1 Year and 20K Miles with the 2022 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon EcoDiesel - A Review & All of the Upgrades
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- čas přidán 6. 12. 2022
- We've officially had the 2022 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon Ecodiesel for one year and just over 20K miles! We've crossed the country with it, overlanded, off roaded, snow wheeled, daily drove, camped out of this rig. It has performed flawlessly. Check out the video for a thorough walk around of the mods and review.
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I typically hate listening to people review their truck, but you actually hit on what I care about and didn’t waste time on pointless stuff. Thanks, I enjoyed it!
Thank you I appreciate that. I thought it was a bit long winded but I wanted to include everything that I figured to be pertinent information.
Thanks for the post. Nice review. I have a 3.6 JT. I like what you did with the tonneau cover and the rack. Thank you for posting videos on those installations. Very helpful to the rest of us. I subscribed and am enjoying the other videos posted.
Thanks for the support! It is much appreciated! Trying my best to put out the most helpful and enjoyable videos.
Very nice! Solid accessories. Someday will be going the JL route, the JK is still going strong, but man, the JL and Gladiators are step above gor sure. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the comment! I love both my Jeeps for different reasons. Something special about both of them and each serves a purpose.
Good information. I appreciate real world thoughts. I currently have around 12k miles on my 2022 JT Rubicon Eco. I like your sensible mods, and am looking to do something similar. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the comment! I do love this truck and it doesn’t take much to build them out.
Really liked the presentation! I would love to have a Gladiator, especially if they made a 2 door variant. You gave a very informative review.
Thank you very much! I was worried it may have been a little long winded. A two door variant would be amazing as a trail rig!
Yes,
I love the look and feel (driving off-road) short truck/ jeep...
And personally Love the bobbed bed look!
Future is looking good
I think the bobbed Gladiators look awesome!
We’ve got similar setups. My 2022 JT eco pulling 20 ft , 5500 lbs travel trailer and doing 20 mpg. No issues. I also got the AEV lift which I’ll be installing soon. Also got 2018 JKUR is my rock crawler. Love the JT diesel and would definitely get another one.
Definitely seeing a lot of similarities. I like your style 👊
I got a kick out of the way your face lit up when you posed the question of would you still buy the truck. Heck yeah you’d buy it again! It’s such a nice driver.
Hell Yeah Brother 😎
Great review, it appears we have identical Jeeps except for the dash color. So far I love the truck as well. I live in the Appalachian Mountains in SWVA and other trucks I’ve had were terrible on fuel and struggled pulling a boat up the mountains. This is a different animal and it’s nice!
Good to hear! I was wondering how the diesel would do pulling up hills. Glad to hear you’re liking it!
Just subbed due to your presentation style. Straightforward & no nonsense. Liked your 2" lift and preserving the original wheels on new larger tire approach. Looked great and saved some funds for other improvements.
Considering this Jeep for our RV toad. Not the first to do so as we see them all over the country behind RVs. Our coach is a diesel pusher so filling with diesel fuel and managing DEF are NP...especially since Jeep placed the fill for each on the drivers side which is truck stop friendly. We fuel up using a publicly available fleet discount card so we do not pay pump prices (typically 40 cents less up to 1.00 less @ T/A and other participating Truck Stops). So we would have a one fuel set-up with DP & Jeep. (DP is all electric with Cummins diesel engine, Aqua-hot diesel furnace & water heater, plus 10K diesel generator (Cummins Onan w/ Kubota 3 cylinder)).
Would be interesting and I am sure someone has done the math on the real cost differences between fueling this platform with diesel/DEF vs Gasoline. Overlooking the 4K upcharge for the engine itself lol but there is no disputing that more torque is better! Our DP delivers 1,250 ft lbs of it...such that our 37' Class A breadbox shaped bus with a GVWR of 37,600 lbs., averages 11.5 MPGs! (Cummins L9 mated to the Allison 3000MH). A gas powered equivalent would see about 7mpg, not pull the hills as well and certainly not enjoy downhill engine braking.
