How a cashed-up gun industry wants to change Australia’s firearms laws | Four Corners
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- You’ve heard of the NRA in America. Well Australia has its own gun lobby too. It’s called SIFA and it’s taking aim at Australia’s politicians.
SIFA’s members include local gun and ammunitions suppliers as well as Australian offshoots of international firearms manufacturers Winchester and Beretta.
Their campaign represents a newly emboldened firearms industry set on changing Australia's gun laws.
In this program, Four Corners investigates the gun industry's political allegiances and how these connections are being used to chip away at gun laws around the country.
Those who delivered the national agreement to limit firearms after the Port Arthur massacre say Australians need to sit up and take notice.
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Airsoft should not be classified as firearms. It's pathetic.
Just use nerf darts my dude, or play paintball. Why do you even need toy guns that shoot tiny pellets that can hit one's eyes?There's plenty of options for toy and sporting projectile launchers. Are you gonna claim that banning those jelly tabs that were choking kids is an attack on gelatin next?
How about people like you stop babying people. Maybe the government shouldn't step on people's enjoyment. It is a HUGE international sport and we are the only 1st world nation that classifies them as such.@@DragoonBoom
@@CondemnedInformer oh I wasn't aware it was a sport. So yeah, let's have it be used as sporting equipment, just like paintball guns. No need to sell either one in toy stores, that's not what they're for.
I mean how does Airsoft work in sports? Do you have to wear eye and body protection? How do you keep track of who was shot or not? It just seems like bad paintball pellets. And I know those aren't banned in Australia.
Look it up. It's huge. You should see the UK and Canada's requirements for the sport. Still restrictive, but still playable and fair. Even NZ has Airsoft. @@DragoonBoom
it's banned for the same reason movie props ("guns" with no internals) are banned - for looking like a firearm therefore can be used to intimidate. what's really pathetic is spitting factually wrong bullshit and getting angry about it.
Imagine lawful firearm owners being responsible for 0.001% of crime yet always being the first to be punished.
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What a shitty argument, why do you need firearms? Every country that has severely restricted firearm accessibility (and has the capability to enforce said restrictions) has insanely low fire arm deaths and or mass shootings. No firearms = no criminals with firearms. No fire arms = no school shootings. In 2020 Germany there where 4.370 cases in which a gun was unlawfully shot, in the same year in the US you had 19.512 people who where killed with fire arms and 39.532 people who where injured with firearms. The numbers don’t lie and all arguments coming form the pro gun lobby are ideological almost religious and they have 0 facts or numbers backing them up.
With every massacre in the US the further our law makers and voting public in Australia would EVER consider those weapons of mass deaths in this country. Good for us but terrible for the America.
@@greatsage4132 people also voted for Hitler and Stalin in a landslide. If given the choice Australians wouldn’t have voted to ban guns. And the Americans will NEVER vote to amend the 2nd amendment.
That is an NRA and Republican argument; It's not about what people who do the right thing "punished", this is about people who can access firearms and inflict terrible harm with them being barred from doing so.
Notice how they play dark music everytime the show people shooting or holding guns .
Talk about playing on people fears. You have to be a victim nowadays, any strong enough to stand up straight on they're own is now being demonized. "Week men make for hard days"
It’s a psyop.
Our government needs to focus on all the illegal firearms being smuggled in to the country and all of the unregistered firearms used by criminals, rather then focusing on licensed people like myself.
Thanks ABC I hadn't heard of SIFA before, I'll be sure to show them my support now...
Same here :)
Me third... Never heard of SIFA or NIOA... Thanks, ABC for networking supporters to rights guaranteeing companies.
Yeah, I don't even care that my real name is linked to this account and I'm almost certainly on some Australian terror watch list for not saying I hate all guns and anyone that doesn't hate guns, totally worth it.
Same here thanks for that ABC left wing
People need the right to firearms, it is a human right
Jordan Huckel same.
Imagine interrupting a CEO of a massive company in the middle of an important meeting and being surprised that he wouldn't want to talk.
Looked like a dodge to me
George Papag should have organized another time. Let the man run his business, he employs Australian tax payers after all.
Lol he's at an Expo, and certainly wasn't in a "meeting"
@meth
It wasn't a meeting it was a bloody trade fair Christopher Pine was there the media were allowed in, seems fair game to me. They were all there to buy and sell guns which usually means talking about guns.
So you KNOW whether 4corners didn't contact Niao before hand. You don't think that maybe that's the only footage they've got of him.
Tellingly he made his attitude toward the reporter clear in the first seconds and he was NOT interested in any meeting at all. That IS the story politicians and gun dealers.
'Important meeting'...geez and you guys want more guns in your hands eh?
The John Howard gun laws changed my attitude. I probably would have had a rifle and maybe an over and under gun in the safe for the odd hunting trip once every few years.
Thanks to Johnny, I spend hundreds a year, I jump through hoops, am forced to go shooting many times a year, and as a result, to make it worth while, I have a gun for every occasion, go hunting many times a year, try my hardest to encourage girls, boys women and men to join me and often go out of my way to lobby for the reversal of Johnny's laws. These laws take away the liberty of the honest Australian person to safety own firearms. Take them off the criminals, not the good guys! I am not alone. You made us Johnny. Well done mate.
Is this sarcasm or genuine happiness for the laws. Cuz if it's supportive and you agree with Howard then I'm with you
@@DAI.H4RD
Are you serious? If scomo took our cars off us ( because they kill more people than guns ever did) would you thank him too? Mate, if you are a mental patient, both should be taken from you but if you are a responsible citizen, you shouldn't have to prove yourself constantly and pay stupid amounts of money for either. A gun in a stable man's hand is nothing more than a tool or a sporting implement. Like a car is transport or a sporting implement. The danger is in the person.
