Christian Schult - was für ein traumhafter Sprecher für solche Dokumentationen. Diese Stimme brennt sich ähnlich ein wie Manfred Lehmann’s “20 Prozent auf alles, außer Tiernahrung”, das wirste auch niemals wieder los.
Ich war vor 2 Wochen dort zur Besichtigung. Wirklich beeindruckend. Die riesigen Öfen, Zangen und vor allem die gigantischen, teils über 100 t schweren, rotglühenden Werkstücke. Selbst wenn man 50m weit weg steht, kann man wegen der Wärmestrahlen kaum direkt hinschauen. Auf jeden Fall einen Blick wert!
I have so much respect for the minds who design, build and run these factories which make our life possible by the technology and service they deliver. If someone wants to see real magic, i believe its hidden in places like this one running with failsafe teamwork.
So who makes the equipment that makes the steel, the giant claws and chains etc? What would the life cycle be of the huge chain that rotates the hot steel? It is all so amazing!
It's incredible that people can make all those machines. Like, everything you see is at least 10cm thick metal, every single part of that factory needs to be handled by crane..
Dankeschone!!!! I loved watching those guys at work. I bet many of them are Journeymen or Masters who have completed a very thorough Apprenticeship program. I've worked with German Apprentices - they are as good if not better than College graduates and are far more modest and competent too!
200 000 euros sounds like a lot but when you see all the work done on that 80 tons shaft, it doesn't sound too bad. I wonder how much time it takes to make it, tho.
ich arbeite auch im stahlwerk aber im video arbeiten die wie im letzten jahrhundert dagegen ist bei uns high tech - respect an die jungs die da arbeiten
They use an "Electric arc furnace" where the metal to be melted is heated by passing electric current through it. Google for "Electric arc furnace wiki". Between 400 and 900 volts and 44000 amperes can melt 80 tons of steel in an hour (source Wikipedia).
Dear Sir Very good demo of Alloy Steel Melting,Pouring, Forging to THE REQUIRED SIZE,Quenching,Turning...etc(for heavy duty shafts ) Warm Regards S S Rao
Thanks for ya time on that chap! I was just woundering as the side walls of the oven are glowing aswell, but obviously heat passes object to object dont it.
someone asked why shafts this big aren` t cast: The forging process doesn´t only give the wanted shape to a workpiece but it will be strengthened too. Forged shafts have a better metallurgic strength than cast ones : I am a Metallworker , doing turning and milling , the process after forging the metal but I like to be part of the metalworker business
What exactly is this for? The only things I can think of that would require such a huge part is a container ship or something. Is it the propellor shaft? Or what?
У меня ряд вопросов к вам : усилие пресса , возможность манипулятора без помощи кантователя по весу слитка , какой вес слитка куется на данном видео .По внешнему виду слиток весом от 75-80 т , а используемые цепи в работе имеют возможность работать с весом не более 60-70 т. А еще + вес осадочной плиты . Мы работаем с цепями якорного типа - они более подходящие для работы с такими весами . Мои вопросы являются для меня интересными , как для кузнеца на прессах находящего давно на пенсии. Всем кузнецам здоровья и достойной оплаты !!!!
In EAF metal is heated by means of electric current; steel is made from scrap. In Basic Oxygen Furnaces steel is made from pig iron and scrap, and heat comes from burning carbon, silicon, and manganese which are dissolved in iron, when furnace is blown with oxygen. For 160t converter it is about 350 cubic meters of oxygen per minute. Furnaces used to reheat steel, as shown here are heated with coal gas, blast furnace gas, or natural gas (if there isn't complete steel mill nearby).
I thought you english was native until i saw the end. :) But mine are not english as well. But yes that is true now when you mentioned it about these bubbles, didnt thought about that and something this huge have to be sturdy to 100%, tnx!
Power generation maybe? Propeller turbines on a hydroelectric setup? I can't imagine much else that would require something that big to rotate... I'm curious as to what these are for.