Aftermarket Jeep support as you say is phenomenal. We plan to haul 2 kayaks, 2 bicycles, auxiliary fresh water and gray water bladders for boondocking extended stays, etc etc. For future use, really intrigued by the slide in campers for these. Kind of a mini-GXV or Earthroamer pkg. without the million dollar entry fee.
Thanks for the sub! Sounds like you have a pretty solid setup! We have thrown around the idea of getting a motor home but it will be one of those things that would be years down the road. I would definitely want to do a diesel pusher as well as they just tow way better. I have seen many people use the JT as their toad vehicle and it really is a good platform. We just drove it from Michigan to South Carolina. We’re down here for the week to do some off-roading and enjoy the warmer weather. Jeep drove great and we averaged 25 MPG on the drive down. Thanks for the comment and let me know if you have any other questions.
Great review! I came here after watching your Holy Cross video to see what your setup is. I'm even more impressed you did Holy Cross with a 2" lift on a long wheelbase. I went with a JTR gasser and love it, although the diesel is still tempting although not sure I want to deal with the greater complexity. The 8spd+Pentastar is a much better combo than the JKU's 5spd, but yeah could still use some more torque.
Hey, thanks for checking out some other videos! I love the diesel gladiator as I feel like it pushes the 37s easily with no need to regear. I have a JKU with the Pentastar as well and it does leave a lot to be desired.
I have a 2017 Ram 1500 Laramie 2WD (nothing special) and have been interested in the Gladiator for years. The smaller interior space concerns me though since I often need to carry 2 kids and an adult in the back. Nice review man!
Thank you! We have a Ram as well and the Gladiator interior space is considerably smaller but it works for us. Thanks for the comment!
Great review - new sub and thinking about getting a diesel Gladiator
Thanks! I’m rolling up to 40k miles and still running strong 💪🏻
I have about the identical Gladiator, except I opted for the white top. Sounds like your getting better mileage though. I have 35’s and am averaging 17-19 I’d say. Love the Tazer. Also looking to get the banks Derringer w/pedal monster. I’ve heard great reviews. I also tow a 16’ aluminum cargo trailer so the extra ponies would be nice. Going to check out the rest of you channel. Great review and I would agree with it all.
Thanks for the comment and for checking out other videos. I try putting out the best content I can produce. Lots of adventure videos with the Gladiator and my JKU.
Have a 2021 JTRD with MOPAR 3.5" lift and 35" tires. 15k miles. I get 22mpg around town, but not much more on the highway. Probably because I drive >70. I tow utility trailer and my 19' boat with no problems. No repairs yet, except I got the recall notice for the fuel pump and will be bringing in for that when they have parts. I wish I had time to do more off roading and use that aspect of the truck. DEF use is probably same as what you're saying you get. I have been using the boxed stuff, but will try using some at the nearby Bucee's stop which I know has some. Really enjoyed your video. Thanks.
Thank you very much! Didn’t know about the fuel pump recall. Perhaps my notice is still in the mail? I don’t tow much with mine but when I do it’s also my 19’ boot to and from the launch which is less than a mile. Tows really well. Thanks for the insight and comment!
Had 22 gladiator for two years first rate. Going to buy a new one this summer.
Nice! Yup, still got mine. Just rolled over 50k miles and going strong!
Wow. Nice review definitely worth watching. The other reviews where they have a shaky phone and walk around leave a lot to be desired.
Thank you. I try to make all of my videos as professional as possible. Nobody likes shaky video.
Really nice Gladiator...I have the Rubicon wrangler with the ecodiesel lifted like yours... I have the AFE momentum cold air intake, derringer tuner and pedal monster....I love it and my 22mpg
Right on! I’ve heard good things about the derringer tuner. Does it affect warranty at all?
@@TrailExpedition it’s a plug and play tuner that does not effect the computer. Basically you can take it off if you need to have service done on the motor with no trace of it being installed. The power is really noticeable- night and day difference! Thanks for the reply..
Hmm 🤔 I may have to look into this!
A wench serves beer.
A winch pulls you from a bad situation
Good deal. I’ll take one of each!
Nice video. I've also got a JTRD and love it. Currently still running the stock 33" tires. You have any issues running the 12.5" wide tires on the stock rims? I've heard people say don't do it (go to 8.5" wide rims), but others say its fine. Curious about your thoughts? I"m planning on going to 35" tires eventually and want to keep the stock rims if possible... Cheers!