The Battle of Athens TN, Aug. 1 & 2 1946, An American Story. A 1992 Hallmark movie on how a stolen election caused a 6 hour gun battle at a police station & then the use of dynamite to blow open the doors brought justice in 1946 America. 2-300 residents & many were veterans of WW 2 against 2-3 dozen cops. A true use of America's 2nd-Amendment in American history. 3 books also have been written on this since the eighties!!!!! BTW the mayor stole the 1940, 42 & 44 elections by this insurrection in 1946 stopped him!!!!!
With every massacre in the US the further our law makers and voting public in Australia would EVER consider those weapons of mass deaths in this country. Good for us but terrible for the America.
@@DAI.H4RDJohn Howard had open contempt for firearms owners. He considered them as backward and ‘behind the times’. He was gleeful at the aspect of hundreds of thousands of peoples property being destroyed. Many of these having been family heirlooms or holding deep sentimental value. If you understand the laws and look past the media hype you’ll start to see there’s a another side to the story the media doesn’t portray.
That journalist looks like he's get PTSD if you took him out to a paddock and plinked some tin cans with a .22.
Journalist? More like an activist.
talking about paddocks why was that women in one with an ipad and not in the house behind her
A slingshot gives people anxiety here.
@@lnk3503 what’s ya point?
I got PTSD from seeing a wild dog get it's jaw ripped off from a .308 but I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the guy with the rifle
**sees title of video**
**scrolls down**
**sees comments open**
ok this ought to be good
You forgot check dislike like ratio
Exactly what I did too!
lmao same :')
It's full of astroturf gun lobby shills
@@KitschProductions1 Exactly! Just what I was about to say. NRA minions are out in full force today 😂😂😂
I don't own a gun nor am I interested in them, but this is an attention grab after the Christchurch shootings. Reporter and people who set this up can go take a dump. Seems shallow with its timing.
When airsoft is banned and Paintball requires a licence you know there is something wrong. Maybe 4 corners needs to wake up to itself
That is true, when the guns & ammo are banned, next knives & everything else will be banned, this is their long term intention to even ban the locks on our doors of our homes!!!!!!
@@RonSafreed it’ll take about 20-30 years for that to happen in every country including American and that’s me being optimistic
@@pooder3078Airsoft and paintball are legal in the US. No license required.
The fact that a lot of gun laws are based just off appearance screams that we need reform on our firearm laws
My 12 yr old Son wants an Air rifle for Xmas just like I got 1 on my 10th birthday but government has made it to complicated and restrictive for what we as a land owning beef producing family for 3 generations considered a Toy. Sporting Shooters Association has stopped this Sport and great Australian past time from Dying off all together. 100% Respect
if you mean you need a gun license for a airifle that has been the case for many years now try to get a license though its good fun shooting
3d print him an FGC-9 as vengeance.
The 2015 Australian Government's "Parliamentary Inquiry into Firearms Violence", concluded that "less than 1% of Gun Crimes in Australia are committed with Registered or Previously Registered Firearms".
Sadly the left are allergic to facts
Doesn't even surprise me that this is the case, people will always be ignorant to these types of statistics.
Quiet down mate, no one wants your facts and reason. How dare you go against the preferred narrative. Shame on you. All guns are bad. And if guns are banned the gangs and crims will be unable to get them.
Yes thank you! News flash idiots, *criminals do not follow the law*
FaithInChrist1611 exactly 😂 why people do not understand this I’ll never get, it’s not like murder and robbery are legal
2:20
nioa ceo: "i suspect that you've got a different agenda and you want to say strange things"
reporter: "well you find out until i ask you the questions so"
REPORTER OWNED BIAS EXPOSED
Huh? He said "You won't find out until I ask" meaning, you won't know IF
not really, and if he didn't have a different agenda (like he obviously does, the whole documentary is themed that way) then he wouldn't have said that.
The reporter is from the ABC, no doubt he has a leftist bias against gun.
Perhaps the statics of gun related crime perpetuated by legal gun owners in Australia would have provided important facts in the matter.
@@martybardetta1338 Yea and Nay.
The issue is always how lack of regulations allows the legal owners to have their weapons transferred over to the black market.
I disagree with much of the statements in this documentary, especially on airsoft, and shooting in general, but statistics-wise, much of the crimes committed in countries with strict regulations use very rusty weaponry. From parts of the middle east, south and southeast Asia, as well as eastern Europe. In Sri Lanka for example, due to the conflict that lasted close to 3 decades, there has been very strong gun regulations.
Most gun-related crimes take place using old rusty revolvers(Webley and nagants), and in extreme cases, rusty Type 56 Assault riffles with an undersling buttstock with a corroded muzzle. I know this cos my uncle worked at the drug and narcotics enforcement with overlooking duties in homicide. Goes to show the level of effectiveness of anti-firearms regulations.
This was the exact topic for my General Assembly conference in 2017. The effect of gun regulations.
It's this small look of the overall picture that debunks most of the claims of avid gun rights supporters.
He just documented on video that the director was afraid to talk to someone.
Stop blocking commenting on your videos ABC.
Steve Google dont type rubbish then.
@@nordic5490 Its about free speech, and the ability to make comments! Not suppressing them and letting the public show what they really think on topics is very important! Don't be ignorant and type that rubbish then.
@@Tecqgamming It's got nothing to do with free speech, lol.
how are they blocked if your comment is right here?
@@Tecqgamming they turn off comments because they are snowflakes (scared that people might have a different opinion)
Funny thing is, in my experience. The average gun owners in Australia do way more for their communities and country than any member of the media.
Same here in the states. I live in California. It’s nice but a lot of people are crazy paranoid about firearms unfortunately. It’s weird because I live near the US pacific fleet. The same stuff they say about private firearm ownership could happen with all sorts of military weapons systems if someone crazy loses it if they decide to go on a rampage. L
I used to know some guys that would do open carry to help people see that firearms weren’t bad and neither were most firearms owners. They would do open carry charity work. Police got called on these nice guys with big smiles helping people out that they stopped responding to things they new were them.
Eventually the state of California got angry and banned pistols from being opened carried unloaded and without a magazine attached because they didn’t like it. Sadly we are headed toward the way of Aussie gun laws for now,”.
