How to Replace Timing Belt, Set Ignition Timing, Degree Cam 2.3L 2300cc Ford
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- For this video we walk through all the steps you need to replace your stock timing belt on a variety of 2.3s, set a distributor in place and set base ignition timing. Then we cover the process to degree a Ford Lima 2.3L camshaft from scratch and determine intake centerline.
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Contents of this video:
0:00 - Intro
1:56 - Replace stock timing belt
7:08 - Install Distributor
10:01 - Set factory ignition timing on 84 SVO Mustang
12:13 - Find Top Dead Center
20:15 - Degree Cam, find intake centerline - Auta a dopravní prostředky
i just want to say i love the effort put into this video. the engine on the white background is beautiful. Theres not any well produced videos about the 2.3l on youtube
Thanks. I tried get a few under my belt before doing this one. Hopefully it helps somebody.
Parabéns pelo projeto aqui no Brasil estou procurando comando de válvulas auto performance. Para arrancada com balancins roletado molas não existe no Brasil para turbo ,vc tem contato de quem tem . obrigado
Even though I don’t currently own a 2.3, I’m sure glad that you’re doing videos once again. Definitely appreciate your knowledge and expertise being shared. Makes me feel more worthy when I’m wearing my pinto shirt 👌🏼
Well for starters congrats on Not having a 2.3. Id have more time/money if I didnt have them haha. Thanks a ton. Ive had a wild month or so and videoed a bunch. I just need to get to editing.
What makes a good mechanic is learning all of this on your own in a parking lot during the a snowstorm lol!
Thank you for posting such a detailed video - it really helped me and my grandson get his first car running. My father left me an '86 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe that had timing issues and I had no idea where to start.
Those are the best kind of projects. Leave some comments if you have other suggestions. See the more recent vids of the red turbocoupe. It runs really bad so I may do a diagnostic video or two for that one.
Best Lima video I’ve seen. Saved me ton of headaches. Good job and thank you!
I own a 2.3 Turbo 87 TBird, this video was very helpful. Thank you for your thoroughness and clear speaking, unfortunately a rarity.
Greats news. Thanks. Glad it helped.
I have a 2.3 Ford ranger 1983
I love this engine
These engines are very sensitive to adjustment s thank you very much for your time and video
Welcome! Yeah that's a fact. The slightest little thing will upset these engines.
Remember that 1974 to 80 2.3 use square tooth belts and gears.where early to mid 80s and up went to round tooth belts and gears
That's not true at all. My 87 tcoupe has square tooth.
Great tip on the hub adapter. I would not have known that it’s the same as a small block Chevy.
It makes it easier when even one thing is the same as a Chevy 🤣
Just subscribed to your channel, I don't have a mustang but I do have one of these 2.3 turbo engine with tranny out of a 1984 svo and I'm planning on installing it into a mazda B2200, so far gathering parts before the project begins, keep up with these great videos they really are good information.
Thanks! A b2200 will be a great candidate.
Damn this is the BEST video man thank you a lot seriously been watching tons trying to do head gasket and was nervous about pulling belt off
Ha thanks. Don't be nervous. Go slow and double check the belt, roll the engine over two times and make sure the marks line up again and you're set.
@@2300gearjammer hey, I'm doing the same as original comment, 2.3 on a 94 ranger. Would I be fine to take the belt off or should I mark first than take the belt off, I've never done this before
Talk about putting stuff in your pocket... dude is king!!
When working on a 2.3, you might as well be putting rocks in your pocket. 😂
Perfectly explained well put together video. You rock Matt! Thanks for the knowledge.
Thanks a ton! Leave comments if you think of any tech videos you might want. Ill try to mix them in with the rest of the dumb hackery as I go along 😂
@@2300gearjammer I'd like to see a hour long video on the process of making your custom timing pointers..😅
@@Hoppysjunkyardrally I couldn't do one in 1hr. 😂
@@2300gearjammer 😅😅 maybe a 4 part series..
@@Hoppysjunkyardrally 🤣🤣
Thanks man I've done this a few times just needed a reminder of a few things it's been a while
🏆🏆 glad it could help
Well I just went with it and the SVO is up and running! Thank you sir! I will be sure to give you a shout out on my channel.
Haha nice! I'm behind on comments but I'm slowly getting there. Glad you got it worked out. 🏆
Keep up the good work Matt
Thanks buddy! I've had a crazy last week and have a pile to upload now.
