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5 Reasons to Buy the Old Rolex Explorer 114270 Instead of the New One
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- In today's video I discuss 5 reasons I bought the Rolex Explorer 114270 (Old 36mm version) instead of the New Rolex Explorer 124270 (New 36mm version). I personally think that the older model is a better buy than the new model. Whether it be the price difference, general availability, or dimensions, the new Rolex Explorer 124270 is just a worse purchase. Expect a full review of my the 114270 to come out soon!
Please let me know in the comments what you think of my reasons to buy the older model instead of the new one. I love hearing what you all have to say!
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One other advantage - while the new movement is technically more advanced in certain ways, it's also more expensive to service / has more parts that can't be repaired (will need full replacement), and there have been quite a lot of reported cases of amplitude anomalies that affect performance + lead to premature servicing. The 3130 is a rock solid movement that will perform perfectly and be cheaper to service for many years to come, and it still features a good degree of anti-magnetism and shock resistance. The power reserve is less, but on a time-only watch, I don't care
Funny that I stumbled upon this video, my brother made the same decision as you and had similar thinking as you. Great video.
He seems like a smart guy lol
I own a 124270 and I love it for couple of reasons: 1) It fits my 6.25 in/16mm small wrist very well, the reason it looks smaller than the old version is the lug-to-lug distance is significantly reduced; 2) The lug width of 19mm of course brought inconvenience in swapping the straps, but it fits the watch size well, especially with the shape of the bracelet that slim down to the clasp; 3) I think one of the biggest advantages of this 124270 is that I can share it with my wife, it fits well on both man and woman's wrist.
I've owned both and prefer the 114270 (it's now my only watch). I wouldn't prioritise your third point. I think the 114270 is slightly less than 36mm too and I don't think anyone can feel the difference between less than 0.5mm on the wrist. The two deciding points for me that weren't mentioned in the video were the dial proportions and bracelet weight. I found the older bracelet to be more comfortable on the wrist due to the hollow centre links and I by far prefer the dial proportions of the 114270.
^ these are the factors I'm debating between the two models. Even down to things like the boldness and spacing of the text in the new model...I prefer the old one more and more. Just wish it had lumed arabics
@@drewsleyy3836 Update: I ended up selling the 114270 and buying the 124270 back from the guy I sold it to! Basically I think it just took me time to start to appreciate the new design of the 124270 which makes sense as I'd spent years with an idea in my head of what an explorer is 'supposed' to look like (114270) without really considering if the new design is better. Basically you can't go wrong with either one. Now they're both readily available I say just follow your gut as if you find one isn't for you, you'll always get 95% of your money back if you decide to sell.
the new dial looks goofy with the larger markers. It doesn't help that the bracelet is 19mm with the aggressive taper that you mentioned. It makes the watch head look like a lollipop, losing the original proportions of the Explorer. The bulkier clasp also looks odd as it is only 14mm which makes it look boxy as it is a lot thicker than the 114270 clasp.
I have the 124270 (for about 6 weeks now). The taper takes a while to get used to I agree but I'm over it. The 19mm lug width works better with the watch size, i.e. more pleasing proportions. The bracelet and clasp are excellent and the watch is accurate to about 1 second in 6 weeks!
I’m glad you have had a great experience with the new model. I tried it on and did enjoy it. I have those few tiny gripes I mentioned in the video, but overall it’s a better watch than the old one by almost every metric. I mainly got the old one to save myself some money.
@@JackOnWrist Can't go wrong either way.
@@jasons46 mine has not been that accurate, lucky for you
The only downer is the lack of loom in the digits
Do people really only buy watches on the basis of esthetics? The new Explorer has an updated movement which is far superior. Of course, the Omega Aqua Terra has an even better movement. And it is cheaper. So that is the right choice.
If you have both in hand, you will understand that the 124270 is way better than the old reference. I’m very happy with mine.
I tried on the newer model and I would agree. It certainly is a better watch by almost any metric. I just have those tiny gripes with it, but mainly I got the older model to save myself a couple grand.
Owned both ! I agree with your video 1000% . 114270 is the better of two in terms at least of how it wears which is most important . Guys with larger wrist go for older references
Could not agree with you more about the bracelet taper. I don't know why Rolex do not give customers the choice by offering different tapers given the price they are charging.
Yeah they should give the choice. Honestly not sure why they picked that stylistic choice. Seems like nobody really likes it haha.
@@JackOnWrist so the girlfriend can wear it
I think the same, the old Explorer is just a cooler watch.
My reason of choosing this explorer is mainly due to my customised chrome hearts silver bracelet that fit 20mm lug and I prefer watch case smaller than 40mm so that the total length wear comfortable on my wrist and I’m quite rough when putting on my chrome hearts bracelets. Therefore not recommended for putting on a new watch, preowned Rolex 114270 became the perfect choice.
I have the new 36mm and the 214270 mk2 39mm.
Agree with all 5 points here as a wearer of the new 36mm - the taper is aggressive!
On the plus side ; newer movement , 5 year guarantee etc!
