Inside the engineering megaproject that went horribly wrong | Four Corners

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  • čas přidán 22. 10. 2023
  • Australia’s Snowy 2.0 was sold as a nation-building megaproject for a low-carbon future - and was meant to be feeding power into the grid by the end of 2024.
    Instead, the pumped hydro project, which was once estimated to cost $2 billion, is four years behind schedule and now forecast to hit $12 billion.
    In this documentary, Four Corners reveals the inside story of Snowy 2.0 and how it all went so horribly wrong.
    Reporter Angus Grigg challenges its founding champion, former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull, who says as much as $2 billion of the cost blow out can be traced back to a massive tunnel boring machine called Florence.
    Florence is currently stuck.
    Read more about this story here: www.abc.net.au/news/102995568
    This episode was originally broadcast as ‘Tunnel Vision’ on 23 October 2023 on ABC TV and ABC iview.
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Komentáře • 221

  • @iceman4660
    @iceman4660 Před 6 měsíci +679

    Politician becomes engineering guru after reading a articles. What could go wrong?

  • @linoiovenitti7207
    @linoiovenitti7207 Před 5 měsíci +119

    " I was wrong ", now there is a comment that you will never hear a politician say.

  • @Enonymouse_
    @Enonymouse_ Před 6 měsíci +551

    "It may affect the contractors reputation" It damn well should affect them, that work is dangerous but worker safety is a must!

  • @philhogan5623
    @philhogan5623 Před 6 měsíci +571

    I can't think of a single infrastructure project that DIDN'T go way over budget.
    It doesn't help that contractors immediately bump up their prices as soon as they see the words 'government project'.

  • @kirkjohnson6638
    @kirkjohnson6638 Před 6 měsíci +268

    So, it's not a $2 billion mistake, it's a $12 billion mistake and that is if they don't overrun their current projections which is very dubious.

  • @christophero1969
    @christophero1969 Před 5 měsíci +81

    This is comparable to watching children playing in a sandbox and discovering the different properties of wet-sand vs. dry-sand. The public is being taken for a ride, in my opinion.

  • @mickking5913
    @mickking5913 Před 6 měsíci +224

    It seems that florence shouldn't have been used until they were deeper and in the hard rock.The company in charge of the tunnelling should have known this so therefore they should pay all the extra costs not us the taxpayers.

  • @philanderson2220
    @philanderson2220 Před 6 měsíci +122

    I'm learning as i go, he's a funny bastard 🤣

  • @trojanhatchet8204
    @trojanhatchet8204 Před 6 měsíci +99

    They cheaped out on geological studies ?

  • @nedenede
    @nedenede Před 6 měsíci +89

    Mismanagement of public funds in the billions. Why isn't a public inquiry called and pple held accountable? The public needs to know.

  • @prizecowproductions
    @prizecowproductions Před 6 měsíci +155

    Not in my back yard always seems the response to any proposed infrastructure project. But with that said fair compensation should always be on offer.

  • @TheFrogga69
    @TheFrogga69 Před 5 měsíci +107

    People can’t pick a flower in a national park but these guys can trash it.

  • @leskobrandon691
    @leskobrandon691 Před 6 měsíci +271

    This has $100 billion written all over it by the time they get this done. Isn't one of the reasons you release the names of companies with safety violations is to affect their reputation? Unbelievable

  • @dedrakuhn6103
    @dedrakuhn6103 Před 5 měsíci +18

    Skip the video to 22.20 minutes in to begin watching before starting at the beginning of the video. Whoever choose the order of events should have put the quick overview of this project first

  • @actualfacts1055
    @actualfacts1055 Před 5 měsíci +26

    The project should have been cancelled after the geology assessment was done.

  • @marklock1238
    @marklock1238 Před 6 měsíci +116

    Turnbull’s involvement would explain the failure. Just like his NBN fiasco.

