silver player was probably one of those people who knows how to execute the early game perfectly and has good micro and skills, but the second the opponent does something different than expected and they don't know what to do and float way to many minerals to try and react
Tbf we really don't know how to press buttons in America. Hell I had to have help typing this out
This is great! I love this format please keep it up. Also I just learned about this today, CZcams recommendations suck. The clip at the end is Gold 2 btw.
I think the Zerg's lack of reaction to getting his brood lords attacked in round 5 kinda gave away that this couldn't possibly be higher than gold at least. That said the first worker rush being as high as it was is pretty unbelievable lol
The APMs were also visible, at one point during the base race the Protoss has 0 APM and the Zerg had like 30.
Also there was a clear moment where the Protoss used f2 moving 2 stalkers away from the natural, which is a small tell of lower levels. (Using f2)
@@bendunko1904 Those aren't tells though. When stalkers blinked under broods, it was gg, no micro could save him. Further, its a base-trade scenario, players might just be actively thinking about what they are supposed to do because there isnt a lot of mechanics required, its more about decisions. You actually see at one point in time zerg had +200 APM. 0% chance this is actually silver.
@@Raiseren he coulda flown away with the corrupters though, Instead he parked them right over the stalkers and archons.
The 7 workers and huge resource float immediately put them at low gold for me. Also the lack of Tempest against so many broodlords and corruptors.
9:42 = Harstem not feeling too well XD
This is currently my favorite CZcams series. Smashing the Like button
Welcome to variance. No real classifier could optimally predict this. Part of the fun.
Silver reactions were gold.
winter would probably dominate this game cus he somehow guesses all the angry coach replays rank correctly
This Video made my day :D
great content and a great personality!!!
I feel a little cheated on the silver game lol a big part of being able to determine leagues is how well they macro
I think the eraly game is a better indicator of skill.
There are plenty of silver leaguers that know how to klick on the worker-button, but they loose to any attack. It is way more important to have gameplan and to be prepared for all the silly onebase all-ins. I think I moved up almost a full league when I learned how to build a proper wall vs zerg.
Oh hey I'm subbed to you lol
This is series is the highlight of my week.. I really look forward to the skill that is displayed here..
that silver reveal made me gasp out loud!
i havent played SC2 for over 5 years and i was high silver when i stoppped, ladder anxiety was too much. theres no way i was that good! im starting to get back into the game and trying to copy the "Supply challenge" builds as much as possible.
the first episode i thought i was quite good at guessing, i tended to get the right overall league but the wrong 1,2,3. Or be one league out (guessing diamond 3 when its plat 1) silver guy is making me re evaluate my abilities on so many levels
When you legit feel like you're watching your own replays.... its astonishing how they have no clue about lower league games
Honestly that PvT was eerily close to a match I had against a diamond player even though I am in a lower league...I just remember them losing like 200+ mmr while I only gained like 40.
Same deal too. Double raven into their third expo with a marine marauder ball disrupting their colossi.
Harstem, don't ever invite Winter for this challenge. He's gonna wreck you awfully.
Or lowko
yeah but Winter gets paid to watch and critique metal league games all the time.
This challenge was way harder than the two before - I'm sorry for uThermal!
Avengers: finale is the most ambitious crossover
Me:
That last one was so evil by the editor. Just starting a game 10 minutes in with a base trade and no army engagements at all.
I love this series, you are such an awesome content creator!!!
I feel personally attacked whenever an NA joke is made. That being said, I hope Harstem makes enough ad revenue to move out of the bathroom.
sick burn! well luckily the bathroom sink is close for him to apply cold water to the burned area
My best one so far at 8 total. Love this series
These are so good .. I am constantly laughing :D
This is so much fun, good job Harstem :)
This is by far my favorite show on you tube right now :)
The look on Harstem's face when his cam froze. 😆
The first one clearly wasn't bronze to me because worker stacking is an "advanced" concept that they wouldn't really learn unless they looked up stuff outside the game, and if you're looking up guides, it often means you have enough knowledge and practice to break into Silver/Gold. Also, I suspected Gold 3 for the late game PvZ that neither of them could believe was Silver. You could tell it was much lower than Diamond/Plat because of the poor attention to minimap and the APM of the players being so low. They didn't know what to do in that late game base trade situation, where as a Plat/Diamond player would have some semblance of understanding the next moves they need to make and would be spending their actions. Lastly, what this episode showed me is that the gap from Diamond 3 to Masters 3 isn't as big of a mechanics gap as Master 3 to Masters 1, so much as it is the execution of the strategy and micro skills to start separating players based on that skill.
