I stole uThermals ZERG Build...
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- čas přidán 12. 11. 2023
- In this episode of Beating Grandmasters With Stupid stuff I play a banging build order that I lifted from uThermal. The story is in the video.
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You know it's authentic UThermal when there's no creep spread
lmao true
He's following his build to a T.
That's so funny to say
😂 that backstory behind the build is gold haha
Easily Plat, I mean just look at the multitasking
I came here from uThermal's video.
"CIA probably has pretty good funding if i RECALL"
Harstem officially outs himself as a CIA operative.
Uthermal, Harstem and Lowko are my three favorite sc2 content creators and i just love watching Uthermal cheese Harstem then coming over to Harstems channel and watch him wreck others with the very same build he got wrecked by and have nothing but nice things to say crediting Thermy with such a broken build. I love this community!
The three-headed dutch dragon
Yeah, if Starcraft 1belongs to Korea, then SCII definitely has a Dutch flavor, which I love)
26:02 If only he knew that uThermal's build has only rough outline at the start and very quickly goes into improvisation and every game is different.
The strength of every uThermal build is pushing the game into chaos state where no one knows how it's supposed to be played and he just wins as he has far more experience of playing in chaos.
That sounds like PiG's description of Florencio, aka The Sewer Mermaid.
Drag them down to your level, then beat them with experience.
I love how they have so much respect for each other.
Instead of being salty they compliment each other
It’s how fairly well-adjusted happy people communicate, even rivals.
Nice guys finish first.
playing with no creep = the dutch method
When non-zerg mains try to play zerg...
"Stealing fruit, that's what I'm all about" Harstem-2023
I was cracking up at that whole thing. Sewn? Sown? He plants the seeds, I reap them!
Checking the help menu while in a 1v1 is the most insane thing about this video
The Introduction to this video made me super happy :D.
As a relatively fresh huge fan of Uthermal it is with pure joy I experience any interaction between the now 2 of my favorite SC2 creators. keep up the great work!
Cheers!
Collab when? 1v1 cheesefest?
If you never found Lowko, I think he kept up the SC2 scene for Thermy and Harstem and others to break out more recently (3-4 years) on CZcams.
@@kindlin I do appreciate the hard work of Lowko as well as all the others youtubers, streamers, tourney organizers, commentators its a big and wonderful community that all worked together to keep the Sc2 alive. I just prefer Thermy and Harstem. There is something really naughty about these 2 that I enjoy a lot :D and there is only so much time I have so can't watch them all but good point for sure Lowk does quality content as well.
Cheers!
@@TheNeomare It's all about accessibility. The fact you CAN watch Harstem/Thermy is proof you don't need the full commentary from Lowko. A bunch of years ago when I wasn't familiar with the SC2 scene at ALL, no idea the units, the strats, nothing but the basics from when the game first came out, it wasn't possible for me to watch someone PLAY SC2, they were too fast, and it was almost nauseating. But over time I started watching a lot more playing vs casting, but Lowko is still always fun.
@@kindlin oh Alright :D. That puts a different perspective. Yea what you say makes perfect sense. For somebody who is new Harstem and Thermy might not be the best place to start. If anything quite the opposite :D.
Glad you found your way trough the difficulty. It is a fun game to watch. I really do admire the level at which some people can play it. Its much better for me than watching traditional sports.
I guess I take for granted for how long I am in SC2 i feel like i understand it really well. Watched a lot of GSL and many many many youtubers and streamers playing it. I never really was into investing enough time to be and good at it though... did have some fun with a friend of mine for a while when wol came out though but nothing very high level.
Ah the good old times :).
Cheers!
I imagine this video came about like this:
"I found a new build order, in which series should I use it?"
"From whom did you get it?"
"uThermal."
"In that case beating Grandmaster with stupid stuff!"
I'm still really hoping you and Marc to team up for a bit of Co-op shenanigans
Marc builds hit different.
It helps understanding this build if you realize uThermal is a pro Terran player and this is basically playing your Zerg like it's a Terran instead. Hydra drops are basically like medivac dropping marines, but way stronger.
Its def not stronger but comparable. Marine medvac synergy is probably the best in the game:
When you mentioned "uThermal" and "normal human being" in the same sentence my eyebrows were starting to rise up...
I watched that game from Thermys POV, it was magnificent!
Is it on youtube?
@@pavelfedorov2891yeah, i think it's posted last week
@@pavelfedorov2891something like "Zerg cheese to grandmaster"
@@pavelfedorov2891 I don't think its uploaded yet, or it might have been on uThermal's twitch stream
@@pavelfedorov2891it is as of today
I did it on the Diamond ladder and won like 5 games in a row. Super fun build.
