I just got a full PC set for 420$ Here are the specs(I bought it second hand) CPU:i5 10th gen GPU:1070 ti HDD:512gb SSD:240gb Ram:16gb Monitor:msi 24" 144hz AIO: NZXT(I don't remember the model name) Speaker: Logitech z407 Keyboard:Keyboard keychron (I don't remember the model)
I wanted a non-glass case but they didn't have white in stock, so I have a glass case now. You should still manage the cables though for better airflow purposes.
I come from the early 2000 gamers era. "Rat's nest" cable management was kind of a norm. We just leave it a mess hidden in the back compartment as long as it doesn't affect the PC case airflow.
My friend once bragged that his back panel cable managment was so much better than mine, i said "you will regret that when you need to do something there"
He wont. Not having to dig trough all your cables is invaluable, and you can always take them out (unless you decided that zip ties make a good cable management).
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907bro, my PC looks like a rats nest in the back. You don't have to "dig" for anything. Just follow the cable from the slot it's running through into the back. Boom...you've found it 😂 There shouldn't be that much hooked into your PSU anyway. Mobo cable, 1 or 2 PCIE cables depending on graphics card model, CPU, maybe a SATA cable or two. For fan cables, buy a decent cheap fan controller on Amazon. Run all your fan cables to it. You're done. Or buy a case like the Montech King 95 that has a built in fan controller (pro model) and Velcro straps for your cables to run through lol. I made the mistake of making my cables neat in the back before testing my PSU when I built mine. Dead PSU. Had to rip it apart. Got a second PSU. I figured what are the odds this one is dead too. Made everything neat in the back. The second PSU received from an RMA was also dead. Ripped it apart again. Third PSU worked. I didn't make anything neat and don't even care lol. If something screws up, you will know what is what based on where it is plugged into your PSU.
Can I close my backpanel? If yes, then the cables are managed well enough 😂 If not, try to push the panel a little harder and if it still doesnt want to close: time to manage the cables better!
Not so much anymore, but when you had all those drives to plug in and upgrade over the years it made it a huge pain to have a system cable managed in the back. You have to undo the whole thing to plug in a sata drive. That's why I avoid zip ties when I can.
Also, cable managment isn't a big a deal when all the heat sources are water cooled so airflow is lower on the priority list to make way for higher spec components
I just built my first PC using Lian Li O11 dynamic and I have to say as far as cable management. It was very straightforward and simple to run cables where you want them!
I honestly started to appreciate those twisty wires with rubber cover much more than zip-ties over the years. They hold tight and you don't have to cut them every time you want to change something in cable management.
I've been buying used parts for years and never had any major problems. It's important to sus out the sellers, do some small talk etc. for a vibe check. With experience it's pretty easy to gauge when someone is trying to rip you off. Either way, with the amount you can save on things like GPU used, you could buy 2 and still spend less than buying it new. I scored a brand new EVGA 3070 while back for $270
Good practice is go new on motherboard, PSU, and storage as those are where most failures happen. Used CPU, GPU, RAM as long as there's no physical damage and the seller isn't blatantly trying to rip you off they'll be fine 99/100.
In 2021 I used CZcams and google to teach myself how to build a computer. Then sourced and built everything myself. It was an incredible experience but I will be happy to leave it to professionals moving forward. My cable management was horrendous lol.
personally i like sorting out my cable management so it doesn't become a pain in the near future because those dual chamber cases are on the massive side so that's another personal issue.
I personally like to have nice cable management in the back just so if something needs an upgrade or repair I know exactly where all the cables are and don’t have to deal with a mess
He needs to acknowledge the Antec P120 its absolutely perfect for budget ballers. Dual chamber case that I got on sale for $80? It's super clean and sturdy as well
I find it funny the cables they give you either expect you that have a huge case or tiny case. Also expectation is to have multiple components onto one power cable. When you do use those cables that way the components are 2 to 4 inches apart max and you get 6 to 8 inches of cable between which causes so much extra cable.
i have a Lian Li 011 Air Mini. I actually went from a RM850X PSU to a SF850L so I would have more room in the back for cable management. What i mean by cable management is stuffing the cables in the smallest place i can get them. It actually worked awesome with atleast half of the space in the back of my case being empty now just because of the smaller PSU.
