Game Theory: PROVING Mass Effect's Indoctrination Theory! | Mass Effect 3
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The end of MASS EFFECT 3 constitutes what is perhaps the worst ending to a video game trilogy in history. OR DOES IT? The Mass Effect games cover intergalactic travel, dozens of alien species, and a synthetic race of world-ending machines. The only way Mass Effect 3’s ending can possibly fit with the series overall is if IT IS A LIE! However, this begs an important question: What exactly is this game’s deceit and what does it mean for Shepard and The Reapers? In this episode, I reveal the Truth behind what is actually going on in Mass Effect 3!
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ALENIME04 Play's how and why
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You meant to say is "The Cake is a lie."?
Haha!
(great reference, I love you for that!)
The year is 2020. It has almost been 3 years since this video was uploaded, and there is STILL NO PART 2 wrapping this theory up to an end.
Please Matpat, please give us Part 2 finally!!! Even if you dropped the theory because you couldn't get it to a satisfying conclusion, just give us what you had! PLEASE!!!!
Valve can't count to 3 but apperently matpat can't even count to 2
Hello
It's a joke now so he'll probably not
@@coldfusionstormgaming1808 valve just doesn't like the number 3, thus why they made Half Life Alyx instead of Half Life 3
Never gonna happen. But rejoice! MatPat has now released his 36TH FNAF video for your viewing pleasure! Seriously, this channel has just become the Matt and Scott show at this point.
"Dear journal it's Feburary 2020 and no part two has came out".
"I feel as if MatPat has been indoctrinated, all hope is lost"
Mattpat, it's 2021. Mass Effect Legendary Edition has just released. Now is the time to drop part 2 on us like it's as hot as something that steams in Cleveland!
He's not dropping it because BioWare themselves disproved this theory lol
@@ty738 he’s not dropping it because he got major hate for this video at the time, not because it was disproven (at the time of the videos making). It was years too late when discourse had already come and gone on top of other people already making far lengthier and better videos.
@@Craftato Yes, but I'm just saying, BioWare already disproved it, so any chance whatsoever of this theory being picked up again is out the window.
MatPat, indoctrinated by the reapers so that his theory can no longer be completed and prove them real. Just a theory...A uh CONSPIRACY THEORY!! Thanks for reading!
Never thought I'd see a cleveland steamer joke on here
"Two-parters can sometimes be frustrating"
ONLY IF YOU DON'T MAKE THE SECOND PART!!
seriously. almost 3 years now.i dint mind 2 part videos..if there is actually 2 parts. this is more like sonic 06, an unfinished disappointment
He probably realized this whole thing is bullshit and relies entirely on some idealist death of the author humbug, except the creators are alive and well and confirmed multiple times that the ending is meant to be taken at face value. There is no hidden meaning, the ending is just simply bad. Deal with it and leave it well enough alone.
@@andor888 That's not true at all, lol
@@Freelancer837 If you say so.
@@andor888 Well it's the truth
“I don’t know why people don’t like 2 parters. It’ll only take a week for the next video to come out”
>proceeds to not release part 2
This is *exactly* why.
Maybe he will pull a Doctor Who part 3 on this one.
especially now
r/agedlikemilk
“Ah yes, part two, we have dismissed that claim”
Ivan Webster nice
why citadel WHY?!
Depends on the species, _Turian_
Not all sequels are bad, Matpat.
Please make a part 2
You think he'd know that given how good ME2 is.
ME1 good.
ME2 GREAT!
Proven true.
You are the new justin y
Dude I see you commenting on everything how
Dude this ain't anime, you're coming into everything I like now
The Reapers will ACTUALLY make it to our system before we see part 2.
Jacob Curley and wipe us of the face of this solar system like the protheans
Joseph Stacy
And watch the fight of Goku vs Frieza
The reapers have already rolled out, it’s too late now 🤣
Was there ever a part two?
rlee1185 nope
It is 27th March 2019. I want a part two. please.
Its April now
Part 2 plz
We've been waiting for years mat pat
It's about to be May in 4 days
2nd may now. We need to spam his newer videos
He does a MILLION FNAF theories but can’t finish this one.
Ikr. Irks me beyond words honestly.
Still waiting for part two.
Lore Star!
I just found this video and am profoundly sad there is no part 2.
Same here Blade
Same here
@@collinruined4048 Me three!