Have both… Newer one is so far superior it’s not even close. Love your video though!
In all reality the new one is way better. Better movement, bracelet, etc. There are just some tiny things I like on this older model better. I would definitely consider owning the new model in the future. Out of curiosity, what makes you put on one versus the other on a given day?
@@JackOnWrist to lay out 10 grand you have to believe that. ask again in another year
Mm, in terms of certain upgrades, yes, but not a fan of the huge taper, too large clasp, short minute hand, enlarged indices which makes the dial feel more crowded. It’s definitely better in several ways but it’s far from a slam dunk.
My main issue with the latest 36mm is the taper is ugly and makes the watch more sporty looking, and its size makes it less versatile with other straps. I prefer the more classic silhouette of the 114 personally.
I saw, in some forums, complains about the new movement and that it would be more expensive to service. That would be a factor to consider as well..
Simply can't stand the proportions of the new 124270. Castrated and dainty.
Much prefer the 114270
I’ve owned the 14270 the 214270 (39mm) and now the 124270. The newest model is significantly the best. I downsized from 3 Rolex to cash out and wear the newest Explorer everyday.
It must have felt weird going from 39mm to 36mm??
You should measure the 114270 again. It's also 35.5mm
the datejusts were also 35.5 (or 4) tho rolex claimed 36mm
Just got the new one for retail. Never experienced the old one but i never thought I'd get one at retail so I'm happy...
Let me know how you enjoy it?
Those are all great points and it’s what’s gotten me to consider the older models too. I just can’t seem to narrow down the differences between the 114270 and the 14270.
The main one is the the slightly new movement and the solid end links on the 114270. I definitely found those things to be important in my decision, however, they are largely the same watch.
Also they updated and improved the movement on the 114270. IMO if you're going for that era 114270 is the one!
I made the same choice as you for similar reasons. The biggest driving factor for me was that I have an older Datejust (2001 vintage) and I love that older style folded metal bracelet. I have a newer OP with the new bracelet, but it seems less comfortable somehow. And its 20 grams heavier.
The 114270 was a wise choice.
I appreciate the kind words. I, like you, find the fold over style bracelet to be charming. Especially with this model having solid end links, it makes for a equally solid and yet vintage-esque experience.
the size argument is funny because when I pause video on comparison, the new one looks optically bigger because of better proportions and dial layout, the new one is superior in every way, but if I would own older one, I would stick with it, you cant go wrong with either one
You are absolutely right. You can’t go wrong with either one. For me, it just came down to the very minute details (and price of course).
I also have had both, and upgraded, the pros of the 124270 far outweigh the cons. The downsides I agree with are the price and availability. The fit and finish, movement, proportions, bracelet, etc. are better IMO.
Thank you for your comment. May I ask, as someone who has both old and new models, what makes you put on one versus other on a given day?
@@JackOnWrist I don’t have both anymore, sold the older model. Great channel, good luck!
@@lambamthankyoumaam Ohh I see. I misread your comment haha. That makes sense. Thank you!
Got the 224270 Explorer 40 and it's incredible, so comfortable.... Same movement as the no date sub, 70 hours power reserve.... It's perfect.
That’s awesome. Love the new 40mm size
39 is much nicer
@@whereRbearsTeethnope
Such a sweet watch! Enjoy it in great, good health!
I bought my 114270 before the newest came out, it’s an 08-09 with the rehaut which is exactly what I wanted. I didn’t really have a choice as the new wasn’t out yet and I prolly couldn’t afford the newest or source it. That being said I wouldn’t mind the update but I’m beyond happy about my explorer 1. I also have it coupled with the brother Explorer 2 and those two together beats off all over ever seen.
I’m not an explorer fan, but I like the case on the new one more. The lugs on the old one are too long.
Did you pick the the 114270 over the new model because the new model is not available? You made a wise choice. I just bought a 114270 six weeks ago and wear it every day. I own 20+ watches and I'm selling them all except for a Speedmaster and a Grand Seiko (and the Rolex, of course). "No one ever regrets buying a Rolex."
The 124270 not being available was the cherry on top of the skepticism sundae for the new model. I really enjoy the little differences that the older 114270 has. The lug width, lack of bracelet taper, size, etc all make this a more enjoyable watch for me. The only real area of regret is that newer 3230 movement has some improvements over the older 3130. But hey, not every watch is perfect.
@@JackOnWrist Good vid. Subbed and looking forward to more!
I chose the 114270. Better overall dimensions and I prefer the bracelet (outside of the clasp adjustments). Classic piece.
Cool vid. Thinking about it myself.
Swapping 20mm spring bars for straps and bands on a Rolex was reckless. If you fall into that category, well, it’s yours. So glad the 124270 has a heavier, tapered, professional bracelet. 19mm was a detractor initially, but now it’s a delightful constraint.
Helpful insights. Thanks.
Awesome!!! Thanks for the info.
Love the video very true reasons ....thank you😊
I need the 3 6 9 lumed!