Sooner or later though they will have this stuff struck down on 2nd amendment grounds nationally but it takes a very long time. Good luck you guys. Australia is a very nice place like California. If I didn’t live here I would probably rather live down under than anywhere in the states.
To be clear, I comply with the laws and don’t encourage any breaking them even though I disagree and think they are crazy. They only way to fix this is responsible friendly gun ownership and the Democratic process.
Good luck to you guy. These anti-gun nuts aren’t generally very rational people when it comes to this issue. There are a minority of people who think rationally about it and understand why we disagree with each other but most of them are more interested in punishing people they disagree with than “safety” even.
“In my experience” “average” “any of the media” Well I don’t think I’ve ever read a more biased unfounded cohesion of words in my life. Speaking of reading I suggest you start reading yourself
@@TheGrindcorps Their paranoia would have nothing to do with wanting to maintain or reduce a death rate of 8.5 per 100,000 as opposed to states with liberal gun laws like Mississippi at 28.6 per 100,000. Lobbyists and media on both sides lie, data doesn’t mate.
I’ll stick with my country not having gun massacres thank you 😊
@@ianjenkins8114 He is not wrong, though.
Give us our guns back!
They will never give them back to us. We need to take it back. Lets start by not supporting the corrupt major parties. Im pro independant.
@@beklerken1 oof , burning the nation down , that some evilish plan
I like it
Take them back!
Should have never gave them up and now y’all can’t leave and come to the US without a vaccine
Take them back.
i think individuals should be held accountable for their own actions
^
So sick of the collectivist mindset where groups of people are blamed for the actions of one individual.
That's is the far left idea, collectivism to the extreme.
@Soul Equaliser yes I do agree with that also
Not much good to me if i cope a gunshot wound from out of nowhere,...
@@ryburn83
I could, but why would someone ruin a fine car to do harm to me,..it's easier with a gun,.....
How many deaths from Gel blasters again ???
My God, this is dripping with poor logic and distaste for civil rights.
Haha those dislikes tho. MSM, Your throne is looking more fragile everyday.
Spoods 'The Milkman' Milkano 500
Just because they are non-profit does not mean they necessarily don't have editorial biases.
Blows my mind that the MSM would sacrifice their ratings for the sake of a political agenda.
Dont want to end up like that garbage pile known as USA. Bogans beware your joy for shooting wildlife will be ending , what a bunch of losers you pro gun idiots are
@@spoods4628 Clearly didn't say that mate
Injustice and curruption dominates once the pollies fear nothing!
corruption*
@@Incurafy It could be a keyboard error.
Is that why children are being shot enmasse, to scare the pollies. Doesn’t seem to work, Especially in America.
Easy to get a gun License?? Really ?? I am in the middle of the process now an it is slated to take 4-8 months. Criminal checks, identity checks, safe storage, safety courses, mandatory waiting periods on purchases. And this is not for a Semi Auto, just a bog standard bolt action to shoot targets at the range, and bunnies on the farm Pity they don't explain how "EASY" it is to get a license.
Thanks for the demonization ABC, thanks a lot.
i've been in processing for over a year
Good.
If this movement can ensure we Australians are self sufficient, I'm all for it.
Comments and dislikes will be gone very soon!
Wayne White aye
That's common with political correctness
I’m in shock that they’re Open for a change!!
clearly trying to scare viewers
It's what they do. Keep people scared so they can make laws to feel safe which really just restrict your freedoms.
Semi-automatic rapid fire? I honestly wish the people on the other side actually did some research into what gun classifications and meanings are before suddenly thinking they know better.
Similar to the fatal airsoft guns no doubt
@benicecunt o.k. People who want to make actual change and educate people about guns and gun laws like these people know so little about the actual topic and these people want to write legislation? But I guess uninformed senators are just our bread and butter.
Jerry Miculek enters the chat...
@@mattjohns3394 don't be like that, we both know that Miculek is a registered NFA item.
:D
I totally agree it’s almost impossible to get a fully automatic rifle in America people don’t have a clue about firearms
This really is a load of hyped up nonesence.
Very sad to view this crap on the ABC.
It's about time someone with some real money came to help us get our rights back. I don't care if their motivation is profit, good on 'em, they should be able to make some money selling me weapons for self-defence. Why not? It's a good cause, count me in.
@Hal Landy How fortunate for you then that you've never been exposed to the real world. You must be very privileged. Meanwhile, I have been mugged twice, once by two guys in the middle of peak hour traffic in Mitchelton, and once by a guy on a train near Strathpine who put a knife to my throat, and the police weren't there to stop it, in either case. In both cases, there were a whole bunch of people just standing around and watching, and not a few of them were literally looking the other way. Dozens of cars drove past the busy main road intersection where I was mugged in Mitchelton. One bus driver called the police. That was it. There were no other calls. No one did shit.
You are a population sample of one. Just because you haven't 'seen any need for a gun' in your lifetime, no matter how long, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It just means you've never been directly exposed to it, which puts you in that happy 'hear no evil/see no evil/speak no evil/ignorance is bliss' place where you don't have to worry about what happens to people like me.
And frankly, ignorance does not make for good arguments, so go away, get something real, and come back and try again. Because "I've never seen it" doesn't convince me that a gun wouldn't have helped in both my situations.
@Ethan Andrews try reading. The answer's in there, if you have a couple of brain cells to rub together you can figure it out for yourself.
@Ethan Andrews you must be one of those people that believe all you need to do to turn a bad guy away is to fire two shots in the air from your shotgun on the balcony, get real damn it
@@StevenL00 why shoot at the air? Im gonna shoot the muggers. wtf
@@pooder3078 the guy I replied to deleted his comment, I was being sarcastic
When you have stupid laws then firearms owners are going to support these groups to have them wound back.
Restricting supressors, is one of those stupid laws. All supressors do is protect the hearing of shooters and keeps the neighbours happy by reducing noise.
