Best budget 1000 hp plus reliable LS engine build up!!!

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • I have played with the 1000 hp number and north of it and found its a very dangers number to shoot for on stock gen 4 internals. In this video I show you what has worked incredibly well for me on a budget. Stock pistons are not forgiving at high hp. Stock gen 4 rods are not much better. If you want to make and easy 1000 hp all day long and not worry about it on a moderate budget this is for you. Sure many have broke the 1000 hp mark on stock bottom ends but for how long. If anything leans out even a little your done. After trying that approach and finding the limits several times its not worth not spending a little more. I know haters will say its not needed. I would disagree if you want any hope of reliability. Stock blocks are very strong especially iron ones. I prefer the 6.0 just because it gives you the extra cubes to light turbos sooner for street use. 5.3 and 4.8 can still reach the 1000 hp limit without much more than 20-25 pounds of boost. Please leave any comments or questions. I will respond.

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  • @Freds_05
    @Freds_05 Před 2 lety +4

    Can you make a list of all parts with part numbers???.... That motor is SICK!!!!

  • @Nanan00
    @Nanan00 Před 3 lety +6

    Dude, ripping ring lands off is because of the increased thermal expansion from running hotter. The rings grow and will stick to the cylinder bore unless you open up the gap so gap your damn rings to a minimum of .020 for a 4" piston for a sub 1k hp build, go up to .025" up to 1500hp, after that your off in custom hardware and talk to your forged piston provider.

  • @killercodplays
    @killercodplays Před 4 měsíci

    Man you are a awesome teacher... Thank you !!!!

  • @kennethjones7239
    @kennethjones7239 Před 3 lety +3

    “Much started, nothing finished and screw a budget” is more like it.

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 3 lety

      Video coming shortly. Much done almost driving and on budget. Just not good at posting.

    • @kennethjones7239
      @kennethjones7239 Před 3 lety

      I think you are missing the point. You titled the video “Best budget 1000hp plus reliable LS engine build up!!!”. Yet, it’s not built, not making 1000 hp, reliability requires proof and most people use the word budget to mean cheap. That’s my point, get it now ?

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 3 lety +1

      Kenneth Jones it is built. What some deem on budget is up to them. It will make 1000 hp all day long. That said I don’t build 1000 hp ls engines without a 500 dollar set of rods and some decent 700 dollar pistons. To me this is cheap. Can it be done on a tighter budget, sure. Why don’t you consider forged rods and pistons “built”? I think most do. I’m in this motor about 2700 and I know it will safety make a 1000 hp daily. What am I missing here? Obviously you need to see a fresh video that is coming that will show this almost ready to run. I will drop a new vid in the next two weeks on this project.

    • @kennethjones7239
      @kennethjones7239 Před 3 lety

      Sorry, I just can’t make it any plainer, more descriptive or obvious than in my prior comment. You obviously can’t see the forest because of all the trees...
      I have daily driven a ring gapped stock bottom end 5.3 LS, with cam, springs and turbo for the past four years. It makes 600 hp on pump gas with a best number of 914 on race gas. I thought I was going to learn something from this video but was disappointed, that’s all.
      Once you build it, dyno it and put it thru it’s paces for a while we can discuss economics.

    • @mr.know_it_all
      @mr.know_it_all Před 3 lety +5

      Kenneth Jones If you are making 1000 hp why do you need to “learn something” from another 1000hp video 🤦🏻‍♂️ Maybe you need to learn power curves from various cubic inches vs peak numbers you prick.

  • @richardcoleman9645
    @richardcoleman9645 Před 3 lety +1

    I just got an 06 2500hd lq4 motor and am building it for 600-800 hp. Doing the entire engine but didn't want to spend $2000 on engine parts alone. But will be my daily driver also. Rods for 400 and pistons for over 600 was more than I wanted to spend for good parts. Your gonna have $3k or more in just that motor not counting what you gave for the block. WOW.