I’ve run my 37s on the stock wheel for almost 20k miles and have had no major issues. Only very slight rub when turning lock to lock at slow speed. Not a big deal to me as I just turn it the other direction ever so slightly. Still have 95% of my turning radius.
Love my diesel jt, it does tow better till it gets hot, something I’ve noticed is tire weight is almost as noticeable as tire size with stock gears (no 4-10s in diesel gladiator)
Right on. Yeah, I tow minimally and I live in Michigan so it doesn’t get terribly hot. The increase from 33” tires to 37” tires I really didn’t notice.
Since you have the cold weather group and a Tazer... You can actually set it up that the auto-turn on piece will turn on the passenger seat heat as well. (Really useful if your wife likes a warm seat too.)
Good to know! I’ll probably leave that function off though because most of the time it’s just me in the truck driving back and forth to work. Cool option though!
@@TrailExpedition Yeah... It's all of 3 button presses and not like it hurts the life of it by much anyway.
One thing about the tazer... If you haven't already.. turn OFF the lightshows in the software... you can actually trigger then via the key fob if done wrong...
And..
If you press the unlock button 3 times (I think) it actually has a functionality to turn on your rear lights/bed lights as well. Cooldown mode is nice when towing up grades though... especially when hauling heavy stuff.
A local dealer has a Willys gladiator with the winter pack, aux switches headliner but the smaller screen for 48K new and your video was ver helpful. I'm in a long bed Colorado diesel 4x4 which is longer with a longer wheelbase so that part would be better in the jeep. I'll miss the 37 mpg highway but lifting the jeep is far simpler than the Colorado.
Happy to hear my review was helpful! I don’t know a whole lot about the Colorado platform but jeeps are super easy to lift and put big tires on. After my lift and 37 inch tires I average around 24 miles to the gallon which is not bad for a jeep.
@@TrailExpedition Thanks. That's not bad.
It was just shy of 30 mpg when stock.
Nice!
Thanks 🙏
Have you ever added spacers for the suspension on the JT or JK? Considering the extra weight or age, sagging? I'm starting to notice the JK is just starting to sag maybe a bit. I have a 2 inch Mopar lift thats not too old, looking at options without having to go to a 4 inch lift. Thoughts?
The AEV lift on the Gladiator is essentially a spacer/puck lift. It is one of the more expensive ones but it comes with a lot of extras. I’ve been happy with it. Gets the jeep lifted for not a lot of money.
Very nice set up, did you have to put spacers to keep the factory wheels??
Nope! No spacers required. I do have very slight rubbing at full lock and low speed but it’s not enough to justify spacers.
Have you had any rubbing, such as against the sway bar, with the 37” tires?
At complete full lock I have very minor rubbing. Not a big deal. If I hear it I just let off a little bit. It’s definitely not enough to want to or need to run spacers.
Probably shouldn’t have, but I hauled a 29’ car hauler empty with my gladiator(gas), it handled no problem
Impressive! I think they are more capable than people think.
sure thing shirley for sure
You serious, Clark? 😆
Amazing review! Would you ever want the 392 JL over the gladiator diesel? Debating these two.
Thank you and personally, no. The 392 is awesome but it does not fit my needs of wanting more cargo capacity and better fuel mileage. For example, we just drove from Michigan to Colorado and back with all of our camping gear all while averaging 24 mpg. That’s a win in my book.
@@TrailExpedition thank you and I agree. Binge watching your videos now. Great channel.
@@GYMGUYFE thank you very much I appreciate that!
I have the same Diesel Rubicon Gladiator, but I'm getting 21-22 mpg with the factory wheels. I feel like I should be getting higher mpg.
That does seem a bit low but it all depends on your driving habits and terrain. The family and I just drove to Colorado with the Gladiator filled to the brim with all of our camping gear. Averaged 23 mpg for the trip.
I wonder if lifetime cost for the 3.6 v6 is the same as the diesel. Considering the cost to maintain and own a diesel and the gas is atleast $1 more a gallon compared to regular gas. 🤔
In the end I think it will be a wash. I have the 3.6 in my JKU and it has had its fair share of issues. So far, I’ve had no issues with the diesel and I love the extra torque!