I love this show! I'm just laughing the entire time.
great vid as always mate :)
As an American, I highly appreciate the newb NA humor 😹
We Americans love you too Harstem/uthermal, and trust me, we know we have a lot of... interesting players.
My fav show in the StarCraft scene. Harstem please we need more!
I see first 10 seconds of the video.
A huge smile appears on my face.
Thank you very much Mr Harstem for my daily dose of dopamine!
In this video you see the greatest starcraft player in the Netherlands and uthermal
I like how uThermal was casually given only 7 points for that last guess instead of the 9 he deserved. Somebody's trying to make it harder for Harstem ;)
So im not going mental, gosh, thank u. I noticed they both got 7 points each and im like wtf can my sleep deprived brain not subtract anymore or what? How can they get the same number of points if they voted differently.
I even checked the end scoreboard to check if that's 16 for sure or was it fixed to 18
this series is comic, so great to watch, so much funny moments.
I was actually thinking this week might be uThermal!
18 minutes, both players have 6k/6k in the bank, base trade where both sides are nowhere near maxed out, both have awful army compositions, has to be like silver or gold.
"Well, must be diamond" lol
Best terrible show ever! Can't wait for the next episode. Good job Hershstream!
This is the best competition ever.
I'm not surprised the Zerg at the end wasn't high or even mid-ranked. That lack of micro of his corruptors/broodlords to the archon/stalker force was extremely bad.
I knew that silver one was super low, the guy had huge broods and corruptors and no ground and he didn't even move his corrupters at all he just let them get wiped out by archons. The silverness was obvious, guys! =D I loved this tho, super fun.
Hi kevin...thank you for featuring my game...hahaha...i know i was bad..hahaha...
Hi kevin,a big fan of yours, i'm playing toss now, but still gold...hehe...hope to get featured in one of your casts...keep up the great work...your casts btw helped me in my games...best wishes...
This is gonna be good!
Just what I was waiting for yes
Love that series. Not just for the laughs, but for the guessing as well. Though i am worse....
THIS is the funniest show ever created for SC2! YOU ROCK HARSTEM!!!
Welcome to the cursed world of Silver
I think the way the replays were cut up this episode was harder than previous episodes. That's fine and all, but it does make comparing participant scores from week to week more difficult. Then again, because uthermal watched previous weeks, maybe he had an advantage that Artosis and Sal didn't have? Hard to say. Either way, like the series and will keep coming back.
18:50 Honestly I dont know how they gave them this high of a rank
The worker count, supply, upgrades and units gave it away. No the most obvious part was the huuuuge float of res.. But maybe it is easy, because I saw the intro xD
Looks like a game I would play=)
For HVTW, protoss reminds me of how I used to play when I was in Silver 2. Though my micro quality has varried a lot from the moment I first came into that league to the moment I got promoted. Still, some things are throwing me off, for example, protoss taking 3rd base so early, and Terran making a timing attack.
So all things considered, I think this is gold 3 or silver 1. I could be wrong, there is not enough information, so my final guess is going to be Silver 1.
It feels a little less derpy and clueless than silver league, but then lack of micro is making this seem much lower than it is. And bunch of money in the bank at only 2 base is absolutely a hallmark of silver league.
As someone who spent somethig like 500-700 matches in silver I feel strongly that is has to be silver league or close by.
Great analysis, but let's consider who would crumble from that timing attack. We're judging a Terran who seems like he practiced some macro, if no micro. I think that attack he shows must happen every game. This would surely kill silver players, so I'll aim higher.
@@godinnicolas5692 His 3 rax hit when the Protoss had 2 batteries and colossus tech. Protoss did not use shield battery. Both players were banking a lot. I agree with this guy that it's silver league. In fact I think it's Silver 3
@@PotatoMussab I went with Platinum 3, i don't think Silver players expand that quickly, even if it was after the robo
@@TheSGRob Bruh what do you mean "that quickly". That 3 rax was so late my dude already had like 3 colossi out.