Me too
I’m joining this club too lmao. It’s even sadder that you made this comment 2 years ago
*IT IS JUNE.*
*2018.*
*WHERE IS PART TWO, MATPAT. WHERE.*
The writing of this episode was probably outsourced to a third party, like many episodes on the channel are. Maybe something fell though and and the second part was unable to be produced.
Agreed, am still wating for part two as well. What is going on or are we more likely to get Mass Effect 5 before we get part 2?
AWOL ODST assume we are never getting it.
AWOL ODST I think we’re more likely to get half life 3 first
Honestly? They could have squeezed in the ending by saying destroying the reapers ends the indoctrination and Shepard is alive. I’ll explain below.
I watched AngryJoeShow talk about this theory but it’s an old 2012 video and he got to the point and said that everything was a hallucination (courtesy of the reapers) Shepard shooting Anderson was actually Shepard getting shot bc when Shep is sitting with Anderson, Shep is bleeding in the same spot where “Shepard” shot Anderson. Shep chooses destroy and the reapers are destroyed but Shep wouldn’t have survived the blow so why is that little clip of Shep (obviously being Shep) waking up in rubble even a thing? Well Shep was on Earth the whole time and not the citadel.
But the only confusion here is how did Shepard destroy the reapers if Shep was only hallucinating all of it? Obviously nothing was solved if it was all in Sheps head. Joe even talked about it even said that Shep was covered in rubble and that the citadel shouldn’t be made of rubble like an earth building would but of special tech (I think is what he said). So my guess is that Shepard is just really, really lucky and survived that kind of blow, because it’s just SO CLEARLY OBVIOUS that that was Shepard waking up in the rubble. And considering Shep was brought up in Andromeda, it has to be the clear answer. Sorry this is super long. This theory is driving me crazy because of how accurate it is. Even the reapers are creeping me out.
The Reapers got to him, stopping us from knowing their weakness, he's Indoctrinated
This theory existed because they allowed it, and it ended because they demanded it.
@@TheHulk1850 Fk the Reaper's man.. Taking everything, including my gamr theories!!
Considering Mass Effect Legendary Edition is out and four years have passed since you released this video, would you please "pick up where you left off" as it were and make the second part please?
Indoctrination theory was proven false by BioWare in February.
@@QUICKSCOPEGUY just wondering if you remember where you read/heard that.
@@Craftato There is an article on Forbes where Bioware reps straight up say that the indoctrination theory is something entirely made up by fans. To quote the interview, "Go ahead, make mods and write fanfics about it, whatever floats your boat, but that was not the original intention or what we wrote"
Why? Even the devs have debunked indoctrination theory.
How to Watch MatPat's Two-Parters:
1) Watch Part 1.
2) Find out at the end of the video that it's a two-parter.
3) Wait a week or two.
4) Check the uploads to see if Part 2 is out yet.
5) Be disappointed that it's not out.
6) Wait another week while frequently checking the uploads.
7) Be disappointed that it's still not out.
8) Go to Part 1's comment section and empathyze with all the complaints of Part 2 not being out yet.
9) Forget about Part 2 for a while.
10) Find Part 2 some time later while randomly browsing CZcams.
11) Watch Part 2.
Dillon Bedard basically lol
Nailed it.
currently repeating step 8, 9, and 9.5) getting irritated that part 2 is still not out.
step 8 achieved...
proceeding to step 9...
>anticipating any video from matpat
pffffff
Where the hell is part 2?
Lazarus Kulig-Green exactly
I came here weeks later for Part 2 to realise it's not here yet, if at all.
Yep i only subscribed so i could know when part 2 comes out, pretty sure ill unsub again after it does. Could have at least said in the title this is only part 1.
Mehariel then leave
It's gonna be CZcams RED. #sellout
BRO RETIRED AND NEVER GAVE UP PART 2💀💀💀
tru
Submission for the Codex: it has now been 5 years since Matpat released his theory on indoctrination, still awaiting part 2 of his theory, I fear that day may never come to pass.
It seems MatPat himself may have been indoctrinated to be silenced.
Might cuddle up next to Javik in a freezer till the next one does come out.