    • @runninitup4L
      @runninitup4L Před rokem

      gets real expensive man, im $3k into my built 5.3

    • @richardcoleman9645
      @richardcoleman9645 Před rokem

      @@runninitup4L that $2k went far over and still ain't done. Lmfao

  • @davidvonanderseck8649
    @davidvonanderseck8649 Před 3 lety

    Wow keep me updated. Can’t wait to see this run.

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 3 lety

      hopefully in the next couple months we have it moving

  • @americanspeedshops823
    @americanspeedshops823 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice video. We love our CP products!!!

  • @SouthernSpeedVideos
    @SouthernSpeedVideos Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the quality upload! Good info. I'm gonna be building a budget 5.3 on the side so I have it ready to go in once these 4.8's give up the ghost. Always been a fan of CP on all my 4cyl stuff since 2004. Will def look into those rods.. see them on all of Steve's vids. Subbed for sure.

  • @mr.t3237
    @mr.t3237 Před 4 lety

    awesome 👍 can't wait to see what comes next

  • @thedornanfam-blogsplusmore8510

    I don't want to use turbos though, I'd rather keep it NA for reliability purposes. And my oil won't get corrupted and won't have to worry about proper startup and shutdown procedures

  • @davidreed6070
    @davidreed6070 Před 11 měsíci

    GM claims the LS3 heads have a 7.50 deck thickness so they should hold a thousand pretty easily.

  • @DesTakeFlight
    @DesTakeFlight Před 9 měsíci

    Great video 👍🏾. Question I know u said it’s S485 but is that the 85/96 turbo by forced induction with an AR 1.15 ?

  • @reminoel483
    @reminoel483 Před 4 lety +20

    So best "budget" LS setup... fully Build LS3 with aftermarket crank/rod/piston, running on meth injection? Hell no. 5.3 with stock crank, summit piston/rod, sloppy cam, PAC springs, cheap MLS gaskets and VS billet turbo

    • @ls4.8frank
      @ls4.8frank Před 4 lety +3

      Yes that is all true, but to be able to reliably hold 1k HP or more on a daily driven heavy sleeper truck then yes, the shirt block does need to be built. I have the L20 4.8L in my 2011 Silverado extended cab and it will hold 800HP reliably, but anything more than that then yes it does need to be built.

    • @toddcotten8157
      @toddcotten8157 Před 3 lety

      WHICH SUMMIT PISTONS GEN 4 5.3 .O30 .CANT AFFORD THE PRO SERIES ,TRYING TO STAY UNDER 300.00 .TURBO 700 HP TO 900HP

    • @joelstatosky1817
      @joelstatosky1817 Před 3 lety

      ​@@ls4.8frank . Yeah that's true, I know a friend who owns a 1000hp civic and he pretty much build everything to the best he could just so he could drive it daily. However it is probably a lot more expensive for the ls engine

    • @joelstatosky1817
      @joelstatosky1817 Před 3 lety

      @@toddcotten8157 . Save up your money my guy it is worth it in the long run

    • @obsant7214
      @obsant7214 Před 3 lety

      So u can run summit stock bore pistons and rods with the stock crank and u won’t have no issues and will u have to get it balanced?

  • @joshgessinger4509
    @joshgessinger4509 Před 3 lety

    Looks like ring gap issue to me but maybe u gaped rings idk. Ring gap is the biggest issue when boosting a stock LS engine. Iv saw stock lS making 1500 hp more than a few times on stock bottom. How long did they last idk couldn’t tell ya but ring gap is crucial. Cool build great video just sharing information not a know it all by all means lol!!

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 3 lety +1

      It was rings. Maybe I didn’t know it then. For sure they touched

    • @joshgessinger4509
      @joshgessinger4509 Před 3 lety

      @@Brainstangs lol!! Ya actually something i just actually learned myself in the past year or so. Great video really enjoyed it some great information in there keep up the cool builds and keep us posted.
      Thanks
      Josh.

  • @Indonesia01ian
    @Indonesia01ian Před 3 lety

    Hi. I newly interest with automotive
    I am amaze with your buildm congrats 👍
    By the way. I still don't really get a point. Why some engine could go up to 500++ hp some other just below it. Even with higher CC

  • @johnathancatchings2080

    Can you show part list and part numbers please?...

