While I respect your comment. I have had all 3 generations of the MPX. While the Gen 3 has been reliable. I have had some quality control issues with it. Recently 2 cam path screws walked out. Sig was good and sent me 2. I repaired and it’s back with no interruptions. The mpx accuracy issue is what I believe comes from quality control issues. It’s really not that accurate. It’s good enough to hit a man size target at 100 yards. Some guns are more accurate than others. I notice with sig you either get an amazing product out of the box or not so much. I think it’s a very soft shooting gun. I have also shot the HK MP5. I believe the simple blow back design with B&T spring and hydraulic system to lighten the recoil definitely helps it to be as soft or it’s negligible. The piston gun does not translate into a cleaner gun. They get super dirty inside. I am not an expert by any means but this is my opinion. I appreciate yours. Thanks for watching.
I actually had a Sig mpx-K Gen 3 and when I first purchased it I thought I had found ‘my gun’. The ergos were PHENOMENAL. Best I’d felt on a firearm. Trigger was awesome. Manual of arms was fantastic. Took it to the range, 5” groups at 15 FEET. Sent it to Sig, they ‘fixed it’ and sent it back. Had the same issue. Sent it back again and tney said it shoots Speer lawman well, and since it shot ONE factory load well, there was nothing wrong. I shot it bare muzzle, their birdcage, tri lug, and suppressed. All same result. I sold it (for a loss) with the disclosure that it was dog manure, and bought an APC9 pro in tan. While it’s not quite as ergonomic, it works, it’s accurate, it’s stout, and I trust the company, I couldn’t hit steel more than 2/10 at 75m with the mpx from bench. I do 8-9/10 with the apc freehand. I’ll never buy another Sig that’s mot a 365
@@alexlevinson8629 It seems that sig can be very hit or miss with quality control. I think they are pumping out more and more different products but quality control may suffer. Thanks for watching
@@alexlevinson8629 Wow man that sucks to hear. I was truly blown away with mine. it shoots 2in groups from standing at 50 yards! I am no expert either just an avid shooter. I have the gen 3 k model with the 4.5in barrel. Mines been a dream so far.
Hello. Yes. Love it. The K is scary 😟 short because I worry about hand so close to the muzzle. The PRO is perfect with hand stop ✋. Thanks for watching. Enjoy the gun
Could you please list what model Holosun Sights you were running on those, along with the Braces. The sight appears to be a *HE510C-GR* but I can't be a 100% sure. Thanks!
Completely disagree with the final assessment. Don't pay that much for a lazy blockback design. The MPX is a proper piston operated gas system with a rotating and locking bolt. Also if you're having accuracy issues with the MPX, get that sorted. It's capable of being more accurate and while it is already a softer shooting gun than maybe any other PCC except for maybe the MP5, the factory guns are a little overgassed. Get an In Lead We Trust barrel and you'll have a much more accurate version with much softer shooting. Also get a proper stock for the MPX. That awful brace they give you compared to the super nice brace on the APC9 (which cost proabably $600 extra) is giving you way more control so maybe it feels soft shooting and accurate for that reason, but again it's a primitive blowback system that's never going to shoot as soft or as reliably all things equal.
@@CLASSxACT Don't care at all. Are you saying the military makes the best choices when it comes to weapons? I could have an APC9 Pro tomorrow if I wanted. Unfortunately I'm not going to pay more than a Scorpion costs for a direct blowback gun.
@@Blxzers I've shot them plenty, as well as the TP9 and GHM9. Every one of my friends that have ever owned an APC9 has sold it so far as I'm aware. I could pick one up tomorrow if I wanted to but I know they're unimpressive blowback junk that's only expensive because it has a nice build quality. If you like it cause you think it looks cool then good for you, but don't pretend it's cutting edge or as good of a system in any way compared to the short stroke operated MPX.
@@draggboy I own a apc9 pro and I’ve shot hundreds of rounds through a mpx. The mpx is a great gun but the Quality and reliability of the apc9 is second to none. The apc might be a blow back but paired with the hydraulic buffering system makes it makes it a pleasure to shoot. The only thing that the mpx has against the apc9 is the mags, although I’ve never had a problem with mine. Have you had the chance to shoot a B&t?
While I respect your comment. I have had all 3 generations of the MPX. While the Gen 3 has been reliable. I have had some quality control issues with it. Recently 2 cam path screws walked out. Sig was good and sent me 2. I repaired and it’s back with no interruptions. The mpx accuracy issue is what I believe comes from quality control issues. It’s really not that accurate. It’s good enough to hit a man size target at 100 yards. Some guns are more accurate than others. I notice with sig you either get an amazing product out of the box or not so much. I think it’s a very soft shooting gun. I have also shot the HK MP5. I believe the simple blow back design with B&T spring and hydraulic system to lighten the recoil definitely helps it to be as soft or it’s negligible. The piston gun does not translate into a cleaner gun. They get super dirty inside. I am not an expert by any means but this is my opinion. I appreciate yours. Thanks for watching.