Yeah... now we're definitely not getting it now 😢
Kinf od sad part 2 never came out. This was incredible and really blew my mind
Plenty of good Indoctrination Theory videos out there. Here is a multi hour long one: czcams.com/video/fEj5FsBXFuM/video.html
Captian Morgan Doctor who part three all over again
the Beings of Light theory stuff is worth your time too, if you're still interested. This one has two parts: czcams.com/video/IUcHf-mCR4w/video.html
There were an excellent video on youtube explaining the Illusive Man and Catalyst dialogues in the end but years later I cant find it anymore
Yeah. Now it's been over a year. Would love to hear the last part of this theory
Coincidence? I think not.
Mystery? Maybe.
Hotel? Trivago
HA! your Spanish jokes have no effect here!
good one
Melik Aydin Great one
Melik Aydin even here? really?
I have to admit I laughed harder than I should have at 4:00 AM
MatPat really RETIRED before giving us a part 2 to this 😂
"Dont get mad at me if it doesn't show up next week" 3 years later: hmmm where's the vid
*people waiting 8 months for second part of the Mass Effect video*
Meanwhile on the channel
- 1574th FNAF video released.
- Lootboxes are gambling.
- Can Logan Paul win against KSI?
Seriously MatPat?
C'mon man...
Celwenil Eran
Well, it has been two months since a third part of the "Final" FNAF theory was promised.
Its not matpat fault most of his fans would only request fnaf and the games are released bery close together
Celwenil Eran I doubt Logan Paul could beat KSI (Killing Services incorporated)
he cant really make that theroy,cus devs called bs on it XD
@@thenukedgamer65 you really think devs wouldn't call a theory bs just so people would stop spreading it so a later advancement in a story continuing from where me3 left off would be, at least for some people be a big twist? As in, trying to keep something a secret for the benefit of the story.
Like, come on. Of course they would.
MatPat, you HAVE to start putting "(part 1)" in your video titles. It feels so bad when you think it's a one-timer, and then it suddenly turns out to be a two-parter
Mathias Seljebotn Erdal agreed
This happens like everytime
If you all dont want to wait clevernoob has posted a video on the indoctrination theory some years ago. It was when I watched it the first time bonechilling. Seriously forget goosebums. My neck straight up froze and my balls looked like two koosh balls!
The original theroy was awsome. and was all ready proven. Matpat is basicly stealing it and regurgitatiing XD
Except it wasn't proven, the developers said it's wrong.
It is May 26, 2020. Still no part two in sight. Ran out of food and water days ago. I have almost lost all sense of time. Mat and Steph did a Reddit meme review on GT Live, reacting to comments about the abundance of FNAF content with excuses about game releases being pushed back and having no new subject matter. Yet here we wait, patiently, hope slowly dwindling to despair. Have we been forgotten? Abandoned? Left to rot forever wondering what the conclusion may be? Will our wait be in vain? Will we ever be fulfilled? What has become of the world? Hopefully some giving soul will make a meme about how this has been neglected to call up the dredges of their memories of this theory to mind, then finally we may find answers.
Priceless 😂😂
😭😭😭😭
Guys it's 2020, the Reapers are definitely in close enough range to indoctrinate him into not telling us how mass effect was a lie, because they don't want us also knowing the outcome
Someone convince Matpat that FNAF is linked to this theory, that way he will upload 4 videos of it in a single day.
I'm at 1:26 and you say there is no final boss?!?! This is an outrage!
Marauder Shields tried to protect us from the atrocity of that ending!
R.I.P Marauder Shields. F
Marauder Shield. So iconic to Mass Effect, there is a webcomic based on him. A very good comic.
Google koobismo
Marauder Shields's death will not be in vein. The reapers will destroy this entire wretched galaxy and consume all Pathetic Turians to create a new Reaper in honor of Marauder.
varnect203 A heavily mutated Illusive Man was originally planned to be the final boss, but that was scrapped as he was considered to be more of an intellectual foe than a physical one (think Joker at the end of Arkham Asylum).
He will forever be the hero we needed but didn't deserve rip
Lived as Marauder Shields, died as Marauder Health :(
We will have The Legendary Edition, and Still nothing about Part 2....
MatPat... We haven't forgotten.. We will never forget.
But seriously man, this was just like watching an good anime that got cancelled right in the middle.
well, maybe he didn't make part two because this theory doesn't make sense.