"Yeah, whatever let's go" - printing the t-shirts now bruh 👊
"oh... that's right, let's go" will be on the back of the shirts
Harstem: Banter King, Uthermal: Troll Lord. Woot!
I think this originate from iA and silky's old build "rogafufuken" (yes, yamcha from dragon ball): two base ling flood, a fake attack on natural and a real drop into the main (back then drop can be researched by hatchery). That was a pure PvZ build which has caught so many protoss players out of guard, also resulted in the removal of hatchery droplord research :). And this evolving into a PvT (also PvZ maybe? lol) build with latest buffed hydra is a real nice touch by uthermal.
all overlords could be dropperlords after research?
@@sakesaurus Only needed an evolution chamber to morph dropperlords. No research necessary.
@@zardecil9419 ah nice
The dropperlord is for zerg civilian logistics and should not be put into the army category. How will our drones go on vacation without their civilian aircraft??
did he say "I think I a-cheesed something", what a phrase!!
I "love" how the end result of this is going to be Harstem going back to the balance council calling for a bug fix that nerfs Zerg, to wit the dropperlords not being f2-able.
I think if your excited face on the thumbnail gets any more excited you're going to dislocate your jaw.
Soyfacing
I respect you admiring you stole it, makes it less stealy👍👍
I just saw that short from that pirate guy too. I've never seen him till yesterday.
bro I hate the build in the first game, I've died many times from it (as a toss), all the units are near the wall, I never think to check the main. Great to see it done first person
Nice tribute to mark, he is such a great player, fair play and very entertaining
uthermal is a cheese-wizzard
he is THE cheese-wizzard. It's art.
Harstem is the master of knowing the algorithm disfavors videos that have viewers end early so he wraps up the ending in 3 seconds flat before anyone can click off, and another video just autoplays right after.
1:25 It just made me lose it and I laughed in the middle of the night like a maniae XDD
I love this lol. Love both Marc & harstem so that story made me laugh
I used to play EVE Online with the PirateSoftware guy, he was my CEO in-game, it's crazy seeing him suddenly blow up on CZcams out of nowhere.
"This is as braindead as it becomes." "High tier multitasking."
Don't play sc2 for a long time, but having so mush fun watching how uThermal or you playing this build!)
in this video, harstem finally realizes Zerg is broken at 15:45
You can do it on 1 gas btw. Instead of going into Hydras you can make a ton of drones and a 3rd while they are dealing with the drop.
This build feels like old days SC2
"Exact timings are for losers!" ,Harstem 😆
The carpenter strikes again 😅
It's funny this many years into playing this game people are still making new builds and playing weird stuff effectively.
Ya Harsten finally discovered the zerg build that plays like terran haha! Hydralisk drops instead of marine drops, just as deadly!!!!
This is so Dutch it's sponsored by Heinekin.
We need a series of 2v2 team play harstem and uthermal vs the world
Even if you didn't name uthermal in the title, I think a lot of us would have known who you played against!
strong against the immortal. "ya no crap" LMAO
I think you could've done some hot pick up micro with the hydra vs roach fight, it's not often you have both hydras and speed dropperlords!
Your webcam quality is amazing!
I watched that game, Mark would say, that he plays Zerg like a Terran. Zerg version of Maru harassment drops.
You didn't steal his Zerg drop lol. You know Mark likes Terran but plays all races. He isn't great with Zerg, so he plays Zerg like Terran. He hates using Bannelings, lol. Wait till someone like Scarlett experiment with it
I ling dropped twice on protoss and it worked very well each time (helps to get the +1 melee attack by the the time the drop happens)
If you have +1 by the time your drop hits you did the build completely wrong and hit way too late.
15:50 I'm fine with that if infestors and ravens get waterballoons
Thermy is a legend
15:55 NO NO NO NO Dont you dare
cap, the dropperlords not moving might have been if they still had poop mode toggled. iirc having that on means they aren't included in f2 and that when they stop moving they'll immediately start pooping again
dang I been rushing 16 ling drops against T & P for a while. I play low Diamond NA and most just 2 base with a wall and rush BC/Carrier so I hit em with the drop early and it crushes. Another strat I revived from olden days is the roach army with banelings hidden in droplords. Marines never see it coming.
Dont know if UThermal mentioned it but that build also seems to transition quite quick and efficiently into mutas or just a handdffull to counter colossus/tanks
I watched uThermals game and he was so happy about it, golden :)
I mean, what's the ultimate lategame Zerg comp? A deployable siege unit, a glass cannon high dps infantry unit, and a snipey caster. That is: Play bug Terran.