  • @user-uk8qt9zl6k
    @user-uk8qt9zl6k Před 6 měsíci +69

    Looks like a few people did alright off it...

  • @scottgordon1781
    @scottgordon1781 Před 6 měsíci +61

    Oh crap , they tunneled ahead and ignored it :-)
    They knew it was soft !

  • @Anamnesia
    @Anamnesia Před 6 měsíci +55

    Hold on... Wait a minute... Is this *_Four Corners_* or is it *_UTOPIA_* ???

  • @-JonnyBoy-
    @-JonnyBoy- Před 6 měsíci +95

    "I'm learning as I go" is not what you want to hear from an "Expert"

    • @seventyfive4899
      @seventyfive4899 Před 6 měsíci +9

      Exactly. I could've done this dude's job for half the salary and still learnt as I went. I coulda saved the government some cash.

    • @makego
      @makego Před 5 měsíci +32

      I'm an engineer. This is the way every bespoke engineering project works. We marshall all the knowledge we have about the various domains involved, but there are always novel circumstances and constraints, and constant learning is required.

  • @paulchasteauneuf2098
    @paulchasteauneuf2098 Před 6 měsíci +129

    As my dad used to say, poor planning produces piss poor performance. Thanks Turdball

    • @AlexBint
      @AlexBint Před 6 měsíci +12

      Prior planning prevents piss poor performance

    • @jonramsey6348
      @jonramsey6348 Před 6 měsíci +9

      I remember this old electrician used to tell me “ Proper preparation prevents piss poor performance “

    • @rwo5402
      @rwo5402 Před 6 měsíci +7

      12 Billion is small change compared to the nuclear subs or what is spent on public transport in Sydney and Victoria. Although it is annoying, in the long term it is a worthwhile investment. As far as bad decisions go let's not forget the 5 billion Scomo paid to France to get out of the sub contract and we didn't get anything for that.,

  • @lours6993
    @lours6993 Před 6 měsíci +37

    How painful to have to hear Scomo's fake blokey accent again.

  • @annaclarke7643
    @annaclarke7643 Před 6 měsíci +167

    There’s small mistakes and then there’s HUGE mistakes that we all pay for. Promising outcomes seems to be the Australian infliction.

  • @captainpoppleton
    @captainpoppleton Před 6 měsíci +39

    We recently all learnt about ocean depth pressure. Next subject is slurry.

  • @ybet1000
    @ybet1000 Před 6 měsíci +67

    6 times the budget.. someone is taking the piss

  • @travishaines7410
    @travishaines7410 Před 6 měsíci +44

    Thanks for my retirement job 😂, I'll be here till the end😂😂

  • @TheGronk
    @TheGronk Před 6 měsíci +112

    If it started with a politician it was doomed from the start. If it started with a politician like Malcom Turnbull, we were all doomed from the start

  • @RedpointFive
    @RedpointFive Před 5 měsíci +50

    Curious as to why the tunnels must be under ground rather than on top of the ground?
    2nd question is Snowy 1.0 still making power while this project is underway?
    Looks like they could have had a nuclear power plant for about the same amount of money, and that actually makes power instead of simply being a battery.

  • @oscarpadron6514
    @oscarpadron6514 Před 6 měsíci +27

    Follow the money; it is always about the money.

  • @bobbyjohn2768
    @bobbyjohn2768 Před 6 měsíci +33

    Anyone old enough or paying enough attention should see the pattern here. :)

  • @peterjones9732
    @peterjones9732 Před 6 měsíci +193

    Love the comment about battery development and storage having less environmental impact, maybe on his land but not the environment or the poor people who mine the resources to make them.

    • @harrygroundwater2590
      @harrygroundwater2590 Před 5 měsíci +11

      We need hydro and batteries

    • @ecleveland1
      @ecleveland1 Před 5 měsíci +21

      There’s never a free lunch. Somewhere someone else has to pay for it.