Mr dragonborn Elder scrolls fan actually I think matpat used to much proof in this part so the second part was gonna be short
I can relate to this
Because I just finished watching Seraph of the End
I feel so cheated
@@asianpewdiepie6320 Maybe if this video was made in Spring 2012 it would be considered well-written, but this video was made in 2017, 5 years after the Extended Cut was released, and yet he refuses to aknowledge it at all and uses dated pre-patch clips out of context. No wonder part 2 is never coming.
Sometimes I come back here just to read comments like "where is part 2".
8 months later...still no part 2.
ACAVYOS has a compilation that's pretty wicked and came out the same year 3 was released. If you want to see a full theory and not just a part one.
OinkyThePiggy Oh I've seen it. I actually don't care whether Matt does part 2 or not, I just like reminding him that he hasn't.
Tremorego lol, okay. Just sharing for anyone who hasn't seen it. :)
Yeah, no part 2 till now! July 2018
Ahmed Hamdy its been 84 years...
The year is 2024, Matpat has retired. There will never be a part 2
So now that Mass Effect Legendary Edition is out. Can we please have part 2 now that it is relevant again.
For real. I figured if there was ever a chance to return to this theory it would be now.
When you're still waiting....
CamPain ACAVYOS has a compilation that's pretty wicked and came out the same year 3 was released. If you want to see a full theory and not just a part one.
OinkyThePiggy still here
Same though...
M888888888 upd8?
Considering how long we've waited for Doctor Who part 3, don't get your hopes up.
*MATPAT. IT'S JANUARY 2019 WHAT ARE YOU DOING*
It's the new Doctor Who pt 3
AdamFord 152 yeahhhhhh
It is now, December
Its now January 2020
It's now March 2020.
"These two parters can be frustrating" .... Yep.
The remaster is on it's way MatPat. This is the perfect time to drop PART TWO
WHEN IS PART 2 COME OUT?!
Space Potato what?!
There was a final boss. His name was Marauder Shields!
Nytemare2all NEVER FORGET MARAUDER SHIELDS
R.I.P Marauder Shields! Dead trying to save us from the ending!
He trained all his life to stop you, chased you across the galaxy.. He was there, on palaven, on tuchanka, on rannoch, on thessia... But even he had to fall.
R.I.P. in peace Marauder Shields. Never forgetti.
best character in the series imo, what a hero
Our fallen hero, if only he warned us sooner...
2019 is coming to an end....Matt Patt....finish the theory. You're our only hope....
Also feel free to do a ME:A theory after
Mass Effect Andromeda was so shite, though. The story was dry and predictable, the character models were good, but the character movement was dry and stale.
Azure Shin Andromeda was so awful and stupid that MatPat didn't even try to put any theory about Ryder name origin!
@@ricardohoang8452 lol it was the first mass effect i played XD
Azure, check out the original Indoctrination Theory by clevernoob. It’s much more detailed and in depth than this.
Moment
2020 is calling, they want their theory.
2021 is calling now
2022😭
2023 :/
what do you mean no final boss i believe you have forgotten marauder shields.
to be fair, the elusive man was a pretty good bossfight fitting a series of dialogue heavy games.
UnicornStorm Vv.
Don't forget his loyal friends, the Three Husketeers
Rpggamingphilip John never forget marauder shields
Marauder Shields -- a true Hero.
Actually, there are 4 endings. You can shoot the kid and get the ending where everyone dies
I think that was more of troll the game Devs put into to screw with players
Some people of the Indoc Theory believe its the only choice, remember too, the Indoc Theory was before the extended cut, and that was only available in the extended cut.
It's also interesting that if you shoot the kid, he'll reply to this with Harbinger's voice, and I guess it could mean that it was Harbinger, the very first reaper, to be indoctrinating Shepard after his success in destroying Collectors and ruining reapers' plans in Arrival DLC.
Aaron Forbes It was patched in.
Chad Stone
There's 4 endings?
So you missed the most important piece from the theory:
Let's talk about the three endings, but we can boil it down really to two
1) The reapers die
2) The reapers live
When you kill the reapers, they make it seem like the worst possible scenario because you destroy all the technology all the geth, but if you control or synthesize the reapers live and everything looks perfect.
now in the two instances where you let the reapers live, if you look at shepherd's eyes you actually see indoctrination in his eyes, but whereas when you destroy the reapers you actually see his resolve strengthen, I don't remember if you hear the reaper rejection sound or not but his eyes never turn indoctrination color. And the arguably most important piece, where you kill the reapers that is the only instance where you actually see Shepherd wake up on Earth as if it was a dream and he still has to actually finish the fight
That's cybernetics, not indoctrination.