Categorising the Adler lever action shotgun as anything other then category A is also a stupid law.
Its all just philosophy
Pretty much all laws regarding suppressors are based on movies, where they're quiet as a masquitos fart.
Correct they are a OHS requirement and should be free
If this is unbiased reporting then I am a goat! No wonder why that guy didnt want to talk to you in the beginning of this video, he knew how you operate as a reporter.
Yeah so biased! I mean they offered people on all sides the ability to present their side of the argument and they were taken up on that offer and actually presented the arguments they put forward! What kind of disgustingly biased behavior is that!
@@StreakyBaconMan You are obviously too blind to see it
Shooting is not just Killing it’s a sport that I take part of with friends and I enjoy it have a Great day
And no one is stopping you from doing it as a sport. Regulations do not mean a total ban. No one wants to be like yankville
@@tim1601 I have a Friend that’s a veteran that serviced Australian just to be told no you can’t have a gun because you have been to a battlefield and might have ptsd. This government wants to make it hard just to get a little 22LR in the backyard with friends,
@@fuckcommunist1340 Yeah because PTSD is not even a thing, right!? RIP Chris Kyle.
@@only_trades What are you saying he is going to go Shoot up a school or something?
@@only_trades I mean most veterans I know have guns and they don’t shot themselves
Honestly, I used to be heavily against guns and very supportive of Australia's strict laws. Until I realised how easy it is to get a hold of most of guns on black market. You would not believe the amount of guns that are on the streets in some suburbs of Melbourne. When you do a little more research into gun control, you will see a very different agenda taking place.
Chris Chaos was that about the time you realised that gun laws only work if criminals abide by them, and that sporting shooters aren’t and never have been the problem?
@@osheppyo8287 people are so dumbed down. I should have a right to purchase legal guns that are kept in my house.
Give me $50 and a lift to Bunnings and I can make you a shotgun (posted as satire not a real invitation Mr. Asio).
But yes it is actually possible and most people would be capable of making it at home.
All you need is cash and know the right person. You can buy mostly anything from semi auto pistol's to assault rifles.
@@alberttresslevic914 yeah but they don't
Man... anything but admit that firearms owners are a large voting group that has democratic rights and should be listened to.
Huh? What do you think we're living in here in this country? A democracy or something?
Australian Biased Corporation. Rule number 1, never talk to the ABC.
Only 1.2 million?? Big pharma and McDonald's invests that money into advertising for making people fatter every couple of days. 🙄
Let's ban butter knives too while we're at it.
Oi you gotta Loicense for that butter knife Mate?
Yes, because butter knives are made to kill, not butter bread, as the left would have you believe. Personally, my Beretta 92FS with the ambidextrous safety is the best way to butter bread. It even spreads condiments. POW!
@The Beast are you talking about the daily life in england? Haha
@The Beast idiot.
"It will take a massacre in Tasmania, before we get gun reform in Australia"
- Barry Unsworth (1987)
Who is this man, you have interested me very much.
Former NSW Premier
He said that because Tasmania was known for having the most lax gun laws in all of Australia.
@@joelhungerford8388 Might have also helped to deflect attention from the fact that he was also the leader of one of the most rotten state governments in the country. After all he was a fill in for ol' Wran when he had to go.
Wasn’t too interested in guns, until I saw this report. Decided to give it a go and it’s been absolutely fantastic ! Shooting has been such as wonderful pastime ! Always look so forward to getting to the range and the challenge of shooting at longer distances, but the best thing about the shooting sports is the all the wonderful people I have met along the way. I’d recommend to anyone to give it a go ! 👍
Good, as a soldier and someone who is trained i would love to shoot in my spare time
You realise all the weapons you want aren't "illegal" per say, you just need a very specific licenses and for the firearms to be kept at the shooting club in a double locked safe. You shoot them at a range all you like. A few questions, where are you a soldier, when did you join, what's your company, division and platoon, what service and what job?
@@baileymcmanus1816 i may be a dig but im not dumb enough to say my posting lol
Shit is out of hand in Australia.
I got pulled over in a shopping centre car park after work and got charged with possession of a house/car break in tool for having a little Phillips head screwdriver in my pocket !
Sadly you have what they call an implement for theft . Lucky that you were not charged with an implement to cause injury or death , the implementation law has been around well before the 1970s, unfortunately you should have been warned before you were charged, if you went to court over it and explained it was an over site from work you had carried out or said you would put it into the boot into a tool compartment you would not had any infringement given ...
@@dave5litre462
Yeah I was charged with possession of a break and enter implement.
Got thrown out when I went to court though.
My dad also got charged with a weapons charge for having a crowbar even though it was in the toolbox of his Ute.
going prepared, bit bloody harsh though
@MrSpindles
Would you like my court brief?
@MrSpindles mate these things happen all the time. I got charged with trespass with a weapon for having a rifle locked up in the car while having a shit in the bush. the fine was 500dollars roughly but they knew I'd have to travel 12 hours to fight it in court and loose 2 days work so even though I did everything legally I still got screwed. the perversion of justice in Australia is sickening.
My great uncle a WW1 veteran said there is no better soldier next to you than a soldier from down under. Get your gun rights back don’t ever let a crooked politician take them again!
Why are politicians and banks allowed to be protected by guns but not law abiding citizens? Why is the government allowed to have guns but not citizens? Someone please answer that.
Why cant power be shared to make people fell like they matter again not just big business
@Fletcher Gabbe .
You sound like an American.
@@montsouthern Brisbane but having been to the us the nanny state is in full swing here it's more of a dictatorship than a democracy can't even cycle a bike without a helmet and get fined for 2km over speed limit u sound like an Ozzie who's never been overseas ??..
@@ste4742 Quite the contrary I've been all around the world and have seen just how more advanced our country is compared to places like the US. The US is paralysed with paranoia and the pursuit of individualism so much so they are falling behind a lot of the western nations. While i agree in parts about us having too much regulation, i view that better than having too little.
I want a gun for self defence bro. If a criminal can have a gun can I have one too?. bush master acr 308 please....??