I cable manage my cables to the point where its easily identifiable what cable goes to what, then group like cables with ties. Not groundbreakingly pretty but makes finding/replacing cables a breeze
Good to see the original video. I saw one with a dude plastering his face over the video and just saying random words every so often just to make noise
I yeeted all my cables into the back side of my dual chamber. I did however use specific colours for the Velcro straps just so I can pull out what I need easily.
You should really do a series on your channel where you go over different different parts of the PC enlisting budget mid-range high-end for for each part including the case
This was one of my favorite parts. When i built street cars, doing wire tucks was suuuuch an awesome look. Some motors we did, looked like they didnt even run lol cool to apply this to PCs
I do love to see how before I came along, cables were hidden much more. Since I showed sewing cables added to the aesthetics, cable clips and other options emerged, now being the DeFacto standard in a clean PC build. Hell yeah! I loved how Penny-wise took it to the next level and sewed cables end to end, from MB/GPU to PSU. That build was F'n clean.
I just got one of those new project-zero cases with a motherboard that has all the connections on the back so the wires are out of sight completely. Really looking forward to that build.
Ah, yes, the cable MISMANAGEMENT channel, where one can hide the inevitable cable mess that comes from the cables having to go all over and opposite the native PSU output order.
Surprisingly with my ADHD I had to cable manage after I built it. When I first built it I was like I will cable manage later. When I kept looking at it in the back I had to fix it, lol
i keep my pc under my desk since i dont have much space on my desk and i like to rest my legs on it, so i dont really worry about cable managment since i never really see the pc
the biggest obstacle doesn't tend to be the routing itself. It's often where the manufacturer placed the cutouts for the routing and especially the amount of play with the cables if there is any. certain companies have a bad habit of handing you cables that barely reach where their supposed to.
I had a friend growing up in like 2005 and he would always try show me how amazing it was to have mods and stuff. I should’ve listened to him sooner but it only took me till I was 29 to build a top of the line PC. Will never go back even for GTA I’ll wait till it’s on something that can actually play it.
Every Case is a dual chambered case if you push the back panel hard enough
😭😭 that’s the best thing I’ve heard all day
Exactly, my pc is pregnant right now lmao
Real
Mine crack 😭
W comment right here 😂
"This mustard Cables must have a death wish🎅🎅🎅🐡🥕"
where's the car
I just got a full PC set for 420$
Here are the specs(I bought it second hand)
CPU:i5 10th gen
GPU:1070 ti
HDD:512gb
SSD:240gb
Ram:16gb
Monitor:msi 24" 144hz
AIO: NZXT(I don't remember the model name)
Speaker: Logitech z407
Keyboard:Keyboard keychron (I don't remember the model)
And I don't play AAA game titles
I used it for programming shit
@@TengkuAriqbruh stop spamming
🎅🦀
Business in the front. Spaghetti in the back
You know, mullets are back in fashion anyways.
Office apps be like
Personally, cable management is more for when I have to inevitably go back there at some point.
@@wheelhouse69 this thread is getting way too sexual for my liking
@@locinolacolino1302out of context 😂
As long as the panel closes I'm good, I always tell myself I'll do it right this time. But I never do.
Same
what's the history behind that username
@@ottersmeep25 yeah why bread and Gatorade 🤔
We got it next time bud I promise
I personally like to super glue it all together into a clump
WHAT
BRUH YOU GOTTA BE JOKING
He just like me fr
Super glue is seriously underrated for cable management
Respectable strategy
I actually have a very simple fix for aesthetics. I don't have clear panels on my case.
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Ahh but have you seen the O11 Vision
Thats the real flex
Exactly, if the panels close and the cables don't get caught in the fans, it is perfect.
I wanted a non-glass case but they didn't have white in stock, so I have a glass case now. You should still manage the cables though for better airflow purposes.