I race a mustang on dirt running the 2.3 motors. This video taught me something but confused me too. Thanks for making the video though 😆
Haha wait. What confused you?
excellent video. i still cant wrap my brain around trying to degree a 2.3 engine or any engine with a factory cam gear you cant adjust.i have a 2.3 that is eating distributer gears and accessory shaft gear.any thoughts on that ?? thanks
If you keep chewing up both it's probably the oil pump grinding into itself. I had it happen twice in a weekend and then put an oil pump on and never had another issue.
Im working on a 1985 thunderbird tc and it doesn't have a spout connector like you showed it just has what seems to be a regular connector is that normal?
Im in the process of trying to get it running and ive been having all kinds of trouble i bypassed the fuel pump in the tank with a high pressure inline supposed to be 118psi and im having no luck gettin injectors to work i just replaced icm tested the pickup with a sensor tester and it seems fine injector wires have power one both sides when plugged in so i unplugged and tested for ground and its seems to pulse but then i noticed the timing was a tooth or so off so i fixed that and now im gonna restab the dissibutor like you show and try some more im really about to take a hammer to this thing it fires with carb cleaner but seem to not be getting fuel. Any clues would be much appreciated sorry for the life story but im beyond frustration at this point.
what vales should be closed own a 1996 Mazda b2300 2.3 for top dead center
Hi, did you know by any chance the name of the litlle tank in between the intake and oil filter? and how to remove it or replace it
I've heard it called different things including junk. You can just pry it straight out though. They can be really stuck.
I have a 79 mustang with a 2.3 it has vacuum advance, and I am having trouble locating the correct place for the connection to the carb,
Please let me know, and thank you for the detailed video.
That one I can't really help much with because I've only had one carb 2.3 over the years and never messed with the vacuum advance.
I've got a 1992 Ford Ranger 4x4 with a 2.3 in it, and I would like to eventually rebuild the engine with some performance parts. Do you plan on making a video on tearing one down and rebuilding it? I haven't looked on your channel as of this comment being posted, so I might find it if you already posted one when I look after posting this.
Holy crap that truck is on my list to find. I'd love to find a 2.3 4x4 setup. I did sort of a build vid for my racecar. I don't want to steer people too wrong on an engine build
Good stuff. Have you thought about running a C4 in that pinto? I have been pondering the swap in my Ranger. Stock trans won’t last long I think.
I would consider it for the science of the swap and comparison but I plan to run fairly quick in the pinto at some point, so Id need to stay as far away from a C4 as possible when it comes time to go fast. haha.
What would the timing mark be on a esslinger cam gear?
Hey there! Im currently replacing the timing belt and tensioner on my 97 mazda b2300. Ive found that neither my cam gear nor my oil pump gear have any kind of timing marks on them. Any recommendations for ensuring im timing the ol girl correctly?
Did you happen to take off the gears? They can go in either way. I’m doing my timing for the first time and my pump gear was already switched around but my cam gear was not!
Great Video, In my boat I have a 2.3L My alternator came loose and I tightened it back up which tightened the belt . Could that have affected my timing?
No
As stated, nope. Lots of things might but that wouldn't do it. If it was right before it's still good
Have you done a video on the 2.3 with 8 valves
Hey there! I just picked up an 86 SVO and I have driven it roughly 300 miles and it quit. I took a couple of shots in the dark and missed. TFI module, no. (now I have a spare) noticed the rotor wasn't turning so I guessed dizzy roll pin no, then I figured out it had to be the timing belt. My belt torn through some teeth at the crank and the timing marks are all over the place none are close to where they need to be. I pulled the belt today and based on what I have seen in your video I can rotate the crank, line up the marks and I will be at top dead center, then rotate the cam gear get that lined up. Flip the oil pump gear to find that mark line it up to the cam gear, install the new belt, set the tensioner then get to the dizzy. Set that and I should be golden? Sorry to question what I just saw, but I am new to 2.3's. I am used to working on cars from the late 60's and 70's. I have replaced timing chains just never broke one. Thank you in advance.
Haha I thought I saw this comment but it was sort of far down. Glad you got it worked out. Did you pull and reset the distributor or was it right when you reset the timing belt?
@@2300gearjammer I had to reset the distributor. Got it running but I was a tooth off. Lined up the oil pump shaft input on the distributor and dropped in it and everything is golden. This was an almost completely original car. Meaning original timing belt, fuel filter, etc., etc. Replacing things as I get the time. Next is swapping out the rear calipers for the Mark VIII calipers. The brakes are fine but the parking brake cylinders are blown out. It's seems like the Mark VIII's had a better set up. Your video was extremely helpful as this was my first timing belt. I took my time followed the video and got it done. Thanks again.