I actually had a Sig mpx-K Gen 3 and when I first purchased it I thought I had found ‘my gun’. The ergos were PHENOMENAL. Best I’d felt on a firearm. Trigger was awesome. Manual of arms was fantastic. Took it to the range, 5” groups at 15 FEET. Sent it to Sig, they ‘fixed it’ and sent it back. Had the same issue. Sent it back again and tney said it shoots Speer lawman well, and since it shot ONE factory load well, there was nothing wrong. I shot it bare muzzle, their birdcage, tri lug, and suppressed. All same result. I sold it (for a loss) with the disclosure that it was dog manure, and bought an APC9 pro in tan. While it’s not quite as ergonomic, it works, it’s accurate, it’s stout, and I trust the company, I couldn’t hit steel more than 2/10 at 75m with the mpx from bench. I do 8-9/10 with the apc freehand. I’ll never buy another Sig that’s mot a 365
@@alexlevinson8629 It seems that sig can be very hit or miss with quality control. I think they are pumping out more and more different products but quality control may suffer. Thanks for watching
@@alexlevinson8629 what mag version did you get on the apc9
@@alexlevinson8629 Wow man that sucks to hear. I was truly blown away with mine. it shoots 2in groups from standing at 50 yards! I am no expert either just an avid shooter. I have the gen 3 k model with the 4.5in barrel. Mines been a dream so far.
I recently got my wife an apc9k pro and it’s amazing although I wish it was the longer version it’s definitely a great tool!
Hello. Yes. Love it. The K is scary 😟 short because I worry about hand so close to the muzzle. The PRO is perfect with hand stop ✋. Thanks for watching. Enjoy the gun
I been watching these MPX videos for a while and thought Gen 3 was a 4-in barrel with a timney trigger
They made gen 3 8inch barrel. Not many but they are out there. Tbanks for watching. Please consider subscribing. More videos to come
Could you please list what model Holosun Sights you were running on those, along with the Braces. The sight appears to be a *HE510C-GR*
but I can't be a 100% sure. Thanks!
Yes. HOLOSUN 510C With green reticle. Thanks for watching
i like the mpx but i live in NH.
Well. All the braces are now illegal. I didn’t feel like SBR ing them. Sold for what I paid before ban came into effect. Thanks for watching
What brace is that on the APC9?
Haga defense brace with tail hook thanks for watching !
but is it smooth?
The B&T IS VERY VERY smooth. Has been extremely accurate and reliable. Thanks for watching
@@K-MAN-ik2pz Would you say that the Sig is NOT smooth then? or not as soft?
Smooth !!!
Completely disagree with the final assessment. Don't pay that much for a lazy blockback design. The MPX is a proper piston operated gas system with a rotating and locking bolt. Also if you're having accuracy issues with the MPX, get that sorted. It's capable of being more accurate and while it is already a softer shooting gun than maybe any other PCC except for maybe the MP5, the factory guns are a little overgassed. Get an In Lead We Trust barrel and you'll have a much more accurate version with much softer shooting. Also get a proper stock for the MPX. That awful brace they give you compared to the super nice brace on the APC9 (which cost proabably $600 extra) is giving you way more control so maybe it feels soft shooting and accurate for that reason, but again it's a primitive blowback system that's never going to shoot as soft or as reliably all things equal.
Salty much? There’s a reason why the military is going with the apc9 pro.
if you havent shot an apc9 your opinion is invalid
@@CLASSxACT Don't care at all. Are you saying the military makes the best choices when it comes to weapons? I could have an APC9 Pro tomorrow if I wanted. Unfortunately I'm not going to pay more than a Scorpion costs for a direct blowback gun.
@@Blxzers I've shot them plenty, as well as the TP9 and GHM9. Every one of my friends that have ever owned an APC9 has sold it so far as I'm aware. I could pick one up tomorrow if I wanted to but I know they're unimpressive blowback junk that's only expensive because it has a nice build quality. If you like it cause you think it looks cool then good for you, but don't pretend it's cutting edge or as good of a system in any way compared to the short stroke operated MPX.
@@draggboy I own a apc9 pro and I’ve shot hundreds of rounds through a mpx. The mpx is a great gun but the Quality and reliability of the apc9 is second to none. The apc might be a blow back but paired with the hydraulic buffering system makes it makes it a pleasure to shoot. The only thing that the mpx has against the apc9 is the mags, although I’ve never had a problem with mine. Have you had the chance to shoot a B&t?