Er sagt: "tausende Tonnen pressen das glühende Werkstück in die gewünschte Form" He says: "thousands of tons press the glowing workpiece into the desired shape"
+whiteknightcat - I know it has something do do with Wiener Schnitzel, they said it like 5 times, plus you see the big steel hot dog duh. And a STINKY hotdog mentioned at 2:38
Sehr gute Informationen , ich hätte gerne mit der Produktionen im Verbindung , leider habe ich keine Kontak person so zu erreichen. Können Sie bitte mehr Info geben ???? , bitte direkt Info nicht über vetretungen in Indonesien. MfG aus Indonesien.
7:40 Its quite cool to se that a huge slab of glowing iron doesnt make the water boil imidiatly due to the leidenfrost effect, but when the iron cool down it would boil like hell. Btw, why isnt this cast?
I have had very poor results applying these forging and heat-treating procedures to large pieces of oak and maple. Welding these materials together is also very frustrating.
Christian Schult - was für ein traumhafter Sprecher für solche Dokumentationen. Diese Stimme brennt sich ähnlich ein wie Manfred Lehmann’s “20 Prozent auf alles, außer Tiernahrung”, das wirste auch niemals wieder los.
Aufnahmen von solchen Herstellungsverfahren bekommt man selten zu sehen, obwohl auch dafür eine erhebliche Neugier besteht. Danke für dieses Video.
Ich war vor 2 Wochen dort zur Besichtigung. Wirklich beeindruckend. Die riesigen Öfen, Zangen und vor allem die gigantischen, teils über 100 t schweren, rotglühenden Werkstücke. Selbst wenn man 50m weit weg steht, kann man wegen der Wärmestrahlen kaum direkt hinschauen. Auf jeden Fall einen Blick wert!
I have so much respect for the minds who design, build and run these factories which make our life possible by the technology and service they deliver. If someone wants to see real magic, i believe its hidden in places like this one running with failsafe teamwork.
You are so right. Manipulating this massive ingot and hammer forging to delicate specifications is a skill few possess
Würde sowas gerne mal LIVE sehen!Sehr beeindruckend !!🥰🥰😎💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻👌🏻
So who makes the equipment that makes the steel, the giant claws and chains etc? What would the life cycle be of the huge chain that rotates the hot steel? It is all so amazing!
SMS Group in germany for example 😉
It's incredible that people can make all those machines. Like, everything you see is at least 10cm thick metal, every single part of that factory needs to be handled by crane..
Just search for SMS Group, one of the biggest manufacturer for those machines.😉
Interesssant, was so alles bei uns in der Stadt hergestellt wird
Vielen Dank! Perfektes Anschauungsvideo für das Maschinenbaustudium!
those chips are big enough to be machined again
U can say that again... Ha haa...they cannot even fit on my lathe...
Alles Deutsche Qualitäts Arbeit.
Amazing work love how metal is formed
i didnt understand but i feel more manly now
same
Maros Kozej 165t are forged freely
Me as welder watching this in awe, gimme gimme all this molten metal, pure joy
Dankeschone!!!!
I loved watching those guys at work. I bet many of them are Journeymen or Masters who have completed a very thorough Apprenticeship program. I've worked with German Apprentices - they are as good if not better than College graduates and are far more modest and competent too!
Just pure and utter creation in its rawest form i love it!
You would not want to drop that on your big toe...:)...Nice work I can tell the finished pieces are as near to perfect as can be.
200 000 euros sounds like a lot but when you see all the work done on that 80 tons shaft, it doesn't sound too bad. I wonder how much time it takes to make it, tho.
1 week :)
Great workers and great skill!
ich arbeite auch im stahlwerk aber im video arbeiten die wie im letzten jahrhundert dagegen ist bei uns high tech - respect an die jungs die da arbeiten
rob dem naja das video ist vermutlich auch schon älter...
Aaaaah.... wenn ich schon Schlacke höre geht mir das geimpfte auf. Es ist Zunder!!! Schlacke gibts nur bei der Herstellung von Roheisen und Stahl...
They use an "Electric arc furnace" where the metal to be melted is heated by passing electric current through it. Google for "Electric arc furnace wiki". Between 400 and 900 volts and 44000 amperes can melt 80 tons of steel in an hour (source Wikipedia).
Der Stahl ist WARM!! Ein Frauenarsch ist Heiß !