  • @DoubtingThomas333
    @DoubtingThomas333 Před 6 měsíci +241

    Don't people realise this is how construction companies work? It doesnt matter what kind and who they are... this is par the course for big construction gigs.

  • @skin2117
    @skin2117 Před 6 měsíci +120

    Going 6 times over budget seems to be acceptable but running power lines under ground ruled out as to expensive is just double talk. You're already 6 times over budget. Run the lines under ground and all are happy

  • @Kurt_Philanderer
    @Kurt_Philanderer Před 6 měsíci +72

    It would have been humiliating for Malcolm Turnbull and the Liberal Party if the project had been found to be unfeasible. Political pressure drove Florence into the mud, and she's taking our money and worker safety down with it.

  • @davidlock3695
    @davidlock3695 Před 6 měsíci +60

    Surprise surprise the ABC didn’t interview the current Labor government and ask them why they haven’t cancelled this renewable energy disaster before we waste more billions!

  • @matthewsheeran
    @matthewsheeran Před 6 měsíci +57

    Love the double entendre: "Tunnel Vision". I'll say! ABC journalism at its best and keeping the public abreast.

  • @matthoskin3572
    @matthoskin3572 Před 6 měsíci +91

    Turnbull was only concerned about ensuring his stock portfolio kept getting healthier........what a shill. Nice one captain NBN.

  • @lukenovotny5638
    @lukenovotny5638 Před 6 měsíci +40

    Turnbull strikes again.

  • @squeakyrabbit
    @squeakyrabbit Před 6 měsíci +48

    "We've learned a lot"
    "We've learned a few things"
    -Dennis Barnes

  • @geraldhagen2989
    @geraldhagen2989 Před 6 měsíci +116

    This is an old and true statement; if you want a project screwed up, involve the government.

  • @trj1442
    @trj1442 Před 6 měsíci +34

    Utopia in real life.

  • @FreeAsABirdSydneyAustralia
    @FreeAsABirdSydneyAustralia Před 6 měsíci +48

    Nice how they spend taxpayers money like it’s there own bottomless wallet

  • @criticaluplink
    @criticaluplink Před 5 měsíci +14

    When you call the project as a scheme, there you have it.

  • @kevinsteele2773
    @kevinsteele2773 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Show me a government project that hasn’t gone over budget or over time

  • @user-fl2wn5zr5z
    @user-fl2wn5zr5z Před 6 měsíci +37

    didn't they check the land composition before drilling

  • @zerkfiter
    @zerkfiter Před 6 měsíci +36

    Was she amazing or what?The nice farm lady with cane in one hand and digging tool in other.😊

  • @wheelitzr2
    @wheelitzr2 Před 6 měsíci +29

    This doesn't sound any different from any other large infrastructure project.

  • @emanuel290
    @emanuel290 Před 6 měsíci +43

    What's an extra 10 bil between friends 😅😅

  • @PunsaraSagarage
    @PunsaraSagarage Před 6 měsíci +20

    This is why your cost of living is high. Government taxing the sh!t out of people to cover these money black holes.

  • @philscott7949
    @philscott7949 Před 5 měsíci +10

    That's not a sink hole. Look at what happened in Lane Cove. Every concrete truck in Sydney filling it for 2 days. Now that was a sink hole.

  • @adamjones4951
    @adamjones4951 Před 5 měsíci +22

    "27km of tunnels can never stack up economically or technically "
    Man doesn't know about the 50km channel tunnel

  • @kwhblade
    @kwhblade Před 6 měsíci +38

    One has to wonder who benefits from these government infrastructure projects with their massive cost overruns its surely not the tax payer..
    Is it a lack of educated workforce or private corporation greed?
    If this wasn't a government backed project you can bet your life the project team would've been sacked for cost overruns and not hitting milestones like with any semi competent organisation in the modern world..

  • @peteypops
    @peteypops Před 6 měsíci +28

    It would be nice to watch a documentary without the unnecessary music mush.