The geth actually fused with the quarian suits so there immune system be stronger so technically non canon speaking most geth are not dead but who knows lol
With Legendary Edition released, maybe time for a 'remaster' of this theory
Its August 4 2019, we'll wait as long as we need to but we won't let you forget either.
Just letting you know, it's November 1st 2019, if you weren't aware of still no part 2.
January 14 2020
January 17, 2020
2/20/2020
3/07/20
Sounds like shepherd needs some..... Calibrations
Kobe Smith lol u a real 1
So with legendary edition coming out in May can we get that part 2 yet?
It would be perfect timing. Hope he does
its nearly 2023, as i write this its December 21st 2022, MatPat has sold game theory, there is still no part 2.
"The End is a LIE!"
Saying there will be a part 2 is the actual lie...
=P
Cyclone718 the part 2 is (kina) andromeda
He didn't say anything about a second part.... Wait, are you experiencing headaches?
We've been indoctrinated into beliving in part 2.
Well what if "the end" is not only the end of the game but also the end of the game theory. That both endings are a lie - so there is no part Two.
I guess you just bailed on making a part 2 to this?
The theory was proven false by the creators
Luke Millner
Where? What is the evidence?
Are you kidding me? Why would the creators deny that theory? If the end isn't a battle against indoctrination, then it's poorly written gibberish. And all of the evidence in support of indoctrination is there.
In any case, it never matters what creators think their story is about. What matters is the meaning the story's consumers derive from it. If we want to believe the story is about indoctrination, and we can support that with what's in the story, then we're right.
If the ending is about indoc, then the trilogy is a 15/10 masterpiece.
If it's not, then the trilogy is a 6/10 hackjob.
Actually, as far as I was aware, the creators were purposefully not confirming or denying this theory simply leaving it up to the fans to decide which version they preferred.
I wonder if he'll make a second part this year because of the Legendary Edition release.
Im back from watching the teaser trailer to the continuation of Mass Effect. There is only one ending this could of taken... The destroy ending. There is only one way Shep survived... He was fighting indoctrination. Come ooooonnnn Part 2!
also the weapon wasnt called the catalyst, it was called the crucible. The child A.I thing was the catalyst
Jay Reezy FROSH!!!
I thought the catalyst was the thing in the first game that sent you to the citadel.
God damn, what is *C*asey Hudson's obsession with C's?
Wait, no, the citadel is the catalyst right? It's been a while since I played me3, but I'm pretty sure it is. The catalyst was the missing crucible piece which then turned out to be the citadel.
AceArchangel try the Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod :)
Either way they were giant macguffins that made war assets and all of your choices pointless.
I think matpat was indoctrinated by the reapers, and they made him not make part 2.
Here we are, December 29th, 2019, with no part two 🥺😔
The year is 2374.
A youth boots up a strange archaic machine. As it turns out, a page was left open. Something called... CZcams is currently being displayed. The youth glances nervously out the window, making sure no bots are nearby. The youth can't afford to be apprehended by them again. The youth decides to watch the video.
Images flash across the screen. Images detailing an entertainment simulation called Mass Effect. A voice comes on and begins to narrate a theory about the story of Mass Effect. At first the voice is mildly irritating, but in time the youth comes to find it endearing. The youth watches the video, enjoying what they are seeing. After 19 minutes and 54 seconds, the video comes to a close. The youth browses through other videos on the channel that provided the one they just finished watching.
Confusion sets in, followed by frustration, and then anger. Where is part 2? The youth wonders. The low battery icon flashes, but still the youth searches. The sounds of laser fire echo outside the building. The bots have found the youth. Yet still, the youth searches. Where is part 2? A moment later, the screen goes dark. The battery is dead. The youth leaps to their feet, yelling at the machine. Where is part 2? The door is blown off its hinges, signaling that the bots have arrived. The youth takes no notice however, continuing to accost the machine. Where is part 2? The bots grab the youth, hauling the screaming child away. Over and over, the youth cries.
Where is part 2?
Where is part 2?
Where is part 2...
😂😂😂😂
Hey Mat Pat it's been 1 month and I've beaten the game 7 times, WHERE'S PART II(2)
Pranks for Nothing now it's been 6 months........