We shouldn't have to ask. The common law has in many cases in history required the ownership of arms for the defense of the nation. I'm talking about medieval Britain. That then evolved into fire arms for self defense when pistols and muskets became more common. I don't know how the people changed their minds on the right to bear arms.
I do too but it ain't happening the world is getting worse and us owners are targets not the targets we use for sports shooting at our local range
What would be the point? You're not aloud to use lethal force as "defence" at any rate
We can’t obtain a firearms licence for self-defence in Australia only for sports purposes.
Cobbsta you can in america
Major parties had it too good for too long and done nothing to improve the life of people of Australia. Im pro independants. Good on SIFA for supporting Bob Katter. Cheers from Victoria.
The Battle of Athens Tn, Aug. 1 & 2 1946, An American Story. A 1992 Hallmark movie is on you tube on how a stolen election caused a 6 hour gun battle at a police station of 2-300 & many were veterans of WW 2 against 2-3 dozen cops & then the use of dynamite to blow open the doors brought justice in 1946 America. The mayor stole the 1940, 42 & 44 elections. A true use of America's 2nd-Amendment in American history. 3 books also have been written on this since the eighties.
I didn’t know about sifa but I be showing my support now.
Honestly I’d welcome a change. Between the foxes, pigs, feral dogs and cats, our native wildlife are under siege. We can’t save them with obsolete weaponry and some bait
I’m not sure where you shop but shooting feral animals is not enough. In Texas, they have a very bad feral pig problem and shooters are encouraged to shoot as many as they can with the most lethal weaponry and it barely scratches the surface. Ferals should be exterminated but guns are not enough.
@@greatsage4132 oh sure. There is no single method that will solve the issue of invasive species, claiming guns alone would solve the issue would be just as daft as claiming nonlethal traps alone would solve it. But surely it would help if we could hunt pests in state and national parks, hell here in Victoria we can hunt deer in a few national parks, but not declared pest species.
I need a gun. Stupid rabit, birds, kangaroo eatting all my crops
Who will save us from the Emus?
You can get a gun. Just a pain in the ass and at most you’ll get a bolt action and if a miracle a semi automatic
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@@croweater6814 How do you like to express your racial hatred and religious intolerance anonymously online?
@@croweater6814 Hope you are ever this decent forever.
That's a lie you had comments switched on I commented then you turned them off you obviously got huge backlash and are starting to realise censorship and lies are the reason your boomer media companies are going bust
@@slipperygypsy1366 ABC is a govt owned media not privately owned. Supposed to be impartial but they clearly aren't. The CEO and head journalist were fired/resigned over a political interference by turnbull gov't.
They did have some good reports and investigations years ago but now if they upset the sitting gov't their budget gets slashed. Our gov't can't upset allies either so true reporting about 9-11 or 7-7. Venezuela etc isn't possible. So they wont investigate anything politically motivated.
As far as Media the only way is to listen to both sides of stories and make own guess on what is true.
They will never really report about the USA bombing Somalia or why 70% of the world now doesnt support USA in 80% of its decisions.
Every media is now being caught out many many times a year about false reporting. It is so sad to always be fed false news so USA dont put trade sanctions on your country and cause it to go broke.
Learn from Milo and Avi Yemeni - record every interview with anyone
Yer...That Avi Yemeni really though a spanner in the works .lol.
Some of the most redundant news telling I’ve ever seen
*use of tax dollars
Dead Right About the fucking truth of it HAHAHA
Bob Katter is a legend.
Always speaks his mind.
Only come election time...otherwise he's about as equivalent and useful as Biden.
Omg what a racist guy he really is pulling that dog whistle line about the threat within & ‘we are only a small country’, come on sounds like the yellow peril & the reds are just above us line that the Liberals gave to frighten the masses back in the day. I think Aussies are woken up to that old fashion scare tactic by now.
"How many people have to die"
We've got a handful of deaths in 10 years which is horrible but you probably have had more people die posing rugby.
Sweet,looks like gun controls working
@@victorcampano8746
Apart from port Arthur there were not many deaths before the NFA was brought in.
Noonkanbah that but only 1/3 of restricted firearms were surrendered. So that means 2/3 have still been floating around yet haven't been used in a similar attack.
Gun crime was already trending down before the NFA.
Having some restrictions has likely helped but some of the restrictions are just stupid.
Australia has been a stable, wealthy nation without too much inequality. That is the main reason why violent crime has reduced including gun crime.
@@victorcampano8746 get ready for the annihilation you are about to receive....
- The only large scale mass shooting to occur in Australia, was at Port Arthur with 35 dead and 24 injured.
- Prior to the 1996 gun amnesty; mass shootings in Australia were not only rare, but were also small scale in size.
1911 Ching Family Shooting = 6 dead
1915 Battle of Broken Hill = 4 dead 7 wounded
1924 Botanic Gardens Shooting = 4 dead
1957 Narella Street Shooting = 6 dead 1 wounded
1971 Hope Forest Shooting = 10 dead
1981 Campsie Shooting = 5 dead
1984 Wahroonga Shooting = 5 dead
1987 Pymble Shooting = 4 dead
1987 Hoddle Street Shooting = 7 dead 19 wounded
1987 Huynh Family Shooting = 5 dead
1987 Queen Street Shooting = 8 dead 5 wounded
1988 Oenpelli Shooting = 5 dead
1990 Surry Hills Shooting = 5 dead 7 wounded
1991 Strathfield Shooting = 7 dead 6 wounded
1992 Central Coast Shooting = 6 dead 1 wounded
1996 Hillcrest Shooting = 6 dead
- After the 1996 gun amnesty; small scale mass shootings continued to occur.
2002 Monash University Shooting = 2 dead 5 wounded
2005 Oakhampton Heights Shooting = 4 dead
2011 Hectorville Siege = 3 dead 3 wounded
2014 Hunt Family Shooting = 5 dead
2018 Osmington Shooting = 7 dead
2019 Darwin Shooting = 4 dead 1 wounded
- Guns are not needed for mass killings in Australia.