  • @chrisblue46
    @chrisblue46 Před 6 měsíci +12

    Large scale batteries, ???? what does he think they're made of, and how they were made????

  • @MrFiftymill
    @MrFiftymill Před 6 měsíci +12

    The first thing they say. I’m proud.

  • @sundance2005
    @sundance2005 Před 6 měsíci +7

    5:39, when have you EVER heard a CEO here in the US say those words, I can't remember that I have.

  • @outwestcreatives127
    @outwestcreatives127 Před 6 měsíci +33

    I’m sad, Florence is all alone and has no friends 😥 #saveflorencethetbm

  • @kevwills858
    @kevwills858 Před 6 měsíci +30

    They should have a statue of Saint Leprechaun ... the St of Good Luck ☘

  • @irellevant906
    @irellevant906 Před 6 měsíci +232

    Better us blowing out a renewable energy project to 12 Billion than buying a war submarine for 368 Billion.

  • @cinemaipswich4636
    @cinemaipswich4636 Před 6 měsíci +90

    It seems that the tunnel machine is not travelling deep enough. Having a tunell barely below the surface is a mistake. Seismic testing along the route should have picked this up. Backing up the machine is a huge problem in itself. Perhaps digging out the sink hole, fortifying it, and steering downwards may be the only solution. At least the sink hold has road access. Perhaps calling quits is the best option.

  • @michaeljohn7398
    @michaeljohn7398 Před 5 měsíci +8

    A very interesting and thought provocing documentary.

  • @lillibitjohnson7293
    @lillibitjohnson7293 Před 6 měsíci +70

    It will get built and work eventually. Like every other huge nation building project we’ve had.

  • @skippydeenice
    @skippydeenice Před 5 měsíci +8

    my drunk mistakes are not as expensive

  • @dimensionaltravelerchanga1072
    @dimensionaltravelerchanga1072 Před 6 měsíci +20

    I wish these big dreamers good luck.

  • @kylesmith8128
    @kylesmith8128 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Sounds like a failure of planning and surveying rather than problem of contractors....

  • @jazzeejax5816
    @jazzeejax5816 Před 6 měsíci +11

    Underground power through farm land is insanely expensive not only to install but maintain, small price to pay

  • @tomfuelery2905
    @tomfuelery2905 Před 5 měsíci +9

    It's really easy to spend other people's money.
    Six times over budget?
    Oops. Oh well.

  • @sutherlandA1
    @sutherlandA1 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Yet the original snowy mountains scheme was finished early AND under budget

  • @Mark-ok8ss
    @Mark-ok8ss Před 5 měsíci +10

    Just build it and once it’s done. Nobody will remember the cost…. Remember the Sydney Opera House

  • @martinwyke
    @martinwyke Před 6 měsíci +29

    The contractors should be held to their original tender price and bear the cost of their mistakes.

    • @evil17
      @evil17 Před 6 měsíci +5

      That will never happen

  • @45Grace2009
    @45Grace2009 Před 6 měsíci +45

    Save the plamet from being fried? Puhleez ... stop the nonsense.

  • @diGritz1
    @diGritz1 Před 6 měsíci +37

    I'm pretty sure the first mistake was thinking any idea thought up at a pub...... shouldn't stay in the pub.
    Don't get me wrong, pubs are a great place to come with shi......I mean stuff. But it should stay there.

  • @hvacdesignsolutions
    @hvacdesignsolutions Před 6 měsíci +27

    Fail to plan, plan to fail.

  • @dr3857
    @dr3857 Před 6 měsíci +11

    How goods butter chicken?!?!! Scotty, such a man of the people....

  • @amadablam8229
    @amadablam8229 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Interesting. Hadn’t heard about this before.