._.
There was a final boss. Marauder Shields. Never forget.
That was the hardest part of my insanity playthrough of the ME trilogy. Not even joking
His name was Marauder Shields
What comes after Marauder Shields? Marauder Health
Praise Marauder Shields, the last true hero of Mass Effect.
Yo, MC PAX, watch this to illustrate. /watch?v=467pmIX-oZo
His name is Marauder Shields.
ShakalakaKing He died protecting us from the ending.
The true ending is that Shepard died to the hero, Marauder Shields. And everyone lived happily ever after because your galaxy preparedness actually mattered and the coalition of organics and synthetics defeat the reapers together.
It's fricking December 2019, surly part two has to be at least close to done now, right?
The Part 2 will never come out, and only now is it truly over.
Could you do a theory on the governmental and national status in the world of plants vs. zombies.
That's actually a really great idea. I want to know what kind of crazy stuff happened to get us to the point where we're forced to use plants as weapons to fight off a horde of the undead. Kind of doubt there's enough in the games to really explain it all, though, without quite a bit of guessing and conjecture.
That would be hard... Do you mean just the modern society shown in the original game or the past and future as well shown in other games? In plants vs zombies garden warfare 2 there is a map on another planet so would that count as the status of the government universally?
vult boiy YAAAAAAAAAAS
YES!!!
A PLANTS V ZOMBIES THEORY!!(btw, no, no I am not an idiot or small child....)
Pieguy55 don't call small children idiots
So do I buy green, red or blue razor?
blue it's a great color
Blue
You say "I don't want to choose" to the guy and let everyone die!
Blue? and you're sure that one doesn't turn me one with the razor?
hm.....
"dont get mad at me if it does not appear next week" he says
and its been 3 year.
At this rate we're getting a mass effect 4 before a part 2
hi there, checking in again after months, where's part 2???? T_T
Average Joe Bro
We should be used to this by now. He makes it a multi part thing, forgets about it, and makes jokes about it in an attempt to be funny but just remind us of it and grate our nerves
Weren't you paying attention? "The ending is a lie." ... But for real, yeah. Agreed.
5 months matpat! 5 freaking months!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lilly A Ihope you don't like ONEY cartoons, because HELLBENDERS HASNT GONE ANYWHERE
10 Months now
YOU KNOW THE PART2 IS LIE???
Am I crazy or there has not been a part 2? Have I been indoctrinated? Should I ask the giant flying monkey in my room?
I finally check out this theory only to learn, after all these years, it still doesn't have a part 2...
Can we get part 2!?? I've waited years!
"the end is a lie" and 7 months later, your promise of a part two was a lie. how ironic!
BioWare officially said that indoctrination theory isn't correct.
Justas Gečas doesn't matter. It's still an awesome theory.
ACAVYOS has a compilation that's pretty wicked and came out the same year 3 was released. If you want to see a full theory and not just a part one.
The "indoctrination theory" just proves that the fans take the lore more seriously than the the developers do.
/.ᴊayne AND REMEMBER ITS JUST A CLICKBAIT!!
MatPat, can you please figure out the lore of Wii Sports Resort?
Miis take a vacation to Wuhu island and play a bunch of games.
But Hey, That's just a Theory
A GAME THEORY
YoU'Re NOt LoOkING DEeP ENoUGh
Why is it never night? Who are all the NPCs? Who's the pilot of the plane when you go skydiving?
SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
They are survivors of a zombie attaxk and now they are force to live on an island with a active volcano, their overlords came with a "brilliant idea" and forced everyone to a type of sport or die, your character can do all of them so you are forced to every sport and when ever you get off, your character respawns, and when you get back on that means your have been revived to do your work
-random person on the internet
That makes the whole thing even more mysterious!
OPeN yOUR EyES pEOPlE
My name is Blosible Wolf and this is my favorite part 1 on the citadel, can’t wait for part 2
Please, part two. I've been waiting for years. The launch of the legendary edition is a great opportunity.
Almost been a year now, bucko. Any chance we can get that sneaky dose of part 2 about now?
and im surprised he didn't bring this up, but on the infrasound scale the below 20 ones are the color yellow. sour yellow notes. surprised he didn't point that out, as it just ads further proof.
im not a mass effect fan so I cant give my own opinion on wether hes right or wrong, but its still interesting to hear
Yousif Osama yup. I have so many Nobel Peace Prizes I use em as coasters.