1942 Boulder And Kalgoorlie Bombings = 14 dead 15 wounded
1973 Whiskey Au Go Go Fire = 15 dead
1978 Sydney Hilton Hotel Bombing = 3 dead 11 wounded
1983 Inland Motel Vehicular Murder = 5 dead 16 Injured
1993 Greenough Axe Murder = 4 dead
1994 Wollongong Knife Murder = 4 dead
1997 Shoobridge Family Murder = 5 dead
2000 Childers Palace Hostel Fire = 15 dead
2003 Poulson Family Murder = 4 dead
2009 Churchill Fire = 10 dead
2009 Lin Family Blunt Instrument Murder = 5 dead
2011 Quakers Hill Fire = 11 dead
2014 Cairns Child Stabbings = 8 dead
2016 Northern Sydney Gassing = 4 dead
2017 Melbourne Car Attack = 6 dead 27 wounded
2018 Bedford Massacre = 5 dead
2020 Camp Hill Carjacking = 5 dead
- The number of Intentional firearm murders (excluding suicides and police shootings) was already extremely low, before the 1996 gun amnesty. The most gun murders that were ever recorded was in 1988 (123 deaths) and 1996 (104 deaths) and after 1996, from 2010 - 2020; the average number of Intentional gun murders, is 30 deaths.
1988 (123) 1989 (80) 1990 (79) 1991 (84) 1992 (96) 1993 (64) 1994 (76) 1995 (67) 1996 (104) 1997 (79) 1998 (57) 1999 (50)
- The total number of gun suicides in 1996 were 382. As of 2019, it is 180.
- The total number of unintentional gun deaths in 1996 were 30. As of 2019, it is 4.
- Australia's overall homicide rate in 1990 was 2.21 per 100,000, 5x less than that of the US, which was 9.30 per 100,000. Overall homicide was declining at the same rate, before and after the amnesty.
1990 = 2.21 per 100k
1991 = 1.98 per 100k
1992 = 1.73 per 100k
1993 = 1.89 per 100k
1994 = 1.80 per 100k
1995 = 1.98 per 100k
1996 = 1.95 per 100k
- The overall percentage of homicides committed with firearms in 1996, was 22%. The percentage in 2019 was 16%
Requiring drivers to wear a helmet would cut auto fatalities in half or more. Australians have to fight the govt on BS firearm legislation and and kind of covid restrictions. The world is laughing at and empathetic for Aussies.
I want to become an Australian gun manufacturer and have the chance to compete with these companies so thanks CZcams for introducing me to the beginning of all these companies
I am surprised the comments have not been turned off yet....
Should focus on the illegal drug trade in this country before looking at legal firearm owners.
I think guns are a human right. If you trust someone to have a car you should trust them to have a gun.
Clearly no agenda here, just honest reporting
it just shows how silly the gun laws are when something like a nerf gun can be considered the same type & class as a real firearm. it is beyond clear that the gun laws nation wide have nothing more in mind than complete disarmament of lawful shooters.
Remember this. All Australian nerf guns have grey triggers not orange ones. This is a remnant from when people were concerned that the new Elite Nerf guns could shoot a further distance. So unique changes were made to weaken Australia's Nerf guns. It's rather odd and that behaviour can be seen in other areas like paintball and airsoft.
Yes! Finally I should be able to defend myself! I hope this guys manage to change the law so I can be safe!
If not move the US, don’t move to California or New York, matter of fact don’t move to any blue state (democratic) they’re the reason Cali and New York are in the condition they’re in now Red States are pro-gun and has a cheaper way of living
It is vastly unfair, corrupt and downright criminal that personal protection is not considered a genuine reason to own a firearm.
You are hurting my brain and you have a absolute shitty argument, why do you need firearms in the first place? Every country that has severely restricted firearm accessibility (and has the capability to enforce said restrictions) has insanely low fire arm deaths and or mass shootings. No legal firearms = no criminals with firearms. No legal fire arms = no school shootings. In 2020 Germany there where 4.370 cases in which a gun was unlawfully shot, in the same year in the US you had 19.512 people who where killed with fire arms and 39.532 people who where injured with firearms. The numbers don’t lie and all arguments coming form the pro gun lobby are either half thrusts, ideological or almost religious and they have 0 facts and or numbers backing them up.
@@15sixmedia and yet people can get a firearm to defend money just not yourself. Shows you want the government really care about
Laws laws laws and just how do you propose that more laws will stop lawbreakers from breaking the law? All it does is oppress the average civilian and create more problems than it solves
Hal Landy the excessive laws that pop up to cover one specific event that occurred because common sense doesn’t seem to be valid anymore...
"Do you get that he wants to sell more firearms for money" My guy its something called a business.
So is selling meth
I find it funny the narrator says body armor for the modern warrior than shows what looks like shiny hockey gear
if guns become legal imma just yeet myself outta here
god damn corporate companies, the only guns allowed here are nerf guns
Guns aren't legal?
I reckon we should have more firearm freedom, I also just want Airsoft to be legalised.
Agree! Hard enough at it is even with props for us cosplayers without getting eyed by authorities.
Getting a firearms license is not easy, it’s quite difficult and takes a long time. First you need to do a course. Then you apply for a license, which takes a god few months to happen. Then you have storage requirements to comply with. Then you have to apply to buy a firearm. Then you need to make sure you use approach ranges. Then you need to find someone with land that will let you hunt or help with feral animal control (forget using any public lands in some states). Then you need to apply for a new class of license with landholder consent documentation to shoot rural lands. Then you need to apply for each new firearm you may need to do rural shooting. This is all just for bolt action, break action or single shot firearms.
I get it - don’t want lunatics shooting people. Completely agree.
What I find to be too restrictive is the ownership and use of one or two basic firearms to go and turn a feral animal into some meat, or to help consenting landholders reduce feral animal numbers.
Join a local pistol club. They need more people.