Cable management is my fave part tbh. I like it when something looks organized 😂
I also love it when cables look organized, but I hate organizing cables myself 😅
I agree, I love to do it
Total agree with you on that🤝
POV- you have OCD
Not wrong
I come from the early 2000 gamers era. "Rat's nest" cable management was kind of a norm. We just leave it a mess hidden in the back compartment as long as it doesn't affect the PC case airflow.
Some cases didn’t even have side panels for cable management,like I think this was more common in 90s/early 2000s
I always stuffed it in "the attic" of the case above the DVD drive.
@@ashii_ii also there was no module Power Suplies, all the wires was in one space between the PS, Videocard and HDD`s )))
Back compartment? The had none back in the days, HDD/CD Drive cage was the place to go XD
@@ninetenduh Yeah, made a sleeper out of my moms eMachines and I had to make some tough decisions with cable management lol
My friend once bragged that his back panel cable managment was so much better than mine, i said "you will regret that when you need to do something there"
He wont. Not having to dig trough all your cables is invaluable, and you can always take them out (unless you decided that zip ties make a good cable management).
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907bro, my PC looks like a rats nest in the back. You don't have to "dig" for anything.
Just follow the cable from the slot it's running through into the back. Boom...you've found it 😂
There shouldn't be that much hooked into your PSU anyway. Mobo cable, 1 or 2 PCIE cables depending on graphics card model, CPU, maybe a SATA cable or two.
For fan cables, buy a decent cheap fan controller on Amazon. Run all your fan cables to it. You're done.
Or buy a case like the Montech King 95 that has a built in fan controller (pro model) and Velcro straps for your cables to run through lol.
I made the mistake of making my cables neat in the back before testing my PSU when I built mine. Dead PSU. Had to rip it apart.
Got a second PSU. I figured what are the odds this one is dead too. Made everything neat in the back. The second PSU received from an RMA was also dead. Ripped it apart again.
Third PSU worked. I didn't make anything neat and don't even care lol. If something screws up, you will know what is what based on where it is plugged into your PSU.
Bro doesn't mention the GOAT of dual chamber cases - Lian Li O11
He mentioned them ripoff ones though LOL.
I was thinking the same thing, crazy!
Frrrr, I was waiting for it but he skipped the best one
well, you either own a Lian Li or you don´t.
Just bought an O11 Vision for my first build
Cable management is my favorite part of building a computer.
Can I close my backpanel? If yes, then the cables are managed well enough 😂 If not, try to push the panel a little harder and if it still doesnt want to close: time to manage the cables better!
If 2nd push doesn't work too i guess i have spare back pannel 😂😂😂
@@Call_Me_Terjorn Easier exhaust, cant go wrong with that!
@@Rick020in my situation i just throw out HDD holder and i have like half of the case for cables 😂😂😂
@@Call_Me_Terjorn same i threw mine out too, but now i just have a ssd dangling cuz i got the ssd recently
I manage my cable like I do my life.
I dont.
XD
I ❤ this comment lmao
Have my like for the chuckle
Not so much anymore, but when you had all those drives to plug in and upgrade over the years it made it a huge pain to have a system cable managed in the back. You have to undo the whole thing to plug in a sata drive. That's why I avoid zip ties when I can.
I love cable management it's just so satisfying.
Performance is more important than aesthetic for gaming
It's what was forgotten when main streamers jumped on the nerd train far too late and due to mass numbers manipulated the market into one giant led
Bro went out of his way to make sure not to mention the GOAT and original dual chamber cases by Lian Li.
I dont care what it looks like. I don't stare at the interior of my pc. I just need it to work.
True 😂
Also, cable managment isn't a big a deal when all the heat sources are water cooled so airflow is lower on the priority list to make way for higher spec components
Don't think about the effort, but the satisfaction
I just built my first PC using Lian Li O11 dynamic and I have to say as far as cable management. It was very straightforward and simple to run cables where you want them!
ZTT try not to talk about aesthetics: level impossible 🗣️
I absolutely love all your videos man ❤
We need to see the reverse logic where the back is clean and the front is a mess
That would be me.......................unfortunately.