  • @davidreed6070
    @davidreed6070 Před 11 měsíci

    I've got a question for you. I run real close to the same combination as you, but for room I use small twins. I have 66s The hot side has 73/ 80 wheels with a. 91 ar. People tell me they will be to lazy for the street, what do you think.?

  • @Only1English
    @Only1English Před rokem

    Question is. If you were building an LS motor and were shooting for boosted 1200-1500 hp range
    Would you use an iron or aluminum block.
    Would an aluminum block hold up with all the good internals with eagle crank good rods pistons and arp hardware.

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před rokem

      it would for the most part. Its the sleeves that can crack on an aluminum build. As long as sleeves are not too thin you can do it.

  • @ls4.8frank
    @ls4.8frank Před 4 lety +1

    If you can do it with a 5.3 or 6.0 then it can easily also be done with a 4.8L.

  • @mikeeagle2653
    @mikeeagle2653 Před 4 lety +5

    That happened because you didnt gap the rings. DUH 🙄

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 4 lety

      not true. I have broke ring lands without ends touching. Just weak pistons will break ring lands too. But yes that can do it but was not the case on this pistion

    • @mikeeagle2653
      @mikeeagle2653 Před 4 lety +2

      Brainstangs
      Then it’s the tune. Ring lands just don’t break for no reason especially on an LS gen 4.

    • @mikeeagle2653
      @mikeeagle2653 Před 4 lety +1

      Brainstangs what were the rings gaped at?

    • @royvarndelljr.2086
      @royvarndelljr.2086 Před 4 lety +1

      Summit also makes stock stroke forged cranks tested over 1200hp

    • @royvarndelljr.2086
      @royvarndelljr.2086 Před 4 lety +2

      Adding to much boost without gaping the rings correctly will brake the piston.

  • @alexmachado5636
    @alexmachado5636 Před rokem

    How did you get those engine pro rods? What website did you get them from?

  • @johnanderson6255
    @johnanderson6255 Před 2 lety

    Question sir iam doing a 5.3 is weisco pistion rods and k1 crank wit a 88mm turbo trying to make 1200 whp do you think its will live wit out killing it and iam do methanol injection tell what u think please

  • @angelo_giachetti
    @angelo_giachetti Před 3 lety

    Im wondering how well the stock 6L80 is holding up?

  • @chipturd55
    @chipturd55 Před 3 lety +1

    U didn't gap those rings. Don't blame the piston sloppy and Richard holder will prove u wrong . Jist another salesman business owner marking up prices

  • @Kayaan_thegreat
    @Kayaan_thegreat Před 3 lety

    Can u put the website for the billet pistons in description

  • @daveerrington5166
    @daveerrington5166 Před rokem

    Did you ring gap the pistons before they went bad?

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před rokem

      we did but possibly not enough. From what I have seen in the last couple of years is they can live if the tune is spot on. Not a lot of forgiveness though. I do have buddies running 8s in there foxbodies with all stock bottom end close to 1000 whp. So for some it works.

  • @Rodgarc32
    @Rodgarc32 Před 3 lety

    How many runs can you get out of this set up

  • @Joshlindsay22
    @Joshlindsay22 Před 3 lety +1

    How much horsepower do you think I can get out of a built forged rotating assembly studded twin borg Warner 55mm turbos

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 3 lety +2

      more info needed. whats the engine look like? what are the specs. how much boost you looking to run. Basic ls engines get close to 1000hp without a lot of trouble around 25-28 lbs given everything is right on.

    • @Joshlindsay22
      @Joshlindsay22 Před 3 lety

      @@Brainstangs btr stage 1 truck turbo cam tsp stage 2.5 ported 5.3 heads should be like a 9:5:1 comp and arp studs all around

    • @Joshlindsay22
      @Joshlindsay22 Před 3 lety

      @@Brainstangs and on a 5.3 liter I didn’t mention

  • @FPS360VIDZ
    @FPS360VIDZ Před 2 lety

    So how long did this motor last?