“And I suspect you are going to ask me strange things” @2:30 xD too true mate. Don’t trust them.
Damon Sara “would you have a chat with us today”
“Not really, no”
What a fuckin legend
That dudes a leech, trying to get him to talk after he already said no
@@sandarelliott5319 that't the point of journalists dude
haven’t seen any journalistic capabilities at abc my whole short life
*every police officer also needs to have a mental health check done*
Honestly why should we be punished for Bryant's massacre, pathetic
It was really affronting being repeatedly told that "I" am not a part of the "community"
God I hope these gun companies never back down, and tackle the dictatorship that is the Australian government.
"tackle the dictatorship that is the Australian government."
Bwahaha!
Wish the Ray Martin interview with Martin bryants nurse was still available of course CZcams deleted it ...but has history repeats its self everyone believes what they hear on TV
John Howard is a criminal
Good on Mioa for not giving the abc the time of day, a very smart man he is.
Funny when he says a big 'ask' of law abiding citizens, no ask it was no choice
It's about time the law abiding citizens have there guns back.
As a victim of a home invasion in Perth years ago, yes it is!
Easy to acquire a firearm license in Australia!! 😆😆😆😆😆
So you've done it then?
For years and years, you'd see SCHOOL aged kids carrying a rifle on the train. On their way to school.
Then one day, it all changed...
A place called Port Arthur started what you're seeing.
Its all a BIG game...
@TrollZilla Fishn For Likes 100% correct. I met a lady named Wendy Scurr. Google her name & what she did/saw. She said to me many years ago "Martin didn't do this. I don't know who, but, I know it wasn't Martin. I was there. I saw a young girls brains in a plate. The head shot had basically scalped her..her brains fell into the plate."
The Battle of Athens TN, Aug. 1 & 2 1946, An American Story. A 1992 Hallmark movie on you tube on how a stolen election, caused a 6 hour gun battle at a police station & then the use of dynamite to blow open the doors brought justice in 1946 America. 2-300 & many were veterans of WW 2 against 2-3 dozen cops & then the use of dynamite to blow open the doors brought justice in 1946 America. The mayor stole the 1940, 42 & 44 elections. A use of America's 2nd-Amendment in America's history. 3 books also have been written on this since the eighties!!!!!!
But Port Arthur was a mass slaughter and it can happen more if mental people can easily get hold of weapons. NO.
Also, why do you bring up the guy with the illegal pistol? Firearms owners are among the most trusted and law-abiding citizens.
This is good. I'm a hippy at heart but I want easier access to a gun for survival its way to difficult to even get a hunting rifle. If some one want to commit murder they can to the same job with a kitchen knife and we don't need a license for one of those. They are both just tools. Like a hammer can build a hous or kill. But a 5 year old can buy one.
1.2 million in funding omg
How much of our tax dollars go to the ABC to produce this dribble.
What’s ABC annual budget??
From 2007-08 'base funding' of $543 million.
Defund the ABC!.
Couldn't CARELESS
Bro you have a Kekistan profile pic in 2019, regardless of what the ABC said I want them to do the opposite of whatever you say.
The criminals still some how manage to get all types of guns and have shoot outs as we continually hear on the news, especially in Sydney and Melbourne with the underbelly shootings.
Criminals will ALWAYS be able to get firearms why not us??
Riddle me this: John Howard said along the lines of " nobody in Australia should own a automatic firearm, then why does every police force own one? Absolute propaganda 4 corners
I cant believe they’re still rolling out Phillip Alpers and using him as a “credible source” he was marginalised years ago. He is the least biased “scientist” in the southern hemisphere
A tax felon too. He can't even posses a firearm on ANY Category of License in Australia.
He was one of a trio of goons: the other two being Roland Browne and Simon Chapman.
I detest the comments on Facebook, those were gross but cheery picked. So 3 in over 3000 comments were threats? Statistically, that's not that bad for the internet.
this dude ^ is the problem... with gun ownership, there's always gonna be a small percent of idiots who are gonna be idiots
@@beenmicrophone5817 criminals don't follow the law
@@08yannch no they don't, so why should we make there lives any easier?
@@beenmicrophone5817 wait so are you saying that if we make firearms more accessible to sporting shooters the criminals will follow the law to get the guns just to then not follow the law?
why not just buy them on the black market
@@08yannch the barrier of entry..
the price on the black market would not be affordable to most, and is higher risk for those supplying. so there is deterrent on both sides..
reduced regulation and increased supply means that more weapons will inevitably end up on the black market for even cheaper.
I have recently gotten into the hobby of firearms but unfortunately am not really interested in the limited range available in Australia under it's current gun laws. So personally I'm glad to hear this news. Even though it's pistols that I'd really like to take to take to a gun range instead of just reading about them in magazines.
Pistol licences are easy if you're serious about it.
hate seeing new pistols and pricing on em on the ssaa magazines
If you're reading magazines from, what I assume to be, the USA I'll have to issue another spoiler and tell you that since 2003 a good chunk of the handguns (pistols) that you see in them are prohibited from being owned as well here in Australia. Nothing over .38 calibre and with a barrel length of less than 120mm is allowed.
@@notmkr-busta2937 As far as my regard for that organization is concerned the only thing their magazine is good for is wiping my arse.
If you want to own a gun, then own a gun. If you dont, then dont. Such a nanny state we live under.
Join the US, come get you an AR-15
As a US citizen and firearms owner, it’s interesting to see how and why firearms laws in other countries are so restrictive. But, this is the one thing I never hear from leftist politicians in Australia and for that matter the US. “WHY” they oppose firearms so vehemently. It seems that not a single politician can ever articulate their opposition of firearms ownership, especially in relation to self defense with any kind of facts. It’s always an emotional response, steeped in complete misinformation.
For example, statistic after statistic here in the US, where it’s almost a requirement to own a firearm, shows that in areas where firearms and concealed carry laws are encouraged, violent crime is dramatically lower compared to areas or states with extremely restrictive gun laws. You can’t run away from or change that fact. It’s also not just an occasional statistic , it’s consistent across the board.