The yellow maybe depends on what you're using though. It's not actually visually yellow, just yellow is a proxy colour chosen so you can distinguish between them. It's a key to the scale.
***** why? They made garbage, and the fans saved it. Even if it wasn't intentional, why would they deny it?
Probably due to something called "honesty". A shitty notion, really, they should have just lied.
4 years later, I'm playing through legendary edition and wondering where part 2 of this video is
Bro RETIRED and never gave this a part 2 I'm sick
Where's part two Matt?
Do a theory about why matpat makes a really interesting video, cuts it into two parts, than releases the second part like 3 years later. Also make that video a 2 parter.
Killer Product 69th like
Try like. 5 years.
Sorry, 3 years later and it still hasn't been released
@@junkercitizen229 now four
We need a part two!!! I just started watching this channel and the number of part ones without the next parts are crazy, but please this one is needed!
The legendary edition is out now. Is it time to actually finish this video with a Part 2?
Guess not
Did anyone else notice that the rachni queen said "sour YELLOW noise" and when he showed us the spectral analysis that the part he was showing us was YELLOW?
Will Dirks woah
Will Dirks u just blew my mind
Let us take a moment to honor Marauder Shields's sacrifice. He died trying to save us from the ending
Aww man, I can't believe I forgot about Marauder Shield. Pour one put for that guy.
Most Glorious Final Boss Marauder Shields, may your shields keep you safe in reaper/indoctrinated/turian/ shield heaven/hell/nothingness.
10th paragraph. Last Line. You're welcome.
www.fanfiction.net/s/8598624/1/Mass-Effect-3-Advent-of-the-Lost
Everyone always forgets he died as Marauder Health.
+Badmunky64 IN THE ARMS OF THE ANGEL! FLY AWAY!
Mat Pat is retiring. We'll never get a part 2. RIP
I think we can rest assured this second part isn't coming. It's March 6th, 2020, and the lack of a second part hasn't even been acknowledged.
>proving
>PROVING
>says that the theories are for fun and shouldn't be taken seriously
pick one
7「STAND」 DAD 3
He's just using hyperbole.
The oily shadows thing you mentioned is hard to ignore, as well as the reference to the books with the reaper sound after the failure of indoctrination. The Anderson and illusive man angel and devil over your shoulder dynamic def makes me feel like this is a battle of will rather than a physical battle.
i had a theory that that was the case, except it applies to all of mass effect 3. i view it as shepard never made it back at the end of ME 2. examples of this are that most returning chars from ME2 are trying to fix what shepard believes are their biggest regret. morian fixing the genophage, tali taking her planet back, etc, and if you dont do 1 thing exactly, they die. its reacuring hope followed by demoralizing failure. it ties in with the ending. the illusion of choice, with a tiny window of success. its textbook torture which works and torture that doesnt. no choice, no hope, and someone with tell you the sky is green to make you stop. illusion of choice, hope and demoralization, and eventually, you will get accurate information.
saren WAS someone who would die before helping the reapers, but he was given a false choice, which it seems he thinks was his idea, his realization, but it wasnt.
the other point is that the cannon ending of 3, now that andromeda has come out is Liaras message, she was not there for the ending of me2
Everyone: We want Mass Effect Theory part 2 and science within games
MatPat: MoRe inDIE HorrOR THEoriEs bAbiE!!!
I may actually have an apartment on the citadel by the time part two is out
it's been FIVE MONTHS where's part 2?
7 months now
69 months now
I'm REEEEEAAAAALLY hoping he talks about the inconsistencies between Starkid's explanation of the Reapers and the original canon explanation of the Reapers as told by Sovereign. I don't get why people think that the Reapers being the "we destroy all life to save it" cliche is so much cooler than the infinitely scarier "we have no beginning" explanation. Is it so hard to believe there is a realm of existence so far beyond our own that living constructs beyond our understanding could have existed outside of the confines of the universe? I mean... it also makes sense considering that if you took every harvest (which are 50,000 years apart) and lined it up since the beginning of the universe (before any life existed on planets that had not yet existed because stars hadn't been formed yet), you would have around 700 Reapers instead of the THOUSANDS that supposedly "darken the sky of every world". Seriously. 700 Reapers.
