Ash Sarkar Meets Akala | Race and Class in the Ruins of Empire
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- čas přidán 25. 05. 2024
- Ash Sarkar spoke to Akala about the white working class, conscious rap and politics, Britishness and his new book Natives: Race and Class in the Ruins of Empire.
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The way he talks and holds your attention is amazing
Yes, you always know he will be interesting.
He can be pretentious & annoying, though...
Absolute genius I’m addicted to listening to this guy I’ve learnt so much just watching all his interview👍🏾🇧🇩🇬🇧
You should read his book, or better listen to the audiobook! Amazing stuff, super insightful
In my country, flying the Mexican flag is a sign of disrespect. i never understand why immigrants wave their flag on foreign lands. Why not return to you home country. By the way, I am an immigrant.
@@christina7215 Marry me.
Alberto Gutierrez stfu
A smoking ChickenFish immigrants make up the USA unless your Native American my dude
It puts it into perspective when he says Jamaica was run by England since before the union with Scotland.
Well it was just a bit of sand in the ocean back then, Scotland has its own history with the noisy neighbors
@@TheDeeeeench eh?
wdirtymonkey the entity of Jamaica didn’t exist before the British made it a productive place to live and export goods...
Seneca’s Adoptive Son
It's just a shame that the extremely wealthy siave- owning, plantation masters didn't take British and Europeans over there, voluntarily, for a new start in the beatiiful sunshine and paid and housed them well and they'd still be very wealthy.
But absolute greed made them steal people from Africa and when in Jamaica etc treated them in the appalling way they did
@@jordank1489 clearly you never read history. The indigenous Arawak people lived in the Island for thousands of years, then the Spanish invaded and started shipping enslaved Africans. By the time the British defeated the Spanish and took charge of the island there were already established settlements not a "bit of sand in the ocean" dinlo.
"The underclass within the black underclass is being used as a weapon against the people who are the primary victims of their crimes" - Beautifully articulated, as always, and so loaded with truth.
JellyBean18:
That is so true---in fact, that's been happening to black people in America for decades. Honestly, a lot of the issues he talks about British black people going through and dealing with are very similar (despite the obvious historical differences bwt us) to what black people have been going through in the U.S.----the only two differences being that we didn't come to America voluntarily,and we're been battling those same issues much longer here.
@@alondathomas293 And you don't respect black Americans. Because you perceived them as not having autonomy, knowing the difference between right and wrong, having agency, and personal responsibility. Observe Black America in the 1950"s and now.
@@albertogutierrez8653:
Excuse me? I am a black American myself, so what the hell are you even talking about?
@@alondathomas293 Your skin color does not think! So what is you point? I don't care that you are black, just like you should not care that I am brown. Why so triggered? So being black holds you above others. You don't respect black people.
JellyBean18
I'm a very intelligent and educated person but I've no idea what that quote means. I wish I did but I don't.
Mind you, I'm very tired and in pain so that's my excuse
Could somebody explain it in a plain simple one sentence baby language?
Ta
It costs more to send a man to prison than educate him. That's insane. 🤔
Why the fuck doesn't he educate himself?
@@JohnSmith-su3ze Same way that a homeless man isn't able to get a house
@@george4281 Why because he's lazy? Has shitty parents? Has no sense of personal responsibility/
@@JohnSmith-su3ze If only it were that simple.....
@@dominicjosiah2901 It is not simple. But society cannot take responsibility or assume such for people who do not live up to the average expectations of the society. That is communism and it never worked in reality. Here is some hard reality though : 600.000 human beings are SLAVES today in Mauritania and that place is not alone in practicing SLAVERY in 2021. Who is to solve that problem?
I come from poor whites. My family were poor and we lived in squats. We were homeless. My family never had a pot to piss in. When I talk to some black people about my family being poor I find them very surprised. I’m no way rich now. I would say i’m Still poor. I love listening Ash Sarkar and Akala He make the most sense talking about class and race intelligent and clear. Thanks for being real and true. The class system is diverse.
As a 62 yr old white Englishman I have only recently come across Akala. I can't claim to like his music but his words are startling. Whenever I hear him speak he comes across as learned, erudite and exceedingly smart. That he does so honestly, without pretending to be something he is not and without losing his roots, is all the more amazing.
Comes across - I like the suspicions
@@doovbaloevera1430 There is no suspicion.
You seem to have taken two words out of context and added your own interpretation by ignoring everything else I said.
Please read my full comment again.
Yes he’s a scholar 😅
@@hallie6269Yet he's sooooo impressed on how he (How do they say it?) "speaks so well"🤣🤣🤣🤣!!! Willful ignorance is for the fearful!