For Australians and. I know that you understand this, but this is an example of politicians thinking they know better that their stupid and uneducated constituents. “Government knows better because, well we’re in government and we’re waaaay smarter than the common person.” These elitist minds, (I think some have good, but extremely misplaced intentions) simply think they know better and probably think “If everyone could just be like me, then everything would be unicorns, gumdrops and rainbows.”
Sorry for the cliche here, but if someone wants to rob you, lack of access to firearms won’t stop them. Same if they want to murder, rape or threaten. All the government is doing by disarming it’s citizens is literally throwing them to the wolves, the predators.
And don’t give me the excuse “That’s what the police are for.” The police aren’t on standby in your neighborhood while you’re being robbed, raped or your family murdered. Police usually show up after the crime has been committed. This is why most police officers here in the US, who are parents, husbands and wives themselves, encourage firearm ownership and want people to have the ability to defend themselves. There’s no better day for a police officer in the US to show up to the scene of where a violent crime was being committed, only to find out that an armed citizen was able to defend themselves, their family or people in their community.
If politicians in Australia or even the US could magically eliminate all firearms overnight, then guaranteed, they’d just move onto the elimination of the next dangerous item our stupid and uneducated populations could harm themselves with. Next it would be any kind of sharp object, then cars, then blunt instruments and so on.
It gets annoying when they cover the murders night after night and in nearly every case it ends with the reporter saying and the suspect has a long history of violent crime. They won't even keep the predators in prison for the safety of the rest of us, but they will call for more gun controls. California is particularly bad for this. Gavin Newsom is even worse than Jerry Brown in that regard. A gangster was paroled in New Jersey and within a month of his release started a gun fight where several where wounded. The New Jersey governor held a press conference not asking for stricter sentencing of violent people but instead calling for more gun controls. New Jersey is already one of the most, if not the most, gun controlled states in the USA.
"Balanced Reporting"
*looks at title*
ffs ABC
I support the right to defend ourselves against criminals, who quite often do have guns...
Go live in America then.
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Nope. Let me choose where to live and how to live, OK? It's supposed to be a democratic society after all (never mind the compulsory voting ect)
Look out, the ABC is offended again!
Good, loosen up our gun laws!!!
Shoosh. We don't need more guns or to get rid of the ones we have. We're fine, it's been fine for ages. Stop trying to fix what's not broken or break what's already been fixed.
Edit: reading back I think a more accurate statement is that we don't need to change what type of firearms are available for each licence category.
"More guns/less guns" was a lazy way of putting it and misses the point.
Crime continued to decline at the same rate, but gun crime went up.
@Alex SEIDLER the number of head injuries went up in WWI due to the steel helmet becoming manditory, but reports of head injuries went up, but lives were saved. Would you rather survive to complain or die?
@Alex SEIDLER your logic us flawed, gun related crimes had gone down, so therefor any change to the ratio of other crimes (aside from gun related crimes) would increase. Get out of here with your fearmongering bs
@Alex SEIDLER you're objectively wrong. Gun violence in Australia fell drastically after the buyback. In 1987, gun deaths per 100,000 people was 4.3, whereas in 2016 that number has shrunk to 1.06. www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compareyears/10/rate_of_all_gun_deaths_per_100_000_people
Your facts are entirely made up.
Alex SEIDLER Also a shooter mate, I do trap, benchrest and hunting so get of your high horse for a sec. Yea the whole "show your sources" comeback is an over used cliche but if you want to come around spouting "proven facts" then it's on you to back it up mate.
I remember September 11 but they haven't banned planes.
SIFA seems like a fair antithesis to the alarmist anti-gun lobby that thinks a bolt-action rifle can be modified into an ak47.
Go Sifa, go sifa. I would love to see Australia adopt American style firearms laws. From Canadian.
I'm an Australian I think we should adopt Czech fire arms laws
Does the abc have armed security?
Not a smart comment
What would they need armed security for? After all we're all mean't to be so safe in Australia because of the 1996 NFA aren't we?
8:42 *looks at Switzerland* literly has a way smaller population and way sensible population, mandatory military service and reservists worked pretty well over there
I just read about this in a book yesterday, and the Swiss managed to stay out of both World Wars. They are a defensive little porcupine with their militia and nobody wants to f with them. Australia could be like that, maybe we could be a little bigger porcupine and nobody would want to f with us either. We don't want guns to fight, we want them to not fight.
I’m happy to own 2 riffles out of 3million guns in Australia 🇦🇺 . I think our gun laws are fine but I do understand both sides of the argument
Lucky man I was refused thanks to having generalised social anxiety lol shows you how retarded our laws our.
I have one but I would love to be able to own a semi-auto.
@@servedwidcringe2747 yet a guy who shot up a petrol station near me was licensed gun holder he had a mental illness
@@servedwidcringe2747 well sorry mate, I know social anxiety ain't that severe on its own, but it goes hand in hand with depression and you don't know what mindset you could end up in one day. It's probably safer for yourself and others that you don't have a gun. That's our gun laws working well. Why do you want a gun anyway out of curiosity?
@@justaperson9155 I wanted to join a club and target shoot just .22s and double barrel shotguns also have family with property I wanted to use for pest control of rabbits, I have re applied and now am on a long waiting list to proove I'm sane and law abiding :) (EDIT) YEAH THAT IS TRUE BUT I DONT HAVE ANY INTENTIONS LOOSING MY FREEDOM OR IF I GOT THEM FIREARMS AND THAT IS A VALID POINT YOU CANNOT PROOVE A HUMAN BEING UNDIAGNOSED WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WILL OR WILL NOT HURT SOMEONE AND SAME APPLIES TO DIAGNOSED PEOPLE, ITS GOOD YOU CAN RE APPLY TO PROOVE YOUR LIGIT AND OK.
As an American living in Australia, I honestly feel safer with a ccw by my side.
That’s because you’re an American