For some reason I love doing cable management, because the feeling at the end when you have a clean af PC is the best
I don't know, I find it oddly satisfying to mess around with cable-management. It's like a hypnotic therapy for me.
I honestly started to appreciate those twisty wires with rubber cover much more than zip-ties over the years. They hold tight and you don't have to cut them every time you want to change something in cable management.
Can you please convince my dad that buying used parts is a safe and solid practice?
If you are going 700$+ then safety of new components will be a relief.
Lol
I've been buying used parts for years and never had any major problems. It's important to sus out the sellers, do some small talk etc. for a vibe check. With experience it's pretty easy to gauge when someone is trying to rip you off. Either way, with the amount you can save on things like GPU used, you could buy 2 and still spend less than buying it new. I scored a brand new EVGA 3070 while back for $270
Good practice is go new on motherboard, PSU, and storage as those are where most failures happen. Used CPU, GPU, RAM as long as there's no physical damage and the seller isn't blatantly trying to rip you off they'll be fine 99/100.
Someone sold me a faulty 6600 xt
Out of sight, out of mind 🎶 🎵
Woah last time i came this early my girl was angry for 1 whole day
When it comes to cable management, duck tape is my solution whenever I ran out of cable ties
In 2021 I used CZcams and google to teach myself how to build a computer. Then sourced and built everything myself. It was an incredible experience but I will be happy to leave it to professionals moving forward. My cable management was horrendous lol.
Cable management is honestly the worst it takes so long if you have the wrong case😂
personally i like sorting out my cable management so it doesn't become a pain in the near future because those dual chamber cases are on the massive side so that's another personal issue.
I don't even mind cable management it's my favorite part
I personally like to have nice cable management in the back just so if something needs an upgrade or repair I know exactly where all the cables are and don’t have to deal with a mess
Everyone gangsta until the front cable connectors come 💀
"dual chambered cases" noted.
Asus GT502 Tuf is a superb option too.
It seems like they thought of everything for that case.
I hate thinking about fans, it's the only part that stresses me out, like i never understand the pins and stuff like that
This also works in single chamber cases if you just don't attach the back panel
He needs to acknowledge the Antec P120 its absolutely perfect for budget ballers. Dual chamber case that I got on sale for $80? It's super clean and sturdy as well
Jokes on you, I got absolutely 0 cable management.
if it closes it closes
Cable management is one of my favorite parts of building a computer 😅 lol
I find it funny the cables they give you either expect you that have a huge case or tiny case. Also expectation is to have multiple components onto one power cable. When you do use those cables that way the components are 2 to 4 inches apart max and you get 6 to 8 inches of cable between which causes so much extra cable.
i have a Lian Li 011 Air Mini. I actually went from a RM850X PSU to a SF850L so I would have more room in the back for cable management. What i mean by cable management is stuffing the cables in the smallest place i can get them. It actually worked awesome with atleast half of the space in the back of my case being empty now just because of the smaller PSU.
i LOVE cable management 😍😍
My favorite part is unboxing a new case before assembly
I cable manage my cables to the point where its easily identifiable what cable goes to what, then group like cables with ties. Not groundbreakingly pretty but makes finding/replacing cables a breeze
I built my first pc couple of months ago and my brother told me “as long as you can close the back you’re good.” My front is managed nicely though.
I've got the Lian Li 011D, and the second chamber is basically a cable shed, even with room for a dual hard drive sled.
Good to see the original video. I saw one with a dude plastering his face over the video and just saying random words every so often just to make noise
dual chambered cases saved my life
H9 Flow user here, the amount of room in the back is insane but I still went to organize my cables to be nice and tidy.
We don’t even have to worry about data cables running along with power anymore!
I yeeted all my cables into the back side of my dual chamber. I did however use specific colours for the Velcro straps just so I can pull out what I need easily.
You should really do a series on your channel where you go over different different parts of the PC enlisting budget mid-range high-end for for each part including the case
Cabllle management enthusiasts: ADHD? Monica from friends?😂
I like managing cables because if i have to replace a part it’ll be easier to find what cable it is..