Does anyone know where I can purchase a full "DELETE" kit for the diesel?
No idea on that one 🤷♂️
With a diesel if the shtf you can make your own fuel. Save your used oil and add gas (4/1). Or use old cooking oil and add alcohol and antifreeze. (5/1/.5).
Worst case scenario. Hopefully never comes to that.
Hey man, any chance for another update on it? There are some stellar deals on JTs and im hoping to find more good long term reviews on the 3.0 opposed to all the horror stories on them
I actually just rolled over the two year and 44k mile mark on mine and still have not had any issues. I may do another update video soon.
@@TrailExpedition thanks for the reply man. Been going down a worm hole watching all the eco JT stuff and it’s been nice to see someone local use their Jeep for more then just mud puddles n power line trails
@stevenrabish6929 haha! I definitely try to push the limits with my JT. I sometimes do trails that truck has no business being on 😆
I am ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY STUND !!!! all my years in the jeep community & somehow i never heard of KBD !!!!! Definitely will own a set or two !!!! THANK YOU
It would be nice for some product links in your description area fyi
Hey there, I’ve been working on product links in some of my newer videos. I do have an install video for the KBD fenders on my channel as well. Easy install and best fenders for the price.
Appreciate that fast response !!! I actually watched that video right after this one lol. Glad I find your down to earth channel , instantly subscribe ... thanks
Thanks very much! I put a lot of work into it to make it the best I can.
I've been agonizing over whether a Gladiator is right for me. I want something that could occasionally tow a 3-4k lb camper, be fun to drive as a daily, not take up too much room in my driveway, and ideally fit in the garage. I also have a place in the mountains near tons of gravel roads, which would be fun to explore. It seems there are many Jeep haters that will recommend you make a different choice, or to get a full size if you want to tow. For my wants the Gladiator or the new 2024 Tacoma seem to be the best fit. I test drove a full size RAM and Sierra and couldn't imagine driving those as my daily, let alone on narrow gravel roads.
For everything you described I think the Gladiator would be a perfect fit! My boat is in that 3-4 thousand pound range and the JT has no problems pulling it. Granted, I don’t pull it very far. I pulled my overland trailer ten hours to West Virginia and back with no issues. That is quite a bit lighter though at 2K pounds.
Thanks for the reply!
@RideMoreNow you’re welcome! I’m almost at 50k miles on my Gladiator and I still love it!
Great vid! Thank you! Been hearing a lot about the lack of reliability of these motors mainly due to the overly restrictive emissions tech on this motor. Or there are just some bad lemons out there. It's made me think twice but this gives me hope. Sorry but I have to ask....what type of shoes are those? Look like some gnarly hiking boots. Lol! Sorry! Just caught my eye.
The diesel has still been great for me and just getting ready to roll over 25k as we embark on my daughter’s spring break trip down south. I would choose it again if I was buying another one. Oh, and the boots are North Face. Picked them up at an REI a couple years back.
@@TrailExpedition :) thank you sir! I appreciate it! Cheers!
No problem! Happy Jeepin!
@@TrailExpedition I hope you're able to do a an even 'long(er) term' review on your diesel. All the best to you and yours!
Maybe at the two year or 50k mile mark!
We need to see some damages on your gladiator. At a minimum pin striping please.
Apparently you haven’t watched the video of the first time I had the Gladiator off-road 😆
Did you weigh before and after? The load rating is pretty derated in my opinion. The only significant weight I’ve added to my ‘22 diesel gladiator is the warm winch plate and the 12k badlands winch. I regularly haul 120 gallons of water(120 x 8.5lbs + my 175lbs) and I’m well over the sticker capacity……it doesn’t care and looking from the side, you wouldn’t really notice any meaningful squat with the water tank in the back
I haven’t weighed my truck as it sits but I would like to at some point. My heaviest add ons are definitely the metal cloak skid plates. Followed probably by the JCR rock sliders, winch/plate, 37” Falken Wildpeaks, RCI half rack, the roof top tent is pushing 150-200# as well but I don’t keep that on all the time. I’ve added quite a bit of weight but the diesel simply does not care. That’s why I got it.