@@TonysFordsandMustangs awesome glad to hear it. Keep trucking.
Is this more accurate for cam than say the ebar method. I'll be doing this on my 2.3 soon with new cam, and feel little lost lol
With the engine out, the EBar method is about as good as doing it by eyeball. The degree wheel is the way to really get it dialed correctly.
what vales should be closed for top dead center own a 1996 Mazda b2300 2.3 duel coil packs
Just on the individual valves I can never remember. Make yourself a little chart with the firing order and you can figure it out
Cool stuff, that is important to do if you want to make max Powah 💪🏻
I'm all about the percentages. If I cant make a lot I might as well make use of what Ive got haha
@@2300gearjammer 😂🤣 that's right, gotta squeeze all of it out then put it in a vise to get what's left 😆
hello greetings friend, a question, this synchronization of the time band that you show in your video would be useful for my ranger 2.3 model 86, 4 carbureted spark plugs ... greetings
Hello. Yes this is the same timing for an 86 ranger.
I'm very interested in what a carbureted spark plug looks like.
Are you saying the distributor has to be reset if you change timing belt on 2.3 engine?
It would typically only need to be reset if you flip that aux pulley around and put the marks like I do. You can do it without that step but you have to verify the rotor button is pointed the right way. My way let's you time the engine blinded folded after it's setup initially. Good luck
Do you by any chance have the part number of the timing belt on the four cylinder
Agh I don't have it handy. Make you get get the right one for your setup up though. There's a round tooth (newer vehicles) and a square tooth (older) versions.
Does this video apply to setting ignition timing for a blow-threw set up with out a spout for timing light ??
Yeah it can certainly work the same. Pull the spout and and set your base timing to wherever you want that. What are you using for a timing map?
Yeah it can certainly work the same. Pull the spout and and set your base timing to wherever you want that. What are you using for a timing map?
Just wanna know how to time ford Dohc 2300 16v using timing chain
I have a 83 ford ranger with the 2.3, it will turn over but not fire any ideas what it might be?
Not much on those. Pull a spark plug & wire and see if it has spark while cranking. Check the carb for fuel.
I’m wondering if you can help me with my 94 2.3 ranger. I need to know if my valve seat are bad. Cylinder one seems to be weak. If I unplug injectors: cyl one unplugged, the idle doesn’t change. But the guy I jus bought it from said he just had the head rebuilt. I’ve replaced every sensor except icm crank sensor. It will drive great for less than a block then choke up real bad. Rough idle and want to die from a stop and cruising it vibrates a lot. No power regardless. Starting to think it’s ecm or valve seats 🫠
Ecm is extremely rare so put that one down the list. The way to diagnose that though is to do a cylinder leakage test and put compressed air in each cylinder then see where is leaks out. I've had a lot of busted valve seats over the years.
@@2300gearjammer If valves aren't sealing won't that cause smoke? I had a head with oversize valves that someone did in a hurry, and after I put a re-built head with stock valves on the beefed-up block it ran fine.
Hey, what’s up guys have a question I just did my timing belt on my 88 Ford Thunderbird, turbo coupe, and my timing tabs were broken so I did the dipstick method fire The car up runs fine, but after a period of driving. car has a stumbling idle issue like it wants to shut off if the timing is off wouldn’t the car act up cold also.
I replied to the other comment but have you checked the ignition timing?
K I figured it out it in the being ignition control module
Where i found that ignition distributor i have a b2300 pick up 1994 and have many problems with ignition and i think to solve the problem its made it carb and eliminate all the fuel injection system? But i dont know in what year that engines come carb if you can help me thanks anticipated
I had an 86 mustang that was carb so probably anything mustang or ranger up to 86. Check with circle track guys. They may have parts leftover that they don't use.
@@2300gearjammer thaks for answer bro so in years 86 to 90 ok i try to founded
Subbed bro I also like/own many junk 2.3
Thanks! Sorry to hear that. Follow along my misadventures and you might get smart and junk them all 😅😅
Does this motor have eight park plugs
Great video man! My SVO has been sitting for a year because I cant figure out why my number 4 cylinder isn't firing. I love this car, but I am so ready to coyote swap this thing.....its nuts.
Well Its hard to blame anybody that would swap a 2.3 for a coyote but your misfire is likely something really simple.