@@PotatoMussab taking your natural at 3:30 is still quicker than most silvers i would guess
In the basetrade with broodlords they missed the fact they both had 6000 minerals around doing nothing.
19:55 I think its quite easy. Some higher leagues just make downshifting accaunts to get fun. I met it several times, when gyus in silver clicks like 250 AMP
I play both EU and NA and I’m roughly the same MMR in both (4.2 and 4.3) from what I’ve noticed EU play more standard timing attack based... and NA you get more creative play and play that is harder to predict based on scouting info.
Its hard to know what your opponent is doing if your opponents have no clue themselves wtf they are doing.
The highlight of this episode was the "no monitor challenge", not even my stalkers fighting brood lords can reach that!
Good show chief!
With the first one they didn't notice the player popping thier SCV into the bunker when the lings attacked it. This is not something that silver players know you can do, or execute.
me (european): AHH VICTORY
Silver 1. They seem to have intentional expansion timings and build orders. Neither is scouting or microing. Probably both use that same build every pvt and win enough to get to silver 1 without micro.
Harstem, I'm your target audience, NA here :p
This set of games describes my ladder experience. I'm a Platinum 3 noob, but I almost NEVER get an even game. NA is full of smurfs and trolls, so it's either stomp or get stomped 🤣🙃
I can't tell if I should be way better or way worse.
Anyways, love your casts!
I will have you know - I am watching this from Malta :D
I can't imagine how good it would feel to be the silver player in that last replay and see this video.
You should do this with a special guest from somewhere down on the ladder (somewhere around plat), just to see if they have any idea what's going on in their own leagues
I play Plat and I got 6 points
Even nailed the silver 2 lategame
Bruh Im an expert in low level leagues
COOL SHOW GUYZ
Also. The vs. the world part of the episode is obv Platinum 1
They watched the "don't micro just macro " guides.
i wouldn't be so sure. that replay looked like a carbon copy of one of my old gold 3 games, haha
when doing that they're supposed to attack with a maxed out army though, not a couple stalkers and a collosus
I really hope you manage to get one of the Korean players on this show!!!
i think the main thing is if you follow a build (even badly) you can get to gold. if you have no build but you know the units and can micro you're stuck in silver. lol. i dunno i'm just guessing.
quality content
What an enjoyable shitshow
9:42 webcam😂 help, I’m starting to laugh like Harstem
knowing that you even can stack workers = at least gold league
6:17 i laughed so hard :D
"no monitor challenge"
Watch this episode where harstem try’s to reach the highest possible score xD
Puré quality content in this channel, greetings from Bolivia.
Pd... please bring Scarlett into this.
Harstem why is there a sink in your bedroom?!
I wish these were 1h episodes. :)
When/where can we see the results of Harstem vs the world?
I really love this format, keep it up! One suggestion for improvement though: The observer view seems somewhat erratic, e.g. in game 11:50 I literally got headaches. Maybe practice on smoother changes of perspective?
Round 2 and 4 are POV. Aka this is the players camera movement
@@hamster_designs Aah right I just saw the limited field of view and realized it too *facepalm* ;-)
Important!
Always remember that League Display is bugged since last season!
The MMR and Matchmaking works flawless, but with a MMR of 2021 I'm Silver 3, but get ranked as Bronze 2.
According to multiple bug reports this happens to many people, just one of the threads with multiple affected players: us.forums.blizzard.com/en/sc2/t/2v2-from-gold-to-master/17701/2
(Goes both ways: Silver MMR ranked as Masters.)
Actual ranking: liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Battle.net_Leagues.
This happened to me since the last season and continues in the current one.
@Harstem's Editor: Look always at the MMR of these players and not their "official" rank, that may be completely *wrong*!
Edit: So, according to this answer here: czcams.com/video/Y0W2RX7eD44/video.html the editor does check it :-)
all players mentioned are ru or ua, Genies, Kingcobra, Bly (twice), Hellraiser, Happy wth LUL
also, last one had 90 limit with 6k minerals floating just roaming around with ton of lategame units. You see that stuff in lower leagues (guess where I'm at). Cheers from Russia!
Bring in ViBE
That beautiful Artosis pylon at the end (sadly not targeted) tells me that this was Plat 1.
Wow! What a amazing creep spread from sivler player.
before it started, I just assumed that the last game was harstem vs uthermal, but after watching it I'm going to have to go Plat 2/3, probably 2.