Lol
💞
germans make the best steel.
swedens are good too. Stiga for example
Volvo vs Tiger VI
Actually Austria 72% of the Steel Worldwide are produced with the Linz-Donawitz process from Vöest Alpine
We used to do pretty well in the UK until Thatcher and the unions got together to destroy our industries.
Richtig
Dear Sir
Very good demo of Alloy Steel Melting,Pouring, Forging to THE REQUIRED SIZE,Quenching,Turning...etc(for heavy duty shafts )
Warm Regards
S S Rao
Glad to see that your site doing good.
RC
Shut up piece of shit
How the hell do you get the ovens that hot?!
lots of gas and thermal brick insulation
WOW. Those machines are HUGEEEEEEE!
200.000€. ich hätte mehr geschätzt
+Viktor Hofer
Sehe das genauso.
Viktor Hofer wtf für ein einige tonnen stahl so viel?!
Die Tonnen Material plus die viel teurere Produktion, die die Materialkosten übertreffen. Hätte auch weit mehr gedacht.
Georg Wagner das Material ist nicht das teuere. Das ist das Know-how
wir verkaufen Bleche . Da kosten 2.5T schon 5.000 € .... die werden deutlich schneller hergestellt
Cool im from sweden and after a while i started to understand what he was saying.
Never had my jaw hanging for 8 straight minutes before in my life
Thanks for ya time on that chap! I was just woundering as the side walls of the oven are glowing aswell, but obviously heat passes object to object dont it.
LOOK at the size of those chips coming off that lathe!!!!!!!! OMG
someone asked why shafts this big aren` t cast: The forging process doesn´t only give the wanted shape to a workpiece but it will be strengthened too. Forged shafts have a better metallurgic strength than cast ones : I am a Metallworker , doing turning and milling , the process after forging the metal but I like to be part of the metalworker business
Отличная работа ! Привет с Луганска .
Can someone tell me what are the final pieces they make?
Unglaublich faszinierend, echt beeindruckend. Gibt es davon eine lange Doku ?
Awesome SCALE!
this is so fucking awesome.
What exactly is this for? The only things I can think of that would require such a huge part is a container ship or something. Is it the propellor shaft? Or what?
Absolutely awesome!
GERÇEKTEN ADAMLARIN MÜKKEMMEL AĞIR SANAYİSİ VAR TAKTİR ETMEMEK ELDE DEĞİL
Meddl, Loide!
Klasse Hosenträger, der Bediener hat wohl in der Schule nicht aufgepasst. Bei uns hätte so einer schon zur Personalabteilung gemusst + Abmahnung.
hat er bestimmt von seinem Kollegen Schichtmeister Adolf H. geschenkt bekommen^^ 4:01
У меня ряд вопросов к вам : усилие пресса , возможность манипулятора без помощи кантователя по весу слитка , какой вес слитка куется на данном видео .По внешнему виду слиток весом от 75-80 т , а используемые цепи в работе имеют возможность работать с весом не более 60-70 т. А еще + вес осадочной плиты . Мы работаем с цепями якорного типа - они более подходящие для работы с такими весами . Мои вопросы являются для меня интересными , как для кузнеца на прессах находящего давно на пенсии. Всем кузнецам здоровья и достойной оплаты !!!!
In EAF metal is heated by means of electric current; steel is made from scrap. In Basic Oxygen Furnaces steel is made from pig iron and scrap, and heat comes from burning carbon, silicon, and manganese which are dissolved in iron, when furnace is blown with oxygen. For 160t converter it is about 350 cubic meters of oxygen per minute. Furnaces used to reheat steel, as shown here are heated with coal gas, blast furnace gas, or natural gas (if there isn't complete steel mill nearby).
Thanks for that info. Cool.
I thought you english was native until i saw the end. :) But mine are not english as well.
But yes that is true now when you mentioned it about these bubbles, didnt thought about that and something this huge have to be sturdy to 100%, tnx!
Power generation maybe? Propeller turbines on a hydroelectric setup? I can't imagine much else that would require something that big to rotate...
I'm curious as to what these are for.
phuturephunk they said it's for generators in power plants and ship engines. One costs 200000€ on average
phuturephunk the larger diameter ones look like turbo-generator rotor forgings without the slots cut in them for the copper winding.
phuturephunk Ship anchors!