This interview has made me understand the experience of the UK diaspora, we’ve mostly been exposed to the USA black experience. As a South African I find it so interesting to see my own ignorance.
Let me tell you, Akala is mostly wrong.
@@fuckamericanidiot could you elaborate on where in this video he is wrong?
@@fuckamericanidiot Yeah, don't bother making even a cursory gesture at developing a coherent argument to back your point up; just say WRONG and sit back smugly - another lefty was owned today.
How can we possibly stand up to such intellectual might?
@@suziemoffatt9877 What a surname... Any relation to Scarlett ?..
I want a girl to look at me the way Ash looks at Akala.
LOL she is definitely an attentive listener!
i dont think she fancies him, she respects him...which is more important.
I kinda fancy her, but Akala is a good bloke. Better him than me to be honest.
Henry Fung .... they prefer the term ‘native american’ not ‘indian’
Terry Dacktill 'Indian' is Asian. 'Native American' is North American. Difference...
Akala is a true legend most respected voice in UK history 🙌❤️🔥
Whenever I listen to Akala with a more critical ear and not just being taken in by his raw intelligence, abundant knowledge and charisma I am always left wondering what does he actually stand for. He is brilliant at critiquing the problems, analysing what's wrong and that's all he seems to do. And that will always draw an audience as people love to feel they are on the side of righteousness standing against the dark forces of evil. That seems to get the dopamine flowing in the brain. (I am no exception)
So, to my surprise at about 20.45 minutes in, he is asked what policy would he offer up to the government if asked - and this is it: -
"REMOVE" troublesome/troubled kids from the cities, 12 years of age and older and put them on farms in Cambridge, train them get them to swim in the lake with the benefit that the kids who do want to study won't be distracted or stopped from studying whilst youth workers can work with the troubled youth on these community run 'boarding schools'.
Sounds like Borstal to me! And who is going to be in charge of 'removing' kids and sending them to 'farms'. I don't believe this is the way to go, though others may disagree. It's nothing more than an idea straight out of the Babylon pocketbook to identify the rotten eggs and segregate them based on class and race.
Akala - give some more time to meditating on what the vision can be for humanity overall and share that some time. I and am sure others would love to hear what your super brain would come up with.
unfortunately far left, like far right, is authoritarian and wrongly assumes the moral high ground to "know what's best".
He very clearly said "community" run boarding schools. Moved by people who "understand" them. People who grew up in similar circumstances and areas who are older/wiser.
Listen better before you criticise.
I actually thought about some of his lyrics the other day and his main point is knowledge is power but also his other lyric absolute power corrupts absolutely so by his very lyric the smarter you get the more corrupt you become. He actually seems to exhibit a lot of Luciferian qualities also
What an excellent interview with some really well thought-out questions!
I see young people like these 2 and it gives me hope for the future
@@kylio95 Yeah, whatever!! 🙄
@@kylio95 Amen.
@@kylio95 racist? How so...
As a minority, they are racist. How can you live like this. History has made life miserable to every human on the planet.
@PurelyAfrican young enough . youth ends at 35 in our neck of the woods.
Hello Ash, keep up the great job you do. My support from Bolivia! I am proud that young people are defending ordinary people.
Shit I hope you guys are doing alright.
Ash bringing back the black and white tracksuit. Wish it never went out of fashion.
Adidas, still run by same family of Adolf “adi” Dassler, joined Nazi party for profit & funded Hitler youth. Can never understand why anybody could wear this gear. Nazi party who did away with gypsies, Jews, coloured people, people with any form of disability.
@@julietunbridge2124 Most of the British and American companies also have a similar history of wrongdoing but I guess I didn't know that about Adidas so thanks
It never has...
This is a brilliant interview. As a white-working class Englishman, who does sometimes romanticise the culture/history (although not the state) it's really useful to hear Akala put things in perspective. Deffo getting my hands on the book.
Lol, stop being a bitch.
TheCausation well that’s just... your opinion, man.
Race baiting racist who's built a career indulging morons
Can you point me to any point in this interview where Akala race-baits? On the contrary, all I've ever seen him do is call for working class solidarity. Read his work and you will see that he continually points at that Whites in Easter House, Croxteth, Sunderland, etc, all suffer from the same kinds of barriers to success. If merely pointing out that racism exists in society is "race-baiting" then I think you are being a snowflake. We need cross-community solidarity and solutions for all. At the same time, we need flexible policies that are relevant for each community. Akala talks sense.
Paul Judkins I didn't demonise it. Neither did Akala.