  • @KaldekBoch
    @KaldekBoch Před 6 měsíci +6

    As much as this looks like a mess, in the future when we're using this power nobody is going to care that it ran over budget. Like, pick up an old newspaper and just read all the frothing at the mouth during every single large government project. Do any of you care? Nope.
    Not saying the stuff ups shouldn't be held to account, but what you going to do? Stop the whole project? Pfft.

  • @josephnulley6808
    @josephnulley6808 Před 5 měsíci +4

    This will be a very expensive Never Ending Story ........

  • @LifeOnHard898
    @LifeOnHard898 Před 5 měsíci +7

    I'm just a simple man but 6x over budget in reality isn't too far off. Seems like everything cost 6x more than it did in 2019

  • @mobster6665
    @mobster6665 Před 6 měsíci +46

    Watching my four year old dig and play in the sandpit I wonder if he and his friends should be put in charge of this blunder. Some of the 12 billion will be tunnelled off to mates and grifters. It looks like St Barbara will be reporting to her boss with hopeless pleadings.

  • @robertmiller2173
    @robertmiller2173 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I Love Australia,,,,, Kiss Hug from New Zealand

  • @lawrenceleske3470
    @lawrenceleske3470 Před 5 měsíci +6

    If batteries were bought instead, how much more, or less, would they cost?

  • @epmediaproductions3459
    @epmediaproductions3459 Před 6 měsíci +18

    This is like the TV Show Utopia. But it’s real! 🤦‍♂️

  • @user-td8op5hx6b
    @user-td8op5hx6b Před 5 měsíci +5

    "Saving the planet " ! Yikes

  • @thomaswhitelake
    @thomaswhitelake Před 6 měsíci +23

    A tunnel is a big hole in the ground that you pour taxpayer $$$ into.

  • @kevwills858
    @kevwills858 Před 6 měsíci +30

    Turnbull ... say no more ...
    No risk(or brains in engineering) besides a public promotion ..

  • @Whosetheworst
    @Whosetheworst Před 5 měsíci

    A truly monumental .... ..!

  • @MrFiftymill
    @MrFiftymill Před 6 měsíci +9

    Just another 12bill

  • @AlJay0032
    @AlJay0032 Před 6 měsíci +17

    So Australia is going to rescue the world now?

  • @rogerterry5013
    @rogerterry5013 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Once they are in for 2 billion they can't get out.

  • @beemerkon
    @beemerkon Před 6 měsíci +4

    Seems like people paying taxes got hood winked

  • @jameslaupan6499
    @jameslaupan6499 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Saint Barbara, the patron saint of tunneling. That ridiculous attribution pretty much sums it up.

  • @WyattEmge
    @WyattEmge Před 6 měsíci +4

    I dont think those farmers understand whats needed to underground power transmission lines. Its gonna destroy their land far more the. Transmission towers

  • @kenthoenen5484
    @kenthoenen5484 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Regardless of which side you're on, the risk taken is more of a gamble or role of the dice and clearly lost. There is a lack of accountability for poor decisions.

  • @180mph9
    @180mph9 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Energy transition 🤣🤣🤣

  • @neilruedlinger4851
    @neilruedlinger4851 Před 5 měsíci +1

    When the journalist introduced the CEO of the Snowy Hydro project, I was expecting a person with an Australian accent, not a foreign one?

  • @patrickmukora3184
    @patrickmukora3184 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Governments are wasteful and the contractor is obviously incompetent.

  • @dalebetterton5255
    @dalebetterton5255 Před 6 měsíci +9

    Who needs competence when you are trying to "SAVE THE PLANET".

  • @stunter2875
    @stunter2875 Před 5 měsíci +14

    Seeing the women taking care of the land and planting native plants is the best highlight of the video. Truly caring for the future generations and the land that we as humans need to survive.

  • @kerryscott3287
    @kerryscott3287 Před 6 měsíci

    Learning on the go, no you need to know before you start and anticipate what is unknown!

  • @yuglesstube
    @yuglesstube Před 6 měsíci +2

    Batteries? Environmentally disastrous.