I think it's for my makita hand drill
not Anchors! Generator Shafts, or for big Ships
шикарное оборудование!
Imagine how much bigger they will be in another 50 years.
Er sagt: "tausende Tonnen pressen das glühende Werkstück in die gewünschte Form"
He says: "thousands of tons press the glowing workpiece into the desired shape"
При всей моей неприязни к немцам, культура производства у них на уровне. Есть чему поучиться.
@alchenist I totally agree with you. For normal people this is unimaginable!
Great job!!!
Would have gotten a lot more out of this if they'd narrated in English. Where the heck do they think they are, anyway? Germany?
grmasdfII
Спасибо.
+whiteknightcat Да незачто,ёпт.
+whiteknightcat - I know it has something do do with Wiener Schnitzel, they said it like 5 times, plus you see the big steel hot dog duh. And a STINKY hotdog mentioned at 2:38
+whiteknightcat 200 pieces like this one they make in one year.Without english. ;-)
@@jbrabec6811 wut?
wonder how long ..at room temp ..it would take that block to cool down to room temp ...a week?? two??
Excellent video
DAS IST DIE PERFEKTE WELLE :D
Danke für den Tipp. ^^
Weiss jemand welchen durchmesser die Zahnräder dabei haben?
Cheers for that dude, i feel abit more educated!
Schmelzend und kochend is aber schon nen leichter unterschied - also nur um sicher zu gehen: gasförmig wurde der Stahl nich oder?
much bigger than what we can forge.
ドイツの工業力はやっぱりすごいわ
6:46 sieht so aus wie der Knauf eines Schwertes! :)
Eye protection?
That's amazing how big that machine is lol
Man that was amazing but what are they?
crankshafts, shafts in general for turbines, for wind turbines, ships
Thanks mate👍
That looks like a drive shaft on my chevy
Pick up.
Sehr gut
best way to promote german language.
alguien que me pueda decir que utilidad o que fin tienen esos colosales pedazos de metal que están trabajando
+SAS Ejes de generador ......
Gracias...
faszinierend!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone notice this place? This is the same place the "How it's made: steel forging" episode was made
Is there an English sub titled version of this?
+wildcat19671 no... this is a german secret...
No
That's one big hot log right there
bis zu 14cm stahl dreht die drehmaschine ab....und bei mir in der lehrwerkstatt sind die drehmaschinen bei 6mm zustellung stehen geblieben :D
Thanks man!
Faszinierend
Sehr gute Informationen ,
ich hätte gerne mit der Produktionen im Verbindung , leider habe ich keine Kontak person so zu erreichen.
Können Sie bitte mehr Info geben ???? , bitte direkt Info nicht über vetretungen in Indonesien.
MfG
aus Indonesien.
Дааа, большая железяка...
😊 Interessant👍
7:40 Its quite cool to se that a huge slab of glowing iron doesnt make the water boil imidiatly due to the leidenfrost effect, but when the iron cool down it would boil like hell.
Btw, why isnt this cast?
the steel behaves differently depending on if it is cast or forged.
@@blockstacker5614 8 years later I know this, but tnx anyway.
what did they make
I'd love to spend a day at that plant. What tolerances can be held on that CNC lathe?
Voiceover says something about 0.5mm precision
That's amazing considering the size of the parts they're making.
Kein Video der aktuellen, modernen Saarschmiede.
país top !
What did he say ?
Wow ! 💪👏👏👏
Cool info, that means 2000 euros for electricity based on 40MW*50eur/MW.. Though these manufacturers probably get a better price..
kolay gelsin iyi çalışmalar
os cara são foda
"...hot stuff coming through!"
Perhaps you should try using Ironwood?
Terminator music gets me jacked
Saludos, mi pregunta es por que no se derrite el caldero que usan?
GRACIAS,GRACIAS!!
Pretty awesome
I have had very poor results applying these forging and heat-treating procedures to large pieces of oak and maple.
Welding these materials together is also very frustrating.
Надпись на станке: Осторожно стружка может упасть на ногу))
Lawn ornaments! I want one.
boah! wahnsinn!