"If people listen to rap music and it drives them to believe that every young black boy sells crack and shoots people, that's their own stupidity" -- Simple uncommon sense like this defines Akala. He's on another level to most.
Ugh no, the point is that the listener identifies with the culture and the values the rap music portrays
Akala's quote is so insanely stupid
@harry flashman lmao! Doesn't even make sense. Please explain further?
@@JohnSmith-su3ze says person with a stupid response.
@harry flashman lmfao this time! None of your cryptic response is remotely relevant to the original comment. You must be bored, huh?
Don't worry @yesitstkm, there's always one 'John Smith'
Amazing how many people don’t know that some of the worst legacies of the British empire; Iranian coup, the Malayan emergency, and the Korean War, all happened under Clement Attlee.
ok, so Attlee was responsible for the Korean war..
maybe the USA and their anti-communist hysteria had a bit to do with it
Andrew Hodges He wasn’t responsible but he didn’t have to follow the US.
Andrew Hodges We weren’t innocent of anti communist hysteria either btw.
Andrew Hodges. Or maybe even the pro -Communist North Koreans and Chinese who were hell bent in enslaving the peoples of South Korea had a bit to do with it as well, but hey! What's a few million dead in the gulags between us comrades, right?
Half way through your book and I’m thoroughly enjoying it hope you continue on this path and publish more books in the future.
The book is class. Waiting for the next one.
Great question, Great response
Akala always humble but with a powerful knowledge! Thumbs up ladies and gentle men!
By powerful, do you mean a marxist reframing of history? Because that's what it is.
I wish these two would do a documentary mini series for mainstream tv on these themes to fill in these gaps in British history and education. The book is awesome. Recommend it.
@Alvida Hamesha I am a proud brown supremacist.
@@albertogutierrez8653 You cant be a supremacist without being supreme.
And your name is Spanish anyway.
@@daftwod You have a great logical mind. Good luck with that. 🤣
@@albertogutierrez8653 Supreme use of emojis.
@@woeisme1261 u ok hun x
What a brilliant interview! I love it from about 21:00 to the end, where he highlights the link between school exclusions and the predictability of crime and incarceration. His suggestion of boarding schools is really interesting, but I'd go a step further to suggest a profound review of our entire schooling system - which I just can't refer to as education in any real sense of the word. At the moment, it's plumbed the depths of institutional systematic abuse, and distorts the life perspective of pretty well all who are exposed to it, including the teachers. The kids don't like it, the parents don't like it, and the teachers don't like it - and no-one likes the social problems it creates. Coincidentally, I've been writing an article on precisely this topic this evening not that long before watching this. Thanks both of you for a riveting 25 minutes. And I'm going to buy that book - but not from Amazon...
What a wonderfully thoughtful interviewer.
This is my first encounter with Ash Sarkar - definitely gonna start following her work, too.
...and mine with Akala, cool guy. This in '21, can we resurrect J.C. ? It's got precedence...
Ash is Killing it at the moment
This is why I love this guy, and regardless of your race you should too.
"they discovered there are poor white people!" - that reminds me of my own feeling when i first came to Moscow, having been born in a small provincial town in the middle of Russia. i'd believed Moscow is the city of rich people, and the closer you get to Moscow the richer the people. turned out, most people anywhere are working class)))
Mongolia conquered Russia and half of Europe in the 1200's and Russians were still finding Russian slaves in the Asian khanates in the late 1800s. That's 600 years of slavery.
Great interview. Anyone who hasn't got his book yet should do so immediately
I'm so glad there are people out there who can see the ideal end point but also understand that we have to get there in small steps to ensure we never fall backwards. I always have "skip to the end" in my head (a la "Spaced") but looking at any change, however small, in history, I realise, it takes time to embed a new normal into the mind of the everyday folks.
Very good interview, thank you and well done.
Agreed. Nice ALF symbol.
Did you know that Akala's Mum is from the Island of South Uist in the Outer Hebrides and was a native Gaelic speaker?
I guess that's because he spent his childhood in London and not the north of Scotland. Also even 100% white kids follow black culture more than traditional British culture. I am not saying there is anything wrong with that its just a statement of fact.
He does say it in most of his talks. He talks about his mother and his Scottish side including his grandfather from the outer Hebrides. He does say that he used to visit him but not often because of the distance..