  • @TucksGarage
    @TucksGarage Před 4 lety

    How did this engine turn out? If it completed and running of course

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 4 lety +3

      its fully built and will be running on the engine stand shortly for a video. Just working on getting funds for a few more things. Keep an eye out for its first start on the engine stand!

    • @bobthebuilder201
      @bobthebuilder201 Před 3 lety

      @@Brainstangs how much you charge to build the 1000whp ls?

  • @2JZLS
    @2JZLS Před 3 lety

    How much HP do you think the NV4500LD can hold with a good clutch?

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 3 lety

      all depends on traction. If you hook hard you could blow it with 500

    • @2JZLS
      @2JZLS Před 3 lety +1

      Brainstangs 🙏

  • @jeffsteve1
    @jeffsteve1 Před 3 lety +1

    What rods were those

  • @EricC7676
    @EricC7676 Před 4 lety

    What cam are you running in this setup??

  • @jasperpipes4222
    @jasperpipes4222 Před 4 lety +3

    1000 Hp in the US is about 600 Hp in the rest of the world...

    • @tuckerprestridge559
      @tuckerprestridge559 Před 4 lety +1

      No.

    • @jasperpipes4222
      @jasperpipes4222 Před 4 lety +1

      FACT !

    • @user-bv4nd8lp8m
      @user-bv4nd8lp8m Před 7 dny

      1000hp is a 1000hp any where in the world lmao. Although at the drag strip a 1000hp looks like 600 to 500hp foxbodys with c4 trans and slicks all the time tho 😂😂😂

  • @rockyriverracing1429
    @rockyriverracing1429 Před 2 lety

    Does anyone know what brand rods those are?

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 2 lety

      engine pro

    • @rockyriverracing1429
      @rockyriverracing1429 Před 2 lety

      @@Brainstangs thanks! I forgot I posted this. I finally figured it out. I think it’s cool to see someone like Steve using such a lower priced rod and proving that some times you really are just paying more for a name. It’s cool to see him put them to the test so we don’t have to! It really seems that most of all the h beams come from the same foundries.

  • @corndawgz
    @corndawgz Před 3 lety

    where's your shop located

  • @19Clutch69
    @19Clutch69 Před 2 lety

    How does one in contact with you? Through here or?

  • @MountainBikeZachMelHambelton

    Which LS is this?

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 4 lety

      this is 6.0 gen 3 iron block from a 2500 hd truck, 02 to be exact

  • @TheZSITCHIN
    @TheZSITCHIN Před 3 lety

    The ring land breaks because of ring gap you are clueless Bro the rings have to be filed and gapped as much as .035 so they don’t close the gap and touch and lift the ring landing and break the piston like you showed in this video

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 3 lety

      Clueless. Yep. I admit it was a ring gap issue. I do now think they touched. If your running .035 gap your clueless. Way too much. I run 1300 hp on .026 4.030 bore

  • @TroyPatterson310
    @TroyPatterson310 Před 4 lety

    E85 and gap the rings more.. problem solved

  • @jimimacross6115
    @jimimacross6115 Před 4 lety

    What was your ringgap sat 2?

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 4 lety +1

      I use 24 thousands on boosted ls stuff with 4 inch bores or approximately.006 x bore

  • @jonathanschrader7881
    @jonathanschrader7881 Před 3 lety

    Bro your piston broke beacuse you did not gap it right. Like look at the piston broke at the ring land... MY MAN... Thats your fault as a builder not the engines parts. Top ring needed more gap. If you argue that you dont know what your doing and are giving bad advice.

    • @Brainstangs
      @Brainstangs  Před 3 lety

      I’m not arguing that. I do believe the rings touched. And I will also say no pistons ring land will live without enough gap. Forged or not.

  • @seanbailey8545
    @seanbailey8545 Před 4 lety

    What size turbo will you use for 1100?

  • @joemamastinks
    @joemamastinks Před rokem

    Budget built 6.2 😂

  • @justingordon2293
    @justingordon2293 Před 4 lety

    How do I get in contact with you?

  • @chipturd55
    @chipturd55 Před 3 lety

    Dudes a JOKE

  • @Brainstangs
    @Brainstangs  Před 4 lety

    Bwmotors2u@msn.com