I didn't weigh mine either, but I've only got the winch bits and I've got a decent idea of what those bits cost. I think the Rubicon is really down rated on the sticker for capacity. Anyone have the sticker capacity for the 3.6?
I know they rate the Rubicon less because it technically is heavier from the factory with the extra skids/etc. the diesel pushes it down the road without issue. The 3.6, which I have in my JKU, is a dog 😆
Makes you wonder what that number really means….probably some derived number, calculated in a vacuum, liability margin………
For sure! Just like the diesel isn’t rated to tow as much as the 3.6 max tow package. I’d much rather tow with a diesel engine. Way more torque and pulling power.
I own a 2.2 (4 cilinder) eco diesel JLUR here in the Netherlands, but thinking about a gladiator overland eco diesel 3.0 (6 cilinder). Greetings from the Netherlands
Nice! Diesel Gladiator is definitely the way to go. Especially for an overland rig. And hello from the US! 👋
@@TrailExpedition The price is here € 66.500 euro is approximately $ 70.000. These are the last ones, because the delivery will stop for Europe……..
Aww that stinks. You think you’ll get one?
@@TrailExpedition I hope so, the JLUR I bought in 2019 was $ 110.000! We have special tax on cars that aren’t good for the environment, we pay 40% extra tax (called BPM) over the sales price……. 🤪👎
Wow! Now that’s just ridiculous! I have a 2015 JKU as well which is the gas engine. That one is more of my trail toy.
I get 13-14 mph in town with my 23 Mohave and 18 highway 😊
Yeah, I would say that’s about average for the gas model. Diesel numbers will always be higher. We just got done driving from Michigan to South Carolina and back all while averaging 24 MPG.
@@TrailExpedition there is a used 2023 Rubicon Diesel with only 2300 miles on it that retailed for 74500, that I can buy for 58, 600 i am thinking about doing it.
I would jump on that! Sounds like a deal!
Great video, would love to buy a gladiator diesel. Greetings from the Netherlands
Hey there! Thanks for watching! Awesome to see this video making it all the way out there. Let me know if you have any other questions on the platform.
sure thing shirley for sure
The diesel has a lower rating because of cooling. Otherwise it would probably have a better rating.
Cooling and the Rubicon equipped with the diesel is heavier than a sport with the 3.6. The extra weight contributes to the lower towing capacity.
@@TrailExpedition While heavier, yes... but the sport with the 3.6 (With max towing group) has additional cooling and "aerodynamics" for it.. plus 4.10 gears and stuff.. The Rubicon actually has less towing capacity (6000) than the lower tiers (6500) in towing for the diesel because of things like the Swaybar disconnect/lockers. (Should be like... Page 210-212 in your owners manual... At least according to the online version) However the Rubicon Diesel matches the 3.6L (non-max tow sport) at the 6k mark.
It's been discussed a few times in forums that it's basically a limitation on cooling, because Jeep can't get enough cooling in when pumping the power through... (Someone in some after-market area will make something to help with this....but to my knowledge it doesn't exist....yet.)
sure thing shirley for sure
I was told 5k miles for DEF per tank. So it's on par.. (And that's about what I get.)
That sounds more correct. Somewhere along the way I heard 10K. I’m sure it all comes down to driving style.
@@TrailExpedition 10k is oil change intervals.. maybe that's where the mix-up happened.
But yeah... 5k is what I got out of mine since I got it.. and unlike what you said your style is.... I'm somewhat of a....lead-foot when it comes to take-offs. Lol.
But drove to and from Orlando/Daytona during Jeep Beach with mine.. (18 hrs straight driving only stopping for bathroom/fuel/food) and never had an issue with DEF or derating or anything.
@@trailtothevoid that’s awesome to hear! How was Jeep beach? I’d like to go one of these days.
@@TrailExpedition unfortunately... I found out the main festivities were a few days later... so early as always..yet..still was a cool experience. (Was down for my sister's last "worlds" cheer comp... plus went to Disney)
I'm gonna try to get down there again this next year just for it.. but doubt it'll happen unless I get an invite. Lol. (I did do a video)
Right on. Yeah my goal is to get outside of Michigan more as we’ve covered everything around here already. Want to get out west.