My grandparents live on the Island of North Uist in the Outer Hebrides and I spent my childhood in England so I can confirm that it was a pretty long journey.
not sure he spoke Gaelic but yes ...he's half Scottish
@@revol148 lol. There's no money in scottish history. In scotland our history is being ignored now. It's all lgbt, the joy of refugees and equality for women. Pushing back against whiteness is a theme that is being taught. Akela epitomises the rubbing out of white achievements. He barely talks about what happened when blacks revolted in Haiti and attacked each other because his narrative says it would all be great if it wasnt for whites. His isnt the truth, its somewhere in the middle.
Always learn new things about history when listening to Akala. Thanks for this :)
Always hear BS when listening to ... thx.
Its called reframing history through a marxist lens.
This was amazing. Great conversation. Always learn a lot from Akala 👏🏾
Omg Akala's fucking amazing and great interview by Ash
Great suggestion with diverting funds to community public boarding schools (for those who want to board). Powerful, even. It would be transformative
Loved this interview!
Yes! Thank you for this wonderful interview!
As a South African I can relate.
I had no idea about the Atlee government. Learning so much from Akala.
Apologies for not acknowleding Novara Media. All you guys are brilliant
Reading Akala’s book, it’s brilliant, everyone should read it. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I'm so glad I discovered this channel after Ash Sarkar lit up Piers Morgan on his own show. Also Akala made a great point about Britain's focus on Americas history of racism, and how it's a subtle way to divert attention from our own history.
Like when I was in school, we only learned about the plantations in the USA. There was little to no mention of the British slave colonies of Jamaica or Barbados. We just watched roots, and learned about how evil the Americans were.
Lol.
And how is this helpful economically? Just learn how to make things and poverty will die out of black communities.
@Do what you must, I have already won Yeah that's the problem, people don't care
+maydate86 Ok, boomer.
+ Do what you must. lol shut the fuck up moron.
Akalia is a great scholar, poet and comrade too
Comrade being 100% the operative word for you marxist failures.
Comrade? You do realise communism has killed 100 million, right?
The host, ( Ash) has done a brilliant job, asking active / intelligent and engaging questions.. always wonderful to see women using their intelligence..
we always do 🤣
Agree with akala, 💯 I remember in the eighties taking trips too various parts of the UK. As a result it exposed me too many scenarios that helped along the way, independence, overconing many early life lessons that I feel young people now do not have. As akala says it would be cheaper to send all those people in jail than to imprison them. Is this another syndicate that would rather benefit from people demise than see them prosper. We all have a responsibility to to make it better for the next generations and should all work together to HELP the youth as they are the future.
can't wait to read this book. we need more intellectuals like Akala
All relations between people must be seen in its specific context. Britain is not France is not the Netherlands. Thank you for your subtle discours.
Brilliant interview... didnt even know about this channel until they interviewed Akala.
Ash Sarkar is such an incredible mind - so eloquent, shes definitely one to watch! Two really clever dudes here..
Noooo. You moron.
Genius!! So illuminating. Thank you for sharing; so interesting and well researched.
Love Akala, he just left me speechless most of the time
This guy is the single most compelling voice on race relations in Britain that I have ever heard.
You really need to get out more
Watch 'Thomas Sowell' if you really want to hear a black person speak the truth
Thanks for this interview. Always learn and enjoy a better life view from Akala.👍🏽👏🏾🙏🏽
These Two!
They’ve both got soo much going on & together are a perfect partnership & formidable force.
They’re quick, cool, smart, skilful, intelligent, articulate, not to mention spectacular.. and I’m sure the list of superlatives goes on.. no doubt..
let me know what you’d add to the list?
@Jonny O.P Learn grammar you dumb fuck. Of course it’s Superlative language.
Adolescent Bitchin'
Beautiful
Excellent interview! Well done both..
Great interview, Akala is a dude and always worth listening to and excellent questions from Ash. Wonder if humanity will ever get past focusing on pseudo differences such as skin colour and focus instead on the things we all have in common.
Thank you for such and informative and eye opening video! Ash Sarkar has amazingly beautiful skin by the way! Peace.
Only just found this. Love Akala, and love you guys! Recently found your channel and I'm so happy to see a genuine lefty media outlet from the UK. I've got Akala's graphic novel, it's stunning.
Oh my god, two of my favourite people!
Really enjoyed this conversation, learnt a lot!
Excellent views of the impact of British Empire, so insightful. Looking through a mirror from the back of the frame. Caribbean examples are so revealing and shine a light into darkest ideology.
he needs his own tv show
SO TRUE SO TRUE
The claim that irish people in Kilburn were an oppressed minority in the 1990s is totally risble.
@Andrew Martin "risble." ?
Loved the freshness and vital authenticity of this interview. Great rapport between Akala and Ash. Big up #northlondon massive. Oneness.
asian girls like ASH goes through so much racism.