@@2300gearjammer I really think it's me getting old. I have had 7 SVOs and this one is the most modified that I have had. It ran really good then all of a suddon... miss fire. I wish that I had micro squirt or pimp instead of SDS.
So I’m 21 and I got a 2300 stuffed in a Miata and I was watching your videos and I can tell you know what you’re doing I’m learning every step of the way. I love these motors. Mine is .30 over with wiseco pistons, manly I beam rods, port and polished head, over sized valves, not sure what size cam. Had a Holley 600cfm converted to blow through. Running 20lbs have went much past that but I would trust it past that. Was kinda curious on what kinda boost you running on those videos of the mustang? My car is street driven. Also what cam are you running? I wanna swap to a better one.
That sounds like a killer ride. At 20psi that should be an absolute rocket. At it's peak I had a goal to run 9.99999 at 20psi but I couldn't get it done. I may chase that a little more in '22. My cam is a boport stage 4 and we did Hot Rod Drag Week with it, it's not daily driver friendly but it's driveable. Haha
That’s not bad on boost. I’m trying to get a decent cam that can be street driven with. I did post some videos of it on 15lbs. It doesn’t have any msd box yet. It’s only off what I set the distributor at.
Well the boport 1.9-2.5 cams would certainly be street able and make good power.
Thank you I’ll definitely check them out and see if I can maybe get one. One last question? What fuel do you run and what kinda timing? Mines on 93 it’s also doesn’t have turbo pistons in it. There flat tops🤫
I havent done the flat top route yet but we will test that out on the pinto. The mustang runs VP racing Q16 and timing 23-24* in boost. That fuel helps a bunch but I've never worked out timing to the point to see where the edge is.
And iv seen on some the auxiliary shaft Lully doesn’t matter and some write ups says no
Aux shaft only matters if it has a distributor.
I would like to see idle adjustment. Having a high idle issue. (Haven't checked vacuum leak yet)
Is that on a carb or EFI engine?
@@2300gearjammer efi 1984 svo
I am looking to to a 2.3 enhance (power build) for daily driver
Kickass bro .any thoughts on just a2.3 iron head and a monster carb setup just for us poor SC necks.an all motor or something like that.basic cheap and fast if it can be .any thoughts be appreciated.still working on my 93 notch 460 but thinking of a side hustle.lol..holler qnd glad to see you on the tele brother..keep kicking ass
Haha well if you don't have cubes you need boost and if you don't have boost you need RPM. That being said it would take a healthy carb engine to make 200hp but a stock turbo engine does that.
@@2300gearjammer ok thanks brother..I'm thinking of that kinda low budget build.maybe port and polish everything and bore it and all that can be done to it. And then yeah throw a beefy little carb on it .maybe a small shot of nitro.or something not to dangerous. I'm wondering how it would preform to use as a daily slash sleeper if need be..any thoughts brother.im poor so I'd have to do alot myself
@@2300gearjammer oh ok thanks brother
I didn't see the rest of your reply.appreciate it...keep kicking ass
@@mustangandfrankenstein I got you covered on the poor setups. Haha that's what I do. For my ranger I took the stock 2.3 dropped in a set of 300k mile turbocoupe pistons, I don't even think I honed the cylinders lol I have about $100 in that engine
@@2300gearjammer yes .that's exactly what my train of thought is. Exactly brother..and hey .I'd love another ranger if ya see or hear of one.body style 80 to like 90 ish maybe .with 5 speed..runnibg preferably or just body.4x4 too if possible..has one and loved it..gotta be cheap though if ya ever ceme across one holler like expired food stamps cheap.lol..I'm right here in Myrtle beach.miss that ranger 88 shortened lifted 8 inch.rebel flag as a headliner .a beater but ran great .good truck..ok thank you brother..
i need help with timing my distributor and balance shaft!
These don't have a balance shaft but the info you need should be in the video.
I mean the auxiliary shaft. I bought a new esslinger shaft and was trying to reference installation videos. Is it OK to run the billet shaft as opposed to stock one?
Yeah The billet shaft is way better just being brand new. My mustang engines run the billet shaft and bronze gear.
My 2.3 doesn’t look nothing like yours down by the crank. I have a crank sensor and a metal plate holding my belt guide from coming out
His has the metal plate too. It’s the belt guide. Watch closely and he puts it back on when he’s done.