39mm MK2 is the best Explorer. That being said, if I was going to go 36, I’d definitely choose the 114270 over the 124270
My vote goes to the new watch
If you got the money, no questions, get 124270.. that is a given.. by the way, new one actually looks bigger and bulkier than the old one. Better clasp, better bracelet,better looks, much better movement.. bracelet taperin is a good thing. Makes a more comfortable wear, and actually makes the body look bigger too..
solid center links, solid endlink, no rattling sound. Bracelet is worlds apart..
124270, it is a king❤there is a reason for the price difeerence😅
on 1 thing we agree though.. 36 mm explorers are just classy..
7inch wrist here..
I agree with you. If you have the money, gotta get the 124270. It is better built overall. As you said, you can’t go wrong with the 36mm explorer. It’s my favorite watch of all time.
BS
quite happy with mine, the 3230 is awesome
I think it would have been good if you could have talked a little about the things about the 124270 that are better than the older model to make this more balanced.. ..ie the accruacy of the movement, the fact it only needs to be serviced onced ever 10 years, the lume, the easy link extension, the bracelet generally. I actually do love the older version also....I think its a certain type of person who buys either of these 2 watches...refined, sentimental, non loud.... I cant stand the 39mm though, thats an insult to the heritage of the watch in my opinion....
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. I actually plan on making the opposite of this video. Talking all about why the newer model is much better than the old one. The 124270 is certainly a better watch in terms of the specification, but as you said, you can’t go wrong with either one of these. They both have a subtlety that really makes them special.
Don’t bank on that lie with 10 year services at this stage you will require 10 services in 10 years , 5 of which will be out of warranty
Love you opinions, I hope 124270 will not popular no one want it and can buy from AD. Because 124270 is the only watch I want to buy^^
I totally agree with you. Great video.
I got offered the 124270 twice this week, one from a flagship Rolex store that I walked in just for fun last week, and one from my main AD yesterday. I took the offer from the flagship AD. It seems that ADs are getting more and more stocks these days, which is great if you are in the market for one.
You’re right, I got the call today after two months!
All the points that u said negatively about the newer model, they are exactly why I love the new 36mm and bought 1.
To make the new Explorer truly unisex. The case and bracelet needed to shrink down a bit. Rolex is too smart.
Never thought about that. Great point.
good video....agree on all points
What sites did you find most helpful when searching for a watch to buy?
Honestly I would start with looking at sold eBay actions over the last few months. I find that to be the best representation of what real people are willing to actually pay. Looking at what big watch sellers are pricing them at is helpful but it doesn’t tell you what the actual sold numbers are. Hope that helps.
Where did you buy the watch? How much and did you pay tax?
I personally got the watch on ebay from the WatchBox. I don’t remember how much I paid on tax but there was no import tax.
Less than a year later, a minty 114270 is the same money as a 6/12 month old 124270. It won't be long before like for like, the earlier models will be more sought after & more expensive.
114270=
worst movement
worst bracelet
cheap clasp coming from a Chinese watch
worst lume
price is the same or too close to the new Ref if you're trying to get one that hasn't been through WW2 (beat up to hell)
while you can alway aim for the much improved 124270 unless it's a very good deal.
Great reasoning! All really cool watches.
Thanks for watching!
Hi do you happen to know if the 114270 is antimagnetic? I cant find much info on the net and im contemplating between this and the 124270 as my first rolex.. thank you in advance :)
This was a big deal for me as my future job is going to be working with some potentially magnetic equipment. My understanding is that it is somewhat resistant but not to the level of something like a milgauss or the modern 124270 explorer.
Smart man , stay far away from the new 32xx movements , huge problems . 10 million huge problems out there , can’t believe Rolex knows this rage of movements are lemons and they just keep churning them out . Going to be a big expensive lesson for all . I love Rolex but I’ll keep all my 31xx till they bring out the 33xx . Can’t believe that no one does any research before buying the new Rolexes , open your eyes guys you are going to get burnt
Yup! I happen to stumble on one or two videos of a guy talking about the low amplitude problem the 32XX movements have. Boy I'm glad I didn't put my name on a list for the newer 36mm. I'm going to look for an older model for sure.
I haven’t actually heard about these problems. I’m going to have to look into this. Thank you for the comment.
@JackOnWrist Now you have six seasons not to buy the newer Explorer. 😉
BS
Own the new and have had the old. They aren’t even close new model is superior
New model is a great ladies watch
On the waiting list for the 124270 - cannot wait for the call!
got the call today
There’s no such thing as the “list”
@@whereRbearsTeeth correct because I’ve had zero calls
that's a real ugly clasp for the old model.
I definitely prefer the look of the clasp of the new one but when on wrist the old one looks pretty good imo.
I’m probably in minority but I love the older clasp
19mm = deal killer
5 of the worst reasons not to buy a brand new better made watch I have ever seen. There is literally no reason to buy that rattley light watch over the new model. I still like the older version. But please people buy the new one if you trying to decide between the two (for some strange reason)
To each their own. I think these reasons are valid. If anyone is purchasing something for 5 to 6 thousand, they should be fully comfortable with it.
@@JackOnWrist fair enough 👍
…..says the guy wearing a Casio