I don't even really care that the series had a 3-colored ending. What pisses me off is that Bioware and EA retcon-nuked possibly the greatest villains to ever exist--into a cliched sci. fi. motive as old as time--or... Isaac Asimov. Call me entitled, whiny, whatever you want: Of everything bad that's happened to this beautiful space opera adventure with enough lore to stand as a contender in the ranks of Star Wars and Star Trek, their treatment of the TERRIFYING Reaper lore is by and large the most offensive.
tl;dr please?
tl;dr: Only intellectuals get to know what i said because they take the time to do a basic thing like reading.
Y'know, I wouldn't mind 2-parters so much if the second part actually ever came out within or near the timeframe mentioned
1-3 weeks? No big, I can live with that
3+ months with no sign or mention of part 2 for those of us that don't/can't watch the constant influx of streams? Seriously?
And yet it still hasn’t come out
In a couple months it'll be an entire year since he promised a part 2
@@kostonforever2005 lol
Nov 5th, 2021. Just now getting into Mass Effect after denying it for years- obsessed, currently playing 2, love Game Theory and wondered what MatPat thought of it- well, not enough to finish it. SIGH
🌟 *And mass effect 2 and 3 only existed in Shepherds head. Because in destroy ending Shepard wakes up from the rubble from the beginning of mass effect 2 when he "died"(coma).*
Simply put, he beat the indoctrination journey in mass effect 2, and mass effect 3 and woke up in the rubble of the beginning of mass effect 2, Shepard still wearing his armour from the beginning of mass effect 2, and the dog tag. They don't show his face behind the the rubble because he's still wearing his helmet from space. A coma could last about an hour, but the events of ME 2and3 in his head lasted about a month or year depending on the time line; and at that time the alliance would have arrived to rescue because the escaping Normandy crew landed on the same planet in the life boats, alerted them.
*Just like Matriarch Benezia, and Saren Arcturus, they resisted the indoctrination, but they was weak and died, however Shepard beat the indoctrination.*
Shepards fight isn't over.
dude i was all about this till i remembered mass effect Andromeda is after mass effect 2 canonically so 2 has to happen. Maybe he didn't survive the suicide mission. idk i love your idea sorry.
@@insley322
Remember the beginning of 2 was when the Ryders set out on their journey from the moon. And by the time Shepard was "resurrected and woke up", it was how many years later.
So my theory is plausible, maybe...
still waiting on part 2 of this theory
he was indoctrinated
Still should have had an ending with substance. Indoctrination or not, the "endings" were just lazy for end of a trilogy of that scale.
Think if Return of the King ended with just casual stroll up the mountain and Frodo just dropped the Ring in the lava and went home.
Well, yeah but it's known that the script for the original intentions around the ending were scrapped pretty late in development but I'm still curious as to how that would play out?
I am (apparently) one of few who actually liked the ending of ME3 (though I might have started playing after the extended cut version).
The endings left enough ambiguity for the player to determine what happens in detail from what we expect of the characters after getting to know everyone in our own ways.
That makes our own stories that aren't wrong which is what I like about the Dark Souls lore, all the games are so deep yet vague enough for us to make up our own stories, explanations and theories that aren't wrong since there isn't proof of anything else.
please dont defend 3 endings that where practically exactly the same, and in no way took into account any of the "important" choices you made during the 3 games(something that they promised). the only choice you have at the end of the game is "would you like a red, blue, or green explosion?"
More like Frodo gets to Mt Doom, talks to Sauron, and decides to make everyone in the world into orcs.
TheHolycupcake he did say the extended cut, which was much better
The extended cut didn't really avoid the iceberg as it so much as added deck chairs to watch the catastrophe from a different angle. The problem with the ending wasn't that we didn't get to say final goodbyes and what not. The problem was that it defied the entire point of Mass Effect (stopping the Reapers from killing and enslaving us all) and rendered all the choices pointless by going along with their insane plan. Shephard is fully capable of using his words to resolve a centuries long conflict (Tunchanka and Rannoch) but can't even so much as say why the Star Child's plan makes no sense on the organics/geths point of view?
It’s was May 13, 2021. The remastered version of the Mass Effect Trilogy was only hours away, and yet - we still had no part two of the Mass Effect Theory. Folks started giving up hope and thinking the worst. But I held out hope. I knew one day Mat Pat would finish his theory...... one day...
As of 2023, Matt still has not released the part two 😔