The diesel gets better mpg so the extra cost of diesel vs gas is negligible
Agreed. And the price of diesel has come down quite a bit in the last few months. Last I checked it was only 20 cents more expensive than regular fuel.
@Trail Expedition yeah I've got a 2021 ecodiesel sport s JT and i average 21 mpg around town
Nice. I’m 24 combined. I do a lot of highway driving.
21 Mojave, front Fox shocks being replaced under warranty, creaking sound. Very disappointed, Chinese made on back order. Fox shocks require maintenance depending on usage.
I do find that when my JT is loaded down with camping gear I tend to bottom out the shock a lot more on washout/bumpy roads. You having that issue?
@@TrailExpedition negative, this occurs during low speed driving through a parking lot. My 2010 Wrangler has a nice tight suspension after all these years!
Right on!
@@TrailExpedition $3200 each side, Canadian funds plus labour, dealership indicated. I was in disbelief
Holy crap! Thank God for warranties!
Sounds like they are discontinuing the Diesel in 2024 model
I heard through the grapevine that it’s gonna happen. They may become sought after in a decade or two.
@Trail Expedition currently I'm a tacoma owner but after driving one of these I'll be taking the plunge next year. I hate the seating position in the Tacoma and the back seat has less room then a gladiator
I heard the seating in Tacomas is rather odd. I’ve never sat in one myself. They look like solid trucks..I’ve always just been a Jeep guy.
@@TrailExpedition I had a Tacoma before my Gladiator(s) and I hated the low seating position. Gladiator seating is much more comfortable from a height/leg angle perspective. The other biggest drawback for me on the Taco was the acceleration of the atkinson-cycle V6. It was terrible trying to get up to speed on the highway, even when trying to use that silly "sport" button for a little extra power. Both my gas V6 Gladiator (my first one) and now my diesel Gladiator (2nd one) have much better acceleration. I don't need speed from a truck, but acceleration is important to me.
I have heard of that same complaint from a few Taco owners about the seats. I know my Diesel Gladiator is way quicker than my 3.6 JKU. Like you, I don’t need to go fast but it’s nice to have passing power in traffic.
Watch were you purchasing fuel and DEF.
As a commercial drive, I find that the clearer the fuel is the better it burns.
I stay away from the large chain of truck stops called pilots.
Good to know! You’re definitely more of an expert in that department.
For 80k for one of these new, you can find an old jk, get a 4bt diesel for like 4k and do a swap and still save 40k. No Def either. Not worth the money, I've owned 3 jeeps over the years. And a diesel swap is the cheapest to do.
Good to know! I actually paid under sticker for my JTRD and just over 60k. I feel like I got a good deal. I would never pay anything close to 80k. That’s 392 territory. I don’t ever plan on getting rid of either of my Jeeps so I’m sure ten years or so from now the DEF system will be deleted.
@Trail Expedition the new 2023 diesel jeep is 74k, with tax etc it's about 80k. You can find a ls2 for 4-9k complete and swap out a jk for less than 15k. All in. Get a Montana llc register it to that and never worry about smog again. 11 years or older and it's a lifetime registration for 130$ one time fee. I've always found ways to have my diesels the way I want.
The price of new vehicles is getting downright ridiculous! It looks like you have found a nice workaround. I’ve heard rumors the diesel Jeeps are being discontinued in a year or two. Have you heard anything about this?
@Trail Expedition I have not, I always wanted a diesel jeep, but with the Def garbage and torque limiter etc it wasn't worth it to even tune or delete it. My 4bt produces far more torque than that thing can. At only about 180hp but can pump out a little over 540 torque. It's a little monster and the it's way more fuel efficient
This is my first diesel vehicle and I absolutely love the extra torque. I’ve got the 3.6 gas engine in my JKU and it’s gutless. Didn’t want that in my Gladiator.
Def! Register it as "farm" equipment and delete it. You'll get much better mileage and more horse power. And the tag is cheaper too.
Haha! I’ll definitely keep that one in mind! It will happen one day.
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