Thank you. Very Interesting interview. There has been black people in Britain a long time. My family alone been here since 1846
Akalia is an inspiration and my bro at least before he was a poet and a scholar he made mistakes but at least he's human
Oh look, two of my favourite people in a room together. ❤️
Such a great interview. Wish there were more interviews like this. I can't wait to read his book.
I came to the uk in 2015 as a black Barbadian, it was my first time travelling out of the island and I had the same experience seeing poor and working class white people. It baffled me
Fantastic, I'd love to see this followed up in a few years.
I love listening to this man so well spoken. It gos deeper than skin though. I lived in England and was turned away from pubs and clubs because of my accent
Fabulous Idea ...Wonderful Interview... Had to look up 'munted' (old) ...Would love to join you in Ibiza for the very same in '22 thanks Akala and Ash
Great interview 👍
When Akala drops them trews *sighs dreamily*
What is there to dislike if someone shares honestly their views and experiences!
@banks Jay, usually the dislikes are from people who deep done espouse the beliefs he is talking about and it hits a little to close to home.
He's got it.. some special influencial humans grace it's wonderful earth who actually change the world
Akala's vision for an alternative education/support system for disenfranchised inner city youth sounds familiar. In the 1980s, I worked in Inner London Education Authority (ILEA) 'special' boarding schools, situated in towns on the outskirts of London and set up for young people with 'emotional and behavioural difficulties' (EBD) from inner London, working class, often impoverished families, who had been expelled from mainstream schools. The striking and potent difference (that I can imagine) between the boarding school model proposed by Akala and the 1980s version of 'special' schools, is that Akala's schools would be 'community'-led. Fantastic idea.
A real meeting of the mind.
Awesome interview. Thanks!
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So glad this great man talks about growing having a Scottish mum and Jamaican father. Not many folk in London know that
Akala would be an incredible PM.
AKALA FOR PRIMEMINISTER! Been saying it from day.
falloutgirl902 He would probably be forced to lose his edge and become part of the status quo.
Truth of the matter is this country wouldnt be ready for it we claim to be progressive but its merely an illusion.
falloutgirl902 that’s the day this country dies.
Arsenal F.C. Another Nigel Farage supporter huh
R Sosa yeah mate too right,a man who ain’t afraid to speak the truth even though silly people like you think he is a racist😂.
Arsenal F.C. How could I have guessed a Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson supporter trolling in the comment section typical trash!
There were plenty of poor white people in the Caribbean, perhaps further back than Akala's grandparents' time but I mean Muhammad Ali's grandfather was an Irishman and before the wealthy colonialists atomised the two groups, poor white Irish and English people often rebelled alongside their black brethren. See the fantastic book that covers this topic - Caliban and the Witch.
And Scottish Alexander Hamilton.
Blacks generally never went against whites who were down for the cause excluding the unfortunate situation in haiti where whites that were allies were killed by machete. Ironically polish folk were granted immunity
Brilliant interview, keep up the great work!
These 2 are searingly intelligent and on point. All Brits should be made to watch this and learn a bit about their sordid history.
David Britain’s is especially recent, sordid, and under publicised. Let’s get real and stop hiding behind excuses
I need to read his book but I swear he’s too intelligent for me that I probably wouldn’t even understand it. I just love him!!
Kaylah Loves Unicorns you would understand it! Give it a read :-)
That was a great conversation - nice interview. Great video.
Ash is such a good interviewer.
LOVE love love you both, awesome interview. Akala's insight continues to educate my thought process, I love the way he answers questions, the way he thinks about it and accounts for his own biases in every question. Ash did a brilliant job to draw out the answer of course, clearly well versed and thoroughly researched. I'm watching again.
Ash is so so cute
good interview. love this guy. much respect!!!
My two favourite intellectuals !!! 👏👏👏👏👏🎯🎯
Appreciated this.
Great interview. Will buy the book (in paperback!)
Dee Gee there’s an paperback version on amazon
Natives: Race and Class in the Ruins of Empire
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1473661234/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_N4zbBbW7XBCP7
Get the hardback you pervert
Always impressed when hear Akala speak. He is a credit to young black men in Britain.
Thank you Akala. That is a great idea on how to help the youths who get into trouble with the law. Have the government implemented it yet? Well done on your contribution
Great interview! Great guest!
"im literally a communist"
I would recommend anyone listen to all parts of his fire in the booth performances on 1xtra, even if it's not your thing. They are like lyrical TED talks.
Could listen to him talk for days
Excellent reporting.