I have a 1988 Ford Thunderbird turbo coupe my head gasket just went out do I need to remove the distributor to do a head gasket
No u dont need to, Im doing a head gasket also
As Daniel said, nope. The only reason you might would pull the distributor is if you wanted to setup the aux pulley the way I do.
Hey what up buddy I just did my timing belt following your video? Just curiosity what would happened if I am a tooth off when I’m doing the dip stick method my tabs were broken I lined everything up as the video shows car turned on.
Did you pull and reinstall the distributor?
I have a twin cam 2.7 ranger
Wow never heard of a 2.7 ranger
Hi, I have a Mazda B2300 - same as a Ford Ranger I'm told but it doesn't use a distributor. Ever since I bought it a few years ago, it has always been hard to start. To me it feels like the ignition timing is retarded and it's very under-powered. I've been told there is no adjustment possible to the ignition timing. I've replaced plugs, wires, coil packs etc etc with no improvement except it runs smooth once started. How do I set the ignition timing and where is the ignition timing pickup? And can this under-power be compensated by moving the cam shaft timing belt one belt cog one way or the other? Any help would sure be appreciated. Can the engine be converted to a standard distributor drive or after-market ignition control module allowing timing adjustments? Thank you.
Correct on the fact timing is not adjustable. You could run the PIMP ecu like I do but that's pretty extreme if you don't have many engine mods. You can check the ignition timing with a light just the same as the distributor style ignition. Timing belt off a tooth could certainly cause issue but you would greatly notice it elsewhere. For this kind of issue you would need to work the a diagnostic pinpoint test for cold start. You might find a coolant temp sensor way out of range or a MAF causing that issue.
Mi ranger tiene modulo dish
Followed this video. The timing was completely off. With the timing using the “string method” the rotor was never firing on the correct cylinders. Adjusted the rotor and still could not get it to work. Ended up going old school. Go to TDC for 1 and set the rotor to that cylinder. Maybe we did some thing wrong but the cam gear timing tab and crank shaft timing tab are the only things I see that need to be timed together. Once those are timed the rotor can be aligned accordingly to its correct cylinder. I would like some feed back to see if you have come across this. Engine runs fantastic but not from the information from this video
It might be impossible to get it wrong if you follow this vid step by step.
Did you set the cam timing and aux shaft and then check a distributor that was already in place?
@@2300gearjammer we watched it a million times. I feel we followed it. There’s a few things that are different between your engine and mine but other than that it’s perfect. The only thing I could think is someone replace the distributor and installed it incorrectly maybe?
@@2300gearjammer we don’t have the module on the distributor like the one in the video.
@@bryantmoore5606 you got it. That's why I included resetting the distributor, they are all off from the next if you leave the distributor in place it means the last person just stuck it in place and rotated it around to fix it. I prefer to have them all exactly the same.
I was going to see if I could get a 10% on the timing pointer, I want one really bad but money is so tight these days especially if you are building hotrods and race cars, I would have been able to pay full price for the timing tab but someone gave me a free 302 engine today so that took all of my spare cash 😁🤪
I can do 8% and it can in fact be used on that 302. Guaranteed to to add horsepower. All sales final, no guarantees.
@@2300gearjammer Deal, Im going to head on over and order it, but going to hold on to the receipt just incase it doesn't add horsepower like the guarantee states that way I can swap it for one that does. Hopefully it will add 80% more horsepower
Haha perfect. Ill be able to put all my cars through college now.
Don't forget to tighten the clamp on the distributor after setting the timing. Ask me how i know....
Haha I've done that one too
The distributor was loose on the pinto day I pulled it from the junkyard and made a track pass
I could NEVER get the belt on with the cam and cranks marked lined up😩.
I know it can be a pain at first. You have to keep rolling the engine over and resetting until you get it.
@@2300gearjammer Found out the timing cover was cracked and not accurate. Did the dipstick method this past evening and everything appear to be running all good
Nice. Glad to hear you found it
COUNTER....clock wise lol nice edit,
Need 2.3 timing
Timing belt 101 remember doing this for a 91' Mitsubishi truck manual repair book no U tube would say timing chain ⛓️ better choice
I like a timing chain. I don't like timing chain guides 😂
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Here in Russia this engine is still in demand and is even tuned)))
I’m surprised that America has its own eight-valve engine, basically now everything is on a sixteen-valve engine or more powerful
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Where are all the hot guys ?
Dropping from planes any minute.
They're usually not that hot until you put em over a fire. Of course you can use a bearing heater, but that'll require a whole lot of prep work and cleanup.
Hope that helps!
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