Great acheesements right here
9 marines actually beat a colossus.
would have loved to see a /dance on the dropperlords
Would it be a viable protoss build to go stargate, allow opponent to just scout void rays (use for ovie hunting, "defense") so opponent doesn't build spores, but actually be building a proxy darkshrine?
Baboon learns starcraft build from Baboon.
Plonk down 4 spines as soon as you saw he was going for roaches and I think you would have been in a perfectly playable spot?
Is there anyone with a link to the first game they played, where uthermal did the cheese to harstem?
next episode of IODIS, Dear Harstem, i microd and macrod perfectly like a god and I outplayed the enemy zerg all game with my fantastic use of two different control groups. then this guy with kerrigan poster on his wall presses f2 and defends his base with A move while also backdooring into my main base with 8 dropper lords. is it imba or do i suck, here is a hentai drawing of jim raynor trying to find artanises nipples with his tongue
For the first ling drop, would breaking 6 off to block the path to the ramp net you some more probe kills?
If you right-click a worker onto a mineral field, it can move through units. If you pay attention, you can see when people use that method to control their worker movement, when they start shifting into each other instead of moving like normal units.
BGMWSS IDEA!
Base trade from behind!
We all know Kevin likes to do BGMWSS to try and explore new ideas for his serious gameplay. While many players know how to basetrade decently, most players don't have builds designed for basetrades, nor do they usually execute basetrades effeciently. In this episode, the captain should be behind, and make a come back victory with his basetrade. It's an excellent way to practice while entertaining the masses.
Cheers Captain, happy trading :)
Don't count Droperlords as armies @Harstem, thanks !!!! Fine as it is OR add a include/exclude from all army hotkey switch to all units !!!! Would be appreciated :D
If it's stupid but works, it's not stupid. As someone once said, if it's not a viable strategy they should be able to beat you.
So what is the actual build order?
My ZvZ is my strongest matchup by far because it's the only matchup I have nailed down brain dead timings for any build (ling flood in this case). I need something to be aggressive with in the other 2 matchups.
uThermal is a menace.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, they found the overload all army glitch
We had Fruitdealer, now we have fruitstealer
Fruitstealer obviously sells the stolen fruit to Fruitdealer
And now I found out that 4 best bizzard streamers (imho) all are Datch. How? Why? Interesting!
This is cheesier than most of the stuff on Cheesiest Man Alive!
I think as a zerg main I will struggle with this cheese, because it does not use a-move 🤣😋🎉
That's basically my build from WoL beta.
I think that every build that involves lower eco and more/faster use of units will work better for you or Uthermal than Standard play but i dont think is going to translate for most Zerg mains. Trying to say that build like these just fit better ppl doing off-race.
Doesn't thermal build and cancel two refineries so he can build extra drones before the first overlord?
well i just come from ladder and was like let's watch the captain and bam i see the build i just lost to xD
You and Marc sound a lot alike and not just because you have the same accent. You both share English slang words.
Against zerg you got to go into ultra / infestor / viper xD
nah how nasty is this XD
this is why toss opens robo
phoenix early kill the droperlords and you can also suply block the zerg. also more phoenix counter less hydras with good micro. robo is only good if you manage to make phoenix colossus for some reason, or zerg makes roaches. but 2 bases zerg roach vs protoss 3 base anything looses most of the time, especially after investing in droperlords.
the oracle killed less than the zerglings as oracles almost never become cost efficient killing workers. it is more of a utility unit.
4 phoenix harass/scout after the 1 phoenix killed a droperlord should just win. if you scout a roach warren, a second stargate with one additional phoenix for queen kill and then void rays.
this is a zerg cheese, as with almost any zerg cheese, the thing is that they are more broken than pre nerf cannon rushes, but they are beatable with a really specific response that requires tons of knowledge and preparation, which is why it feels unfair. but nobody cares because the top zergs and dark usually have to go macro against terran.
*Me whenever I win a Zerg game* 30:55
I wish they would bring back Wings of Liberty ladder
Of course it was Uthermal.
Collab, when?
I see Uthermals name … i click and watch the video heeh
The hate on Zerg between the lines is real 🐷
who would you say is the most creative and cheesiest player in the history of SC2 ?
Now can we get TLO to try this build out?
Absolutely awesome soy face in the thumbnail. double thumbs up
Stealing Fruits 😆
Welcome to the diamond league, captain!! ;D Hydras are kinda imba, especially when you suck as a low MMR-player.
Have you played against uThermal? Do you have a video?
You need to make one of those clickbait videos: 12,000 Marines vs colossus with infinite super battery who wins?
Blizzard: buffs the Hydralisk 5 patches in a row.
Zerg only players: Meh lurker eggs.
Terran and protoss players: Yo this some gourmet S#!t.
Why should dropperlords count as army??