This was one of my favorite parts. When i built street cars, doing wire tucks was suuuuch an awesome look. Some motors we did, looked like they didnt even run lol cool to apply this to PCs
I bought the deepcool morpheus and I'm in love with the case, awesome cable management
I agree, I'm building a PC for myself in the late summer, this time. I hope to make it look as good as the front.
Invest in Velcro or use black twisty ties rather than zip ties. Much easier to undo and change or add wires as needed
bro refuses to say the name of the king of dual chamber cases LIAN LI
King ? More like competition who can overprice thei cases better between NZXT Corsair and Lian Li 😂😂😂😂
I do love to see how before I came along, cables were hidden much more. Since I showed sewing cables added to the aesthetics, cable clips and other options emerged, now being the DeFacto standard in a clean PC build. Hell yeah! I loved how Penny-wise took it to the next level and sewed cables end to end, from MB/GPU to PSU. That build was F'n clean.
As others have said.. as long as the back panel closes: CABLES = MANAGED
I just got one of those new project-zero cases with a motherboard that has all the connections on the back so the wires are out of sight completely. Really looking forward to that build.
crazy how bro didn't mention the O11D, which started the whole trend.
Ah, yes, the cable MISMANAGEMENT channel, where one can hide the inevitable cable mess that comes from the cables having to go all over and opposite the native PSU output order.
Yes I love my dual chamber case! I would be ashamed of someone saw it from the back side though. Lol
you will ALWAYS regret using zip ties later
Cool, now when I need to work on my computer, I only have to cut 50 zip ties, this is so much more convenient
The thumbnail is clean asf
Surprisingly with my ADHD I had to cable manage after I built it. When I first built it I was like I will cable manage later. When I kept looking at it in the back I had to fix it, lol
Yeah don’t open my pcs back panel 😂it took me ages to close that Amazon jungle in there 😂
Just make sure the cable bunch is level enough to slide the back cover over..... lol
Yep lol. My build is business in the front, party in the back, and by party I mean a rat’s nest lol
That's cute, you guys should try cable management in an A09 case, with non modular PSU!
non modular PSU in this day an age. i found a real madman on the internet holy shit
That's the most fun part for me 😂
Cable management is like a car's engine bay. Nobody ever looks there.
It actually gotten much better, i remeber putting like ten cables just for the case, now with usb 3 and rgb getting teir own shit it's much easier
My backside looks like dresden 45. I've so much stuff in my case that there is no way to manage it. But in front it looks crisp.
I can relate almost too well 😅
Bro 😂
I love cable management, it's a hobby 😂
It’s the power switch for sure 😂
i keep my pc under my desk since i dont have much space on my desk and i like to rest my legs on it, so i dont really worry about cable managment since i never really see the pc
The boost panda case for 50 bucks is a steal for dual chambered cases
lancool mesh 2 has these little "covers" on the back panel that hide cables so you can still have tempered glass there. big fan of that case
The more tightly cable-managed a computer is, the more likely you are to have to disassemble it all because something quit working.
I don't care about how the PC looks I'm just here for performance off the PC
Whats the cheapest fish tank case that also looks good?
Considering how expensive some of those cases are, you probably have enough money to buy a modular power supply.
Completely forgot about the OG the lian li o11 dynamic
When your case doesnt have a window you can do what you want
This is the same exact thing you do in your builds: facade in the front, a mess in the back.
the biggest obstacle doesn't tend to be the routing itself. It's often where the manufacturer placed the cutouts for the routing and especially the amount of play with the cables if there is any. certain companies have a bad habit of handing you cables that barely reach where their supposed to.
You can cable management drunk with half a thought.
True, cable management its the only pain in the ass…
the montech king 95 is also a great dual chamber case and is partially cable managed in the back already
Some people get OCD with their cable management in the back. Like it has to be all super neat and stuff.
I had a friend growing up in like 2005 and he would always try show me how amazing it was to have mods and stuff. I should’ve listened to him sooner but it only took me till I was 29 to build a top of the line PC. Will never go back even for GTA I’ll wait till it’s on something that can actually play it.